IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-10-14 (GMT)

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[12:12:33]<ergonlogic>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=644519/names
[12:12:49]<ergonlogic>oops
[12:13:08]<ergonlogic>anarcat: found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=644519
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[12:15:30]<ergonlogic>I was figuring to go through the new maintainers guide w/ drush_make, but I don;t want to step on your toes
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[12:32:32]<grobot>can aegir rebuild from a make file by itself, or do i need to create the platform before migrating the site each time?
[12:38:41]<ergonlogic>grobot: what would you migrate a site to, if there isn't already a platform?
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[12:39:40]<grobot>ergonlogic: I'm just getting familiar with Aegir, so forgive me if the question seems silly. But I got the impression somewhere Aegir could build the platform from a drush make file as well.
[12:40:16]<ergonlogic>grobot: sure, there's a field for it on node/add/platform
[12:40:47]<grobot>thanks. But it won't rebuild the platform as a matter of course, that step is manual?
[12:41:07]<grobot>i.e. can I update the .make file on github, then hit redeploy and watch aegir bring the changes into the site
[12:41:07]<ergonlogic>the makefile could be local or remote (such as a raw view from a vcs)
[12:41:37]<grobot>so it's going to be two steps: 1. update platform, 2. migrate site
[12:41:51]<ergonlogic>there's no "redeploy"
[12:42:10]<ergonlogic>right, that way you have an automatic rollback if anything goes wrong
[12:42:33]<ergonlogic>1. is actually build updated platform
[12:44:20]<ergonlogic>best practice is that once a platform is built, you don't change it, but technically there's nothing stopping you
[12:44:43]<ergonlogic>you could, for example, do a "drush up", but it's risky
[12:45:50]<ergonlogic>fwiw, I believe there's a feature request to clone a platform
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[12:57:46]<grobot>basically considering using aegir as dev environment in this case, so looking for fastest method to update codebase through a deployment process
[12:58:21]<grobot>but also just getting the feel of aegir at the same time
[12:58:23]<grobot>thanks
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[13:00:48]<oldjoeclark>is there anybody
[13:00:52]<oldjoeclark>out there
[13:03:35]<oldjoeclark>I've got a question abouut creating a new server. Assuming I have a master Aegir server and I am creating a new server on a remote system, will Aegir automatically install and create an instance of Apache and MySQL on the new server? Or do I need to install those myself?
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[13:07:41]<oldjoeclark>ping: darthsteven
[13:10:01]<ergonlogic>oldjoeclark: you need to prepare the server yourself
[13:10:28]<ergonlogic>ref.: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30
[13:10:33]<oldjoeclark>Ok.
[13:11:11]<oldjoeclark>That's what I did, but I'm getting some permissions issues and I haven't been able to find any references to them.
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[13:11:37]<oldjoeclark>I'll check out the page you referenced. Thanks for the pointer.
[13:13:01]<oldjoeclark>i see - i don't think I added the aegir user to the www-data group
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[14:57:52]<mig5>anarcat: ping
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[15:11:12]<mig5>nm
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[15:33:01]<anarcat>mig5: pong
[15:39:16]<mig5>sorry all good: i needed to work out how to install sites from cli *and* send email notification and I know we refactored that
[15:39:34]<mig5>turns out just pass --client_email to provision-install and it works, even if you didn't create a client in the frontend (well in this case, there is no frontend)
[15:39:51]<anarcat>it's magic! :)
[15:39:56]<mig5>\o/
[15:40:06]<mig5>http://oyster.ignimgs.com/ve3d/images/04/99/49959_orig.jpg
[15:40:09]<anarcat>ergonlogic: you're not stepping on my toes, but i may be able to help you out or do it faster :P
[15:40:20]<anarcat>ergonlogic: if you want to learn though, drush_make is a good one as it's easy
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[19:17:01]<realityloop>anyone awake here?
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[21:56:13]<tejas>my aegir sites are working fine. I have two server (apache, mysql). both are servers in same server provider. when i have setup aegir i have set the external ip in mysql server. i want to set internal ip for that. Please help
[21:58:41]<tejas>I have change mysql server ip in server list & i have change in my.cnf to bind-address to internal ip
[21:59:31]<tejas>i have also add ip to connect mysql in internal ip
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[22:01:22]<tejas>i have check with apache to mysql with mysql -u user -h mysqlhost -p connection working
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[22:57:43]<helmo>tejas: do you get an error from the server verification?
[22:58:18]<tejas>no when open site is says database connection error
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[23:16:04]<ergonlogic>anarcat: cool, thanks... I figured it should be easy, since it's really just dropping it in place.
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[23:19:20]<ergonlogic>anarcat: when it comes time to upload to a repo, can I use debian.koumbit.net for learning/testing?
[23:23:16]<ergonlogic>mig5: fyi, I submitted a patch to drush for that awhile back: http://drupal.org/node/1116414
[23:23:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1116414 => add --notify option to user-create => Drush, Core Commands, normal, needs review, 11 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[01:13:19]<ergonlogic>anarcat: say... with drush_make packaged in debian, I think there would be a good case for refactoring the drupal packages to build based on a simple makefile, which in turn would remove the code duplication issue for the aegir packages
[01:13:35]<ergonlogic>I think
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[01:32:51]<anarcat>ergonlogic: we're already using a makefile
[01:33:36]<ergonlogic>anarcat: right, *we* are, but I don't think the debian drupal package is
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[01:34:04]<ergonlogic>wasn't that one of the problems with getting aegir into the official repos?
[01:34:16]<anarcat>ergonlogic: no
[01:34:30]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i mean, the package is using the makefile to install drupal
[01:34:32]<ergonlogic>oh, nevermind then
[01:34:35]<anarcat>because it's using hostmaster-install
[01:34:41]<anarcat>and hostmaster-install uses drush make
[01:35:02]<anarcat>but you're right it's a first step
[01:38:53]<ergonlogic>I mean that this one could use drush_make: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/drupal6, no?
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[01:43:16]<anarcat>ergonlogic: it doesn't need to
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[02:28:28]<sdboyer>anarcat: ping
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[03:03:17]<anarcat>sdboyer: pong
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[03:22:57]<sdboyer>anarcat: so...occupywallstreet might need some hardcore aegir shit
[03:23:00]<sdboyer>possibly, nothing for sure yet
[03:23:12]<sdboyer>i figure you might be down? :P
[03:23:31]<anarcat>sure
[03:23:33]<anarcat>what's up
[03:23:46]<sdboyer>oh nothing major
[03:24:08]<sdboyer>just a series of site families with instances spun up for every occupation location
[03:24:13]<sdboyer>one for general assemblies
[03:24:26]<sdboyer>possibly also one for media management, and maybe even the libraries
[03:24:33]<sdboyer>...like i said, major :)
[03:24:46]<anarcat>i see
[03:24:55]<anarcat>well, i can help with the install, i guess?
[03:25:38]<sdboyer>i don't have "specific questions" at this point, yes, it's more like i'm trying to take a temperature check on how much involvement you can offer
[03:25:51]<sdboyer>helping with the install would be an excellent starting point :)
[03:26:12]<sdboyer>it's not for sure yet, i'm sussing out options
[03:26:14]<anarcat>i am quite busy but can help with that
[03:26:20]<sdboyer>sure
[03:26:28]<anarcat>it seems that they are gearing up quite late though, isn't the big occupation tomorrow?
[03:26:30]<sdboyer>yeah, i'm in much the same situation, heh
[03:26:56]<sdboyer>think of this as a more permanent effort
[03:27:19]<sdboyer>a replacement for/upgrade to nycga.net
[03:27:27]<sdboyer>(for the general assembly site, anyway)
[03:27:46]<anarcat>i see
[03:27:51]<anarcat>ok, well that's a good idea
[03:27:57]<anarcat>and again, i'm all go
[03:28:06]<sdboyer>great, ok
[03:28:11]<sdboyer>that's all i was really lookin for at the moment
[03:28:13]<anarcat>we could probably make something like "create your ga site here" for free or something
[03:28:18]<sdboyer>right right
[03:28:30]<sdboyer>trying to coordinate a ton of people to work on this while at pnwds, badcamp
[03:28:44]<sdboyer>and also marshal enough support in the internet/open source working groups that already exist within ows
[03:28:52]<sdboyer>which i'm unfortunately coming a bit late to, but...
[03:29:11]<sdboyer>well, they've just made a new GA site, which they've based on buddypress
[03:30:06]<sdboyer>i'm currently trying to balance between riding roughshod over what's going on (which i REALLY don't want to do) and bringing to bear every bit of influence i can muster from the drupal community to build some big, scalable shit fast
[03:30:47]<sdboyer>no one has really built anything that lets all the different occupations (which have gotta be in the hundreds now, i think) to coexist as part of a larger, somewhat-coherent online presence
[03:30:55]<sdboyer>so yeah, that's what we're taking aim at
[03:30:58]<sdboyer>blah blah blah
[03:31:05]<sdboyer>i gotta go write emails about it, i'll let you know as i figger stuff out :)
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[03:33:23]<anarcat>hehe
[03:33:25]<anarcat>cool
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[04:23:40]<Met4physica>seen omega8cc
[04:23:40]<hefring>omega8cc was last seen in #aegir 1 week 2 days ago saying 'h_efring: tell realityloop: this is a *very bad* idea, you should use AdvAgg module instead'.
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[05:05:32]<j0nathan>!pi majk/coo avec anarcat
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[05:06:04]<j0nathan>oups
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[05:34:47]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ping
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[06:10:01]<ergonlogic>I seem to have a working .deb for drush_make
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[06:12:18]<coughily>can somebody guide me to some troubleshooting steps for dealing with a site that won't import properly? aegir throws no errors but when I go to the site after import, I get the default install script as if the site is brand new... stumped
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[06:39:19]<ergonlogic>coughily: you've already looked through community.aegirproject.org/handbook?
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[06:50:44]<coughily>yea I have
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[06:55:00]<joestewart>coughily: any result if you type "sudo apache2ctl -S | grep example.com" ?
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[07:04:01]<joestewart>coughily: if no result from that command, what happens if you verify the site?
[07:05:26]<coughily>sorry I was in the middle or redoing some stuff.. I would run that command but I already restarted my process so give me a few.
[07:05:54]<joestewart>np, I was stepping away myself
[07:06:57]<coughily>having said that I expect it to give me a result.. I have a password restriction in the htaccess file of the site, and that actually prompts appropriately for a password when you try to pull up the site.. it's just that once you enter the pw all you get is the basic new installation steps page.
[07:07:41]<anarcat>ergonlogic: pong
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[07:39:13]<coughily>I think I figured it out joe.. looks like a problem related from going single to multisite without the appropriate db updating.. thanks for the suggestion though.
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[07:58:36]<ergonlogic>anarcat: hi
[07:58:49]<ergonlogic>got a drush_make .deb working
[07:59:13]<ergonlogic>would appreciate a review at some point
[08:00:03]<ergonlogic>anarcat: and access to upload to koumbit's repo
[08:01:09]<ergonlogic>for further testing and such
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[08:16:55]<anarcat>please update the ITP
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[08:42:22]<ergonlogic>ok, will do
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[08:47:54]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i can upload it to koumbit after review yes
[08:48:06]<anarcat>ergonlogic: you sir, are a machine
[08:48:24]<anarcat>ergonlogic: make sure you run your package through lintian, building with with debuild will do that automatically for you
[08:48:29]<anarcat>going out now, ciao!
[08:48:38]<ergonlogic>later
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