IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-09-20 (GMT)

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[10:04:06]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: best solution is?
[10:07:04]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: add some extra chmod to force 711 and see what/where happens then - is it on install only or maybe on server verify etc
[10:07:32]<omega8cc>anyway, I'm away walking the dog! :)
[10:07:37]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: seems to be only on install, if i manually change it, it seems to be fine afterward
[10:08:58]<omega8cc>so, it is probably in Drush and not Provision? anyway, weird
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[10:23:38]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there a way to change the admin email address after installation on Barracuda?
[10:23:50]<realityloop>for firewall emails etc
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[10:45:04]<omega8cc>realityloop: yes
[10:45:33]<realityloop>omega8cc: is it documented on your website?
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[10:47:30]<omega8cc>no, not yet, see in /etc/csf/csf.conf, /etc/apticron/apticron.conf, /var/xdrago/checksql.cgi and /var/xdrago/usage.sh
[10:47:59]<omega8cc>but
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[10:48:56]<omega8cc>it is always changed on upgrade, so rather easy to update
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[13:46:47]<milk>hmm, i can't turn off d7 cache or css aggregation on sites that i add. could the aegir settings by causing this?
[13:52:07]<bgm>afaik recent versions of Aegir don't turn on cache automatically (it used to do that before 1.0, I think)
[13:52:52]<bgm>you can check the settings.php, and the ~/config/includes/global.inc
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[13:55:20]<milk>ah, it has "$conf['cache'] = 1; // enable hardcoded caching". i'm using a Barracuda stable install.
[13:56:06]<milk>how could i override that on a per-site basis?
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[13:56:44]<bgm>milk: create a local.settings.php with <?php $conf['cache'] = 0; ?>
[13:57:10]<halcyonCorsair>milk: hook_something_drupal_config()?
[13:57:32]<halcyonCorsair>milk: http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Provision/provision.api.php/function/dru...
[13:57:42]<halcyonCorsair>or what bgm said
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[14:04:07]<milk>bgm; that sorted it, thank you.
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[20:01:35]<darthsteven>scrum in 1 minute!
[20:02:03]<darthsteven>mig5, mvc, omega8cc, sfyn, skwashd; scrum in 1 min
[20:03:25]<darthsteven>scrum time!
[20:03:32]<omega8cc>hello!
[20:03:33]<darthsteven>scrum?
[20:03:33]<hefring>scrum is Every Tuesday at 10h00 UTC: 03h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 06h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 11h00 London, UK (CET), 20h00 Melbourne, Australia (EST)
[20:03:42]<darthsteven>indeed it is hefring
[20:03:46]<darthsteven>botsnack
[20:03:46]<hefring>skynet thanks YOU!
[20:03:52]<darthsteven>who wants to go first?
[20:04:18]<mig5>just made it..
[20:04:25]<darthsteven>mig5: Hello!
[20:04:26]<mig5>you go firsst, you have been on fire in the queue!
[20:05:21]<darthsteven>I fixed some issues that were in the queue, and worked on the site form a little
[20:05:38]<darthsteven>Hopefully we can now handle database passwords that include special characters
[20:05:52]<darthsteven>though we may be chasing that one around a few more dark corners yet
[20:06:10]<darthsteven>I'd like some feedback about the site form changes (which are in a dev branch)
[20:06:13]<darthsteven>the issue is...
[20:06:40]<darthsteven>http://drupal.org/node/1282280
[20:06:40]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1282280 => Clean up the hosting form javascript => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, needs review, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[20:06:50]<darthsteven>I would really appreciate some reviews of that
[20:07:01]<mig5>i never understood any of that as i don't grok javascript - i'm glad you're tackling it
[20:07:12]<darthsteven>It's basically just adding an AJAX spinner, so you know that something is happening...
[20:07:16]<mig5>so i'm not sure how helpful i can be there but hopefully others..
[20:07:20]<mig5>ah right
[20:07:42]<darthsteven>even just a test and 'I like the look of that' or 'Can we do this' would be helpful
[20:08:01]<darthsteven>Also
[20:08:12]<darthsteven>I installed Drupal 8 using Aegir last night, and it worked!
[20:08:22]<darthsteven>which isn't a major surprise, but it is fun
[20:08:38]<darthsteven>that's it from me
[20:08:45]<darthsteven>who wants to go next?
[20:09:23]<mig5>nothing from me, i see you want to add some drupal8 tests into jenkins, i can do that
[20:09:34]<mig5>still way too busy right now to look at moving tests into provision
[20:09:45]<mig5>hopefully more time early october when i go full-time consultant
[20:10:20]<darthsteven>mig5: do you have time for a quick chat after the scrum about Aegir stuff?
[20:10:48]<mig5>should do, it's either you or dinner, whatever happens first
[20:10:50]<mig5>:)
[20:11:00]<darthsteven>mig5: been thinking about the tests stuff, have some ideas and thoughts about it...
[20:11:06]<darthsteven>mig5: anything else to add?
[20:11:27]<mig5>nope, other than to say thanks to you specifically for working the issue queue like a nutter this week
[20:11:31]<darthsteven>mig5: thanks for coming to the scrum even if you don't have much to report!
[20:11:36]<mig5>keep it up but don't burn out :)
[20:11:53]<darthsteven>mig5: these are my normal levels of involvement in projects... :)
[20:12:02]<darthsteven>anyone else have anything for the scrum?
[20:12:08]<omega8cc>I don't have anything new related to the Aegir core this week to report, however I worked on some BOA new features and there is a chance I will submit some new patches for Nginx config (and finally) the menu/UI.
[20:12:32]<omega8cc>darthsteven: and also thanks for your work in the queue!
[20:12:47]<darthsteven>omega8cc: awesome!
[20:13:05]<mig5>omega8cc: i expect to hear you move into Linode Tokyo soon ;)
[20:13:06]<darthsteven>omega8cc: I think we should make tiding up the UI a priority for 2.x
[20:13:14]<mig5>sorry offtopic
[20:13:47]<mig5>apparently there was a drupal montreal on
[20:13:47]<darthsteven>anyone else?
[20:13:51]<mig5>i read some french tweets about it
[20:13:58]<mig5>something about an 'albert method', a guy from koumbit did a talk
[20:14:07]<mig5>i am keen to find out more, there are slides somewhere, search on twitter under #aegir
[20:14:49]<mig5>i think it's deployment-related, i'll see if i can find out more and get some english-language focus on it as it looked interesting
[20:15:22]<darthsteven>cool
[20:15:27]<omega8cc>http://t.co/gv7OisUe
[20:15:41]<omega8cc>or http://twitter.com/#!/omega8cc/status/114783126844223488
[20:16:01]<mig5>oh nice already in english
[20:16:05]<omega8cc>yep
[20:16:19]<mig5>again, soon, i will have a new screencast up
[20:16:24]<mig5>about my 'zero touch' deployment for aegir
[20:16:28]<mig5>using jenkins
[20:16:46]<mig5>that 'reacts' to git push in de/v/stage/live environments
[20:16:51]<darthsteven>mig5: cool, have you seen that someone is doing screencasts of Aegir stuff?
[20:16:52]<mig5>that will come 'soon' ;)
[20:16:56]<darthsteven>mig5: that would be awesome
[20:16:59]<mig5>darthsteven: yes i did, i watched one
[20:17:01]<omega8cc>mig5: cool! finally! :)
[20:17:18]<darthsteven>mig5: I've not watched them...so I've no idea if they're any good
[20:17:38]<darthsteven>To finish the scrum, I'd like to say...
[20:18:03]<darthsteven>that we seem to have had a bump in contributors, which is really cool!
[20:18:17]<mig5>yes! rock on, patchers!
[20:18:21]<darthsteven>There are also a few people who've started using Aegir, and are now blogging about the project
[20:18:34]<mig5>thanks GuyPaddock and halcyonCorsair
[20:18:35]<darthsteven>The 'Wedful' thing springs to mind
[20:19:08]<mig5>yes and hadsie, i think that was the first commercial 'payment' aegir system that implemented our api
[20:19:17]<omega8cc>right
[20:19:25]<darthsteven>So, with a bit of effort we make Aegir 2.x happen fast, and be super awesome in every way!
[20:19:28]<darthsteven>anyway
[20:19:34]<darthsteven>that's it for this scrum!
[20:19:37]<mig5>the pantheon project is getting a lot of publicity right now, i am keen to see people publish 'how to make your own pantheon' with aegir :)
[20:19:41]<mig5>just to balance things out :)
[20:19:46]<mig5>thanks scrummers
[20:19:47]<darthsteven>Thanks for attending
[20:19:56]<omega8cc>thanks
[20:19:58]<darthsteven>who wants to do the log thing?
[20:20:01]<mig5>i can
[20:20:06]<darthsteven>thanks!
[20:20:20]<darthsteven>mig5: pm?
[20:21:03]<mig5>sure
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[22:06:46]<MattFielding>omega8cc: Quick question - if a module requires an addition be made to the .htaccess file, where should these be configured on Barracuda?
[22:09:15]<omega8cc>MattFielding: there is no htaccess in Nginx, any custom locations/rewrites should go to your custom Nginx config file, see: http://drupalcode.org/project/octopus.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/HINTS.txt#l16
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[22:11:47]<MattFielding>omega8cc: so in nginx_vhost_include.conf?
[22:11:59]<omega8cc>yes
[22:12:25]<omega8cc>also, always use "service nginx reload"
[22:12:29]<omega8cc>never restart
[22:12:50]<omega8cc>the reload will check if there are any issues with config
[22:13:05]<omega8cc>and will not reload it if there are any
[22:13:19]<omega8cc>plus it will display the line # where the problem is
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[22:13:46]<omega8cc>so you ca debug any issues with your custom stuff without taking all your sites down
[22:13:58]<omega8cc>you can* err
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[22:17:41]<MattFielding>omega8cc: that's pretty handy
[22:18:02]<omega8cc>yes
[22:18:57]<MattFielding>omega8cc: you can use if statements in nginx conf files right?
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[22:20:51]<omega8cc>MattFielding: yes, but locations (or maps) are better and faster than if {}
[22:21:29]<omega8cc>MattFielding: of course if {} is sometimes the only option to do something like checking for variable or header or cookie etc
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[22:23:45]<MattFielding>omega8cc: I was wanting to check if a module was enabled
[22:24:56]<omega8cc>MattFielding: drupal module?? you can't
[22:25:32]<omega8cc>it is not a PHP or Drupal app layer
[22:25:57]<omega8cc>you can check if module exists in the override.global.inc, using PHP
[22:26:36]<omega8cc>but you can't check if it is enabled because it is too early in the bootstrap
[22:27:09]<omega8cc>you could check for variables, of course
[22:27:25]<omega8cc>so there are some workarounds possible
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[22:28:35]<MattFielding>hmm. has anyone got responsive images module working with nginx yet? Someone must have done it by now?
[22:28:59]<omega8cc>no idea, I didn't try it yet
[22:29:48]<MattFielding>it should be easy. It's pretty simple how it works
[22:30:24]<omega8cc>http://drupal.org/node/1284796
[22:30:25]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1284796 => Anyone able to get Nignx server to work? => Responsive Images, Code, normal, active, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[22:31:06]<omega8cc>but yeah, it is rather easy to do in Nginx
[22:31:11]<omega8cc>I will take a look
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[22:37:21]<omega8cc>MattFielding: something like https://gist.github.com/1228984
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[22:41:53]<MattFielding>omega8cc: thanks i'll give that a try
[22:43:58]<omega8cc>MattFielding: cool, let me know how it works - it is still possible it needs to be sent to drupal location directly to avoid using static files/images location
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[23:10:59]<omega8cc>MattFielding: this one is probably better: https://gist.github.com/1229033
[23:15:03]<MattFielding>omega8cc: it almost works. it needs another condition i think. the rewrite should only happen if the value of the cookie is 'large'
[23:15:52]<MattFielding>rewriting to remove the '-r' should always happen
[23:16:24]<omega8cc>ah
[23:19:08]<omega8cc>so maybe this: https://gist.github.com/1229033
[23:20:28]<omega8cc>MattFielding: ^^
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[23:38:08]<hefring>Git => Issue #1283926 by bgm: Fixed Small improvement on the trigger/views filtering in... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/38801f86d10721651...
[23:46:30]<MattFielding>omega8cc: it's rewriting correctly for large screens but i'm getting a broken link on mobile. Which is hard to debug with mobile safari
[23:46:31]<omega8cc>what is URI of the broken image?
[23:46:34]<omega8cc>MattFielding: post your results in the queue: http://drupal.org/node/1284796
[23:46:35]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1284796 => Anyone able to get Nignx server to work? => Responsive Images, Code, normal, active, 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[01:22:03]<MattFielding>omega8cc: it works if I don't use the location statement
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[01:28:59]<omega8cc>MattFielding: hmm.. so just this? https://gist.github.com/1229410
[01:30:22]<MattFielding>yes. I tried the location statements a few other ways and none would work
[01:31:44]<omega8cc>MattFielding: have you tried something like this? https://gist.github.com/1229414
[01:34:26]<MattFielding>yeah, tried that one.
[01:34:29]<MattFielding>Is there anything else that needs to go outside the location statement?
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[01:42:13]<omega8cc>MattFielding: keeping it inside location prevents possible conflicts and sending request to the wrong place, but it is weird if even that simplified location didn't work
[01:43:26]<omega8cc>without location *every* request is tested against cookie test and rewrite, which is less than optimal
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[01:51:53]<dogi>hi all
[01:53:21]<dogi>is there a way to find why tasks from the queue are not done ...
[01:54:07]<dogi>or is there a manual way in a aegir system (based on boa) to start tasks
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[02:09:07]<letharion>The installation instructions says that drush is available in the package manager on debian and ubuntu. Gentoo can be added to that list as well. http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-admin/drush?arches=all
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[02:11:20]<omega8cc>dogi: check if you have /var/xdrago/log/optimize_mysql_ao.pid file and try to remove it
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[02:13:53]<omega8cc>dogi: this pid file is created when db backups or db repair is run to avoid issues, and then it should be removed automatically, but if you rebooted the server while it was running backups or repair etc, then the file can lock your queue until you will remove it
[02:15:57]<dogi>omega8cc, ty
[02:20:47]<dogi>that was the problem
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[02:43:11]<nlisgo>omega8cc: I've been helping MattFielding with the nginx conf and we just wondered if the script you sent us should live with in server {} I can't see anything wring with the syntax of the location declaration as you have sent it to us but it doesn't work although it parses ok
[02:46:10]<omega8cc>nlisgo: what script do you mean? I only posted on gist some nginx config snippets to try it out
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[02:53:22]<omega8cc>nlisgo: if you mean: https://gist.github.com/1229414 then it should be in the extra included config file to avoid issues on upgrades and/or site verify
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[02:54:10]<nlisgo>omega8cc sorry I was referring to the snippet. I just meant does that snippet need to be rwrapped in server { ... } for it to work
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[02:54:36]<omega8cc>you could comment out the line with "access_log off;" to see logged requests in the nginx access log
[02:54:38]<omega8cc>yes
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[02:55:03]<omega8cc>it is automatically included where it should be
[02:55:40]<omega8cc>as explained in the hints: http://drupalcode.org/project/octopus.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/HINTS.txt#l16
[02:57:25]<omega8cc>I have no idea how this module works, so maybe wrapping rewrites inside location breaks something for the module
[02:57:51]<nlisgo>it doesn't even work if I put location / { ... }
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[02:59:19]<nlisgo>and the includes in the nginx.conf are outside of the server { ... } so that's what prompted me to ask
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[03:01:01]<omega8cc>nlisgo: this include is inside server {} as it is included in the included nginx_advanced_include.conf file
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[03:01:53]<omega8cc>nlisgo: where did you put that snippet, btw?
[03:03:07]<nlisgo>omega8cc: I'm emailing you now
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[03:06:07]<nlisgo>he's been putting it in nginx_vhost_include.conf rather than nginx_advanced_include.conf doh!!!
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[03:29:38]<omega8cc>nlisgo: Greg just responded, this extra config file should be nginx_vhost_include.conf and it is included *inside* nginx_advanced_include.conf
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[03:30:51]<omega8cc>it is explained in http://drupalcode.org/project/octopus.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/HINTS.txt#l22
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[07:45:31]<MrRiley>Question about platforms..If I create a custom platform with extra contrib modules, does a platform I migrate to have to have all the same modules on it?
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[07:54:26]<joestewart>MrRiley: The modules used on the site to be migrated are compared to the new platform's modules to make sure they are there.
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[08:01:12]<MrRiley>If I were to install a module after I installed the site and then wanted to migrate to update the core, would the new platform need to have this module?
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[08:05:07]<joestewart>MrRiley: where did you install it?
[08:05:10]<macrocosm>MrRiley ... yes it needs those modules or newer ones
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[08:05:54]<macrocosm>*newer versions that is
[08:06:05]<MrRiley>I installed a site using a vanilla install of drupal 7.8 (standard profile)
[08:07:08]<MrRiley>then added some modules afterwards, so I was wondering whenever 7.9 comes out, if I would need to add those modules to the new playform
[08:07:21]<MrRiley>*platform
[08:07:22]<macrocosm>when you create the new platform just copy all your old modules over and add any updated versions needed
[08:07:46]<macrocosm>the migrate can to the upgrades for modules and the drupal core
[08:08:15]<macrocosm>but you will at least need the current versions of the additional modules you've installed ... yes or you will get errors and it wont allow the migrate I think
[08:08:47]<macrocosm>unless the added modules are in your sites/somesite.com/modules folder then those go with the site on migrate
[08:10:02]<MrRiley>yes, that is where the added modules are. In sites/somesite.com/modules
[08:10:38]<macrocosm>so... anything in sites/all/modules will need to be added to your new platform.. anything in sites/somesite.com modules is carried over automatically but unavailable to other sites in the same platform
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[08:11:02]<MrRiley>perfect! thats great news
[08:11:12]<MrRiley>thanks for the help
[08:11:14]<macrocosm>glad I could help ;)
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