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| [10:29:02] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: coz I hate ruby beyond belief |
| [10:29:14] | <mig5> | with the possible exception of puppet. |
| [10:29:30] | <mig5> | i don't consider fabric better than capistrano, i just consider python better than ruby :) |
| [10:30:38] | <halcyonCorsair> | i would have thought it would be nicer to not add yet another language / framework to the mix? |
| [10:30:58] | <mig5> | if ruby was a incer language, sure |
| [10:30:59] | <mig5> | nicer* |
| [10:31:24] | <mig5> | if capistrano floats your boat, then use it, definitely |
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| [10:38:24] | <mig5> | same as if bcfg2 (python) was decent, I'd use it and fabric rather than puppet + fabric |
| [10:38:27] | <mig5> | but it isn't |
| [10:38:34] | <mig5> | personal preference for the 'right' tool |
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| [11:25:19] | <omega8cc> | mig5: I like python because it is also a snake, like boa :P |
| [11:26:06] | <omega8cc> | and what is ruby? rails? wtf? ;) |
| [11:27:11] | <mig5> | it's 'hip' |
| [11:28:58] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
| [11:33:57] | <Egyptian[Home]> | hi can someone review the process to set up uc_hosting i have listed here? http://fpaste.org/BXsd/ thanks |
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| [11:49:18] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: do you have info/examples of what you're doing posted somewhere? |
| [11:50:36] | <mig5> | for zero-touch deployment of sites using aegir you could look at https://github.com/mig5/aegir_cid |
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| [11:50:50] | <mig5> | the fabfile.py being the fabric magic |
| [11:51:04] | <mig5> | no real docs on it yet |
| [11:51:19] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: what bits do you use puppet for? base system config? |
| [11:51:48] | <mig5> | yes, well, everything other than managing the sites |
| [11:51:57] | <mig5> | packages, config, users, firewalls, everything |
| [11:52:10] | <mig5> | i have no 'open source' puppet manifests at this stage, but there's nothing special about them |
| [11:52:34] | <mig5> | example of my tool that builds servers + runs things like puppet manifests against them https://github.com/mig5/madelon |
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| [11:55:18] | <halcyonCorsair> | interesting |
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| [11:57:27] | <mig5> | so i use a drupal webform that allows a user to submit the form with a server name and a set of roles (puppet 'roles'). the email is sent to jenkins, which in turn runs that madelon program and builds the server and triggers all the 'hooks' which include running puppet, automating the nagios/munin monitoring setup, etc |
| [11:58:01] | <mig5> | and similar jenkins jobs that then schedule deployment of sites in response to 'changes' in the git repo of the site's install profile |
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| [11:58:09] | <mig5> | i hope to do a big-arse demo on it soon |
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| [14:16:13] | <Harley> | omega8cc: Hello. Hoping you have time to provide some guidance on how best to resolve this issue. http://drupal.org/node/1279860 if I understand your comments there the user should be set to "dev.ftp" but uncertain what the group name is. Alos looking to confirm if this is for all the BOA install folders, static, platforms, etc? |
| [14:16:14] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1279860 => Unable to run taks needed access to DB - clone, backup, etc => Octopus, Documentation, normal, active, 5 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [16:42:25] | <darthsteven> | I broke it :( |
| [16:43:34] | <mig5> | actually i think drupal.org broke it |
| [16:44:00] | <darthsteven> | yeah |
| [16:44:19] | <darthsteven> | just trying to tidy up Jenkins so we can remove some of the old scripts |
| [16:44:19] | <mig5> | or osuosl.org or whatever, rather, which appears to be having trouble in general. |
| [16:44:33] | <darthsteven> | no real need to have these builds really... |
| [16:44:55] | <darthsteven> | I'll wait for d.o to fix itself |
| [16:46:21] | <darthsteven> | the release yesterday went smoothly though |
| [16:46:27] | <mig5> | one more to go |
| [16:46:29] | <mig5> | yeah nice work |
| [16:48:15] | <darthsteven> | Thanks aegir-jenkins |
| [16:48:24] | <darthsteven> | I'll fix you later! |
| [16:48:41] | <darthsteven> | mig5: do you have any thoughts about http://drupal.org/node/1269212 at all? |
| [16:48:42] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1269212 => Spin Eldir back out to its own project => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [16:49:29] | <mig5> | if you were to do it, you may as well spin Hosting back into being its own module too |
| [16:49:40] | <mig5> | i can't remember why we bundled it all into one repo, but i know it was when we switched to git |
| [16:49:54] | <mig5> | maybe you are right and it was prior to drush make |
| [16:50:10] | <darthsteven> | I think it might have been |
| [16:50:49] | <darthsteven> | Hostmaster and hosting seem like they are the same project to me, but eldir does seem different |
| [16:51:03] | <mig5> | it's no more different than a module is different to an install profile :0 |
| [16:51:06] | <mig5> | er, :) |
| [16:51:15] | <mig5> | so to me they are all different, but it's all semantics i suppose |
| [16:51:46] | <mig5> | arugably, someone might want to use the eldir theme separately from aegir entirely, moreso than say, Hosting |
| [16:51:49] | <mig5> | so in that sense you're right |
| [16:53:18] | <darthsteven> | Yeah, it just seems like you'd never use hosting or hostmaster by themselves, but eldir you might |
| [16:54:21] | <darthsteven> | But maybe it doesn't matter |
| [16:54:57] | <darthsteven> | Maybe we should just make our D7 branches actually contain some D7 code |
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| [16:58:50] | <halcyonCorsair> | they don't? |
| [17:08:04] | <darthsteven> | halcyonCorsair: No, they are basically 6.x-2.x branches |
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| [17:12:55] | <Aciid> | mm my boss wants to create a install profile with some ~50-100modules enabled. he has now tested the "profile" by cloning. Is there a way to turn this site clone to a install profile? |
| [17:13:06] | <Aciid> | surely there is a way, but im asking is it vice? |
| [17:13:31] | <Aciid> | from my test's it now has references to old sites as its a clone of a clone of a clone |
| [17:13:33] | <Aciid> | and its not that good |
| [17:14:07] | <halcyonCorsair> | Aciid: much easier if its a d7 site :) |
| [17:14:28] | <Aciid> | it's a d7 site sure. |
| [17:14:53] | <halcyonCorsair> | http://drupal.org/node/1022020 |
| [17:14:54] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1022020 => How to Write a Drupal 7 Installation Profile => 7 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [17:15:38] | <halcyonCorsair> | Aciid: you can also add in features and other things, though it can start to get tricky then |
| [17:16:16] | <Aciid> | yea, the bad news is most of what my boss also wants in , are custom things there |
| [17:16:23] | <Aciid> | like roles and content types |
| [17:16:29] | <Aciid> | which have now carried with the clone |
| [17:16:43] | <Aciid> | but with install profile / platform on aegir, I should make them with a SQL creation query |
| [17:16:46] | <Aciid> | on the prfile |
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| [17:18:16] | <halcyonCorsair> | Aciid: re: roles, they're easier to add in to the install profile manually i think, content types go in manually i think |
| [17:18:47] | <darthsteven> | Aciid: Have a look at using features to capture the config and save it to code |
| [17:19:23] | <Aciid> | wow this might just be what I'm looking for |
| [17:19:25] | <halcyonCorsair> | i think there are still some features revert bugs, etc but other than that... |
| [17:19:34] | <Aciid> | thanks to both of you |
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| [17:31:39] | <halcyonCorsair> | is anyone else other than me using the aegir cluster functionality much? |
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| [17:35:36] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: did you get a chance to look at http://drupal.org/node/1283738 btw? |
| [17:35:37] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1283738 => Add new hook provision_drupal_create_directories in _provision_drupal_create_directories => Provision, Code, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
| [17:35:53] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: if it helps, i can probably show you how i'm implementing that hook |
| [17:38:32] | <darthsteven> | Anarcat has done work on this stuff, so I was leaving for him |
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| [17:56:42] | <halcyonCorsair> | ok |
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| [18:14:33] | <halcyonCorsair> | fuck...forgot to run hostmaster-migrate with -d -v and now i'm not sure if its doing stuff or stuck... |
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| [18:22:59] | <halcyonCorsair> | is ftp.drupal.org having issues at the moment? |
| [18:28:36] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: is there a way to prefetch all drush make's deps/whatever? |
| [18:28:46] | <halcyonCorsair> | or have hostmaster-migrate fail if it can't get everything? |
| [18:29:54] | <darthsteven> | halcyonCorsair: yes, ftp.drupal.org is a bit broken it seems |
| [18:30:13] | <halcyonCorsair> | looks like i picked the perfect time to attempt to upgrade aegir... |
| [18:30:15] | <darthsteven> | hostmaster-migrate should fail if it doesn't get everything |
| [18:31:04] | <halcyonCorsair> | ah sweet |
| [18:31:15] | <darthsteven> | this is the trouble with drush make |
| [18:31:26] | <darthsteven> | and the fact that d.o is getting increasingly flaky |
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| [18:32:09] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: also, can i get drush dl to easily go to my local copy of provision instead? |
| [18:33:58] | <darthsteven> | what do you mean? |
| [18:34:27] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: ah, we've patched provision, so we want to grab it from our repo instead |
| [18:34:52] | <darthsteven> | how are you doing the upgrade? |
| [18:35:44] | <darthsteven> | halcyonCorsair: http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/manual is probably what you want |
| [18:36:19] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: yeah, am doing, just wondering if theres an easy way to get drush dl to goto a different source and do *magic* |
| [18:36:39] | <darthsteven> | Not that I know of |
| [18:36:48] | <halcyonCorsair> | omega8cc's barracuda just git clones and seems to assume success |
| [18:40:35] | <halcyonCorsair> | darthsteven: but in answer to my other question, there is no way to pre-fetch everything for drush make? |
| [18:41:05] | <darthsteven> | umm... |
| [18:41:11] | <darthsteven> | not very cleanly |
| [18:41:15] | <darthsteven> | just run the drush make |
| [18:42:15] | <mig5> | http://reluctanthacker.rollett.org/node/114 |
| [18:45:30] | <darthsteven> | that too |
| [18:49:29] | <halcyonCorsair> | hmm, i'd prefer something i could fabric/capistrano onto a server... |
| [18:49:37] | <halcyonCorsair> | at any rate, gotta run and grab some dinner |
| [18:50:11] | <mig5> | fabric.run("apt-get install squid3") |
| [18:50:12] | <mig5> | :) |
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| [18:55:08] | <darthsteven> | hmmm... ftp.d.o just worked fine for me, but seemed very slow |
| [18:55:30] | <darthsteven> | Someone also posted that they couldn't complete the upgrade process: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/14-released#comment-1049 |
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| [19:14:23] | <mig5> | it's osuosl.org |
| [19:14:35] | <mig5> | which ftp.drupal.org is basically an alias to |
| [19:14:51] | <mig5> | i have a server that uses osuosl.org for an apt source, and it also is borked |
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| [20:06:45] | <Aciid> | jesus, I'm getting avg. 1.5sec DrupalDatabaseCache::getMultiple |
| [20:07:04] | <Aciid> | is there anything I can do to this |
| [20:07:08] | <Aciid> | this is embarrasingly slow |
| [20:07:37] | <Aciid> | this is a 4gb rackspace server |
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| [20:20:44] | <darthsteven> | Aciid: that isn't really an Aegir related question, so you may not get an answer, #drupal-support may be a better place to ask |
| [20:21:29] | <Aciid> | I know, sorry :\ I was just thinking that would anyone know the answer here. |
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| [20:25:09] | <Harley> | any boa users in the room? |
| [20:27:42] | <Harley> | in my platform folder i have all the installed BOA platforms.. all are set to dev:users for their groups but one. is set to root:root. |
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| [21:43:50] | <Harley> | tying to clone a site and getting an error on the 'mysqldum'. reporting that permission is denied. I am able to verify the site in full with no errors. |
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| [23:16:20] | <derek> | Hi, I'm trying to install aegir 1.3 using the apt-get install aegir but it keeps failing with anything that requires connecting to ftp.drupal.org. Any ideas? |
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| [23:17:29] | <j0nathan> | hi, I've got many timeout actually with ftp.drupal.org |
| [23:17:32] | <j0nathan> | derek, ^ |
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| [23:17:44] | <j0nathan> | it seems I am not the only one |
| [23:18:25] | <derek> | oh, so could be a prob with ftp.drupal.org? |
| [23:19:03] | <j0nathan> | i think so |
| [23:19:21] | <j0nathan> | i was not sure if this was with our network or the server |
| [23:19:46] | <j0nathan> | this is very very slow from our servers and from my own computer |
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| [23:23:10] | <derek> | Ahh, I'm asking in drupal-support channel to see if anyones aware |
| [23:28:30] | <cdracars> | Anyone know why aegir would just decide to not rsync anymore? |
| [23:32:57] | <j0nathan> | derek, http://julianhigman.com/blog/2011/09/02/using-drush-make-while-ftp-drupa... |
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| [23:51:00] | <j0nathan> | I asked in #drupal-infrastructure, they are aware of the issue with ftp.drupal.org and are working on this. |
| [23:51:02] | <j0nathan> | derek, ^ |
| [23:51:20] | <derek> | great, thanks j0nathan |
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| [00:12:44] | <cdracars> | Anyone know why aegir would just decide to not rsync anymore? |
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| [01:53:23] | <cdracars> | I'm having rsync problems anyone else fix something similar? |
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| [02:07:41] | <theMusician> | Is this the current upgrade script url? 'http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob_plain/refs/tags/6.x-1.4... Thank you. |
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| [02:14:55] | <darthsteven> | http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/script |
| [02:15:03] | <darthsteven> | so yes |
| [02:22:02] | <cdracars> | any reasons that remote platforms should fail to verify after initial verification? |
| [02:25:12] | <theMusician> | thank you |
| [02:29:41] | <theMusician> | following the manual upgrade process on my test server I end up with a hostmaster-6.x-1.1 and a hostmaster-6.x-1.4 directory. How do I know the ugprade worked? |
| [02:30:55] | <theMusician> | If I mv the hostmaster-6.x-1.1 dir to /tmp Aegir no longer loads even though hostmaster-6.x-1.4 exists. |
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| [02:44:13] | <theMusician> | Tried it again and this time upon restarting apache, I am prompted with the Drupal install screen with a Hostmaster install profile. Seems a bit odd. |
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| [02:46:15] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: does sound like something has gone awry |
| [02:47:23] | <theMusician> | darthsteven: Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to revert to a prior snapshot and give it a go again. I am going from 1.1 to 1.4, should I instead try to 1.1 to 1.2, .3 , .4? |
| [02:47:47] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: no, making the 'big' jump should be fine |
| [02:48:39] | <theMusician> | great to hear, thanks |
| [02:48:41] | <darthsteven> | did you get any errors on the upgrade? |
| [02:49:16] | <darthsteven> | you may also want to try the manual instructions: http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading/manual |
| [02:51:31] | <theMusician> | darthsteven: No errors, a warning that apache couldn't restart, a known issue on this vm for me. I was following the manual upgrade as the script was wonky on RedHat6 for me. |
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| [02:51:58] | <theMusician> | I'll just give it another whirl, thanks. |
| [02:52:08] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: ah..redhat...have fun! |
| [02:52:27] | <theMusician> | yes |
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| [02:59:31] | <theMusician> | darthsteven: Just for clarification. On the upgrade, should I end up with only one hostmaster directory? |
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| [03:27:04] | <theMusician> | I followed the upgrade instructions. I ran it with debug, no errors, several warnings about deprecated php functions. Apache restarted by itself this time. I refresh aegir.example.com and am presented http://aegir.example.com/install.php |
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| [03:35:33] | <theMusician> | ls |
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| [03:48:50] | <theMusician> | Cool. I figured it out. For some reasib the script did not delete the previous platform_hostmaster.conf file. It installed a platform_hostmaster6x14.conf file. I simple had to move the old one and rename the new one to be platform_hostmaster.conf. I restarted apache again and the upgrade worked. Thanks for the encouragement. |
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| [03:59:50] | <cdracars> | I'm having rsync problems anyone else fix something similar? |
| [04:15:42] | <mvc> | cdracars: hi! i'm afraid that without more information from you it's unlikely that anyone here will be able to help you. you need to at minimum describe what you're trying to do, the symptoms of your problem, and give us basic info like your OS, aegir version, etc |
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| [05:00:11] | <cdracars> | mvc: thank you I was unaware of how to get assistance |
| [05:01:58] | <cdracars> | I have setup a remote apache server on ubuntu 10.04 the site and platform both worked up until yesterday when I attempted to update to add ssl support to the site. Now when attempting to verify the platform it stops with a error unable to rsync to remote host. |
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| [06:21:41] | <theMusician> | Patched my RHEL6 Aegir install by following the manual upgrade instructions. The only issue I ran into is that hostmaster-migrate does not delete the old platform_hostmaster.conf file. Apache then fails on a .conf file check. apachectl -t. Manually deleting the file fixes it of course. |
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| [06:27:21] | <theMusician> | Is it advised to update the Admin Menu, jQuery UI, and Modal Frame API to the recommended versions? |
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| [06:47:03] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: no |
| [06:47:19] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: the versions are fixed at the last know working ones for Aegir |
| [06:51:01] | <theMusician> | darthsteven: Great to know. Thank you. |
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| [07:16:45] | <darthsteven> | huh, that one should not have failed |
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| [07:21:30] | <darthsteven> | we'll try that one more time... |
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| [07:24:45] | <darthsteven> | Win! |
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