IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-11-03 (GMT)

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[11:00:11]<chaz>I've installed on RHEL5
[11:00:22]<chaz>it was easier than on Ubuntu
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[11:02:15]<Egyptian[Laptop]>chaz: did you use that script?
[11:03:00]<Egyptian[Laptop]>http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/hostmaster-automatic-install-c...
[11:03:06]<chaz>No, I did it all from the community.aegirprojects.org manual install directions.
[11:03:14]<Egyptian[Laptop]>chaz: ah ok
[11:03:24]<Egyptian[Laptop]>chaz: did you get bind sorry i meant named to work ?
[11:03:56]<chaz>I didn't set up the dns feature
[11:04:05]<Egyptian[Laptop]>well thats where i am at
[11:04:16]<chaz>we have all the *.domain.com A records set on our DNS Registrar
[11:04:30]<Egyptian[Laptop]>chaz: wildcard
[11:05:33]<chaz>yes, and let aegir's vhosts take care of the rest
[11:09:53]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]: I've got it running on RHEL6
[11:10:33]<theMusician>The RHEL6 notes are contributed by myself - I can help with most of it, though I too do not use the dns feature
[11:11:03]<Egyptian[Laptop]>theMusician: i wrote the aegir.sh script
[11:11:04]<theMusician>chaz: Have you explored the web clusters feature, that might support your idea of multiple front ends
[11:11:18]<Egyptian[Laptop]>i need helpw witih the dns feature
[11:11:22]<chaz>theMusician: no, I haven't yet, I completely forgot to check that out.
[11:11:23]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]: sweet
[11:11:56]<Egyptian[Laptop]>gah - i even have an ubuntu vm and that doesnt work out of the box!
[11:11:59]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]: What is the specific issue you are having with DNS?
[11:12:18]<Egyptian[Laptop]>theMusician: the setup? :)
[11:12:34]<theMusician>ah :)
[11:12:42]<Egyptian[Laptop]>no seriously - the ubuntu docs dont support chrooted dns
[11:13:10]<theMusician>I just enabled it on a VM, I'll see what happens
[11:13:29]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]: A redhat vm
[11:14:32]<theMusician>Ok, so, with it enabled what option are you using? dnsmasq, bind, or bind_slave?
[11:14:32]<Egyptian[Laptop]>cool
[11:16:18]<chaz>theMusician: Have you used the webcluster feature? or just mentioning it because you saw the feature?
[11:18:16]<theMusician>chaz: Just mentioning it. I am curious about it but don't have a use case yet. Once I get this SSL with SANs feature created I want to enable Varnish/Memcache. Seems like some info is documented on the Aegir site as well.
[11:20:33]<chaz>that sounds intense, cool
[11:20:53]<chaz>I can't find much/any docs on configuring webclusters
[11:20:57]<theMusician>chaz: Just required because of how SSL is setup where I work.
[11:21:31]<theMusician>chaz: I think it is one of those black arts - I am sure some sort of human sacrifice is involved
[11:22:31]<chaz>hehe, yeah. Funny how that works. Someone is bright enough to make the feature, but us mere mortals are left to fend for ourselves in working the magic.
[11:22:41]<chaz>though, that is better than not having the option.
[11:23:28]<chaz>I manually moved 12 of 48 sites from one server into Aegir today, I wish I could script it to be a little faster.
[11:24:23]<theMusician>chaz: Nice work. I find most sites go smoothly, and then one of them throws a fit, so I have stayed away from trying to script it.
[11:25:08]<chaz>it was slow because I had to rename dbs and user accounts from one server to the other.
[11:25:42]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]: What dns option are you using?
[11:25:58]<theMusician>chaz: I see.
[11:26:32]<chaz><cpanel_account_prefix_>_<dbname 8chars> to <dbname 16chars>
[11:27:07]<chaz>and creating the new db's and granting the newly named users, and editing settings.php, and then verify/import
[11:28:35]<chaz>but, its a move from a cPanel server to a cPanel-less server.. so its all worth the pain.
[11:28:41]<theMusician>chaz: That is a full days worth of work
[11:29:26]<chaz>yeah, a script would be nice- but writing it and getting it to work would take just as long
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[11:31:32]<bbommarito>chaz: So, I managed to actually get Aegir installed onto a remote database. Took a /ton/ of reading through various sources to find the magic commands.
[11:32:17]<Egyptian[Laptop]>theMusician: in aegir? or rhel/centos?
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[11:32:41]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]:In aegir
[11:33:10]<Guest1821>mwa any ladies here
[11:33:24]<Egyptian[Laptop]>theMusician: bind
[11:33:33]<Egyptian[Laptop]>./ignore Guest1821
[11:33:38]<Egyptian[Laptop]>oops }:)
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[11:34:05]<chaz>bbommarito:?!
[11:34:57]<bbommarito>I should write the whole process up, maybe see about getting it on the Aegir wiki.
[11:35:01]<Egyptian[Laptop]>anybody understand this ubuntu error? http://fpaste.org/Z946/
[11:35:23]<bbommarito>Egyptian[Laptop]: Ah, welcome to the hell of AppArmor
[11:35:23]<chaz>bbommarito: so, 2 physical machines, db on one and web+aegir on another?
[11:35:36]<bbommarito>chaz: Yep.
[11:35:48]<Egyptian[Laptop]>so how many ppl here use aegir on centos?
[11:36:15]<chaz>bbommarito: what is the gist of what you had to do?
[11:36:22]<bbommarito>Egyptian[Laptop]: Basically, AppArmor hashes the executables, and stores those hashes. If that executable changes, it won't run it.
[11:36:46]<theMusician>Egyptian[Laptop]: Ok, so app armor is denying the read permissions
[11:36:53]<bbommarito>chaz: Well, there is a set of command-line arguments that you pass to drush hostmaster-install to actually make it use a remote database (At least during install)
[11:37:18]<chaz>oh, you mean use a remote db for the whole process. thats cool
[11:37:44]<bbommarito>chaz: Yep, fresh install onto a remote DB. It would be easier if the aegir install was already there.
[11:37:56]<chaz>I wonder if that means aegir can be set up on a second server but just be a 'mirror' of the main aegir
[11:38:11]<bbommarito>chaz: For load balancing?
[11:38:15]<chaz>bbommarito: yes
[11:38:35]<bbommarito>chaz: That could be done, or you could do it outside aegir as well.
[11:39:02]<bbommarito>chaz: So setup a replicating mysql cluster, then (And I /believe/ this would work) tailor the config on each machine.
[11:39:18]<chaz>I want aegir on web1 and web2 to work off the same db but serve the sites data from their own respective drives
[11:39:30]<bbommarito>chaz: OH, you could do that.
[11:39:39]<chaz>mysql M-M would seem best.
[11:39:41]<chaz>hrm....
[11:39:55]<bbommarito>chaz: Just setup another webserver in Aegir.
[11:40:01]<michaels111>Anyone know if it is possible to install Aegir behind a proxy?
[11:40:38]<bbommarito>chaz: If you want true failover, then link the second aegir to the database, and backup the sites to the second server
[11:41:45]<chaz>bbommarito: re: another webserver- wouldn't that mean that sites are served seperately from the 2 servers?
[11:42:11]<bbommarito>chaz: In the first case, yes, in the second case you would just have duplicate sites on the two servers.
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[11:43:06]<bbommarito>I am sure Aegir probably has a way to do that natively but I haven't looked for those options
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[11:44:03]<bbommarito>As for that AppArmor issue: My suggestion, kill it off.
[11:44:06]<chaz>so.. web1(aegir+rsynced files to web2+MasterDB)<=>(MasterDB+rsynced files from web1+aegir)web2 ?
[11:44:31]<bbommarito>chaz: Yep, pretty much. Then load balance in front of them.
[11:44:32]<chaz>bbommarito: yeah, a 'cloned' aegir master control type option would be nice.
[11:44:50]<chaz>hrm...! that sounds like what I want.
[11:45:12]<bbommarito>chaz: As long as the aegir instances are reading the same database, it doesn't matter what created the sites.
[11:45:21]<chaz>right!
[11:45:47]<chaz>can I have the replicated DB and the rsynced files on the second server and then 'import' aegir ontop?
[11:46:17]<chaz>like install aegir and have it know there is already an existing aegir architecture.
[11:46:44]<chaz>bbommarito++
[11:47:18]<bbommarito>I'm thinking that if you installed aegir, and told it which database, and what db server, it /might/ be smart enough to know it is already installed. Otherwise, install it into another database, then alter the configs.
[11:47:37]<chaz>right
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[12:00:25]<bbommarito>Now, all I need is a Drupal job...hrmmm
[12:02:05]<chaz>bbommarito: It took almost 2 years of constant job searching to get the one I have now. :+(
[12:02:22]<chaz>I think there is something wrong with the economy
[12:02:50]<bbommarito>chaz: Well, I am working, and I can find a job in my area of expertise in a week...the problem is I am burning out of what I am doing.
[12:03:02]<chaz>Is a mysql M-M setup basically a M-S/S-M setup? where each server is a Master and also a slave to the other?
[12:03:12]<chaz>bbommarito: oh
[12:03:30]<bbommarito>chaz: So M-M is like that, yes.
[12:03:31]<Egyptian[Laptop]>Nov 2 21:02:52 ubuntu named[2007]: zone homelinux.org/IN: loading from master file /var/aegir/config/server_master/bind/zone.d/homelinux.org.zone failed: permission denied ????
[12:04:13]<chaz>bbommarito, so, I have a M/S setup now, can I just adjust that a little to get it M-M?
[12:04:15]<Egyptian[Laptop]>the ubuntu mysteriousness and unfamiliarity with it is making me feel dumbed down and stupid!!!grrr
[12:05:28]<chaz>Egyptian[Laptop]: can you see if aegir w/o the dns feature works for you?
[12:05:32]<bbommarito>chaz: Yep, should be able to. It's been a /long/ time since I dealt with MySQL M-M or M-S setups (I use Postgresql)
[12:05:33]<chaz>that would be a good first check.
[12:06:04]<chaz>bbommarito: do you have to make config changes before setting up aegir/drupal to use postgres over mysql?
[12:06:06]<bbommarito>Where /long/ time == 3 years
[12:06:07]<Egyptian[Laptop]>chaz: bind loads just spat the zone thats all
[12:06:33]<bbommarito>Egyptian[Laptop]: It has to be AppArmor, strip out AppArmor
[12:06:44]<chaz>I'm guessing the abstraction above that deals with whatever db engine you setup transparently?
[12:06:47]<bbommarito>AppArmor is not /really/ important on servers that are properly setup.
[12:07:40]<bbommarito>chaz: Yea, you will need to bring the database over, change port number...
[12:08:11]<chaz>I have the Slave running properly already
[12:08:40]<bbommarito>The sole reason AppArmor exists is to prevent someone loading a fudged executable onto a linux box, but it causes all kinds of pain.
[12:09:19]<chaz>I would just lock down ssh and such, and get rid of apparmour
[12:10:12]<bbommarito>It's because Aegir changes the bind file, then apparmor goes "OH, this file changed, it's possibly a hack attempt" and stops access to it.
[12:11:12]<chaz>or, can you just take the bind files out of AppArmours checklist?
[12:11:47]<bbommarito>chaz: Good question. I haven't worked with apparmor (I run Ubuntu locally, but Debian on servers which doesn't have apparmor) so I don't know.
[12:12:20]<chaz>bbommarito: Me either
[12:12:34]<bbommarito>I just, let's see, lock down ssh to only keybased login, allow only certain users, lock down with firewall everything else.
[12:12:53]<chaz>right
[12:13:06]<bbommarito>And in my current setup, the only way to access to the mysql port is from a local IP
[12:14:47]<bbommarito>Now, the firewall is IPTables, which I am generally not a huge fan of (Prefer hardware firewalls) but hey.
[12:16:12]<Egyptian[Laptop]>bbommarito: apparmor is finally dead but stilll not working
[12:16:46]<Egyptian[Laptop]>owner of the zone file is aegir.aegir .. is that how it is supposed to be here? aegir.named doest work btw
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[12:17:24]<chaz>Egyptian[Home]: not sure, but you might have to re'verify servers/hosts on aegir (just a thought)
[12:17:35]<bbommarito>Egyptian[Laptop]: Try something (If you are properly secured): Change the bind file to 777, see if you still get that error.
[12:18:11]<Egyptian[Laptop]>it IS 777
[12:18:21]<Egyptian[Laptop]>how do i check apparmor is dead ?
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[12:19:12]<chaz>apt-get remove :+)
[12:19:41]<Egyptian[Laptop]>chaz: what you mean they dint weave it into a million programs that will die without it?
[12:20:17]<bbommarito>Egyptian[Laptop]: No, it won't take a bunch of programs down with it.
[12:20:30]<Egyptian[Laptop]>so apt-get remove apparmor ?
[12:20:35]<chaz>apt is smart like that
[12:20:47]<bbommarito>Once you remove it, reboot. Yep, or my personal favorite: aptitude purge apparmor
[12:21:48]<Egyptian[Laptop]>grrr
[12:22:21]<bbommarito>sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor kill
[12:22:23]<bbommarito>sudo update-rc.d -f apparmor remove
[12:22:27]<bbommarito>Try that.
[12:22:38]<Egyptian[Laptop]>same thing after apt-get remove apparmor
[12:23:01]<bbommarito>Try this then: sudo aa-complain bind
[12:24:00]<bbommarito>aa-complain basically tells apparmor to merely complain, not stop a file from being accessed
[12:27:53]<Egyptian[Laptop]>The program 'aa-complain' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[12:29:23]<chaz>did you reboot 3 times?
[12:29:25]<chaz>:+)
[12:29:54]<chaz>aa-complain probably went out with apparmor, so maybe files are 'locked' somewhere
[12:29:58]<bbommarito>chaz: Okay, you either saw me say that in drupal-contrib, or you have seen that series...
[12:30:49]<chaz>bbommarito? I'm not in #dcontrib
[12:31:17]<bbommarito>chaz: Okay, than you have seen that series "Did you reboot it?" "Yes" "How many times?" "3 just like you always say"
[12:31:51]<chaz>hahaha
[12:32:04]<chaz>I have seen that one episode
[12:32:29]<chaz>years ago when I did IT consulting
[12:32:38]<chaz>it went around the office, the bosses loved it too.
[12:32:56]<bbommarito>I just noticed they have a new video up.
[12:33:28]<chaz>how long has it been since the last one?
[12:33:40]<bbommarito>Well, they have done 4.5 episodes of it.
[12:33:45]<bbommarito>It's been awhile.
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[12:35:33]<bbommarito>You know, I do believe it is time for some African music. My Swahili is getting quite rusty.
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[12:44:07]<bbommarito>I have only a month until I head to South Africa.
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[13:25:15]<chaz>sweet, I got mysql M-M set up.
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[14:06:54]<henro>hey
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[18:23:17]<hefring>Git => Merge branch 'dev/1318374-autoloader' into 6.x-2.x => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/23ba47b0613f4ff63...
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[23:13:35]<chaz>I read the rsync man page and the section about .cvsignore, can a .cvsignore file be placed in a directory that I want excluded from syncing. does that file have to include patterns within it? or is it is just the presence of the file the indicator?
[23:13:47]<chaz>woops, wrong channel, sorry
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[23:32:45]<chaz>I'm installing aegir on a system that has a replicated mysql db and rsynced /var/aegir dir. now importing the platform. fingers crossed!
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[23:40:02]<chaz>I think it worked!
[23:40:07]<chaz>aegir++
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[01:36:30]<AFD>hi guys
[01:36:43]<AFD>I'm trying to install aegir on Ubuntu 10.04 server
[01:37:18]<AFD>the guide I am following is http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian
[01:37:19]<chaz>AFD; grab Drush from d.o.
[01:37:26]<AFD>is that ok for the Ubuntu release?
[01:37:31]<chaz>yeah
[01:37:44]<AFD>great thanks :)
[01:37:45]<chaz>the drush version in the repo is old
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[01:38:05]<AFD>I've gotten the new drush using the ppa you mention in the walkthrough
[01:38:10]<AFD>will that be new enough?
[01:38:15]<anarcat>there should be a backport for 10.4
[01:38:28]<chaz>anarcat: is that available in a repo?
[01:38:42]<anarcat>chaz: yes, in ubuntu's
[01:38:49]<chaz>cool
[01:40:01]<AFD>I'm getting an error on the key when adding the aegir repo as per the walkthrough
[01:40:18]<anarcat>sorry gotta go
[01:40:22]<AFD>np
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[01:41:23]<adrinux>what's the error?
[01:41:39]<AFD>chaz: when I added the drush ppa I did- $ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys XXXXXXXX
[01:41:54]<AFD>the error is "public key not available"
[01:42:14]<AFD>and then when I try $ apt-key add key.asc
[01:42:19]<AFD>it doesn't work
[01:42:31]<AFD>"no key found" or "general error"
[01:43:01]<AFD>is there a key in that format I used for drush? that should work ok (I imagine this server is set up a little strange)
[01:44:08]<AFD>ah - I think it's because I wasn't using sudo!
[01:44:14]<AFD>that seems to have worked :D
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[01:46:46]<chaz>congrats
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[01:48:07]<AFD>I may have spoke to soon :S
[01:48:21]<AFD>so it prompted for the domain and the SQL password
[01:48:31]<AFD>but then failed on one of the later parts of the install
[01:48:48]<chaz>did you setup the mysql aegir account?
[01:49:21]<AFD>that might be it
[01:49:25]<AFD>just checking
[01:49:33]<AFD>user account or whole DB?
[01:49:48]<chaz>aegir db, aegir account, aegir_root account
[01:50:22]<AFD>the prompt that asked for the SQL root user password doesn't do it?
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[01:51:26]<chaz>its asking for your mysql root user password
[01:51:30]<AFD>yep
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[01:55:44]<chaz>right, it IS asking for it, do you have it?
[02:09:29]<AFD>I changed the root password again in phpmyadmin to ensure I had it right from the prompt
[02:10:16]<AFD>I think there is an issue with the aegir-provision though
[02:10:33]<AFD>that seems to be the error when trying the install now
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[02:12:28]<chaz>can you log into mysql at the command line as root@localhost?
[02:14:34]<AFD>I tried $ mysql root@localhost
[02:15:06]<AFD>it gave "access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'root@localhost'
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[02:28:32]<lostbit>hello
[02:28:32]<hefring>hello
[02:29:16]<lostbit>im a new user to aegir and set it up on a linux box. it's working well. i have a question though
[02:29:39]<chaz>just ask
[02:29:56]<lostbit>before i installed aegir i have apache running with some php applications, namely sugarcrm
[02:30:12]<lostbit>can i keep sugar running with aegir in the same host?
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[02:32:17]<chaz>lostbit, yes
[02:32:48]<chaz>aegir will create an apache conf file in /var/aegir/config.. that you link to /etc/apache/conf.d/aegir.conf
[02:33:07]<chaz>which should stand out of the way of ther existing webroots
[02:34:09]<lostbit>chaz, ok. so there will be only 1 apache running (in a single port).
[02:34:36]<chaz>yes
[02:34:45]<lostbit>before i start it, know of any documentation about it?
[02:34:54]<chaz>er, I guess you could split it up, but no real need to
[02:35:00]* lostbit nods
[02:35:18]<lostbit>i prefer this solution
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[02:36:13]<chaz>I don't think splitting it up is a good option
[02:36:59]<lostbit>yes, that is what i meant. i prefer your solution
[02:37:44]<lostbit>going to put my hands on it.
[02:38:06]<lostbit>thanks chaz
[02:38:24]<chaz>good luck
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[03:12:11]<lostbit>chaz, it worked, tks again
[03:12:53]<chaz>sweet
[03:13:02]<chaz>you got a platform installed too?
[03:13:43]<lostbit>yea, i got it working for about 6 months
[03:14:06]<lostbit>upgrade is next step
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[03:14:51]<chaz>oh, I thought you were installing it for the first time
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[03:15:31]<lostbit>no, it is my 1st installation though
[03:16:53]<lostbit>btw, i couldnt find how to check my aegir version on the hostmaster.
[03:17:48]<chaz>that's in the FAQ on the aegirprojects site
[03:17:56]<lostbit>ok
[03:18:10]<chaz>I haven't done it, I just saw the topic
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[03:19:15]<lostbit>i got it. tks
[03:21:09]<chaz>my master is connecting to its node, and the remote node according to the -node.log's
[03:21:22]<chaz>just no apache data from the remote(main web server)
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[04:11:14]<chaz>that was totally the wrong channel. :+)
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[05:15:01]<sk33lz>hey anarcat, for upgrading the sources list, do I just delete the original koumbit-stable.list and replace with the new aegir-stable.list?
[05:15:52]<eft_>sk33lz: you have to create a new key as well
[05:16:26]<eft_>http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/debian-archive-migrated-debian...
[05:16:26]<sk33lz>well that too
[05:17:47]<sk33lz>so basically anything in sources-list.d folder will run after the normal list I suppose?
[05:18:37]<sk33lz>eft_: thanks, I did read that page, but it doesn't specifically say to delete the old list file
[05:18:47]<sk33lz>just says to make a new list file
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[05:20:23]<sk33lz>actually I read both that page and this page, http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian
[05:20:45]<sk33lz>neither of which state to delete the koumbit-stable.list
[05:21:05]<sk33lz>may want to add that in to at least the upgrade instructions
[05:21:40]<sk33lz>I guessed it may be the case, but I don't like guessing when doing upgrades :D
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[05:22:46]<eft_>let us know how it goes :)
[05:23:38]<anarcat>sk33lz: yeah
[05:23:54]<chaz>I've moved the /var/aegir directory from one server to another, and have the database replicated M/M between them, the platforms and all sites verified, but they're not being served through apache.
[05:24:16]<chaz>Where is a good place to start diagnosing?
[05:24:41]<sk33lz>awesome thanks guys
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[05:24:47]<sk33lz>here goes :)
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[05:31:28]<sk33lz>hmm
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[05:39:06]<sk33lz>the sources should be the same for Ubuntu right?
[05:43:27]<eft_>After clean install of Aegir 1.5 I am seeing a lot of undefined index messages during server, platform and site verification - instances still get created properly though
[05:47:39]<sk33lz>originally the upgrade failed, but it told me to remove my drush_make directory and it seems to be going through the motions now
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[05:52:07]<metingul>Hello to everyone
[05:52:53]<metingul>I know, a lot of people asks everyday, I have a Debian server, I tried to install egir but I could not..
[05:53:17]<metingul>I have no experience about Linux/Debian Servers
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[05:53:45]<metingul>is anyone help me for installation?
[05:53:58]<metingul>or is there any commercial service?
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[05:56:21]<sk33lz>tada
[05:57:36]<eft_>metingul: I'm an amateur but will try to help
[05:57:38]<eft_>where is the debian server? on a virtual machine on your computer, on a VPS or what?
[05:57:53]<metingul>hello eft
[05:57:57]<sk33lz>I believe the upgrade was a success :D
[05:58:07]<chaz>congrats sk33lz
[05:58:12]<metingul>that is VPS
[05:58:17]<eft_>sk33lz: cool
[05:58:33]<sk33lz>anarcat ++, eft_ ++
[05:59:25]<eft_>metingul: and is it a fresh VPS or do you already have web server, mail server etc on it?
[06:00:06]<metingul>eft, yes that have Plesk panel so it has apache & mysql etc..
[06:00:20]<metingul>but I do not have any important data
[06:02:00]<eft_>I believe you may have problems getting Aegir on a box with Plesk
[06:02:01]<eft_>http://community.aegirproject.org/faq#cpanel
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[06:02:43]<metingul>The plesk is not imortant for me
[06:02:54]<chaz>We had to move off of a cPanel server so that we could use Aegir
[06:03:01]<chaz>it was well worth it.
[06:03:51]<metingul>http://drupal.org/project/provision_plesk there is a module, is it for using both plesk and Aegir?
[06:04:14]<eft_>don't know
[06:04:32]<metingul>however, most imprtant is Aegir
[06:05:15]<metingul>can you try to install if I provide the root details
[06:05:26]<eft_>fraid not
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[06:05:51]<eft_>can you recreate the VPS node?
[06:06:29]<metingul>as Fresh , without plesk or any other software?
[06:07:13]<eft_>basic Debian - headless (without GUI front end) etc
[06:08:32]<metingul>If there is no option, I request from my datacenter, so the guys can reinstall the VPS
[06:09:38]<eft_>dont' know which VPS provider you are using but I use linode.com like many others who use Aegir
[06:09:52]<chaz>linode for the win
[06:10:24]<metingul>I have to use VPS which is located in our country (Turkey)
[06:10:36]<metingul>so that is local provider
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[06:12:11]<metingul>I think I should install Debian on my local PC, and try to install Aegir on that..
[06:12:30]<metingul>if I success, I can try to on VPS
[06:12:37]<eft_>that's a good idea - with VirtualBox or something like that
[06:12:45]<metingul>yeap
[06:13:13]<metingul>do you have any suggestion about Debian version?
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[06:15:11]<eft_>I'm using 6 (Squeeze) - lastest stable version
[06:15:41]<metingul>thank you for all your help.. I am downloading right now
[06:17:19]<eft_>np - Aegir installation is a lot easier than it was when I started working with it
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[06:19:31]<eft_>just make sure you read the installation notes Aegir on Debian
[06:19:33]<eft_>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400
[06:19:41]<eft_>esp steps 1 - 3
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[06:35:16]<redshift5>Does anyone know is Aegir is able to be installed behind a proxy server?
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[06:38:16]<joestewart>redshift5: not sure what you're asking but does this discussion help? http://drupal.org/node/1047174
[06:38:19]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1047174 => Reverse proxy support => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, needs work, 21 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[06:42:27]<redshift5>Looks like I may be able to achieve this using IPTables
[06:43:21]<redshift5>I have setup the $http_proxy environment variable with the correct proxy server, drush dl and wget are able to work through the proxy
[06:43:35]<redshift5>but for some reason Aegir install stops at unable to get Drupal version
[06:51:04]<joestewart>yeah, I think you're asking about access through a proxy and that post was about using a reverse-proxy.
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[07:01:14]<redshift5>yeah, technically it should use the $http_proxy env variable but for some reason it doesn't pick it up
[07:01:44]<redshift5>I may have to use either IPTables to forward the traffic or use a transparent proxy instead ... hmm
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[07:55:14]<chaz>how can I have munin served from munin.company.com and aegir serving <vhost>.company.com?
[07:56:19]<chaz>oh ubuntu. should leave /etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf and create a sites-available conf?
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[08:23:25]<eft_>chaz: take a look at /var/aegir/config/apache.conf
[08:23:48]<eft_>and the Include directive that points to /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/pre.d
[08:24:04]<chaz>oh, the mysterious pre.d!
[08:24:18]<eft_>that I believe is where you should place your non-Aegir vhost files
[08:24:40]<chaz>ah
[08:25:02]<chaz>I assume you could put them in /etc/apache/conf.d also?
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[08:28:12]<eft_>well, /etc/apache/conf.d has a symbolic link to /var/aegir/config/apache.conf which is why I think you should place your vhosts under that path
[08:30:02]<chaz>right, but for other programs- to keep thing cleaner, it would seem to make sense to keep their vhost/configs out of aegir, incase aegir is removed.
[08:30:18]<chaz>I will investigate!
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[09:18:56]<Met4physica>whats the recipe for 1 civicrm codebase, database, configuration and many drupal sites?
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[09:35:20]<eft_>anarcat: is c.a.o. down?
[09:35:27]<anarcat>yeah, working on it
[09:36:09]<anarcat>ddos
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[09:36:37]<eft_>b*stards
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[09:41:45]<anarcat>yeah
[09:41:47]<anarcat>them
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[09:52:47]<anarcat>eft_: should be back
[09:53:44]<eft_>looking good - thanks!
[09:54:25]<theMusician>How does Aegir determine which group to assign for apache? Like on the settings.php file in a site, the output of a ls -l might look like aegir:apache
[09:57:09]<halcyonCorsair>darthsteven: ping
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[10:10:12]<theMusician>I can see in provision.drush.inc that a user is retrieved by group id. Currently, when I create a new site, the settings file is owned by both the aegir user and group which causes issues. It needs instead to be owned by aegir:apache.
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[10:24:29]<Egyptian[Laptop]>evening
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[10:25:03]<Egyptian[Laptop]>anybody here got bind working on ubuntu? or even better on centos ?
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