IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-10-29 (GMT)

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[11:38:33]<eft>so for Aegir 1.4, are we supposed to avoid the debian package per http://community.aegirproject.org/1.4
[11:40:41]<eft>or use the debian package but follow the release notes, specifically the known issues section per http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400
[11:40:50]<anarcat>latter
[11:42:15]<eft>anarcat: thanks - maybe the first sentence in Section 1. of the 1.4 release notes should be edited to be consistent with the release notes automatic installation instructions
[11:45:10]<anarcat>feel free to edit! :)
[11:45:24]<eft>will do
[11:56:59]<eft>anarcat: I have updated both pages but I would appreciate some QA
[11:57:57]<eft>couple of days ago you removed the Debian-specific instructions for the hotfix so I'm not sure what additional steps are required, if any, if you use the Debian package
[12:00:05]<anarcat>nothing i think
[12:00:13]<anarcat>well, there's the known issues part of course
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[12:01:54]<eft>so I should remove "If you choose to use the Debian package you may need to do some additional configuration" because the known issues apply to 1.3 and 1.4
[12:02:25]<anarcat>yeah
[12:04:17]<eft>done
[12:05:12]<anarcat>hum
[12:05:15]<anarcat>NOTE: The Automated Debian Packaging currently installs the 1.3 release. If you use the manual installation method instead, it may be more difficult to switch to the Debian packages for future releases.
[12:05:19]<anarcat>that is incorrect
[12:05:22]<anarcat>1.4 is fully uploaded now
[12:06:00]<anarcat>removing this
[12:06:08]<anarcat>thanks for noticing this
[12:06:12]<anarcat>running out
[12:06:47]<eft>no wonder I was confused (although I am easily confused) :p
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[13:36:33]<eft>does aegir store the mysql root password in plain text in server_localhost.alias.drushrc.php ?
[13:38:40]<mig5>have a look? :)
[13:38:47]<mig5>most likely yes. also in the db.
[13:44:15]<hefring>community => remote Aegir slave with many users ? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/remote-aegir-slave-many-users
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[15:32:34]<eft>mig5: was being somewhat rhetorical :)
[15:41:33]<mig5>have a look at /etc/mysql/debian.cnf too
[15:41:43]<mig5>zomg cleartext passwords :)
[15:44:36]<mig5>it would be nice to not have cleartext passwords in aegir, but we need to know how to create databases and users somehow
[15:44:44]<mig5>one day there'll be some clever mechanism I imagine
[15:47:01]<eft>I guess, but we should maybe warn users to use unique passwords for mysql root user
[15:47:35]<mig5>unique from what?
[15:47:59]<eft>from every other place I stick calzone123 :)
[15:48:10]<mig5>oh, you reuse passwords in various places?
[15:48:19]<mig5>i don't know if an FAQ will help you :)
[15:49:12]<mig5>'should i use the same password for my mysql root user as i do for everywhere else?' 'no'
[15:49:17]<mig5>i can probably squeeze that in somewhere
[15:49:23]<eft>you know I'm beyond help anyway
[16:00:34]<eft>mig5: was I supposed to be seeing cleartext passwords in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf ?
[16:00:49]<mig5>sure. paste them into the channel so we can see
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[16:02:37]<eft>have you been at the cheese fondue again?
[16:11:35]<eft>mig5: in the 1.4 release notes http://community.aegirproject.org/1.4#Known_issues
[16:12:04]<eft>it suggests "drush dl drush_make-6.x-2.3 --destination=~/.drush" to workaround drush make refusing to install
[16:13:03]<eft>but on my system using ~ for $HOME doesn't work
[16:14:20]<mig5>you have a strange system then
[16:14:23]<mig5>that's a unix standard
[16:14:37]<mig5>BSD, Linux and OS X should all understand that
[16:16:30]<eft>I'm not saying my system doesn't understand ~
[16:16:39]<eft>because I can cd ~
[16:16:43]<eft>etc.
[16:16:49]<mig5>ah
[16:16:54]<mig5>that's right: drush doesn't understand it
[16:17:00]<mig5>i recall a ticket in the drush queue
[16:17:03]<eft>whereas drush dl drush_make-6.x-2.3 --destination=$HOME/.drush
[16:17:08]<eft>does work
[16:17:10]<mig5>http://drupal.org/node/1123302
[16:17:11]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1123302 => support tilde expansion of home dir in --destination target => Drush, PM (dl, en, up ...), normal, active, 8 comments, 1 IRC mention
[16:17:21]<mig5>i wrote that ticket, hah
[16:18:13]<mig5>feel free to update the docs and take credit for spotting that
[16:19:10]<eft>maybe I'll just login to cao under your account so you get the props
[16:19:25]<mig5>sure. i use the same password for that as I do everywhere else
[16:19:38]<mig5>as per good practice
[16:21:11]<eft>enough migcursion for now, time to fire up jenkins again
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[19:33:48]<eft>mig5: it's a beautiful thing
[19:42:25]<mig5>i need that on a tshirt
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[20:33:31]<Guest8747>hi
[20:33:31]<hefring>hello
[20:35:53]<Guest8747>what your name
[20:36:03]<Guest8747>you there
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[20:39:18]<mig5>wow
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[01:54:18]<bbommarito>Hey guys. Popped in to say how nice Aegir is. I am getting my Drupal company up and running, and Aegir has been a godsend.
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[08:42:05]<hefring>Git => Merge in various performance fixes. => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/9810a1339b8381cc...
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