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[11:01:40]<AquaticDisorder>Im building from a git repo f's up on translations as they're not available
[11:01:41]<chaz>AquaticDisorder: can't you just 'drush dl atrium'?
[11:01:47]<AquaticDisorder>got it now though looks like omega8cc has set some up for download
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[11:04:42]<AquaticDisorder>I cant write modules yet so am trying to work to keep track of overides with git as best I can
[11:06:07]<AquaticDisorder>basically I'm using the forking instructions for drupal core and applying it to atrium
[11:08:43]<AquaticDisorder>kinda naughty but atriums a bit in limbo at the moment, only really available as pkg dload, just exploring really, will contribute my features back if they are any good
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[11:23:21]<AquaticDisorder>scratch limbo ^^ 'up in the air', rather, omega8cc has own atrium and tweaks it with the bash scripts, man this shit's so cool, I love it ha!
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[19:41:28]<darthsteven>hefring: tell mig5 I'm almost done with http://drupal.org/node/1341468 so let me know when you'd like me to walk you through doing a release, including debian packages :)
[19:41:29]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1341468 => Get Jenkins to do releases => Hostmaster (Aegir), Jenkins, normal, needs work, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[19:41:30]<hefring>darthsteven: I'll pass that on when mig5 is around.
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[20:57:36]<mig5>hey darthsteven
[20:57:36]<hefring>mig5: 1 hour 16 min ago <darthsteven> tell mig5 I'm almost done with http://drupal.org/node/1341468 so let me know when you'd like me to walk you through doing a release, including debian packages :)
[20:58:30]<mig5>darthsteven: when were you hoping to release? i'm away as of the next 24 hours for about 3 days
[20:59:00]<mig5>so either right now, or weekend / next week :)
[20:59:14]<mig5>or the same time as scrum this morning, but tomorrow (my time)
[21:00:26]<darthsteven>ah, we'll leave it then
[21:00:32]<darthsteven>we can get you to do 1.7 :)
[21:00:38]<mig5>sure
[21:02:01]<mig5>the other thing i wanted to do was reintroduce fortnightly or monthly news, which i am happy to do.. via community site + the announce mailing list
[21:02:08]<darthsteven>in theory when I've got Jenkins all set up it'll be painfully simple
[21:02:08]<mig5>back like the old days eg this era http://groups.drupal.org/hostmaster2/discussion?page=0%2C20
[21:02:16]<darthsteven>and basically all done through Jenkins
[21:02:36]<mig5>just basically sum up the scrums, talk about new features we're introducing etc, general insight into the development space
[21:02:56]<mig5>re: jenkins releases: sounds great, i don't know why we never thought of automating releases before :)
[21:03:30]<darthsteven>regular news sounds like a great idea
[21:04:23]<mig5>cool
[21:04:38]<mig5>trying to think of other ways to 'contribute' in classic lame-arse mig5 style :)
[21:04:44]<mig5>and avoid fucking up the codebase
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[23:28:12]<hefring>community => old_short_name as an array ? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/oldshortname-array
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[03:07:23]<LunkRat>Basic usage question: if I have a handful of sites on the same platform, and I want to upgrade them all to yesterday's Views 6.x-2.16, do I just clone the platform, add the new views, and migrate all sites to the new platform?
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[03:28:47]<anarcat>ergonlogic: you're flapping
[03:29:28]<ergonlogic>exit
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[03:29:57]<ergonlogic>anarcat: my routers been kinda flaky
[03:31:12]<anarcat>ergonlogic: maybe you want to run a bouncer or something :)
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[03:32:54]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yeah... I had on shell.k.n, but then my config got blown away, and I haven't (yet) bothered to figure it all out again
[03:36:12]<ergonlogic>anarcat: do you recommend/use Irssi-proxy?
[03:36:28]<anarcat>ergonlogic: notsure/yes
[03:39:45]<anarcat>ergonlogic: Hhttps://wiki.koumbit.net/Irssi#anarcat_technique
[03:39:49]<anarcat>ergonlogic: https://wiki.koumbit.net/Irssi#anarcat_technique
[03:40:08]<ergonlogic>anarcat: thanks
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[03:51:15]* spyd waves to anarcat and ergonlogic
[03:51:54]<spyd>ergonlogic: it was great to meet you this weekend :)
[03:52:11]<ergonlogic>spyd: same here :)
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[04:00:46]<mvc>spyd: dereck?
[04:04:09]<mvc>gah, s/dereck/derek/
[04:07:33]<anarcat>heey spyd wassup
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[04:09:07]<yareckon>hi guys, is there an easy way to deploy sites out of aegir to a remote server without aegir? or would I need aegir on both sides for that to work?
[04:12:16]<yareckon>am trying to strategize about depoying a site locally developed under aegir to a shared host
[04:12:31]<spyd>mvc: yes, indeed- hello to you too! :)
[04:13:09]<spyd>anarcat: doin ok- reinvigorated about aegir and dns, after chatting with ergonlogic at dcto this weekend
[04:13:12]<yareckon>they have webserver and a db server boxes. I have installed drush on the webserver account, and wanted to know if anyone knows off the top of their head whether aegir can deploy to this type of environment
[04:13:24]<anarcat>spyd: yeah, i heard of that :)
[04:13:32]<anarcat>spyd: i'd love to see you back in the project
[04:13:38]<anarcat>spyd: are you still into working in dns?
[04:13:42]* spyd too :P
[04:13:49]<yareckon>BTW anarcat congrats again on becoming a DD
[04:13:54]<anarcat>yareckon: thanks :)
[04:14:34]<spyd>anarcat: yeah, absolutely- we're working towards a setup where we have powerdns as our internal/canonical dns repository, and it pushes it's data out to public-facing bind instances
[04:14:40]<anarcat>spyd: nice
[04:14:51]<spyd>so i'd love to work toward getting aegir provisioning those powerdns tables
[04:15:01]<anarcat>spyd: cool
[04:15:10]<anarcat>spyd: i tried to summarize the current state of affairs for DNS here: https://drupal.org/node/922280
[04:15:29]<anarcat>but basically, the zonefile editor is gone from the frontend :/
[04:15:33]<anarcat>so that needs to be resurrected
[04:15:35]<spyd>actually, truth be told, i'll most likely end up facilitating a project where someone else does that work.. since i seem to have so much else on my plate, but still want to make this happen
[04:15:53]<yareckon>hmmm I imagine that aegir is unhappy when it can restart apache... which would be the case on this host
[04:15:54]<anarcat>i understand
[04:15:54]<spyd>anarcat: thanks, i was hoping there'd be something like that
[04:15:56]<anarcat>and that is fine :)
[04:16:03]<anarcat>i am also doing a lot of that :)
[04:16:05]<yareckon>maybe raw drush aliases would be better
[04:16:09]<anarcat>i gotta go, glad to see you back here
[04:16:25]<yareckon>^can't restart
[04:16:27]<spyd>anarcat: cool, see ya later :)
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[05:16:51]<stieglitz>I set up a hostmaster platform with a D6 platform on a VPS.net server. I then created a D7 commerce_kickstart platform and added a kickstart site I directed the DNS settings from GoDaddy to the VPS.net nameserver. I am wondering what I have missed as it is not working.
[05:18:19]<stieglitz>obviously I am a noob and this has really pushed the thresholds of my knowledge base :-\
[05:19:53]<yareckon>can you log into aegir stieglitz?
[05:20:03]<stieglitz>yes
[05:20:13]<yareckon>ok, and you can create other platforms?
[05:20:22]<stieglitz>all platforms and sites have verified
[05:20:28]<stieglitz>yes
[05:20:38]<yareckon>ok, and you can reach everything except the ecommerce site
[05:20:52]<stieglitz>so I have the D6 hostmaster platform
[05:21:24]<stieglitz>and a D7 platform that is verified with a D7 site that has verified but I can not access it
[05:21:47]<yareckon>ok, is this D7 site the ecommerce site, or another one?
[05:22:07]<stieglitz>well we are talking through the hostmaster front end right?
[05:22:39]<yareckon>Basically, I am trying to figure out whether you are having problems with aegir, or with your ecommerce platform
[05:22:55]<yareckon>have you used aegir to install basic drupal yet?
[05:23:18]<yareckon>just download d7 and verify it as a platform and try to create a site for instance?
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[05:23:36]<yareckon>or it may be that your ecommerce site just hasn't updated dns yet
[05:23:45]<yareckon>what happens when you try to go to the ecommerce site?
[05:24:17]<stieglitz>gotcha I am too :-/ When i log into aegir i am not able to access the d6 site either when i click on the goto link
[05:24:53]<yareckon>ok, what happens?
[05:25:04]<yareckon>"not able to access" is not detailed enough
[05:25:09]<stieglitz>when i click on the goto ecommerce it gives me Oops! Google Chrome could not find xxx
[05:25:25]<yareckon>ok, probably a dns issue then..
[05:25:26]<stieglitz>both sites
[05:25:57]<stieglitz>hey i gotta run down the hall and use the bathroom sorry I'll brb
[05:26:18]<stieglitz>if youre gone I'll understand ;-)
[05:26:22]<yareckon>lol, most people just stop typing for a while :)
[05:30:10]<stieglitz>ha well youre helping ME ;-)
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[05:33:45]<stieglitz>yarekon: under view install I do have a lot of Undefined index: languages hosting_package.instance.inc:41
[05:34:43]<stieglitz>and Undefined index: languages hosting_package.instance.inc:41
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[05:40:32]<yareckon>ok, are you sure that you are reaching the right server when you try to hit front end url of the ecommerce site?
[05:40:58]<yareckon>do you know how to edit your hosts file to override DNS issues?
[05:41:16]<yareckon>(on your local web browsing machine)
[05:42:24]<yareckon>anyway, that is how you can check to see if it is a dns issue
[05:42:45]<yareckon>if it's not a dns issue, then you need to look into those errors that you are getting doing a site install
[05:43:07]<yareckon>and if a vanilla drupal installs ok, but not your ecommerce thing, then the ecommerce thing is at fault
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[05:43:21]<yareckon>I have to go, so that's the rundown in brief ! :)
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[05:44:15]<ergonlogic>this is not lining up to be a very productive afternoon...
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[06:07:48]<stieglitz>thanks yareckon:
[06:12:32]<stieglitz>and btw no I do not know how to edit my hostfile to override DNS but I will investigate.
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[06:27:42]<chaz>Is there a way to programmatically add aliases to sites?
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[07:16:13]<ergonlogic>chaz: I'd guess you need to add the alias(es) to the node, then call hosting_alias_insert($node) (http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--alias--host...)
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[07:17:08]<ergonlogic>I've never done it though, so that may not work and/or there may be an easier or better way
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[07:44:07]<wipe_out>Hi, anyone around?? Need some Aegir help.. :)
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[08:15:34]<mig5>darthsteven: ping
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[08:21:31]<wipe_out>Seems very quiet in here tonight.. :)
[08:24:09]<mig5>wipe_out: what's up
[08:24:17]<mig5>and it's 8:30am here ;)
[08:24:44]<wipe_out>Just popped in for a Aegir chat.. :)
[08:25:05]<wipe_out>8:30am.. You are on the other side of the world.. :)
[08:26:36]<mig5>yep
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[08:30:16]<wipe_out>By the way mig5, loved your "Drupal deployments & workflows with version control, drush_make, and Aegir" article.. Definitely helpped me in the right direction.. Still drowning a little at the moment.. :)
[08:31:30]<mig5>it's getting a bit dated after 2 years, but the methodology remains the same
[08:32:27]<wipe_out>Yes, exactly.. Just solidified the concept I guess.. Now I have to get my head around drush make files..
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[08:50:45]<mig5>chaz: yes you can programatically add aliases: still around?
[08:58:51]<mig5>chaz: see 'Programatically add aliases' in my article http://mig5.net/node/346
[08:59:00]<wipe_out>mig5: just installed aegir for the first time as per the instructions.. Does apache have to be setup with mod_php? or can apache be configured with php-cgi or fcgid without breaking Aegir?
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[09:00:57]<mig5>I don't think we officially support PHP-CGI/FastCGI at this stage: if you installed using the Debian packages, it will probably break if you do future upgrades etc, as I think it depends on libapache2-mod-php5 in apt
[09:01:17]<mig5>if you installed manually, you might get around it: but there's nothing coded into aegir to set CGI parameters in the vhosts etc
[09:01:39]<mig5>you could optionally look at the Barracuda/Octopus stuff by omega8cc, since it uses Nginx and therefore presumably PHP-CGI or PHP-FPM or fcgid etc
[09:03:00]<wipe_out>Hmmm.. Ok.. Just find mod_php a bit of a memory pig on my lower end VPS..
[09:04:27]<mig5>the Barracuda stuff is probably a good bet for you then. or perhaps http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual/manual-install-web-c... but without the cluster element
[09:04:39]<mig5>you can pass --http_service_type=nginx as a parameter to drush hostmaster-install , I believe
[09:04:52]<mig5>(i've not ever tried aegir under nginx myself)
[09:05:04]<stieglitz>hi mig5: Im still having some trouble accessing the different aegir sites and i am trying to determine if it is a dns issue. I know this is a noob question but when i do a drush dl drupal-7.x as the aegir user do I need to do something like this: drush site-install standard --account-name=admin --account-pass=admin --db- or does the standard drupal install process occur by navigating to the...
[09:05:05]<stieglitz>...domain?
[09:06:09]<wipe_out>Thanks, Ill have a look.. Was also wanting to try and run it along side my other sites on the same server and apache is configured with a combination of php-cgi and fcgid (with suexec) depending in the sites requirements..
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[09:08:42]<mig5>whoa
[09:08:49]<mig5>stieglitz: no you don't do any drush site-install stuff..
[09:08:51]<stieglitz>sorry
[09:09:02]<stieglitz>ok then i did it right
[09:09:10]<mig5>you go to /node/add/site in the aegir frontend and add your site there
[09:09:17]<stieglitz>yeah did that
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[09:09:22]<mig5>choose Standard profile, which will select the Drupal 7 platform you've set up (presuming you added the platform node too)
[09:09:27]<mig5>and it installs the site for you
[09:10:01]<stieglitz>yeah. thats what i was hoping :-\
[09:10:06]<mig5>no running through /install.php or anything, after you add the site node, aegir takes care of the installation, creating the db, the apache vhost config etc
[09:10:18]<mig5>what's the domain and what's the expected IP that it should resolve to?
[09:11:13]<stieglitz>cool. got it. well the domain I have aegir is micro-brew-review.com ( dont ask ) ;-)
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[09:11:28]<stieglitz>it is a vps.net ip
[09:12:00]<stieglitz>the ip is 174.127.125.146
[09:12:07]<stieglitz>all that works fine
[09:12:12]<mig5>something seems wrong with your name-based virtualhosts
[09:12:16]<mig5>as I get your aegir instance in my browser
[09:12:56]<mig5>the Host: header in the HTTP request, should have matched the 'ServerName' value in the site's vhost in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/micro-brew-review.com
[09:13:04]<mig5>oh
[09:13:18]<mig5>wait: have you defined your aegir system's URL as http://micro-brew-review.com
[09:13:28]<mig5>that'll probably be why..
[09:13:30]<stieglitz>yes
[09:13:41]<wipe_out>Thnaks for the help mig5.. I'm off..
[09:13:45]<mig5>shouuldn't have been possible to add a new site with the same URL
[09:14:40]<stieglitz>one was www and I added the alias afterward....perhaps that screwed things up?
[09:14:45]<mig5>ahh
[09:14:57]<mig5>yeah you hit a known bug in latest aegir, that i fixed about 2 days ago
[09:15:04]<stieglitz>ha
[09:15:05]<mig5>that shouldn't have allowed you to do that (and won't, in future releaess)
[09:15:27]<mig5>nonetheless, you have a separate problem now: your aegir instance can't have the same URL as the site you want to host *on* that aegir instance
[09:15:38]<stieglitz>but if i understand it that is only one of the issues
[09:15:51]<mig5>so your main aegir instance (in fact, your server's hostname itself) should have a different name, perhaps http://aegir.micro-brew-review.com
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[09:16:06]<mig5>and it is not so easy to modify this post-installation I don't think..
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[09:16:14]<mig5>as it affects MySQL grants and all sorts of stuff
[09:16:16]<stieglitz>ok well practically speaking i dont want to so I should be able to delete the site
[09:16:46]<stieglitz>ahh that suxs
[09:16:47]<mig5>well moreso, you might want to think about reinstalling aegir after setting 'aegir.micro-brew-review.com' in your /etc/hostname on your server and adding that to DNS
[09:17:34]<mig5>generally isn't a good idea to name your server the same name as the site you want to host on it, especially if you want to host *other* sites on it in future
[09:18:03]<stieglitz>Yeah my buddy set it up and I think that was accidental
[09:18:44]<stieglitz>so initially it was going to be the provisioning domain ...just because it was not in use
[09:19:27]<stieglitz>so I guess i am done for now. You've been a big help
[09:20:25]<mig5>np. FQDNs and hostnames are confusing if you're not used to managing servers :)
[09:20:29]<mig5>and hard to explain properly too
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[09:37:04]<stieglitz>later all
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[09:52:56]<mig5>ergonlogic: how did the drupalcamp toronto session go? i'm writing an aegir 'newsletter' and wanted to mention it
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