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| [03:37:22] | <hefring> | community => Prevent user1 in Client Emails, use second user instead => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/prevent-user1-client-emails-us... |
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| [05:38:37] | <wildfeed> | Would like to clone latest repository for Aegir 2. Link please? |
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| [05:47:44] | <bgm> | wildfeed: iirc, it's all on drupal.org now |
| [05:47:52] | <bgm> | ex: project/provision, hostmaster, etc. |
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| [05:48:49] | <wildfeed> | Not seeing anything for D7 there |
| [05:49:07] | <wildfeed> | Looking for D7 port |
| [05:49:25] | <bgm> | wildfeed: did you check "git branch -r -v" ? |
| [05:49:42] | <wildfeed> | will do that now |
| [05:50:44] | <wildfeed> | got it now. Thanks!! |
| [05:51:08] | <bgm> | :) |
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| [07:01:33] | <mig5> | scrum time - any devs here? anarcat: ergonlogic: |
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| [07:01:38] | <anarcat> | hey |
| [07:01:38] | <hefring> | eh oh |
| [07:01:39] | <anarcat> | yes |
| [07:01:41] | <mig5> | I believe darthsteven is currently at a Drupal meetup |
| [07:01:44] | <mig5> | hello! |
| [07:01:44] | <hefring> | ni hao |
| [07:01:49] | <anarcat> | very little for me again |
| [07:01:57] | <anarcat> | i have released this nifty module that waglo wrote: http://drupal.org/project/dblogin |
| [07:02:16] | <mig5> | ooh interesting |
| [07:02:51] | <darthsteven> | Hello! |
| [07:02:51] | <hefring> | yo |
| [07:02:56] | <mig5> | very little from me too. i sent out a silly newsletter last wednesday to be in timing for Vertice's 1 year anniversary |
| [07:02:59] | <mig5> | hey darthsteven, you made it! :) |
| [07:03:03] | <darthsteven> | Nothing from me today, hoping to do some real work on Aegir soon though! |
| [07:03:09] | <anarcat> | hey darthsteven |
| [07:03:18] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i was wondering - how is the d7 port? |
| [07:03:19] | <darthsteven> | mig5: Thanks for that |
| [07:03:32] | <darthsteven> | Hah, stalled |
| [07:03:45] | <darthsteven> | I have 0 time to spend on aegir at the moment |
| [07:03:49] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [07:03:52] | <anarcat> | i know your pain |
| [07:03:53] | <darthsteven> | That will change in Jan |
| [07:03:58] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [07:04:12] | <anarcat> | i note that ohloh thinks we have decreasing overtime development |
| [07:04:23] | <mig5> | probably true |
| [07:04:26] | <darthsteven> | I'm trying to convince my employer to sponsor some of my time on Aegir |
| [07:05:01] | <darthsteven> | Pretty much will be able to spend 1 day every three weeks |
| [07:05:18] | <darthsteven> | Sorry, I'll be quiet now. |
| [07:05:30] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [07:05:36] | <anarcat> | pretty much the same situation for me |
| [07:05:55] | <anarcat> | so basically, we're looking for sponsors and workforce :) |
| [07:06:38] | <darthsteven> | Yup |
| [07:07:08] | <darthsteven> | I want to donate money to the project, can someone let me know how :) |
| [07:07:43] | <anarcat> | don't we have a paypal account? :) |
| [07:07:59] | <mig5> | i think koumbit do ;) |
| [07:08:14] | <anarcat> | ah right, that's what that button does |
| [07:08:31] | <anarcat> | i wonder how many donatiosn we receive there |
| [07:08:36] | <mig5> | me too :P |
| [07:08:37] | * anarcat will take a look |
| [07:10:08] | <anarcat> | the answer is 0$ |
| [07:10:15] | <mig5> | whee |
| [07:10:28] | <mig5> | i thought i recalled ergonlogic or someone thanking some people in some release notes |
| [07:10:44] | <anarcat> | interestingly enough, 6 of those are "incomplete transaction" |
| [07:10:59] | <anarcat> | people donating between 18 and 100$ have canceled their submission, apparently |
| [07:11:10] | <mig5> | yeah 'http://community.aegirproject.org/1.3' |
| [07:11:11] | <mig5> | oh ok |
| [07:11:19] | <mig5> | weird |
| [07:11:35] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [07:11:37] | <anarcat> | i wonder |
| [07:11:48] | <anarcat> | i see my failed donation there, and it happened after i hit cancel in paypal |
| [07:11:54] | <anarcat> | i'll try to do a real donation to see if it works |
| [07:13:20] | <mig5> | me too |
| [07:13:21] | <anarcat> | this shit doesn't work |
| [07:13:28] | <mig5> | seemed to work for me |
| [07:13:29] | <anarcat> | dude, did you just donate a lot? |
| [07:13:34] | <mig5> | $50 |
| [07:13:43] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [07:13:47] | <anarcat> | mig5: it says: En attente (Incomplete Transaction) |
| [07:13:49] | <mig5> | that's a lot? |
| [07:13:50] | <mig5> | hmm |
| [07:13:53] | <mig5> | that's no good |
| [07:13:54] | <anarcat> | well, for a test :) |
| [07:14:18] | <mig5> | i got a transaction id but no confirmation email |
| [07:14:45] | <mig5> | it doesn't show up in my paypal activity though |
| [07:14:50] | <mig5> | so probably just didn't do anything |
| [07:15:15] | <anarcat> | civicrm, i love you |
| [07:15:26] | <anarcat> | so that button freaking doesn't work |
| [07:15:40] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: the donate button in the community site doesn't work |
| [07:15:57] | <anarcat> | we should just create a paypal account for the project and be done with it, remove the koumbit intermediary |
| [07:16:09] | <mig5> | i think we'll need more dev hands on deck.. let's be honest.. devseed left us, and many others, in the lurch, and i don't think we ever fully recovered |
| [07:16:12] | <anarcat> | mig5 / darthsteven : ... and then us three can share the access in some way |
| [07:16:22] | <mig5> | i wish i could code a bit better or i'd do it, but i don't think it's my strength |
| [07:16:38] | <anarcat> | i agree we need more people |
| [07:16:45] | <anarcat> | i will not comment on your skills, you never listen to me :P |
| [07:17:00] | <mig5> | will i git log | grep migression to make my point? :) |
| [07:17:22] | <mig5> | anyways. next month i am at Drupal DownUnder talking aegir, i'll try and evangelise and drum up dev interest |
| [07:17:29] | <mig5> | oh! how was Drupalcamp NYC, how did the session go? |
| [07:17:43] | <anarcat> | the session went well! |
| [07:17:56] | <anarcat> | i got to talk with the pantheon guys about how they do intersite security, it was really interesting |
| [07:18:10] | <mig5> | ah nice |
| [07:18:20] | <mig5> | are they in fact doing multisite? |
| [07:18:40] | <anarcat> | yeah, they switched away from one vserver per site |
| [07:18:48] | <mig5> | interesting |
| [07:19:28] | <gusaus> | not sure the context, but seeing pantheon and aegir in the same chat sounds exciteing |
| [07:19:54] | <mig5> | it's good to trade war stories :) |
| [07:20:13] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [07:20:20] | <anarcat> | yeah, it was great |
| [07:20:33] | <mig5> | what amazes me about pantheon is the deliberate simplicity of it.. not too many features, quite spartan in its approach |
| [07:20:47] | <mig5> | you have to be good to avoid feature creep like that |
| [07:20:58] | <mig5> | anyways - shall we call that a scrum end? |
| [07:21:13] | <anarcat> | yes, i think we're done |
| [07:21:27] | <anarcat> | although i'd like feedback on the paypal idea - how about we just setup a paypal account for aegir and be done with it? |
| [07:22:14] | <anarcat> | mig5: i see the transaction in my paypal account, can you doublecheck you see it? |
| [07:22:58] | <mig5> | oh, i do see it now yes |
| [07:23:03] | <mig5> | status Completed |
| [07:23:28] | <anarcat> | i don't see it in the koumbit account |
| [07:23:48] | <mig5> | +1 for the paypal idea.. someone could divide it up into thirds and send on to each individual's paypal account or something |
| [07:24:03] | <anarcat> | or we could just pile it up and collectively decide wtf to do with it |
| [07:24:08] | <mig5> | was about to say that :) |
| [07:24:28] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:24:28] | <mig5> | i might fish into it for the cost of jenkins and the mailing list servers every now and then, but that's rather small already |
| [07:24:32] | <anarcat> | so i'll setp the account |
| [07:24:32] | <mig5> | $30 per monht or so |
| [07:24:35] | <anarcat> | of course |
| [07:25:04] | <zorki> | this happy user would like to be the first to donate |
| [07:25:27] | <mig5> | \o/ |
| [07:25:51] | <zorki> | my life depends on you |
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| [07:29:37] | <gusaus> | you're setting up paypal to fund aegir dev? |
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| [07:31:24] | <anarcat> | it's the idea |
| [07:31:27] | <anarcat> | other suggestions? |
| [07:32:22] | <gusaus> | ben from agaric has been trying to set something up - he just presented in nyc - http://drupalcampnyc.org/sessions/community-spotlight-business-end-users |
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| [07:34:09] | <gusaus> | basically a kickstarter type thing for drupal |
| [07:34:15] | <mig5> | ooh sounds cool |
| [07:34:20] | <mig5> | i love kickstarter |
| [07:35:21] | <gusaus> | we're hoping to use something like that to help fund the music distro we're trying to build |
| [07:36:01] | <anarcat> | should we use this for aegir? |
| [07:36:08] | <anarcat> | i mean, how is the money actually transfered anyways? |
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| [07:37:39] | <mig5> | mmm no idea |
| [07:37:51] | <mig5> | does he have a URL of it yet or is it just an idea |
| [07:38:43] | <gusaus> | there's some info in this group - http://groups.drupal.org/paying-plumbing |
| [07:39:03] | <gusaus> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/190094 |
| [07:39:04] | <hefring> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/190094 => Snowball Charter => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [07:58:23] | <anarcat> | mig5: i'm tallying up all the valid transactions to see how much money we're talking about here |
| [07:59:48] | <anarcat> | mig5: i will refund your 50$ at the very least :) |
| [08:02:45] | <mig5> | i was happy for you to keep it :) |
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| [08:04:56] | <anarcat> | well, too late for that |
| [08:06:02] | <anarcat> | so |
| [08:06:04] | <anarcat> | drum roll |
| [08:06:28] | <anarcat> | since july, we have received 244$ in 5 contributions, for an average of 48.8$ per contrib |
| [08:06:32] | <anarcat> | now |
| [08:06:39] | <anarcat> | that money is still in koumbit's paypal account |
| [08:07:02] | <anarcat> | what should i do with it? |
| [08:07:10] | <anarcat> | do we donate it to koumbit for service rendered? :) |
| [08:08:15] | <mig5> | hehe |
| [08:08:17] | <mig5> | i guess so! |
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| [08:18:13] | * anarcat wonders if we shouldn't use flattr instead |
| [08:18:54] | <mig5> | i don't know it - looks good, maybe less evil than paypal? :) |
| [08:19:06] | <mig5> | same question, how are payments transferred from it? |
| [08:19:07] | <anarcat> | that's what i figured |
| [08:19:09] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [08:19:10] | <anarcat> | i can't find |
| [08:20:04] | <mig5> | bbs, breakfast |
| [08:20:32] | <anarcat> | anyways, let's figure this out later |
| [08:20:35] | <anarcat> | i have to move on |
| [08:21:55] | <anarcat> | hum |
| [08:22:05] | <anarcat> | well, i have the paypal buttons ready and the account, so fuckit, let's use paypal |
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| [08:26:41] | <anarcat> | gee. |
| [08:26:48] | <anarcat> | there's no way i am making this a book page |
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| [08:28:38] | <mig5> | hehe |
| [08:28:53] | <mig5> | can we not insert the paypal button in that block on the front page under the 'latest release' |
| [08:28:56] | <mig5> | where the ohloh stuff is |
| [08:31:45] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [08:31:46] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/donate |
| [08:32:01] | <anarcat> | i changed the link int hat block to point to that page |
| [08:32:09] | <anarcat> | i made a static page content type so not anybody can edit the damn thing too |
| [08:32:47] | <anarcat> | i don't understand why the *f* the float doesn't work |
| [08:32:50] | <anarcat> | so it's ugly as shit |
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| [08:33:35] | <anarcat> | flattr shaves 10% off donations |
| [08:33:55] | <anarcat> | - Actuellement, Flattr supporte la majorité des cartes de crédit et les services bancaires directs. Nous utilisons Moneybookers et Paypal pour ça. Pour retirer de l'argent, vous pouvez utiliser PayPal ou Moneybookers. |
| [08:34:07] | <anarcat> | so no big solution there |
| [08:34:19] | <redndahead> | anarcat: style="float: right" |
| [08:34:44] | <anarcat> | right ok |
| [08:34:47] | * anarcat rusty |
| [08:35:15] | <mig5> | :) |
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| [08:36:46] | <mig5> | thanks anarcat |
| [08:37:40] | <anarcat> | <sigh> |
| [08:37:49] | <anarcat> | mig5: i'm trying to add your email to the paypal account and failing |
| [08:37:56] | <mig5> | how come? |
| [08:37:57] | <anarcat> | both emails i have for you are marked as registered already |
| [08:38:05] | <mig5> | can it link an existing account? |
| [08:38:05] | <anarcat> | The email address you submitted is already registered with another PayPal account. If you own that account, login to perform transactions. Otherwise, please enter a different email address. |
| [08:38:10] | <mig5> | ah |
| [08:38:13] | <anarcat> | i don't know |
| [08:38:20] | <mig5> | you can add aegir@mig5.net |
| [08:38:29] | <mig5> | i think you receive mails sent to that already, as well as me :) |
| [08:38:34] | <mig5> | (twitter account) |
| [08:38:46] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [08:38:54] | <anarcat> | i activated mail on @aegirproject.org too |
| [08:38:58] | <anarcat> | so anarcat@aegirproject.org works |
| [08:39:24] | <mig5> | oh nice |
| [08:39:25] | <anarcat> | i'll add paypal@aegirproject.org |
| [08:39:28] | <mig5> | good idea |
| [08:40:28] | <mig5> | that donate button on http://community.aegirproject.org/donate seems to just reload the page for me |
| [08:40:39] | <mig5> | oh, it's fixed |
| [08:40:44] | <mig5> | i refreshed |
| [08:41:44] | <mig5> | boo |
| [08:41:45] | <mig5> | You cannot use this credit card for this transaction. Please use another funding source. |
| [08:41:48] | <mig5> | wtf |
| [08:41:59] | <anarcat> | wtf |
| [08:42:20] | <mig5> | probably my problem, not yours |
| [08:42:30] | <mig5> | yet the credit card is fine.. it's even debt free! :) |
| [08:42:49] | <mig5> | plus it's not a credit card, it's linked to my bank account |
| [08:42:50] | <mig5> | weird |
| [08:44:02] | <anarcat> | it worked for the other form? |
| [08:44:25] | <anarcat> | alright, so the email for the account is paypal@aegirproject.org and that redirects to us three |
| [08:48:33] | <anarcat> | the cool thing with having a /donate page is that (a) it's easy to remember and point people to and (b) we can add other methods there seamlessly |
| [08:48:40] | <anarcat> | mig5: i sent you a u/p for paypal by email |
| [08:48:51] | <anarcat> | you should be able to login to the account and do stuff from there |
| [08:50:05] | <mig5> | got the email |
| [08:50:12] | <mig5> | not sure about the username - paypal wants an email address |
| [08:50:21] | <mig5> | tried paypal@aegirproject.org and that password and it didn't work either |
| [08:52:04] | <mig5> | well, i was able to donate to paypal@aegirproject.org in the end, but not via the form, only by 'sending money' while logged into my own paypal account |
| [08:52:06] | <anarcat> | no, use the username |
| [08:52:07] | <mig5> | strange |
| [08:52:15] | <anarcat> | even if it asks for a email |
| [08:52:29] | <mig5> | i tried that first |
| [08:52:42] | <mig5> | i'll try again |
| [08:52:46] | <anarcat> | try it in capitals |
| [08:53:02] | <mig5> | oh, all good sorry |
| [08:53:10] | <mig5> | i must've had the wrong clipboard for password |
| [08:53:50] | <anarcat> | good |
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| [09:10:12] | <hefring> | community => Changed the donation form to a new paypal account => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/changed-donation-form-new-payp... |
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| [10:11:18] | <zorki> | the form works i did it |
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