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[19:17:46]<mig5>kapow http://drupaldownunder.org/session/aegir-skynet-drupal
[19:17:55]<mig5>i finally submitted (literally)
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[20:14:02]<darthsteven>mig5: awesome stuff!
[20:17:41]<mig5>i wanted to rename the talk so it wasn't the same as all the others: trying to avoid putting off seasoned users
[20:17:49]<mig5>who might think 'it's the same old talk i've seen 100 times'
[20:18:22]<darthsteven>I like it
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[20:29:26]<mig5>darthsteven: I want to include cafuego's excellent article on integrating PAM and FTP to authenticate chrooted Aegir sites based on the hosting_client table http://cafuego.net/2011/11/08/integrating-aegir-linux-and-ftp , on the community docs
[20:29:33]<mig5>struggling to decide where to put it
[20:29:58]<mig5>either under Extending Aegir or 'Contributed modules' but it isn't really a module (or else we could rename that page 'Contributed Functionality'
[20:30:02]<mig5>)
[20:30:19]<mig5>probably Extending Aegir is better.. but it's not really *extending*... it's more 'integrating'
[20:31:33]<mig5>i once built almost the same thing using ProFTPd and dodged PAM entirely since ProFTPd has MySQL support :) but never documented it :(
[20:31:36]<darthsteven>hmmm
[20:31:55]<darthsteven>Extending Aegir is the better place for it I think
[20:32:00]<mig5>yeah
[20:32:11]<darthsteven>or you could another section
[20:32:17]<darthsteven>:)
[20:32:30]<mig5>spose i could
[20:35:54]<mig5>i think that's the way to go infact
[20:41:14]<mig5>done
[20:41:23]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/content/developing/integrating-aegir
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[21:03:02]<mig5>goodness me we have a nice community site don't we
[21:03:10]<mig5>sometimes i forget what a difference that made after moving from gdo
[21:03:47]<mig5>and i remember spending 2 paid working days doing no real work, but writing all the base documentation to get it going :)
[21:03:50]<mig5>come a long way
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[21:11:28]<algar>hi guys, i need some professional help :)
[21:11:56]<algar>anyone got a minute?
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[02:27:54]<anarcat>ergonlogic / darthsteven / mig5: i have yet again reshuffled the "now what page" - the more i think about it, the more all the subpages there actually belong to the user guide
[02:28:42]<ergonlogic>anarcat: agreed
[02:30:06]<anarcat>anyways
[02:30:10]<anarcat>i have renamed the page now: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/administrator/post-install-con...
[02:30:14]<anarcat>i am not sure anymore
[02:30:17]<anarcat>the user manual is for users
[02:30:23]<anarcat>while the stuff in post-install is still for admins
[02:30:27]<anarcat>we should keep that distinction
[02:31:03]<ergonlogic>well, I guess what we expect from users
[02:31:22]<ergonlogic>oops, skipped the "it depends"
[02:31:31]<anarcat>yeah
[02:31:35]<anarcat>we should clarify this in the manual
[02:32:37]<anarcat>i have also found it surprisingly difficult to find the install manual
[02:32:46]<anarcat>i missed the "install" link on the frontpage and went straight to the handbook
[02:32:57]<anarcat>then i had to remember, eventually, it was in the administrator manual
[02:33:04]<anarcat>i first looked in the aegir introduction
[02:33:13]<anarcat>maybe we should link from there too
[02:33:31]<anarcat>also, the "use it" link on the frontpage points the "/using" which is a barren wasteland :)
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[02:33:36]<anarcat>(no offense)
[02:33:39]<anarcat>but it's pretty empty
[02:34:17]<ergonlogic>k
[02:34:18]<anarcat>anyways, gotta go here
[02:34:42]<ergonlogic>I think I may add a 'troubleshooting' section to the admin manual
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[02:35:10]<ergonlogic>and maybe an 'advanced usage' section too
[02:35:33]<ergonlogic>to distinguish from general usage, that goes in the "user manual"
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[02:39:56]<ergonlogic>it would be nice to be able to transclude stuff...
[02:43:28]<ergonlogic>hmm... so far only a sandbox project: http://drupal.org/sandbox/daven/1200808
[02:43:34]<ergonlogic>suggestions welcoms
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[03:43:22]<chaz>If I put an .htaccess file with a rewrite rule into a site's directory, should it work?
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[03:57:33]<chaz>is there something that overrides or prevents .htaccess files from being processed in a site directory?
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[04:03:51]<chaz>When are the vhost files modified? if I put the redirect rule into the site's vhost conf it works, but I read this: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/70 and I am wondering if a module doesn't inject info into the vhost it might be overwritten.
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[04:25:18]<mathieuhelie>Hi guys, I need to redirect a client site to its www. subdomain even though its hosted by aegir under its example.com domain. Can I just drop an extra vhost file into the pre.d directory for this domain or will the duplicate vhost mess up apache?
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[04:27:54]<ergonlogic>mathieuhelie: you should be able to add an alias/redirect right on the site node
[04:28:19]<anarcat>ergonlogic: congratulations, drush_make is now in debian unstable
[04:28:51]<ergonlogic>mathieuhelie: you may have to activate the "site_aliasing" feature if it isn't already
[04:28:55]<ergonlogic>anarcat: cool!
[04:29:10]<mathieuhelie>ergonlogic: actually the problem is that I want to redirect to one of the site aliases, not the main domain
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[04:31:29]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so eventually it'll show up at http://packages.debian.org/sid/allpackages?
[04:31:42]<anarcat>yes
[04:32:59]<ergonlogic>mathieuhelie: how about renaming the site then, and adding example.com as a redirect?
[04:33:38]<mathieuhelie>I have a lot of hard-coded links in the content, might be risky
[04:33:58]<mathieuhelie>I guess it's the sensible way to do it
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[04:34:31]<ergonlogic>the links should be redirected too, I believe
[04:34:48]<Met4physica>omega8cc: is there any reason my install would hang on, We need to install wget, axel, aptitude, netcat & git first, please wait...
[04:34:55]<Met4physica>been 15 mins
[04:35:02]<ergonlogic>in the sense that they'll still resolve
[04:35:20]<ergonlogic>anarcat: nice! I look forward to seeing it
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[04:40:53]<omega8cc>Met4physica: no idea, check ps axf to see what is it doing, you can always monitor what is happening under the hood by monitoring the install log while Barracuda is running: tail -f /opt/tmp/aegir-install.log
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[07:36:54]<Met4physica>omega8cc: tried again, its listing a set of packages that need to install - tailing the log...doesnt change...hmm
[07:38:23]<Met4physica>INFO: Installing lsb-release and dnsutils now, please wait... ---
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[07:55:20]* ergonlogic just submitted a proposal to provide training at DrupalCon Denver (along with anarcat & darthsteven)
[07:55:38]<ergonlogic>I'm looking forward to it being even better that the one in London
[08:00:17]<Met4physica>my sources.list was lame and didnt have main... wtf... :(
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[08:09:34]<mig5>ergonlogic: awesome!
[08:10:11]<ergonlogic>mig5: :)
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[08:28:39]<chaz>Is the alias for a site created when a platform is verified?
[08:29:15]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: I had better book a plane ticket to Denver then!
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[08:55:33]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: I guess so :)
[08:55:44]<ergonlogic>though we haven't been accepted yet...
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[08:58:58]<eft_>mig5: http://drupaldownunder.org/sponsors you are so corporate ;)
[08:59:47]<mig5>you're a stalker
[09:00:04]<eft_>I like to see what the cool kids are doing
[09:01:16]<eft_>I like your logo - can't decide if it's supposed to be a reference to Mad Eye Moody or a bikini top
[09:07:53]<mig5>more like a thermal detonator
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[09:14:07]<eft_>mig5: is the hefring archive searchable?
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[09:15:27]<mig5>dunno, tried it?
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[09:16:18]<eft_>using google site:hefring.mig5.net - no joy
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[09:16:57]<mig5>i can see a search block on http://hefring.mig5.net :P
[09:17:32]<eft_>yeah me too - but no joy
[09:17:50]<mig5>i guess not then
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[09:33:10]<mig5>someone's playing about with jenkins?
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[09:38:05]<darthsteven>yup
[09:38:14]<darthsteven>Just added static code analysis: http://ci.aegirproject.org/view/Code%20reviews/
[09:39:06]<darthsteven>running coder on provision and hostmaster to get nice graphs of adding/removing code style issues
[09:39:55]<darthsteven>there are lots of issues!
[09:39:56]<darthsteven>now
[09:40:01]<darthsteven>good night all!
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