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| [11:00:10] | <Mac_Weber> | got it |
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| [12:56:49] | <rovo> | hello |
| [12:56:49] | <hefring> | rovo: 4 hours 38 min ago <halcyonCorsair> tell rovo: i'm using vanilla |
| [12:58:35] | <rovo> | I've finally thoroughly read Migs article,http://mig5.net/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-version-control-dru... |
| [12:59:14] | <rovo> | I can clearly see the prescribed process for maintaining a deployment through aegir |
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| [13:01:31] | <rovo> | I think I will be fine working this way, but I am puzzled why if Aegir manage something as complex as that, why not be able to just launch a site instance, clone it to a dev instance, work on the dev(updates); then once changes have been approved, just clone the dev back over the live instance. I find it hard to understand what prevents a process like that in aegir |
| [13:08:07] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: time and development -- someone's gotta do the work to make it happen :) |
| [13:08:12] | <halcyonCorsair> | *make the magic happen |
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| [13:09:10] | <rovo> | halcyonCorsair: oh ok... that's what I'm wondering, so that is something above and beyond what Aegir is capable of right now; not just that I don't know how to do it. |
| [13:09:33] | <halcyonCorsair> | i believe so |
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| [13:11:35] | <rovo> | ok, so that. according to that article. I need to setup a platform, and launch my site on it. Then I need to create another platform, and clone my live site to it, to create a dev environment |
| [13:12:01] | <rovo> | I'm wondering what is that best way to create a duplicate of my current live platform? |
| [13:12:27] | <rovo> | since I am figuring that can't be done through the admin of aegir. |
| [13:12:52] | <rovo> | One way seems to be with git...to check in your current prod platform, then check it out to your dev platform |
| [13:13:29] | <rovo> | but I'm wondering if it can be as simple, as just copying the folder of the platform to a new mkdir in the filesystem |
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| [13:16:22] | <rovo> | Another way, is of course to use a make file, or just download the core and all the modules you need, again |
| [13:16:38] | <halcyonCorsair> | yeah |
| [13:16:54] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: tbh we do most of our dev outside of aegir, but thats just us |
| [13:17:03] | <halcyonCorsair> | i'm not sure how others do things |
| [13:17:17] | <halcyonCorsair> | then when ready we tag and export a platform from git |
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| [13:17:40] | <rovo> | well, that makes sense. I can see doing that in the initial stages, but at some point, parties involved like to see it hosted, especially anyone remote based |
| [13:17:46] | <rovo> | just from my experience |
| [13:17:47] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: btw, if you're building a fairly static site there's nothing stopping you from doing as you suggest above |
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| [13:18:11] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: which of what I said, seems logical :) |
| [13:18:22] | <rovo> | I say a lot... |
| [13:18:25] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: what is your workflow out of interest? heavy use of make files? everything in git/features/etc? |
| [13:18:39] | <ergonlogic> | more or less |
| [13:18:51] | <ergonlogic> | I don;t really build many drupal sites these days |
| [13:18:54] | <ergonlogic> | ironically |
| [13:19:01] | <halcyonCorsair> | ah, what do you do? |
| [13:19:03] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: where do you find yourself working in? |
| [13:19:34] | <halcyonCorsair> | don't tell me node.js? |
| [13:19:50] | <ergonlogic> | well, right now, I'm building some simple puppet manifests to create a network of Aegir/webcluster for vagrant |
| [13:19:59] | <ergonlogic> | no no |
| [13:20:05] | <halcyonCorsair> | vagrant? |
| [13:20:13] | <ergonlogic> | just aegir stuff, rather than drupal |
| [13:20:18] | <ergonlogic> | vagrantup.com |
| [13:20:30] | <halcyonCorsair> | and by network, you mean? |
| [13:20:56] | <ergonlogic> | an aegir server, and web or db nodes |
| [13:21:21] | <rovo> | ah, so you setup aegir servers for groups |
| [13:21:25] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: will these manifests be public, or...? |
| [13:21:39] | <ergonlogic> | rovo, you can clone you live site, make changes then rename it (rather than clone over it) |
| [13:21:49] | <ergonlogic> | sure |
| [13:21:55] | <ergonlogic> | and the Vagrantfile |
| [13:21:59] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: as i run: aegir, 2xweb, 1xdb in several environments |
| [13:22:10] | <halcyonCorsair> | so i'm pretty interested in that |
| [13:22:19] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: once I clone a live, make changes to it, what next to get it back to live |
| [13:22:24] | <ergonlogic> | right, this is to bootstrap testing/dev on multiserver, mainly |
| [13:23:11] | <ergonlogic> | rovo, well, as I say, it's really only for static sites, because you'll lose any changes on the site that happen while you're developing on it |
| [13:23:22] | <rovo> | ah ok |
| [13:23:47] | <ergonlogic> | but basically, once you're happy with the clone, you just rename you're original site and then the clone |
| [13:24:06] | <ergonlogic> | with live data, better to use makefile/git/features |
| [13:24:18] | <ergonlogic> | or possibly dog |
| [13:24:28] | <ergonlogic> | but I haven't had a chance to check it out |
| [13:24:38] | <rovo> | so rename the live site to something else, then rename the approved clone, to whatever the live site was? |
| [13:24:50] | <ergonlogic> | wight |
| [13:25:00] | <ergonlogic> | right |
| [13:25:17] | <rovo> | One thing I feel like I am learning, is that there is actually less of an emphasis on using multisite of drupal, when working in aegir |
| [13:25:41] | <rovo> | and more of an emphasis to keep one site per platform, unless you want things to get a bit complicated |
| [13:25:55] | <ergonlogic> | well, it really depends on your use-case |
| [13:26:18] | <ergonlogic> | at Koumbit, we have a couple hundred sites on a common platform |
| [13:26:48] | <ergonlogic> | for the cloning workflow, there's no need to have multiple platforms, per se |
| [13:27:00] | <rovo> | ok, well that sounds interesting ot me |
| [13:27:26] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: could you tell me a little more about your cloning workflow? |
| [13:28:49] | <ergonlogic> | that's really it... I posted a feature request about a year ago... to have the renames be simultaneous, but there hasn;t been any movement on that |
| [13:28:50] | <rovo> | like as far as establishing the site initially, subdomain naming convention, process used to get from live to dev, and back to live? |
| [13:30:35] | <rovo> | it just seems there is a little more to it, as I think I am dropping it somewhere in attempting to work that way |
| [13:30:45] | <ergonlogic> | I like using makefiles to manage the codebase/platform, as it's easily and consistently replicatable |
| [13:30:50] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: dog? |
| [13:30:59] | <ergonlogic> | drupal-on-git |
| [13:31:06] | <ergonlogic> | drupal.org/project/dog |
| [13:31:16] | <ergonlogic> | check it out, very cool |
| [13:31:46] | <ergonlogic> | rovo, makefiles make migrating from a local dev env to prod server alot easier, for example |
| [13:31:49] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: do you have your wip vagrant file anywhere? eg. github? |
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| [13:32:48] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: ok. right now I have site.com on a platform. I am going to clone it to dev.sitename.com |
| [13:33:06] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: yeah, but from last week... hold on and I'll push a new one |
| [13:33:20] | <rovo> | but when you clone, i am probably missing something? |
| [13:33:56] | <rovo> | so once I've cloned site.com to dev.site.com ... i can work no the files there, on dev.site.com... make theme updates and what not. |
| [13:34:25] | <mig5> | 13:01 < rovo> I think I will be fine working this way, but I am puzzled why if Aegir manage something as complex as that, why not be able to just launch a site instance, clone it to a dev instance, work on the dev(updates); then once changes have been approved, just clone the dev back over the live instance. I find it hard to understand what prevents a process like that in aegir |
| [13:34:40] | <mig5> | how do you expect to retain the database changes in the live site that occurred while you worked on the dev site |
| [13:34:55] | <mig5> | e.g people adding comments, nodes, updating their profile... |
| [13:35:18] | <mig5> | if you work on the dev site for a week, and then overwrite the live site with that dev version, you lose a week's production data |
| [13:35:26] | <mig5> | so, that's why this model works the way it does |
| [13:35:27] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: hmm, the dog just seems a bit unnecessary for someone used to working with git -- the only possibly useful bits being dog-rollup/dog-rollout, but other than that... |
| [13:36:20] | <rovo> | mig5: that is a correct concern for me as well... but if I am at some point cloning the live site to the dev platform to make updates, while the live site continues on, wont there be some missed public/user updates made to the database; or is the idea to just keep it at a minimum? |
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| [13:36:34] | <mig5> | rovo: obviously yes, in the dev site it will go out of sync |
| [13:36:51] | <mig5> | if that is unbearable, don't use any database-driven product, be it Drupal, Wordpress, etc :) |
| [13:37:10] | <mig5> | if you are just working on a theme or something, you shouldn't care about the data |
| [13:37:12] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: backup/restore to mitigate? |
| [13:37:16] | <mig5> | or that ^ |
| [13:37:26] | <rovo> | right, no it's not unbearable... just trying to undertstand where the difference is between the 2 processes of working |
| [13:37:37] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: are you using features (drupal.org/project/features) much? |
| [13:37:48] | <mig5> | the fact is the db will always go out of sync: either you need to find a tool that handles that, or be like me, and don't consider anything in the database to be relevant |
| [13:37:48] | <rovo> | i have not been making use of features |
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| [13:38:33] | <rovo> | ok, so then what is the advantage of cloning the site to a whole new platform, to later on migrate the live site to the dev platform, that is now out of date? |
| [13:38:38] | <mig5> | you can always carry database changes you made in *dev* that need to be pushed to *live*, through Features, or simple hook_update() in a miscellaneous module, or something like backup/migrate / node export stuff |
| [13:39:09] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: https://github.com/ergonlogic/Vagrantfile-s- |
| [13:39:11] | <mig5> | im confused, you don't migrate a live site to an out of date platform (and platforms don't really go out of date, databases do) |
| [13:39:36] | <mig5> | you push your dev changes into code, build a fresh platform containing those changes, and migrate the live site to that new platform, and delete the old |
| [13:40:04] | <mig5> | i challenge you to just try it for a week :) |
| [13:40:38] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: as I said, the cloning thing is only for a mostly static site |
| [13:40:55] | <rovo> | mig5: i believe you :) i'm sure you've thought it through long and clear; i'm just trying to see it that way too |
| [13:40:56] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: cool |
| [13:41:19] | <mig5> | rovo: i think the trick is to just try it, and keep asking questions until it 'clicks' |
| [13:41:35] | <mig5> | eventually you'll slap your forehead 'of course, now i see *why* one should do it this way' |
| [13:42:00] | <rovo> | i had a bit of forehead slapping just today on the metro reading your article |
| [13:42:55] | <mig5> | hopefully in a good way :) |
| [13:42:57] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: http://dcycleproject.org/ might be helpful |
| [13:43:20] | <ergonlogic> | hi mig5 |
| [13:43:25] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: ha, that is interesting |
| [13:43:26] | <mig5> | hi |
| [13:43:26] | <hefring> | privet |
| [13:43:29] | <mig5> | nice link, not seen that before |
| [13:43:43] | <mig5> | even they are the same as me: |
| [13:43:44] | <mig5> | dCycle does not define a method for content staging. |
| [13:43:48] | <mig5> | http://dcycleproject.org/basics |
| [13:43:55] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: it elaborates on mig5's article, and formalizes it for team-based dev |
| [13:43:59] | <mig5> | that's because with a database-backed system, it's not possible |
| [13:44:30] | <rovo> | damn databases.... :| arggh |
| [13:44:36] | <ergonlogic> | yeah dCycle's from a fellow Koumbiteer |
| [13:45:26] | <ergonlogic> | we're looking at ways to simplify it with some Aegir extensions perhaps |
| [13:45:36] | <rovo> | you guys might not want to answer this, but I am using omega/barracuda ; i feel like i'm getting conflicting info on where I should be creating new platforms. |
| [13:46:01] | <ergonlogic> | probably ;) |
| [13:46:11] | <rovo> | with plain aegir, it was so easy for me to know where to put stuff... but now I'm really thrown |
| [13:47:19] | <rovo> | i went with the omega setup, for the ease of having a pure nginx setup |
| [13:47:39] | <rovo> | i thought it might give me a little more breathing room on my server |
| [13:50:07] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: you can change the line 'config.vm.box = "squeeze-2011-09-29"' for any of the sqeeze base boxes here: http://www.vagrantbox.es/search/?q=squeeze |
| [13:50:17] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: /data/disk/o1/platforms <-- simplest place |
| [13:51:07] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: ah, yeah i'd probably go with www.vagrantbox.es/search/?q=lucid |
| [13:51:14] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: and I'm stuck at preseeding the aegir-hostmaster install through puppet |
| [13:51:15] | <rovo> | hm, that seems good. I've been throwing them in /data/disk/name/distro/001 |
| [13:51:35] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: that'd work |
| [13:51:35] | <rovo> | that was probably a big no no somewhere about doing that. |
| [13:51:38] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: the difference between debian/ubuntu & puppet prefixed? |
| [13:51:44] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: ah yeah, don't do that |
| [13:51:51] | <rovo> | raaroo |
| [13:52:11] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: meh... first thing I did was build my own base box |
| [13:52:28] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: next time you run OCTOPUS.sh.txt depending on your options, thinks will get updated / recreated in data/disk/name/distro/002 and then data/disk/name/distro/003 ... |
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| [13:53:02] | <ergonlogic> | btw: http://ergonlogic.com/node/21 |
| [13:53:26] | <rovo> | any tips, for gently moving a site out of there, back into disk/01/platforms ? |
| [13:53:39] | <rovo> | ha |
| [13:53:55] | <rovo> | i guess i will establish a platform there, then in aegir migrate to it |
| [13:54:05] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: have you had any success preseeding aegir w/ puppet? |
| [13:54:34] | <mig5> | ergonlogic: not specifically with puppet, but Vertice once wrote manifests for it which will be rather out of date but maybe a good start |
| [13:55:01] | <ergonlogic> | on github? |
| [13:55:06] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: haha, sounding a bit messy prior to vagrant there :) |
| [13:55:08] | <mig5> | https://github.com/Vertice/puppet-aegir |
| [13:55:13] | <ergonlogic> | those would pre-date the .debs |
| [13:55:16] | <mig5> | yes |
| [13:55:24] | <rovo> | is there a good play for finding make files? |
| [13:55:48] | <rovo> | just thinking people like sharing them or something like that |
| [13:55:50] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, I figured it might end up being easier to automate a manual install |
| [13:55:52] | <mig5> | i have not built aegir under vagrant, but i build aegir with Fabric calls using my tool madelon, which builds VPS at Linode/Rackspace etc https://github.com/mig5/madelon |
| [13:56:00] | <mig5> | but i'd rather puppetise it eventually |
| [13:56:11] | <mig5> | https://github.com/mig5/madelon/blob/master/hooks/aegir/aegir.py |
| [13:56:20] | <mig5> | very similar, almost identical, to how we do jenkins tests in aegir dev itself |
| [13:56:32] | <ergonlogic> | I was looking earlier |
| [13:56:34] | <mig5> | but rather 'specific' to using Libcloud to building servers, not vagrant |
| [13:57:20] | <ergonlogic> | I'm just learning puppet though, so it's an interesting challenge |
| [13:58:09] | <mig5> | yeah part of the trick is the automation... not sure how to properly preseed in puppet, as we have a lot of annoying prompts in the .deb packages :) |
| [13:58:27] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: they're a little complicated, but you can check out Koumbit's makefiles: https://redmine.koumbit.net/projects/maj/repository |
| [13:58:28] | <mig5> | this was why the install.sh rocked :) |
| [13:58:49] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: sigh... yeah :) |
| [13:58:55] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: cool thanks |
| [13:59:11] | <mig5> | if you could somehow install the packages without the prompts, you could do an Exec of drush hostmaster-install......... *maybe* |
| [13:59:32] | <mig5> | but it's probably something for #puppet channel, on the subject of how to preseed. i know with Postfix, it 'just works' |
| [13:59:37] | <mig5> | and mysql |
| [13:59:40] | <mig5> | maybe it ignores the prompts |
| [13:59:56] | <mig5> | and you have to set the config later as a File definition |
| [13:59:58] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: well, I started with 'debconf-get-selections | grep aegir' |
| [14:00:10] | <ergonlogic> | to generate a preseed |
| [14:00:13] | <mig5> | check out our jenkins tests for that |
| [14:00:18] | <mig5> | as we do it already |
| [14:00:20] | <mig5> | might save you some time |
| [14:00:25] | <mig5> | as to how puppet handles that stuff, i'm not sure |
| [14:00:41] | <ergonlogic> | you can specify a responsefile |
| [14:01:17] | <ergonlogic> | https://github.com/ergonlogic/Vagrantfile-s-/blob/master/manifests/hostm... |
| [14:01:29] | <ergonlogic> | except it's not working... |
| [14:01:30] | <mig5> | wow |
| [14:01:33] | <mig5> | i didn't know that.. |
| [14:01:45] | <mig5> | i just exec a mysql root password in my mysql manifest |
| [14:01:48] | <mig5> | and don't preseed anything |
| [14:01:55] | <ergonlogic> | I'm not even using the puppet-apt module, which makes this all easier, I'm sure |
| [14:02:02] | <mig5> | neither am i |
| [14:02:49] | <mig5> | for mysql i do something like http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/My_Sql_Server_Patterns |
| [14:03:55] | <ergonlogic> | in the aegir install, I seem to get prompted repeatedly for the mysql server password... even though the server's already been installed |
| [14:04:23] | <ergonlogic> | so I think it may be something to do with http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/d2848af48e5939918131b97... |
| [14:04:30] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [14:04:43] | <mig5> | that's what i meant re: we are very 'prompty' in the deb |
| [14:04:58] | <ergonlogic> | but I'll pester anarcat about it tomorrow ;) |
| [14:05:04] | <mig5> | which was why i never bothered attempting it in puppet, though we do successfully preseed it in our jenkins / fabric tests |
| [14:05:05] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: i dont' think the debian packaged aegir is the way to go |
| [14:05:15] | <mig5> | http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014.git |
| [14:11:42] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: here are my makefiles too: http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/ergonlogic/1237618.git/tree/refs/heads/master |
| [14:12:16] | <rovo> | oh nice, so different from koumbit |
| [14:12:25] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: is there any way from provision/platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc that i can tell out whether i'm cloning or doing a fresh install, or? |
| [14:12:28] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: I haven't tried jenkins yet, so I can't really see how that works |
| [14:12:45] | <mig5> | ergonlogic: the jenkins stuff is not that relevant, it's more that we are invoking python (fabric) scripts which run ssh commands on remote hosts |
| [14:12:57] | <mig5> | and in doing so, we do preseed stuff in ssh |
| [14:13:15] | <mig5> | all i mean is that i haven't attempted it in the 'puppet way' |
| [14:13:26] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: not sure what you mean |
| [14:13:30] | <mig5> | when doing what? |
| [14:13:33] | <mig5> | installing aegir? |
| [14:13:38] | <rovo> | do you guys find trouble with aegir, when you just point it to the Make file, for it to actually provision the the platform...download the files |
| [14:14:06] | <ergonlogic> | aha! http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014.git/blob/HEAD:/aegir_6... |
| [14:14:12] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [14:14:17] | <mig5> | that ^^ |
| [14:14:22] | <rovo> | I always get 2 directory errors... |
| [14:14:34] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: eg. on site creation or clone, provision/platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc:_provision_drupal_create_directories() is called and from within i want to be able to tell if this is a clone or brand new site |
| [14:14:54] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: ah, not hostmaster install |
| [14:15:04] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: not usually, no |
| [14:15:06] | <mig5> | gotcha, i confused Aegir Clone with Git Clone :) |
| [14:15:29] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: you're using the raw view? |
| [14:15:41] | <rovo> | The directory /data/disk/01/platforms/hillandale does not contain a valid Drupal installation |
| [14:15:41] | <rovo> | Drupal sites directory /data/disk/01/platforms/hillandale/sites is not writable by the provisioning script |
| [14:16:01] | <rovo> | whhops, sorry was trying to paste the link, not the actual error |
| [14:16:32] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: I don't think so :/ clone invokes provision-deploy, and it doesn't look like we pass an argument or anything to it.. |
| [14:16:40] | <rovo> | I always get that in the log message, i figured just download the make file, and make the platform directory, then point aegir to it, but maybe i need to use drush manually to run the make file? |
| [14:16:56] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: you might be able to write a post hook or something in drush though to handle what you're trying to do? not sure |
| [14:17:22] | <Mac_Weber> | hello, I'm using barracuda+octopus, but I need to create a site not on aegir. Right now I'm getting 403 Forbidden on that site. How to fix it? |
| [14:17:24] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: ah well...i just need a little bit of extra logic to unlink / relink a few things |
| [14:28:37] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: my preference is to point the platform creation page right to a specific git commit, such as: http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/ergonlogic/1237618.git/blob_plain/5474694e... |
| [14:29:13] | <rovo> | interesting I did not realize it would accept that |
| [14:29:15] | <ergonlogic> | which should build you an Open Atrium on a Pressflow core, iirc |
| [14:29:37] | <ergonlogic> | the only drawback I've seen is when d.o is flaky |
| [14:29:41] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: i think tags are a bit safer TBH |
| [14:29:56] | <halcyonCorsair> | and i've been meaning to look in to caching the drush make downloads |
| [14:30:16] | <rovo> | but in the platform creation page it says the Publish path, needs to be created manually, so of course I do that first right? |
| [14:30:18] | <ergonlogic> | well, that's my sandbox, so... |
| [14:30:20] | <halcyonCorsair> | i think mig5's solution of squid is the wrong way... |
| [14:30:26] | <halcyonCorsair> | sorry mig5 :) |
| [14:30:44] | <ergonlogic> | but I point to specific tags for OA's makefile |
| [14:32:21] | <ergonlogic> | my point though, is that you want to be able to rebuild the platform exactly, rather than chasing master |
| [14:33:31] | <rovo> | so even if I point to the hosted make files... I still get the directory errors |
| [14:35:19] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: any idea what this particular line is about? http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014.git/blob/HEAD:/aegir_6... |
| [14:35:29] | <ergonlogic> | "seen true"? |
| [14:36:17] | <mig5> | i think it's specifically to get around some problem we had with continual prompts for that mysql root pw |
| [14:36:24] | <mig5> | darthsteven discovered that I think |
| [14:36:37] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: you're running "drush make" as the aegir user? |
| [14:36:48] | <mig5> | we had an issue where we were preseeding it but some strangeness in the provision deb meant it kept being prompt (it was 'forced' to be reset to false) |
| [14:37:00] | <ergonlogic> | that's the problem I've been having, so I'll see about that |
| [14:37:19] | <ergonlogic> | I'll try that |
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| [14:40:26] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: i guess aegir is running drush make as the aegir user |
| [14:40:42] | <rovo> | could it possibly not be? |
| [14:41:40] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: no, you're right |
| [14:42:45] | <ergonlogic> | is there actually a drupal install in your platform directory? |
| [14:43:23] | <rovo> | nope |
| [14:43:42] | <rovo> | i was thinking that is what the aegir system would do with the make file ... |
| [14:44:48] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: I havent't used barracuda for a long while... but shouldn't your platforms directory be under /var/aegir? |
| [14:45:14] | <rovo> | it seems to be here /data/disk/01/platforms/ |
| [14:45:26] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: nah, they go under /data/disk/<user>/ then either platforms or static |
| [14:45:56] | <ergonlogic> | odd |
| [14:46:03] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: the platforms that are put in /data/disk/001/platforms/ are the ones the OCTOPUS scripts put in there -- shouldn't be added by users |
| [14:46:36] | <rovo> | right, sorry i put 01 above , but just mean that as <user> |
| [14:46:49] | <rovo> | im not actually in 001 |
| [14:46:50] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: BoA has a lot of cool stuff, but its also a bit batshit crazy |
| [14:47:08] | <rovo> | yeah, the filesystem drives me nuts |
| [14:47:16] | <rovo> | i really miss var/aegir/ |
| [14:47:33] | <ergonlogic> | right, I like chive and mariadb |
| [14:47:49] | <rovo> | i've yet to use or know what chive is good for |
| [14:47:58] | <rovo> | but i do like using mariadb, tat is cool |
| [14:48:16] | <ergonlogic> | I'll intend to implement them in my puppet manifest, once I get the basic install down. |
| [14:48:20] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: some people don't like the commandline :) |
| [14:48:33] | <ergonlogic> | chive is an ajaxy phpmyadmin |
| [14:48:35] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: also, its easier to fuckup on the commandline... |
| [14:48:46] | <rovo> | ohhh, interesting, never even tried it |
| [14:48:47] | <ergonlogic> | I prefer 'drush sqlc' |
| [14:49:56] | <ergonlogic> | I think I'll stick with apache though... anything else cool in BOA? |
| [14:50:13] | <mig5> | just confusion |
| [14:50:14] | <rovo> | bunch of caching systems, but not using them |
| [14:51:23] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: lol |
| [14:51:41] | <rovo> | well, i'm plenty confused |
| [14:51:52] | <mig5> | the whole /data/disk thing throws me :) |
| [14:51:53] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: you should run drush vanilla, but use nginx /php5-fpm -- way better :) |
| [14:51:56] | <mig5> | i will ad mit |
| [14:53:13] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: as i understand it, its so you can create a *bunch* of aegir's on the system, but since barracuda (/var/aegir) takes care of the underlying config, you can break an individual octopus (/data/disk/<user>) without breaking the others...at least thats what i *think* its for |
| [14:53:28] | <mig5> | i see |
| [14:53:45] | <ergonlogic> | halcyonCorsair: 'drush vanilla'? is that the 5.x version of drush make-me-a-sandwich? :) |
| [14:54:04] | <halcyonCorsair> | ergonlogic: oops, i meant vanilla aegir |
| [14:54:17] | <halcyonCorsair> | and sudo drush make-me-an-aegir! |
| [14:54:19] | <Mac_Weber> | hello, I'm using barracuda+octopus, but I need to create a site not on aegir. Right now I'm getting 403 Forbidden on that site. How to fix it? |
| [14:54:20] | <halcyonCorsair> | :P |
| [14:54:47] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: start with the nginx access and error logs, what do they say? |
| [14:56:14] | <Mac_Weber> | halcyonCorsair where are they located at? |
| [14:56:47] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: how have you tried to add this site btw? |
| [14:57:07] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: and /var/log/nginx |
| [14:58:18] | <Mac_Weber> | halcyonCorsair I added a vhost myself |
| [14:58:47] | <rovo> | maybe reload the server? |
| [14:59:59] | <Mac_Weber> | the error log is empty, it looks it is not recording the errors. Access log is working |
| [15:00:48] | <rovo> | halcyonCorsair: do you think the make file has to be located inside the platform folder? |
| [15:01:52] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: do you have access_log and error_log directives to your vhost config? is it definitely getting included? |
| [15:03:25] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: the specific directory in which you're trying to build a platform should *not* exist if you're passing a makefile to aegir on the platform page |
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| [15:03:43] | <ergonlogic> | generally, anyway |
| [15:04:26] | <rovo> | but then how will Aegir know where to put the platform? |
| [15:04:55] | <rovo> | are you saying from the aegir admin provisioning create platform screen... or from the command line, just using drush make |
| [15:06:58] | <ergonlogic> | if you build the platform by hand, then point the platform creation form to the one you've built, and leave the makefile field blank |
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| [15:07:14] | <anarcat> | hello |
| [15:07:14] | <hefring> | privet |
| [15:07:21] | <Mac_Weber> | halcyonCorsair [error] 9526#0: *509 access forbidden by rule, client: 187.114.xx.xxx, server: sub.mydomain.info, request: "GET /install.php HTTP/1.1", host: "sub.mydomain.info" |
| [15:08:03] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: yeah i can probably manually create the platform...but i'm just thinking there must be a larger problem here |
| [15:08:07] | <ergonlogic> | if you want to build the platform automatically, specify a path for the platform to be built (that doesn;t already exist), then point to the makefile, either locally or remote |
| [15:08:15] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: hiya |
| [15:08:34] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: very possibly |
| [15:08:39] | <rovo> | oh, so delete the path i created for it? |
| [15:08:48] | <rovo> | i did a manual mkdir in terminal |
| [15:09:11] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: where did you put the vhost file? |
| [15:10:46] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: yeah, don't create a path for it |
| [15:10:51] | <rovo> | ok |
| [15:10:56] | <rovo> | now i get new errors :) |
| [15:11:30] | <Mac_Weber> | halcyonCorsair the vhost looks to be working. It is redirecting to drupal's install.php there |
| [15:11:30] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: https://gist.github.com/c36e636bd3d94e9ea363 |
| [15:11:37] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: its probably this rule in config/includes/nginx_advanced_include.conf |
| [15:11:43] | <halcyonCorsair> | Mac_Weber: http://pastebin.com/JfvPU1h7 |
| [15:12:37] | <Mac_Weber> | halcyonCorsair I'm getting 403 Forbidden |
| [15:12:46] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: i'm getting this error when trying to use this make https://redmine.koumbit.net/projects/maj/repository/revisions/master/ent... |
| [15:13:17] | <ergonlogic> | rovo: try the other one I suggested |
| [15:13:33] | <rovo> | this one? http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/ergonlogic/1237618.git/blob_plain/5474694e... |
| [15:13:40] | <ergonlogic> | yep |
| [15:13:55] | <ergonlogic> | koumbit's ones can't be easily called remotely |
| [15:14:37] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I've been wrestling with preseeding the aegir .deb |
| [15:14:56] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: is there a reason we're prompted repeatedly for the db password? |
| [15:15:25] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: when you clone a site, is it meant to copy the files directory, or...no? |
| [15:17:25] | <rovo> | ergonlogic: when trying your make, I get a new 2 errors https://gist.github.com/733c00866327db18f5c6 |
| [15:17:45] | <mig5> | yes |
| [15:18:17] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: specifically, clone (and migrate) make a tarball of the sites/$site dir inside the platform, and unpack that on the new platform |
| [15:18:20] | <mig5> | so files should be included |
| [15:18:24] | <mig5> | unless your files dir was a symlink or something |
| [15:19:39] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: yeah it was, the problem i seem to be getting is that after my code updates the symlink, the clone tries to go and create a bunch of directories eg, sites/url/files....i think |
| [15:21:00] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: it only creates the dir if it doesn't already exist |
| [15:21:14] | <mig5> | specifically within an if (!is_dir) context |
| [15:21:50] | <ergonlogic> | I haven't seen this one before: "Could not download platform using drush make. No platform present" |
| [15:22:23] | <mig5> | maybe a network error fetching stuff from drupal.org. try with 'drush make' manually to reproduce |
| [15:22:44] | <rovo> | mig5: i'm trying your now https://raw.github.com/mig5/mig5_profiler/master/mig5_profiler.make |
| [15:23:55] | <rovo> | For yours I get "No core project specified." |
| [15:26:43] | <HaloFX> | ergonlogic: I am trying to recreate the OpenAtrium install part of the London presentation, for a local group presentation on Aegir. It used make scripts from your sandbox. I found the scripts, but they are choking on the translation piece. Do you know if this is something broke since then? |
| [15:27:04] | <mig5> | rovo: that's an install profile's makefile |
| [15:27:21] | <rovo> | hm |
| [15:27:23] | <mig5> | you want the stub makefile or 'build file' https://raw.github.com/mig5/builds/master/mig5_platform.build |
| [15:27:27] | <HaloFX> | ergonlogic: I have seen that error a couple times the last couple days trying to put together working make scripts for atrium. |
| [15:27:32] | <mig5> | you might need to re-read my article to understand why :) |
| [15:28:18] | <rovo> | so put the link to the build file, where the Makefile field is in the platform creation? |
| [15:28:26] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [15:28:43] | <rovo> | ok, givin that a whirl now |
| [15:28:44] | <rovo> | :) |
| [15:29:04] | <rovo> | I was wondering what all these nice build files were that you have |
| [15:29:43] | <rovo> | mig5: what do you know, that worked |
| [15:29:54] | <rovo> | well thank you kindly for sorting me out there |
| [15:36:57] | <rovo> | wow, creating all kinds of platforms now...wild here |
| [15:37:11] | <rovo> | regular platform creationism going on here |
| [15:38:43] | <rovo> | ok, one more before i pass out... now that I've created new platforms, when i go back to existing sites on other platforms, there is no option to migrate or clone them to the new platforms |
| [15:38:59] | <rovo> | the new platforms don't show up in the list of options |
| [15:39:05] | <mig5> | it's because those sites aren't using the same install profile as what is on the other platforms |
| [15:39:17] | <mig5> | you can only migrate to platforms that have the same install profile available |
| [15:39:46] | <mig5> | otherwise you'd be able to migrate, say, an openatrium site to a drupal6 platform and really mess your site up. |
| [15:40:08] | <mig5> | so you probably didn't want to build platforms using mig5_profiler profile :) |
| [15:40:11] | <rovo> | mig5: ok, that makes senese |
| [15:40:22] | <rovo> | hm |
| [15:40:46] | <rovo> | but how can i then just create a new drupal 7 platform that my existing drupal 7 sites can potentially be migrated to? |
| [15:41:11] | <rovo> | /the rabbit hole// |
| [15:42:07] | <rovo> | grantd, i can just d/l the latest d7 to my server, and create a new platform from that, but i'm assuming that won't solve the different profile issue right |
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| [15:44:20] | <ergonlogic> | HaloFX: I haven't been using those makefiles for a while, so something could have changed |
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| [15:46:17] | <ergonlogic> | I'd suggest running 'drush make' with --debug |
| [15:50:00] | <rovo> | I thought a Profile is what basically created/defined a Platform |
| [15:51:00] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: whaaaatt? http://pastebin.com/LTFvpnxm <-- weird permissions coming up on clone |
| [15:51:01] | <rovo> | so you have profiles and make and build files |
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| [15:56:00] | <HaloFX> | ergonlogic: looks like it is a certificate error while trying to pull the translate files from openatrium.com with https |
| [15:56:33] | <rovo> | So say right now, my site is no drupal 7.8 and i want to migrate it to drupal 7.10 later. If I add a platform for drupal 7.10 ; what do i need to do in order to make sure my site can migrate to this new platform? |
| [15:56:35] | <HaloFX> | I can get it with a browser with no error, but curl seems to be checking the cert |
| [15:57:06] | <rovo> | as far as the profiles needing to be the same? |
| [15:57:23] | <mig5> | rovo: a makefile like this http://pastie.org/private/ydsysvsk6iqv9gep9smgw , unless you use yor own custom install profile for that site |
| [15:57:28] | <mig5> | your* |
| [15:59:01] | <rovo> | mig5: what there is going to make it so that my site can migrate to it? not sure what is the profile indication in that file |
| [15:59:14] | <mig5> | there *is* no profile indication there |
| [15:59:21] | <mig5> | it will just grab drupal 7.10 for you |
| [15:59:24] | <rovo> | ok |
| [15:59:27] | <mig5> | hence 'unless you use yor own custom install profile for that site |
| [15:59:27] | <mig5> | 15:57 <@mig5> your* |
| [15:59:30] | <mig5> | oops |
| [15:59:30] | <rovo> | so then my site won't migrate to it |
| [15:59:42] | <mig5> | yes it will... if your site uses standard Drupal 7 profile |
| [15:59:47] | <rovo> | ooh |
| [15:59:47] | <rovo> | ok |
| [15:59:59] | <mig5> | you have confused yourself by using a makefile of mine that was specific to using a certain install profile |
| [16:00:03] | <mig5> | :) |
| [16:00:32] | <rovo> | dang it, here's omega install throwing me for another loops, as it came installed with all these drupal 7 platforms, D, S, P ; and they all have a special Profile for some reason |
| [16:00:47] | <mig5> | your sites don't *have* to use their own special install profiles, but in certain circumstances it helps |
| [16:00:50] | <mig5> | right |
| [16:01:01] | <rovo> | so now sites I've built on those platforms, are stuck on there |
| [16:01:18] | <mig5> | so somehow you'd need to replicate 'building' those platforms with those special install profiles. drush make is a tool to make that easier for you is all |
| [16:01:22] | <rovo> | unless, i was more knowledgable of recreating profiles in my new drupal platforms |
| [16:02:02] | <rovo> | ugh, i dont get why there was even special profiles added to these, i'm sure there was some performance reason |
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| [16:02:58] | <HaloFX> | Technically, couldn't you go between profiles, as long as the packages were similar. Like when you upgrade from 6 to 7? |
| [16:03:25] | <rovo> | i didnt know you could upgrade between 6 and 7 |
| [16:03:53] | <mig5> | technically you can migrate sites between profiles, but it involves some magic. in the case of Drupal 6 > 7, Aegir handles that automatically for you as we see it would be a 'common' use case |
| [16:04:00] | <mig5> | so it's baked in |
| [16:04:16] | <mig5> | for other install profiles, i think we have some docs somewhere on how to do it but it isn't for the faint of heart |
| [16:04:30] | <rovo> | mig5: huh? aegir can upgrade a D6 to D7 ? |
| [16:04:38] | <mig5> | sure |
| [16:04:42] | <mig5> | i even did it with http://mig5.net :) |
| [16:04:44] | <rovo> | I had no idea |
| [16:04:57] | <mig5> | so long as your drupal 7 platform has all the equivalent modules your d6 site had, all ready to go, you can migrate to it |
| [16:05:07] | <HaloFX> | they demoed it at the London presentation |
| [16:05:11] | <mig5> | problem is a lot of modules don't have d7 versions, or broken upgrade paths |
| [16:05:15] | <rovo> | wow, so upgrade my D6 to D6.22 , then try to go to D7 ? |
| [16:05:35] | <mig5> | you can try, i'd be using Clone to test it first.. |
| [16:05:39] | <mig5> | as opposed to Migrate |
| [16:05:46] | <rovo> | for sure :) |
| [16:06:40] | <rovo> | alrighty |
| [16:06:43] | <rovo> | done for the nice |
| [16:06:44] | <rovo> | night |
| [16:06:48] | <rovo> | thanks for all the help |
| [16:06:59] | <rovo> | this has been interesting and fun |
| [16:07:03] | <HaloFX> | trick I found was to still follow the recommended method of stripping out out as many modules as possible, then turn off all contrib, flip back to Garland and then build back up after the move. |
| [16:07:23] | <HaloFX> | rovo: so did you get a working atrium install? |
| [16:08:01] | <rovo> | no, havent been trying to do that. Just been focusing on getting a clear workflow for dev > prod |
| [16:09:03] | <HaloFX> | ah, say you mention atrium and then creating lots of platforms. I can't find a working method to get it to go at the moment. |
| [16:09:30] | <rovo> | i'd just download the files to your server |
| [16:10:00] | <HaloFX> | yeah, but it is a cooler demo to do it through aegir with a make file! |
| [16:10:10] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: where on clone does the tarring of the files happen? |
| [16:11:26] | <Mac_Weber> | I can't get a website to work off aegir in a barracuda install. I keep getting 403 forbidden error. PHP is not being executed, too. How to fix it? |
| [16:12:53] | <mig5> | halcyonCorsair: it's in provision-deploy actually, as both Migrate and Clone invoke it |
| [16:13:14] | <mig5> | look at provision/platform/deploy.provision.inc |
| [16:13:33] | <mig5> | er, in fact it's probably in provision-backup |
| [16:13:41] | <mig5> | many layers of abstraction :) |
| [16:14:29] | <mig5> | platform/clone.provision.inc |
| [16:14:35] | <mig5> | it invokes provision-backup to create the tarball |
| [16:14:44] | <mig5> | then provision-deploy to unpack it on the target platform |
| [16:14:55] | <mig5> | with a new URL |
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| [20:17:31] | <juampy> | ping anarcat, darthsteven, mig5: hi, I am creating an installation profile. So far I have a make file ready which, when provided to Aegir on platform creation, downloads everything ok |
| [20:17:47] | <juampy> | now, I want to actually create the installation profile to enable modules and tweak configuration during the install |
| [20:18:03] | <juampy> | how do I need to structure the platform so Aegir discovers it? |
| [20:18:25] | <juampy> | to I give Aegir a simple make that references another make within the profile folder? |
| [20:18:30] | <juampy> | (to > do) |
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| [20:19:07] | <darthsteven> | juampy: http://drupal.org/node/1006620 |
| [20:19:08] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1006620 => Drush Make theory for happy profile development => 30 comments, 4 IRC mentions |
| [20:19:24] | <juampy> | thanks, reading... |
| [20:20:40] | <juampy> | wohooo! I get it now, I read that some time ago but I had to actually work on it to get the idea. Thanks! |
| [20:20:50] | <juampy> | darthsteven++ |
| [20:38:11] | <jonhattan> | juampy, also I wrote a quick howto in spanish http://urxen.faita.net/~jonhattan/drush_make_profile.html |
| [20:38:52] | <juampy> | thanks jonhattan! I got the idea with the English versin, I am writing the make stub file now. |
| [20:39:10] | <jonhattan> | mine is just some notes I used for a speech weeks back |
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| [21:27:24] | <darthsteven> | damn, we forgot to have the scrum again! |
| [21:27:30] | <darthsteven> | we'll have it in 3 minutes |
| [21:27:32] | <darthsteven> | scrum? |
| [21:27:32] | <hefring> | scrum is Every Tuesday at 10h00 UTC: 03h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 06h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 11h00 London, UK (CET), 20h00 Melbourne, Australia (EST) |
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| [21:30:48] | <darthsteven> | ping: mig5 anarcat grugnog mvc sfyn darthsteven |
| [21:30:54] | <darthsteven> | scrum! |
| [21:30:54] | <hefring> | scrum is Every Tuesday at 10h00 UTC: 03h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 06h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 11h00 London, UK (CET), 20h00 Melbourne, Australia (EST) |
| [21:31:02] | <darthsteven> | apologies for the late start |
| [21:31:06] | <darthsteven> | I'll begin |
| [21:31:16] | <darthsteven> | I've done nothing since last week on Aegir |
| [21:31:20] | <darthsteven> | that's it from me |
| [21:31:22] | <darthsteven> | anyone else? |
| [21:33:54] | <mig5> | nothing from me |
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| [21:45:16] | <darthsteven> | ok |
| [21:45:22] | <darthsteven> | we'll call that a scrum |
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| [21:47:09] | <snlnz> | mig5 not even a reply to me? |
| [21:49:07] | <mig5> | hey snlnz - flat out |
| [21:49:23] | <mig5> | I can't really take on more right now but I'll get back to you in a couple weeks if it can afford to wait that long |
| [21:51:01] | <snlnz> | mean that's all I really wanted to hear thanks man appreciate that! |
| [21:51:01] | <mig5> | oh you PM'd me |
| [21:51:11] | <mig5> | sorry |
| [21:51:31] | <snlnz> | no worries |
| [21:51:42] | <snlnz> | I emailed you first through mig5.net/contact |
| [21:51:51] | <mig5> | yeah i got that |
| [21:52:16] | <snlnz> | nice. I've played round with it all heaps, but I'd rather your expertise to do it once properly when you can. |
| [21:52:37] | <snlnz> | don't want to ask anyone else to be honest! :D |
| [21:53:30] | <mig5> | well i haven't really done any autoscaling stuff |
| [21:54:32] | <snlnz> | oh no! |
| [21:55:14] | <mig5> | same as 'self healing', i prefer to build things that don't need it :) |
| [21:55:36] | <snlnz> | well hence why I thought to put the situation to you and see what came back |
| [21:56:06] | <mig5> | yeh i may not be the right guy for the job i guess |
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| [22:03:13] | <snlnz> | that's pretty difficult to swallow considering all you've done! :) |
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| [22:16:08] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | where do i put issues that i do not know which module it belongs to? |
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| [22:27:12] | <hefring> | community => drush @sites - whacked? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-sites-whacked |
| [22:27:12] | <hefring> | community => admin quota=1 when quota set to unlimited => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/admin-quota1-when-quota-set-un... |
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| [00:53:11] | <neilsmind> | Is it possible to connect to remote aegir server mysql database without a direct connection? (i.e. using ssh tunneling since drush can use it) |
| [00:53:30] | <neilsmind> | trying to avoid opening firewall port for 3306 |
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| [01:21:42] | <juampy> | neismind: as far as I know it is programed to connect remotelly |
| [01:21:53] | <juampy> | you will have to open port 3306 |
| [01:24:31] | <anarcat> | geez, scrums are at 6hAM now?! |
| [01:24:37] | <anarcat> | that's not going to cut it for me :) |
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| [01:53:22] | <neilsmind> | juampy: Thank you for the clarification. I was kind of hoping that it would work similar to drush sql-sync where it connects remotely over ssh to do its stuff |
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| [01:55:00] | <neilsmind> | I subsequently saw articles about the hub/spoke approach vs. mesh. I actually think that mesh (where you can select a server, see what its sites/platforms/etc. included) would be cool as well. Regardless, I'm thrilled with aegir thusfar |
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| [03:43:20] | <noecc> | anarcat: http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2011-08-02#T100840 |
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| [05:16:49] | <mvc> | this is probably a dumb question, but where can i find the centos/redhat package for aegir? i thought there was one but http://community.aegirproject.org/handbook/operating-system-support#Cent... says there isn't |
| [05:17:44] | <mvc> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/67328 says to get aegir via git |
| [05:17:45] | <hefring> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/67328 => New RHEL/CentOS Install Notes for Aegir Hosting System => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [05:25:08] | <mvc> | anarcat: ^ |
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| [05:35:56] | <anarcat> | mvc: there is no rh package AFAIK |
| [05:36:29] | <anarcat> | mvc: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual has specific instructions for rh |
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| [05:58:58] | <mvc> | anarcat: ah. thanks for clarifying |
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| [06:16:06] | <mvc> | next dumb question: the manual says to use php 5.2 still, is that really the case? it says there are problems using drush with 5.3 but surely those bugs have been fixed by now |
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| [06:28:05] | <mvc> | anarcat: ^ (ping) |
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| [06:31:09] | <anarcat> | mvc: it works on 5.3 on our server |
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| [06:35:06] | <mvc> | anarcat: right, that's what i thought. i feel like i should update those docs then, it's an important point... |
| [06:37:31] | <anarcat> | it is |
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| [06:41:28] | <rovo> | halcyonCorsair: hola |
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| [06:54:00] | <rovo> | Has anyone had experience with both apache and nginx installs of aegir, and can share experiences about whether there were major performance differences? |
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| [07:07:03] | * mvc upgrades the notes on php 5.2 vs 5.3 at http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual#Review_System_Requir... ; comments welcome |
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| [07:13:37] | <darthsteven> | log pointer? |
| [07:13:44] | <darthsteven> | hefring: log pointer? |
| [07:13:44] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2011-10-04#T124271 |
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| [07:30:25] | <rovo> | who posted this link to the manual#Review ntes |
| [07:30:42] | <rovo> | says comments welcome, but not sure who to direct the comments to |
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| [07:37:08] | <joestewart> | rovo: mvc |
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| [07:43:38] | <rovo> | josh_k: ahh, didnt think to check for his nick up top of the list...thanks |
| [07:44:49] | <rovo> | mvc: this writeup is great. one area sticking out to me is the nginx section. It seems like setting up apache is covered, but nginx is more assumed? |
| [07:48:33] | <mvc> | rovo: all i did was change the php version notes which previously said that php 5.2 is recommended, that's what i was looking for feedback on |
| [07:48:57] | <mvc> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389/revisions/view/2309/2381 |
| [07:49:23] | <mvc> | i don't know anything about nginx, but if you do and have notes to contribute, that would be great |
| [07:52:06] | <rovo> | mvc: oh great. thanks for the clarity there... will probably try another install tonight, see if anything comes to mind |
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| [07:53:10] | <rovo> | mvc: your 5.3 notes are very clear with no errors |
| [07:54:38] | <mvc> | thx |
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| [08:14:11] | <rovo> | mvc: is this page then still relevant? http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/ubuntu-1004-specific-downgr... |
| [08:21:17] | <mvc> | rovo: hmm, i think so, but it should be clarified. i've done that now. |
| [08:23:44] | <rovo> | mvc: I think in the Aegir HAndbook tree... Admin Manual should maybe come before User Manual. I don't think anything in the User Manual can be done till it is installed through instructions found in the Admin Manual |
| [08:25:12] | <mvc> | rovo: seems logical, but i think i've messed around enough in the handbook for one day :) |
| [08:26:03] | <rovo> | okedoke |
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| [08:40:08] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: i run aegir on php 5.3 and it works just fine :) |
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| [09:01:53] | <rovo> | halcyonCorsair: sounds good |
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| [10:57:20] | <rovo> | I need to backup/export some of my sites off of Aegir , while I reinstall it. Any recommendations to do this so that I retain all my files.. |
| [10:58:05] | <halcyonCorsair> | rovo: try the backup task -- then use tar -tzvf <filename>.tar.gz to see if it got everything you need |
