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[19:44:40]<plaap>every time i verify a site my custom themes get disabled (even deleted from system table) and i have to enable them again
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[19:44:50]<plaap>anyone has an idea what to try?
[19:45:05]<plaap>aegir 1.4 and platform is drupal 7.8
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[23:38:41]<Guest6372>aloooo people
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[23:39:45]<chaz>morning
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[23:43:57]<Guest6372>eny 1 from london
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[23:45:06]<Guest6372>?
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[00:56:48]<chaz>just migrated 10 sites into aegir, woot!
[00:57:18]<metin>If I install the Aegir , I will migrate :s
[00:57:47]<metin>chaz, did you install the Aegir by yourself?
[00:58:00]<chaz>yeah
[00:58:09]<chaz>this is on 2 RHEL boxen
[00:58:21]<metin>I have VPS which is installed Debian
[00:58:41]<metin>It had Plesk too, but Plesk does not work currently, however I do not need Plesk
[00:58:56]<chaz>yeah, its not too hard on deb/ubuntu either
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[00:59:05]<metin>Can you help me for installation of Aegir?
[00:59:17]<chaz>there is a backport for Drush which you'll need to start with.
[00:59:29]<metin>really I do not understand anything about unix systems
[00:59:57]<chaz>does anyone really? :+)
[00:59:58]<chaz>heh
[01:00:13]<metin>is I provide the root details, can you crash the system for me :D
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[01:00:26]<chaz>nope
[01:00:33]<chaz>but I would be more than happy to help you crash it
[01:00:39]<metin>:)
[01:00:47]<chaz>what have you done so far?
[01:00:53]<metin>I do not think the server works fine for now
[01:01:06]<chaz>can you log in as root?
[01:01:19]<metin>I type ecery command to SSH window
[01:01:40]<metin>sometomes it asked are you sure, and I replied of course not but yes
[01:01:53]<chaz>well, that means its working good enough.
[01:02:09]<chaz>if you can log in as root, there is always hope!
[01:02:23]<metin>how?
[01:02:32]<metin>I can provide root password
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[01:03:04]<chaz>what username do you use to log in?
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[01:03:50]<metin>root
[01:04:03]<chaz>ok, great
[01:04:40]<chaz>I'm guessing you're new to debian/ubuntu?
[01:09:28]<bgm>does anyone know what those mysql codes in sql dumps mean? ex: -> i thought 50017 refered to a mysql version?
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[01:15:03]<chaz>has anyone used site aliases?
[01:15:35]<chaz>I need <site>.company.com and www.<site>.com to work, the first is working and the DNS for the second is setup correctly
[01:15:46]<chaz>but I am not sure how to get it working for the second
[01:16:26]<bgm>chaz: it's just an alias in the vhost
[01:17:31]<chaz>Is that the same mechanism that "site alias" settings setup?
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[01:19:20]<chaz>ah, I think it is!
[01:19:22]<chaz>sweet
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[01:27:01]<chaz>I am tickled pink by how easy aegir makes this
[01:27:18]<chaz>no more futzing with dozens of vhosts, or bind files
[01:28:15]<bgm>chaz: you're using the DNS feature of aegir?
[01:28:39]<bgm>(I have never tested it, just curious)
[01:30:24]<chaz>not the dns feature, just the 'site aliases' feature
[01:30:27]<chaz>it was stupid easy
[01:30:49]<chaz>on the old server we were running named (through cPanel) and it a pain
[01:31:15]<chaz>with site alias, it adds another field to the site setting form and you add the alias you want
[01:31:27]<bgm>hehe, yeah, and hosting providers tend to restrict their cpanel so much it is un-usable
[01:31:42]<chaz>so we have <clientsite>.ourserver.com
[01:32:22]<bgm>aegir could also configure your DNS in bind, but I think it's a bit beta
[01:32:26]<chaz>and we want to serve www.<clientsite>.com from our server, so its an A record for the clients
[01:32:36]<chaz>yeah, no need since this worked so well!
[01:32:44]<bgm>i often have DNS wildcards to avoid fiddling with that, e.g. *.foo.com -> points to my aegir server
[01:33:26]<bgm>it's still recommended to use the official production name as the canonical name for when the site goes live
[01:35:45]<bgm>anarcat: ping
[01:36:24]<chaz>bgm: I would do the wildcard, but the old server is still serving half the sites. :+)
[01:36:31]<chaz>It would be so much easier though
[01:36:50]<bgm>well, in fact, i have *.aegir.foo.com :)
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[01:37:53]<chaz>ah
[01:37:56]<chaz>intersting
[01:38:14]<chaz>so, your subsites are bob.aegir.foo.com
[01:38:17]<chaz>ah...
[01:39:19]<anarcat>bgm: pong
[01:39:22]<bgm>yep, and particularly interesting when the client has their own vserver, they can clone sites themselves for doing tests
[01:39:52]<bgm>anarcat: i have a bug in provision which is fixed in git 6.x-1.x since september, but the fix is not in the debian packages
[01:39:57]<bgm>anarcat: any idea what could cause this?
[01:40:11]<chaz>bgm, thats cool!
[01:40:20]<chaz>the sites thing, not the bug.
[01:40:22]<bgm>it's in provision/db/mysql/mysql_service.inc, line 117, the sed on the DEFINER
[01:40:38]<anarcat>bgm: that is very strange!
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[01:41:11]<bgm>this was the patch, https://drupal.org/node/1283926 and was committed to 6.x and 7.x by Steven
[01:41:34]<bgm>i.e. the \s* at the end of the 50017 DEFINER regexp
[01:41:47]<bgm>it still seems to be in the latest head for 6.x-1.x
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[02:02:45]<bgm>anarcat: any idea on the regression? it's probably something silly
[02:02:57]<anarcat>bgm: no, i am rather rushed
[02:03:05]<bgm>ok, np
[02:03:11]<anarcat>bgm: i will look in 30min
[02:03:42]<bgm>we can check next week, i patched on the client locally
[02:03:50]<bgm>but might affect multi-lingual civicrm's in aegir.k.n
[02:04:09]<anarcat>i see
[02:04:14]<anarcat>this seems like a critical issue
[02:04:35]<bgm>yeah, i guess it could affect other code, if it's the case
[02:05:23]<anarcat>bgm: anarcat@marcos:provision$ git diff 6.x-1.5 --stat | grep -v debian
[02:05:28]<anarcat>bgm: il n'y a pas de diff
[02:06:49]<anarcat>bgm: ie. provision 1.5 est bien dans le package debian
[02:07:11]<bgm>hrm
[02:07:43]<bgm>je vais vérifier les différents aegir pour voir
[02:07:54]<bgm>j'étais sur un vps installé dernièrement, mais il y a p-e eu un bork
[02:09:12]<anarcat>bgm: j'ai verifié aussi dans le package, 1.5-2 a la patch
[02:10:39]<bgm>uhm, ok, désolé, le vps roulait 1.4 :/
[02:11:36]<chaz>roulait? je ne sais pas le mot?
[02:12:33]<chaz>comme, rouler?
[02:13:17]<anarcat>ha!
[02:13:29]<bgm>chaz: oui :)
[02:13:40]<chaz>bon!
[02:14:27]<bgm>"powered by"
[02:15:01]<anarcat>run
[02:15:06]<chaz>oh
[02:15:19]<chaz>je comprend
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[02:17:38]<chaz>question: I have aegir now with multiple sites for clients, and OpenAtrium as platform/site too.
[02:17:56]<chaz>Is there a way to get the users of the sites into OA to be members?
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[02:18:15]<chaz>I'm guessing no
[02:18:26]<bgm>members of what?
[02:18:35]<chaz>at least not without a one way sync from the sites into OA
[02:18:45]<chaz>members of the OA user db
[02:20:17]<bgm>ok, you mean you use OA to manage the communication with your users?
[02:20:30]<bgm>so when you create a new site, it will create them a OA drupal user?
[02:20:57]<chaz>yes
[02:21:16]<bgm>I guess a clean solution would be to use LDAP, but you could also hack a provision submodule
[02:21:30]<chaz>We want to move off basecamp for internal-only ticketing, and move to OA to allow users of each site to login and report issues
[02:22:05]<chaz>hrm, its a thinker!
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[02:22:49]<chaz>that might be a project for later. I'd like to modify the Sites overview page to provide some more info
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[03:10:13]<Met4physica>has anyone used multi site civicrm with aegir?
[03:12:15]<bgm>Met4physica: yep
[03:12:34]<Met4physica>bgm: one civicrm codebase/database and many drupal sites in sites/all? that works ok?
[03:12:37]<bgm>Met4physica: i maintain the provision_civicrm module (with sfyn and other contributors)
[03:12:59]<bgm>yep
[03:13:08]<bgm>but you need the provision_civicrm submodule
[03:13:16]<bgm>https://drupal.org/project/provision_civicrm
[03:13:43]<bgm>ah, take the 6.x-1.x branch though
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[03:13:53]<Met4physica>ok - so i know this is redundant, but i want 8 sites using the same civi database on one platform
[03:14:02]<Met4physica>so all my newsletter signups go to one civi db, for civimail
[03:14:47]<bgm>ohh
[03:14:54]<bgm>you mean the multi-site feature of civi?
[03:14:58]<bgm>not drupal multi-site
[03:15:14]<bgm>hmm, i have never tested that, not sure how it works..
[03:15:25]<bgm>does it use civi "domains"?
[03:16:01]<bgm>if you want to submit a patch to support that in provision_civicrm i'd be happy to get that in
[03:16:17]<bgm>although since we have no frontend for now, might not be obvious how to determine that this is a multi-site install
[03:16:26]<bgm>but it could just be to set a variable somewhere
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[03:37:59]<ergonlogic>chaz: you may be interested in https://github.com/developmentseed/osso_provider and related modules
[03:40:21]<chaz>interesting!
[03:40:23]<ergonlogic>also syncing users into OA can lead to problems, unless it's bi-directional, as group managers can create users themselves via the 'ucreate' module
[03:41:23]<ergonlogic>anarcat: hi, I've got aegir-up working
[03:42:24]<ergonlogic>anarcat: but I need somewhere to host ~500MB virtualbox image, but I don't want it to in c.a.o's files/... any suggestions?
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[04:01:10]<Met4physica>bgm: yes, the multi-site feature of civicrm
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[04:34:20]<sfyn>Met4physica: what does the multi-site feature of civicrm do exactly? Does it allow the same civicrm codebase to provide services to more than one site?
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[04:43:49]<Met4physica>sfyn: it allows many drupal sites to share one civicrm database and codebase in sites/all
[04:44:03]<Met4physica>so i could have sites/www.1.com , sites/www.2.com ,etc all sharing a civi db
[04:44:26]<Met4physica>then, i would be able to have membership and newsletter signups on all sites go to one db
[04:44:57]<sfyn>ah
[04:45:17]<Met4physica>so...i am not sure how that fits into the aegir model..except just making one platform do it
[04:45:22]<sfyn>provision_civicrm assumes a different database for each site
[04:45:53]<sfyn>because right now the site and civi share a database
[04:46:03]<chaz>Is it possible to have to aegir frontends use the same DB? instead of having web1 and web2 serving the same sites?
[04:46:42]<Met4physica>sfyn: that's cool - i would like to use that model too for clients..but for me i have a bunch of sites i want collecting data into one place...civicrm doesn't sync or anything
[04:47:11]<sfyn>Met4physica: civi does however have a full rest api - you could use that to push data from other sites onto civi
[04:47:45]<Met4physica>sfyn: i'm not adept enough currently to pull that off... although something that made that easy would be invaluable
[04:47:47]<sfyn>Met4physica: although a shared database seems a more logicial thing - eventually, we will want to make the database handling for provision_civicrm more flexible, anyway
[04:48:14]<sfyn>Met4physica: by we I mean koumbit, but I think that fits with bgm's plans for the module too
[04:48:29]<sfyn>!pi cpt/fact bill bill bill
[04:49:10]<Met4physica>sfyn: that'd be really cool - if i could roll out a site on a platform and have it share master civicrm db
[04:49:49]<sfyn>whoops wrong channel
[04:50:25]<sfyn>Met4physica: I agree it would be cool - right now I am mostly trying to stabilize provision_civicrm migrations and make it work better with provisionacl
[04:50:56]<sfyn>bgm: speaking of which, have you had a chance to review my provisonacl patch for civicrm.settings.php? We are using it in production over here
[04:51:13]<chaz>Can I modify the 2ne hostmaster settings.php to point to the db with the same db creds as the first server?
[04:51:43]<chaz>2nd
[04:52:08]<sfyn>chaz: no
[04:52:19]<sfyn>chaz: hostmaster kidnaps the settings.php file
[04:52:46]<sfyn>chaz: you can however use site aliases and domain sensitive themes to accomplish similar things
[04:52:47]<chaz>right, and abstracts the creds to another file
[04:52:54]<chaz>oh?
[04:53:09]<sfyn>chaz: or a local.settings.php file to add an additional db to the database array that you can then invoke
[04:53:41]<sfyn>There may be a way of hacking drushrc.php to allow you to use the same database, but I am not sure how, and I am pretty sure it would be risky given the way aegir manages and provisions sites
[04:54:11]<sfyn>chaz: check out the subdomain and domain access modules on drupal.org - aliases are a feature of the site node type in hostmaster
[04:54:27]<chaz>I have site aliases running
[04:55:08]<chaz>I have 2 servers with M-M mysql between them, and want to have them serve identical/failoverable content
[04:55:21]<chaz>I thought aegir could
[04:55:40]<chaz>'attach' to the db from either server
[04:55:43]<chaz>but maybe not
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[04:57:21]<chaz>as it is, I have one platform dir that web1 and web2 think are their own
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[05:08:09]<chaz>I can't find any docs on the Web Cluster feature, does anyone know about it?
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[05:20:34]<chaz>eww, I enabled web cluster, tried adding the other server and now when I select it it gives 'no data'
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[05:53:49]<chaz>hrm... I wonder if there is a way with two identical servers to do what I want. maybe I'm not thinking about this the right way.
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[05:59:11]<hefring>Git => Issue #1332290 by Steven Jones: Fixed Upgrade version is wrong. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/b0758278df42c07f4...
[06:01:30]<chaz>Here's a thought, could the installation of Aegir point its 'server ip' to a loadbalancer IP which in turn points to web1 or web2. that way the server's IP would be the same for each installation of aegir?
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[06:08:50]<noecc>chaz: http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0#Multi-server_improvements
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[06:13:58]<chaz>noecc: thank you for the reading
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[06:22:58]<bgm>sfyn: fwiw, separating drupal/civi db is a bit pita, imho, does not make sense except for bery big sites
[06:23:20]<bgm>civi multisite is a tangeante, but whole other issue
[06:36:22]<chaz>is there a drush command to reverify servers?
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[06:39:11]<darthsteven>chaz: drush@server_NAME provision-verify
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[06:39:25]<darthsteven>drush @server_NAME provision-verify
[06:40:09]<chaz>ah, I was just trying to get syntax for provision-verify
[06:40:29]<chaz>hrm, still 'no data'
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[06:43:47]<chaz>when I select localhost in servers I get 'no data' and [notice] child pid 29572 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) in the httpd error log
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[06:53:17]<eft_>I am seeing a lot of "Undefined index: old_short_name hosting_package.module:390" when building sites and platforms on 1.5
[06:53:49]<eft_>anyone else seeing these or suggest a dependency I may be missing?
[06:54:06]<darthsteven>eft_: no I am too, looking into it
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[06:54:27]<eft_>at least I am not alone :) tx
[06:54:48]<darthsteven>I think I broked something :(
[06:55:00]<darthsteven>not that it's a problem I don't think
[06:55:37]<eft_>yeah, packages seem to be listing in the front end and sites and platforms get build ok
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[07:46:35]<ergonlogic>iirc, old_short_name was a hack to allow for renaming an install profile...
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[07:50:30]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: it's just a nasty notice, Aegir has quite a few of them...
[07:52:13]<chaz>when I 'verify' a server is that running: drush @<server> provision-verify?
[07:54:15]<hefring>Git => Issue #1330018 by Dane Powell: Fixed Can't compare platforms ('table doesn't exist... => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/4e3cb8d8a4b0f1db...
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[07:56:05]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: right, but it's not surprising that it's undefined in normal ops
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[08:11:54]<chaz>oh, I changed /etc/hosts, but thats weird
[08:12:16]<chaz>it couldn't ssh in out out if the hostname was pointed to the external ip
[08:12:56]<q0rban>apotek: it's supposed to be unique, per mshnaydman's script
[08:13:10]<q0rban>whoa, weird
[08:13:18]<q0rban>sorry, irc client fail
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[08:22:59]<chaz>Is there a foreseable problem if I change my 'server' IP to the loadbalancer's external ip? the LB points all traffic to the server.
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[08:54:13]<hefring>Git => Issue #1330984 by Steven Jones: Fixed Long list of notices on site verify. => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/099e53ed83d55bd9...
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[09:24:10]<mill>can anybody tell me how aegir determines which GROUP should own settings.php in a given site directory?
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