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| [02:23:19] | <drapergeek1> | I have a new aegir insatll that seems to function perfectly on everything but ssl |
| [02:23:24] | <drapergeek1> | I have followed the ssl setup guide |
| [02:24:02] | <drapergeek1> | but after I enable ssl on the site, the browser is simply given an ssl error(not invalid certificate) |
| [02:24:13] | <drapergeek1> | the apache logs show nothing other than bad request-URI |
| [02:24:21] | <drapergeek1> | anyone have any ideas? |
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| [02:34:40] | <drapergeek1> | It seems that by default, aegir was assigning 127.0.0.1:443 instead of the server ip or *:443. Should i file a bug report for thsi? |
| [02:34:42] | <drapergeek1> | this* |
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| [06:20:41] | <chaz> | I'm trying to understand the 'clustering' feature of aegir. Does it mean that one aegir install can manage multiple web and db servers as a cluster of servers. Not that a site can be configured to be served its data from one or more clustered(replicated) db servers, or web servers? |
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| [06:59:18] | <mig5> | scrum time in 1 minute i believe? |
| [06:59:25] | <mig5> | darthsteven: anarcat: ergonlogic: |
| [06:59:45] | <anarcat> | oh yeah! |
| [07:00:04] | <mig5> | ok! |
| [07:00:10] | <mig5> | scrum is now |
| [07:00:17] | <anarcat> | hi |
| [07:00:21] | <mig5> | i haven't done much this week at all :/ |
| [07:00:29] | * anarcat neither |
| [07:00:30] | <mig5> | and i just woke up so I can't remember if I did :) |
| [07:00:58] | <mig5> | well! if darthsteven doesn't show up, that's a very quick scrum! haha |
| [07:01:26] | <mig5> | I think ergonlogic worked on some new taxonomy/tagging/categorisation of discussion threads in the community site |
| [07:01:29] | <mig5> | i am yet to test it out |
| [07:01:40] | <mig5> | tomorrow i'll write my fortnightly aegir newsletter - do you think it should be monthly instead? |
| [07:02:04] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [07:02:05] | <anarcat> | makes sense |
| [07:02:17] | <anarcat> | i was ill for two days last week, kinda knocked me off |
| [07:02:24] | <mig5> | the big news in it will be that 1.6 was released. speaking of that - we got a couple of good feedback on that release, and no big bug reports, so it must have been one of our most stable in a while |
| [07:02:30] | <mig5> | sorry to hear you were ill |
| [07:02:30] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [07:02:47] | <anarcat> | i did some debian work on my side, and the more i think about it, the more i wish to package hostmaster properly... |
| [07:02:58] | <anarcat> | i may work on that soon-ish |
| [07:03:04] | <mig5> | properly in what sense? |
| [07:03:10] | <mig5> | via debian official repos? |
| [07:03:15] | <anarcat> | properly as in, with the php files actually in the package |
| [07:03:16] | <anarcat> | yes |
| [07:03:32] | <mig5> | from memory we had some catch22 there |
| [07:03:35] | <anarcat> | but that's further down the road |
| [07:03:42] | <anarcat> | next step for me is ldap work |
| [07:03:43] | <mig5> | oh you mean with core inside it |
| [07:03:50] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [07:03:53] | <mig5> | awesome |
| [07:04:04] | <anarcat> | basically, this would mean that we would drun drush_make during the build, not during the install |
| [07:06:08] | <mig5> | right right |
| [07:06:16] | <anarcat> | that's about it for me |
| [07:06:21] | <mig5> | thanks |
| [07:06:23] | <anarcat> | let's wait another 10 to see if our friends show up |
| [07:06:27] | <mig5> | yep |
| [07:06:44] | <anarcat> | oh! ergonlogic wasn't voiced! |
| [07:06:50] | <mig5> | hahaha |
| [07:06:51] | <ergonlogic> | aha |
| [07:06:56] | <mig5> | geeeez us tyrants |
| [07:07:03] | <ergonlogic> | Hi all, sorry I'm late |
| [07:07:11] | <mig5> | hi! |
| [07:07:11] | <hefring> | privet |
| [07:07:20] | <anarcat> | hum |
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| [07:07:41] | <mig5> | oh my site, and hefring, are now managed by Jenkins :) whaaaaat? |
| [07:07:52] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: you do not seem to be identified with nickserv, which is why you are not voiced |
| [07:07:52] | <ergonlogic> | so, yeah I added a simpler tagging mechanism on c.a.o |
| [07:08:33] | <ergonlogic> | I normally am... |
| [07:08:34] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, you can now tag without having to edit the node |
| [07:08:47] | <ergonlogic> | and we can filter discussions by keyword |
| [07:09:17] | <mig5> | sweet *me goes and filters out all mention of centos/redhat* :) |
| [07:09:38] | <ergonlogic> | this was mostly in response to a suggestion by AquaticDisorder to have per-OS discussions |
| [07:09:46] | <ergonlogic> | exactly :) |
| [07:10:06] | <mig5> | hmm i search for 'centos' and i get no results |
| [07:10:13] | <mig5> | same with 'debian' |
| [07:10:25] | <ergonlogic> | are there any nodes tagged as such? |
| [07:10:30] | <mig5> | oh duh |
| [07:10:32] | <mig5> | probably not! :) |
| [07:10:49] | <ergonlogic> | it's using the 'keywords' vocabulary |
| [07:10:55] | <mig5> | does it only search discussion threads? |
| [07:10:56] | <mig5> | gotcha |
| [07:11:00] | <ergonlogic> | which previously hadn;t been available for discussions |
| [07:11:04] | <mig5> | so it's probably that we have few tagged nodes |
| [07:11:04] | <mig5> | yep |
| [07:11:10] | <ergonlogic> | for now, just discussions |
| [07:11:17] | <mig5> | sorry still trying to wake up :) |
| [07:11:22] | <ergonlogic> | :) |
| [07:12:00] | <anarcat> | hey this reminds me - the twitter block seems to be broken |
| [07:12:07] | <mig5> | yeah was looking at that the other day |
| [07:12:08] | <anarcat> | last post is from may or something |
| [07:12:09] | <mig5> | i can't work it out |
| [07:12:24] | <mig5> | was looking at the view, but i think it's the feeds system itself... the feed URL is correct |
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| [07:12:32] | <ergonlogic> | and I'm finally re-focusing on getting openatria.com running as a reference implemnetation of the Aegir-SaaS stack stuff I'd been working on |
| [07:12:33] | <mig5> | i think it's just not pulling in new items properly |
| [07:12:50] | <anarcat> | that sounds like a reasonable assumption |
| [07:12:54] | <ergonlogic> | and expect an alpha release of aegir-up this week |
| [07:13:17] | <ergonlogic> | I can take a look at that |
| [07:14:34] | <ergonlogic> | re being identified... I switched to using a proxy, could that exaplain it? |
| [07:14:36] | <mig5> | maybe something for after the scrum: i noticed we can't install aegir on a non-standard port. eg port 8080 (for vagrant direct 8080 to 8080 mapping) |
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| [07:14:57] | <mig5> | we totally ignore --http_port in hostmaster-install. not sure why, it *ought* to be trivial surely? (famous last words) |
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| [07:16:42] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: re vagrant, at one point I had aegir set up with dns, and then just added my vagrantbox as a dns server in resolv.conf |
| [07:18:32] | <mig5> | ah so you got arund the login links being port 80 etc by resolving them back to the vagrant machine itself, and the port 80 then NAT to the 8080 on the vagrant box too |
| [07:18:49] | <mig5> | i stil lreckon we should support non-standard port on fresh install: what if I want to put varnish in front of my aegir box for example |
| [07:18:54] | <mig5> | sure i can fiddle about after the install but yeah |
| [07:19:01] | <mig5> | anyway - i think we are done for scrum |
| [07:19:04] | <ergonlogic> | agreed |
| [07:19:07] | <mig5> | darthsteven appears MIA today |
| [07:19:13] | <mig5> | thanks all |
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| [07:23:32] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: I think you're attributing to me more DNS mojo than I've got |
| [07:23:39] | <chaz> | Is there an online overview of the cluster feature? I am looking on c.a.o. and only see a brief mention wrt/ nginx setup |
| [07:24:21] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: I added the virtualbox aegir instance to the DNS servers on my laptop |
| [07:24:21] | <mig5> | chaz: it's not very well supported or documented. the cluster feature essentially rsyncs the data out to multiple remote web servers |
| [07:25:02] | <chaz> | what about replicated db support? |
| [07:25:12] | <mig5> | chaz: it's the same as standard multiserver except that it does an rsync for each remote server. you define a new server as a 'cluster' consisting of two other existing servers in aegir, and you then attach a platform to that 'cluster' server. |
| [07:25:17] | <mig5> | chaz: doesn't do any db replication |
| [07:25:30] | <mig5> | you'd need to set that up yourself, and you don't need cluster feature for that |
| [07:25:52] | <chaz> | so, the $db_url setting is managed outside of aegir? |
| [07:26:10] | <mig5> | no, it just uses whatever db server you've attached the site to in the aegir instance |
| [07:26:21] | <chaz> | oh ok. |
| [07:26:24] | <mig5> | but you could set up your own replication to hang off that and aegir doesn't need to know about it |
| [07:26:33] | <chaz> | right |
| [07:26:34] | <mig5> | to be concise: the cluster feature is really about *web* clusters |
| [07:28:38] | <chaz> | and aegir doesn't get installed on the other web servers, aegir just rsyncs /var/aegir/? essentially? |
| [07:30:08] | <mig5> | yeah in aegir multiserver, the 'remote' servers are 'headless' apache/nginx servers |
| [07:30:16] | <mig5> | with no aegir on them |
| [07:30:26] | <mig5> | and the 'master' aegir site rsyncs the platform + site and vhost stuff out |
| [07:30:52] | <chaz> | should the 'web2' start clean then? |
| [07:31:00] | <mig5> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30 |
| [07:31:22] | <chaz> | ah, remote!, thanks. |
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| [08:02:09] | <drapergeek1> | I have a server with only a single IP and multiple hostnames and sites, is there anyway to tell aegir to simply use *:443 for my site configurations instead of IP based? |
| [08:07:21] | <bgm> | drapergeek1: is it generating VirtualHosts such as <VirtualHost [your-ip]:443> ? does it use the same IP all the time? |
| [08:08:11] | <bgm> | you might want to try enabling SNI (https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHostsWithSNI) - not supported by IE7 on XP though |
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| [08:12:23] | <mvc> | bgm: it's not supported by any version of IE on XP (limitation of the tcp/ip stack) |
| [08:13:04] | <mvc> | you need vista *and* IE 8 or later |
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| [08:13:36] | <bgm> | sigh, i wish MS made is less hard for people to upgrade.. |
| [08:13:55] | <bgm> | assigning an IP for each SSL cert is such a waste.. |
| [08:14:12] | <bgm> | </rant> :) |
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| [08:33:59] | <HaloFX> | I have recently begun having trouble cloning or migrating sites to remote servers. The errors relate to Rules, Entity and Context. Disabling the modules before migrating avoids the problem, but that often means disabling several other dependent modules, such as all the Commerce modules. Anyone else seeing this, or know of a fix? |
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| [09:14:03] | <gusaus> | are there examples of this in the Aegir world? http://community.aegirproject.org/handbook/strategy/saas-business-model-... |
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| [09:23:18] | <mig5> | gusaus: very soon I believe. earlier this morning ergonlogic said he's working on a prototype |
| [09:23:32] | <mig5> | he'll be able to tell you more :) |
| [09:24:13] | <gusaus> | very interesting stuff |
| [09:24:44] | <gusaus> | mig5: probably some good new material for a few dojo sessions :) |
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| [09:26:04] | <mig5> | yes! |
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| [09:26:14] | <mig5> | have a watch of his business models talk at DC london too |
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| [09:27:28] | <gusaus> | already have - think that's where I found that link ^^ |
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