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[17:51:15]<gusaus>hi - can aegir run drupal-org.make files?
[17:51:15]<hefring>gusaus: 6 days 17 hours ago <ergonlogic> tell gusaus I'd be happy to talk about http://community.aegirproject.org/handbook/strategy/saas-business-model-... at your convenience
[17:52:07]<gusaus>whoa - a message
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[19:44:15]<ramlev>Hey, i have a drupal 7.x platform, and when adding a new site on this platform i want to choose which layout to install the site with, have created a custom hosting module, but want the selections from a hook from the platform, how?
[19:46:53]<ramlev>Hey, i have a drupal 7.x platform, and when adding a new site on this platform i want to choose which layout to install the site with, have created a custom hosting module, but want the selections from a hook from the platform, how?
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[19:53:08]<ramlev>is it possible when setting up a new 'site' to decide which modules to install, have a few frontend modules, which have a custom hook, which i want to select between from the hostmaster, but the site is d7, and aegir d6
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[22:59:48]<siliconmeadow>I have very very nearly got aegir installed in Arch linux
[23:02:44]<siliconmeadow>but near the end, Drush is unable to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database, so it rolls back
[23:21:51]<siliconmeadow>here is the debug output: http://drupalbin.com/20409
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[00:24:54]<gerardroos>I am migrating sites to a new platform with D7.10 and updated module. A few site keep processing in the Aegir UI. I don' see any drush process running. Been spinning for over half an hour. Is there a drush command to stop migration?
[00:25:16]<gerardroos>Status: Processing
[00:25:16]<gerardroos>Started: Tue, 12/06/2011 - 14:37
[00:25:16]<gerardroos>Processing time: 41 min 40 sec
[00:25:16]<gerardroos>Log message
[00:25:17]<gerardroos>Task starts processing
[00:25:17]<gerardroos>Running: /usr/bin/php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php --php='/usr/bin/php' @smot-terschelling.nl provision-migrate '@platform_Drupal71020111206' --backend 2>&1
[00:26:02]<gerardroos>Sorry, next time I will use pastebin
[00:41:39]<noecc>gerardroos: Search for 'stuck task' on the community site. That may help you.
[00:41:54]<gerardroos>Thanks
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[01:39:24]<siliconmeadow>is there a way to step though and pause execution of php when running from the commandline?
[01:40:21]<siliconmeadow>I'm doing a drush hostmaster-install, and it would be useful for me to stop it prior to where I know it breaks so I can check settings.php, and drushrc.php files (for starters)
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[01:56:17]<hefring>community => So close to having Aegir running on Arch Linux => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/so-close-having-aegir-running-...
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[03:33:38]<siliconmeadow>hefring: I posted that after asking for help here. I hope that's ok with you?
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[03:34:56]<bgm>siliconmeadow: hefring is a bot
[03:35:04]<siliconmeadow>ah, nothing like talking to a bot!
[03:35:10]<bgm>:)
[03:35:21]<siliconmeadow>bgm, you got there just as I'd discovered
[03:36:02]<bgm>about pausing the execution, i don't think it's really possible, unless maybe you can try sending a kill -STOP signal to the php process
[03:36:08]<bgm>but sounds tricky :)
[03:36:46]<siliconmeadow>I think I might have an apache config issue
[03:36:56]<bgm>(i guess you could add a long sleep() in the PHP function)
[03:37:07]<bgm>did you try --debug ?
[03:37:40]<siliconmeadow>that's the output i posted in the pastebin - w/ --debug :-)
[03:37:56]<bgm>ah ok, didn't see the link :)
[03:38:12]<siliconmeadow>oh, sorry
[03:38:42]<siliconmeadow>yeah it was the second time today I thought I'd ask the question, lemme give you the link
[03:38:52]<siliconmeadow>http://drupalbin.com/20409
[03:40:23]<bgm>you're using "tonga" as the FQDN?
[03:40:27]<siliconmeadow>but I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the way I've got apache configured
[03:40:33]<siliconmeadow>yes
[03:40:33]<bgm>does it resolve locally? (an entry in your /etc/hosts ?)
[03:40:39]<siliconmeadow>yes
[03:40:57]<bgm>if you do "apachectl -S", is there the vhost for tonga?
[03:41:23]<bgm>ah, uhm, it's deleting it on fail, i guess
[03:41:40]<bgm>hum
[03:42:42]<siliconmeadow>extra|⇒ apachectl -S
[03:43:05]<siliconmeadow>[Tue Dec 06 16:43:03 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[03:43:13]<bgm>anyway drush itself does not use the vhost, only the drushrc files, but sometimes it can give hints
[03:43:14]<siliconmeadow>VirtualHost configuration:
[03:43:20]<siliconmeadow>Syntax OK
[03:43:22]<bgm>but in this case, it's rolling back, so there shouldn't be vhosts
[03:43:57]<bgm>siliconmeadow: what's the OS ?
[03:45:06]<siliconmeadow>the reason I think i've got a config problem with apache here is that when i put http://tonga/ in the browser at this very moment (no aegir), it's showing me the default (localhost) phpinfo() page I set up.
[03:45:12]<siliconmeadow>Arch linux
[03:45:40]<bgm>yeah, that's normal, because after the failed installation, aegir cleaned up it's configs
[03:45:46]<bgm>so you are landing on the default vhost
[03:46:16]<siliconmeadow>but there is no vhost named tonga
[03:46:25]<bgm>yes.. that's normal
[03:46:30]<siliconmeadow>really?
[03:46:37]<bgm>aegir will create it when it is installed
[03:47:04]<siliconmeadow>create it? Where?
[03:47:11]<bgm>unfortunately i don't really know what might be the cause, it's hard to debug with just the output, and i have to rotate back to work
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[03:47:25]<bgm>aegir stores its vhosts in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhosts
[03:47:26]<siliconmeadow>it tried to create it, but then rolled back
[03:47:38]<bgm>yeah, but it's not the problem anyway
[03:47:44]<siliconmeadow>0 vhosts there now
[03:47:47]<bgm>the problem is in the drushrc files i guess, it can't connect
[03:50:55]<siliconmeadow>the problem is that apache is misconfigured, because although it's copied all the files in the right places, drush is trying to bootstrap with the URL, and it goes to the default page (which is the index.php with the phpinfo stuff I created earlier) rather than dishing the /var/aegir/hostmaster/sites/tonga which would bootstrap it. You've helped me in my thinking about where it's gone wrong. I need to fix apache+vhost_mod first
[03:51:04]<siliconmeadow>and maybe alias_mod
[03:51:34]<bgm>i don't think drush uses the apache vhosts at all
[03:51:57]<siliconmeadow>the default host is at /srv/http on Arch.
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[03:52:03]<bgm>is archOS kind of like CentOS?
[03:52:18]<siliconmeadow>You don't think it uses it at the late stage of the install process?
[03:52:35]<bgm>i doubt it
[03:52:50]<siliconmeadow>arch is like arch, I think. I think it may have originally forked from slack linux or something like that
[03:53:38]<bgm>ok, still, you might want to check the install hints for CentOS, since there is no package for that OS
[03:54:10]<bgm>if changing the OS is an option, there are Debian packages for AEgir, and it's really really trivial to install/maintain
[03:54:17]<siliconmeadow>inspired by CRUX (whatever that is) - thanks for the tip. I have been combing through the hints file
[03:54:45]<siliconmeadow>I've got plenty of Deb experience with Aegir already and have several servers with it.
[03:55:17]<siliconmeadow>I got sick of Ubuntu and have fallen in love with Arch on the desktop (not sure I'd want to use it on production servers)
[03:55:43]<siliconmeadow>and thought I'd provide some instructions for Arch users in the hints file when I get this sorted
[03:56:17]<siliconmeadow>that's my background and motivation for trying this on arch :-)
[03:57:01]<siliconmeadow>I'm fairly certain I'll be keeping my production servers running on ubuntu and using koubit's repo for aegir updates
[03:57:36]<bgm>fwiw, and i don't mean to start any flame wars, debian is really much better suited for servers, imho
[03:57:55]<bgm>(than Ubuntu)
[03:57:55]<siliconmeadow>lol!
[03:58:08]<siliconmeadow>How dare you say that! Pistols at dawn!
[03:58:19]<bgm>:)
[03:59:09]* siliconmeadow secretly prefers redhat on servers
[03:59:15]<bgm>only meant that if your experience with ubuntu was not very good, it might be better with debian
[03:59:50]<bgm>the koumbit packages are (afaik) only tested against debian
[04:00:17]<anarcat>koumbit packages?
[04:00:24]<anarcat>the packagse are on debian.aegirproject.org now :)
[04:00:27]<siliconmeadow>ah, well I don't have too much problem with the ubuntu servers. It's Ubuntu on the desktop that pissed me off.
[04:01:16]<siliconmeadow>thanks anarcat, that probably explains why my servers haven't told me to upgrade to 1.6 yet?
[04:01:21]* bgm will stop trolling and goes back to work ;)
[04:02:03]* siliconmeadow wonders 'bgm calls THAT trolling? Amateur.'
[04:02:47]<anarcat>siliconmeadow: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/debian-archive-migrated-debian...
[04:04:46]<siliconmeadow>thanks anarcat :-)
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[09:13:24]<Vertice>hey all
[09:14:06]<Vertice>just realized today is my 1 year anniversary of leaving aegir
[09:14:09]<Vertice>made me miss you guys
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[09:16:20]<anarcat>Vertice: :)
[09:16:29]<anarcat>we miss you too
[09:16:44]<Vertice>how's the hosted drupal game ?
[09:17:03]<anarcat>i don't know
[09:17:07]<anarcat>i've been out of the loop for months
[09:17:12]<mig5>i switched to wordpress
[09:17:32]<mig5>just kidding
[09:18:56]<mig5>a year later and we are still trying to understand how the service-oriented provision works :)
[09:21:39]<Vertice>so many compromises to make shit happen in php
[09:21:57]<Vertice>i'm glad provision was my last major work in php
[09:22:04]<Vertice>it made me realize the limits
[09:23:05]<anarcat>yeah
[09:23:07]<anarcat>it's a pos
[09:26:10]<Vertice>and mysql. jesus
[09:26:34]<Vertice>so much of the pain in aegir was about shunting objects into tables asynchronously
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[09:30:31]<Vertice>couchdb would make shit so simple
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[09:33:33]<mig5>go on, patches welcome
[09:33:36]<mig5>:)
[09:33:42]<mig5>you know you want to
[09:43:03]<anarcat>haha
[09:43:15]<anarcat>we're using git you know, you could have a dev branch... ;)
[09:46:14]<Vertice>god i dont miss cvs
[09:47:01]<anarcat>eh
[09:47:09]<anarcat>i'm giving out git trainings these days
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[09:49:04]<anarcat>those are in french: https://wiki.koumbit.net/FormationGit https://wiki.koumbit.net/FormationGitAvanc%C3%A9e
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[10:02:45]<mig5>cool!
[10:03:14]<anarcat>Vertice: nice to see you again :) we should send you cookies or something :)
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[10:03:22]<Vertice>heh
[10:03:28]<Vertice>ciao guys
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