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[11:31:31]<halcyonCorsair>(damn timezones)
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[22:07:46]<Harley>hello -- is there any way with Aegir to have a master robot.txt to block all sites on that server? we have a dev domain and a live domain. want to block all sites on the dev domain from being indexed.
[22:15:56]<algar>i'm afraid you're going to need a robots.txt for each subdomain
[22:16:20]<algar>or you could get creative with mod_rewrite
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[22:39:35]<elmertoft>Hi. I just installed Aegir on Ubuntu. I can't login though. Can someone help me?
[22:39:57]<elmertoft>I'm trying to log in via the browser on http://myhost/
[22:42:51]<Harley>algar: thanks
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[23:51:57]<halcyonCorsair>Harley: you could put an htaccess password on the dev sites
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[23:52:09]<halcyonCorsair>with the aegir_http_basic contrib module
[23:52:26]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: thanks! but is nginx.... BOA -- still an option?
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[23:55:33]<Harley>that would be a negative -- not ported to AEGir v2 -- http://drupal.org/node/1205090
[23:55:33]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1205090 => Easy way to apply http authentication to sites managed by aegir => Barracuda, Code, normal, postponed, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[00:06:15]<halcyonCorsair>BOA is using 2.x code huh?
[00:06:29]<halcyonCorsair>Harley: how long has BOA been on 2.x for do you know?
[00:07:05]<halcyonCorsair>Harley: any particular reason you're using boa?
[00:07:10]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: no clue.... not sure what the benefits of 2 vs 1 are.
[00:07:33]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: our motivation was how to solve the age old problem of dev/sta/pro servers.
[00:07:48]<Harley>seemed a good fit for migrating, testing, cloning, etc.
[00:07:56]<Harley>your use?
[00:08:08]<halcyonCorsair>i roll my own aegir with nginx, etc
[00:09:15]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: gotya don't have that skill set here in house. small travel company.
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[00:11:46]<halcyonCorsair>right, well, boa might be useful for that, but it does a bunch of things i don't want / don't need and doesn't fit with our processes
[00:12:10]<halcyonCorsair>essentially i do this: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual/manual-install-web-c...
[00:12:29]<halcyonCorsair>though i'm in the middle of writing a fabric recipe to sort the whole thing out for me
[00:12:30]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: gotya.. how long you been an aegir user?
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[00:14:41]<halcyonCorsair>several months i guess, though its been kinda a side project for me
[00:15:07]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: okay -- perhaps the same then for us is 6 months
[00:15:34]<Harley>about to launch the site and have this issue now and managing all the robot.txt can see that a hastle...
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[00:17:56]<halcyonCorsair>Harley: htaccess is definitely the best way, umm, you could put a proxy config in front (similar to the ssl wildcard proxy) that just puts on the htaccess password
[00:18:46]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: excuse my lack of knowledge but isnt the .htaccess exclusive to apache?
[00:20:28]<halcyonCorsair>Harley: see http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpAuthBasicModule
[00:21:41]<Harley>thanks - silly me -- we make use of this on a different server.. haha. will post to the issue que if any potential confilicts.
[00:28:41]<halcyonCorsair>np
[00:30:09]<halcyonCorsair>Harley: how much boa functionality do you use? how many platforms do you have it install?
[00:31:42]<Harley>halcyonCorsair: not so much just a few different platofors as the code develops. for the functionality feel we use a good portion of it.. easy to use drush, spin up a site to test something, backups, etc.
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[00:45:25]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: pong again
[00:45:41]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: oh hai...
[00:45:45]<ergonlogic>hey
[00:45:45]<hefring>bonjour
[00:46:05]<halcyonCorsair>i think i wanted to ask you / tell you something about your aegir puppet module...
[00:46:24]<ergonlogic>sure
[00:46:38]<ergonlogic>it's still a prototype, at this point
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[00:47:22]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: where does it live atm? perhaps if i look again it'll jog my memory
[00:47:43]<ergonlogic>drupal.org/project/puppet-aegir
[00:48:26]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: oh btw, do you know how to turn on aegir features via drush?
[00:48:52]<ergonlogic>apart from "drush en"
[00:48:55]<ergonlogic>?
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[00:50:30]<halcyonCorsair>features vs. modules (not sure if they're actually different?)
[00:50:33]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: I split out the puppet and drush modules from Aegir-up (github.com/ergonlogic/aegir-up)
[00:51:13]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: not significantly... my understanding is that the features page is really just a user-friendly interface to the modules page
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[00:54:24]<halcyonCorsair>hmm, the clients feature isn't behaving as i'd expect
[00:54:40]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: anarcat and I refactored these puppet modules pretty heavily on Monday, and right now they depend on a couple of shared modules...
[00:54:46]<ergonlogic>how so?
[00:55:11]<halcyonCorsair>client module enabled, client feature disabled
[00:57:28]<ergonlogic>hmm
[00:57:40]<ergonlogic>let me see if I can reproduce
[00:58:45]<ergonlogic>yep. I see the same thing here
[00:59:05]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: heh, i'm actually heading away from puppet temporarily for easy setup and teardown of aegir
[00:59:22]<ergonlogic>oh?
[00:59:30]<halcyonCorsair>at the moment it just seems easier to use fabric
[00:59:37]<ergonlogic>sure
[00:59:47]<halcyonCorsair>well, a few factors involved here
[01:00:16]<ergonlogic>but these are intended to manage our production hosting at Koumbit
[01:00:17]<halcyonCorsair>i'm setting up: vms: db, aegir, aegirweb1, aegirweb2
[01:00:48]<ergonlogic>aegir-up will be a dev/test platform for that, among other things
[01:00:52]<halcyonCorsair>and i'm intending it for development purposes, although perhaps eventually for deployment purposes
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[01:01:13]<ergonlogic>yeah, that's what we use for testing at ci.aegirproejct.org
[01:01:55]<ergonlogic>jenkins calls fabric to install aegir, and run it through its paces
[01:02:13]<halcyonCorsair>yeah, i've seen some of mig5's stuff
[01:02:14]<ergonlogic>have you looked at how steven and miguel did that?
[01:02:18]<ergonlogic>k
[01:02:44]<halcyonCorsair>not sure if i've seen the current up to date stuff though, is that sitting anywhere, or just miguel's github?
[01:03:14]<ergonlogic>it's been merged into... provision I think
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[01:03:22]<ergonlogic>there's a branch, iirc
[01:04:33]<halcyonCorsair>oh really?
[01:05:07]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: i'm in favour of puppet and fabric, but not debs for aegir/drupal, they have too many drawbacks
[01:06:16]<ergonlogic>I can't find it right now
[01:06:44]<ergonlogic>yeah, we'll be adding a "manual" install to the puppet module
[01:07:40]<ergonlogic>so we can support using the git repos, as well as to more easily support other OSes
[01:08:17]<ergonlogic>debs for drupal are kinda silly, imho
[01:08:26]<ergonlogic>but for aegir, I think they make sense
[01:08:50]<ergonlogic>especially now that anarcat is a Debian Developer
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[01:15:13]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: aha! I think I found the fabric stuff: http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014.git/tree/refs/heads/ma...
[01:15:41]<ergonlogic>there's a link to it from http://community.aegirproject.org/developing/continuous-integration
[01:17:53]<halcyonCorsair>looks like theres been a fair bit of work on it
[01:18:29]<ergonlogic>whoa! that's strange... disabling hosting_client.module *removes* 'clients' from the aegir features page
[01:19:17]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: they seem to be linked, i haven't looked at what submitting the features page form does yet
[01:19:54]<ergonlogic>they should basically mirror each other
[01:22:51]<halcyonCorsair>'twould make my life easier if that were true :)
[01:23:30]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: want to take a look at my aegir setup recipe for a laugh?
[01:23:40]<ergonlogic>that's the case for other features
[01:23:52]<ergonlogic>I just tested it with hosting_cron
[01:23:56]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: sure
[01:24:37]<ergonlogic>anyway, the clients feature thing is a bug
[01:24:51]<ergonlogic>I'll file an issue and see if I can't fix it
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[01:28:10]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: sure
[01:28:24]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: sure, I'd love to see your aegir setup recipe
[01:28:27]<ergonlogic>sorry for the spam
[01:28:57]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: one moment
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[01:39:35]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: here you go: https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/fabric-aegir somewhat sanitized from my local copy, but otherwise its where i'm currently at
[01:42:34]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: with any luck i *won't* find that i've essentially rewritten boa in fabric :)
[01:42:44]<ergonlogic>lol
[01:42:51]<ergonlogic>I
[01:43:26]<ergonlogic>halcyonCorsair: I'll have to take a closer look, but from a quick glance, it looks like you're following the manual install instructions
[01:43:39]<ergonlogic>which makes sense, of course
[01:43:49]<ergonlogic>boa does a bunch of other stuff
[01:44:37]<halcyonCorsair>ergonlogic: essentially i'm doing a manual install, using nginx, php fpm, and setting up a web cluster, etc
[01:44:59]<halcyonCorsair>although tbh, most of that is really yak shaving
[01:44:59]<ergonlogic>the key-sharing stuff is something I hadn't gotten to in aegir-up yet
[01:46:00]<halcyonCorsair>the real logic that i need / want is the bit that'll upgrade provision / hostmaster to a certain tag in git
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[01:59:46]<halcyonCorsair>right, bedtime....way past it in fact :(
[02:00:00]<joestewart>halcyonCorsair++
[02:00:24]<halcyonCorsair>joestewart: how far past for you? its kinda 4am here...
[02:00:27]<joestewart>won't get to try the fabric-aegir stuff for awhile, but will help then. thanks.
[02:00:46]<joestewart>9:00AM
[02:03:03]<halcyonCorsair>joestewart: feel free to refactor and improve, i'm doing a bit of a sprint now, but will probably lay off over christmas a bit :)
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[02:39:14]<stieglitz>Having some trouble adding new platforms to aegir site. The first platform I added was drupal 6.22 which is the hostmaster platform. I drush dl d-7.10 as aegir user but the platform wont verify. After looking at the ownership I see the 6.22 platform is owned by 6226 all the rest are aegir/aegir Kind of a newb as I am sure you can tell but I'm not sure how it needs to be configured
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[03:04:37]<stieglitz>okay I re-read some docs and found the sudo chown -R $aegir_user $platform/sites/*/files this seems to demonstrate that I have forgotten the sudo aegir password
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[03:16:08]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: the aegir user doesn't have a password
[03:16:34]<ergonlogic>that command is likely prompting you for your root password
[03:16:43]<ergonlogic>no sorry
[03:16:52]<ergonlogic>that would be your user's password
[03:18:00]<stieglitz>oh
[03:18:14]<stieglitz>I'll try that thank you
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[03:22:04]<stieglitz>I must not be running the right command for chown
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[03:24:59]<stieglitz>but I am correct all the platforms should be owned by aegir and the group aegir ?
[03:31:19]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: yep
[03:31:35]<stieglitz>ok thx
[03:32:05]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: try 'sudo chown aegir:aegir /var/aegir/platforms/* -r'
[03:32:12]<ergonlogic>or something like that
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[03:36:10]<stieglitz>chown -R aegir platforms/* seemed to do it. Now I'll see if it fixed it
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[04:00:37]<ukan>hi guys, I'm gonna ask a newbie q
[04:00:40]<ukan>ueoops
[04:02:27]<ukan>I'm gonna ask a newbie question (spoiler alert !) : how do I programmatically connect to a drupal site under aegir ? I do it constantly with classic drupal sites but I cannot make it work under aegir/drupal multisite environment
[04:07:31]<bgm>ukan: what do you mean by "connect"?
[04:07:38]<bgm>login?
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[04:08:44]<ukan>not exactly login, I want to be able to do changes do changes on the site, for example I want to be able to use variable_set function and so on.
[04:09:49]<ukan>The goal is to put programmatically content on my sites
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[04:10:05]<bgm>ukan: how did you do it before?
[04:10:36]<bgm>ukan: you can either use drush (drush @www.example.org vset [...]), or use xml-rpc, or the services module, or probably many other ways
[04:10:46]<bgm>but if you're doing it directly in sql, i'd recommend against that
[04:12:04]<ukan>I don't do it directly in SQL, I do it by using drupal functions such as node_save, menu_link_save...
[04:12:53]<bgm>ukan: remotely?
[04:13:38]<ukan>I "conntect" to drupal just as index.php but from a different path and then just use drupal function. The script is on the same server but on a different path
[04:15:13]<bgm>hmm, ok
[04:15:17]<bgm>you might want to use drush for that
[04:16:00]<bgm>see drush php-script, for example
[04:16:04]<ukan>I'm not sure drush will be such a help in creating node for example. Or is it ?
[04:16:14]<bgm>this will do a clean bootstrap of drupal, with the correct db credentials, etc
[04:16:30]<bgm>then you can use your code to do the node/variable changes
[04:17:20]<ukan>hum, that's interesting. I think I'll try this
[04:17:23]<ukan>Thanks
[04:17:38]<bgm>np, good luck
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[04:33:23]<stieglitz>so i chown and chgrp to aegir/aegir but I receive the following error on verify var/aegir/platforms/drupal-7.10 does not contain a valid Drupal installation Should I look at deleting platform and all files?
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[04:55:32]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: could you give a bit more detail about how your environment?
[04:55:51]<ergonlogic>it seems odd that the hostmaster platform would be owned by 6226
[04:57:53]<stieglitz>var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.5 is aegir/aegir var/aegir/platforms/drupal-6.22 was 6226/6226 but I changed to aegir/aegir
[05:00:26]<stieglitz>im not sure if that helps ergonlogic
[05:03:08]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: I think this threw me off "The first platform I added was drupal 6.22 which is the hostmaster platform."
[05:03:30]<ergonlogic>and when you do a 'drush dl', what do you get?
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[05:03:43]<stieglitz>success
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[05:06:05]<ergonlogic>:)
[05:06:58]<stieglitz>sorry I threw you off. a little unsure of the aegir "magic" structure :-/
[05:08:52]<ergonlogic>no worries... I just think of the 'hostmaster platform' as generally being at /var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.6/ (or whatever), and anything else being in /var/aegir/platforms/
[05:09:12]<stieglitz>ic ok
[05:09:26]<ergonlogic>but there's nothing stopping you from putting the hostmaster platform under platforms/, either... except convention
[05:10:01]<stieglitz>so if I understand correctly a failed verify may result in extraneous files that need to be deleted?
[05:11:26]<stieglitz>no I think the platform/d-6.22 was just the first platform created after getting it working How it got the 6226 I do not know
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[05:17:16]<ergonlogic>stieglitz: a platform verify will potentially build the platform from a makefile, if the platform doesn't already exist, so it could result some extra files, but generally it's pretty good about cleaning up after itself
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[05:30:39]<scottalan>Just upgraded to 6.x-1.6 and I noticed that the $conf['aegir_api'] = 0. Should/does this have to be manually changed for all installed sites?
[05:34:06]<jamie_>anarchat: has aegir-provision and aegir-hostmaster been removed from the koumbit debian repository?
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[05:35:27]<anarchat>jamie_: yes, they are on debian.aegirproject.org
[05:35:38]<jamie_>ah. ok. thnx.
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[05:56:18]<joestewart>stieglitz: I've seen the 6226 when somebody does sudo drush dl instead of as the aegir user
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[06:35:03]<anarchat>.... great.
[06:35:04]<anarchat>: in (line of ). [10.73 sec, 23.77 MB] [error]
[06:35:08]<anarchat>Changes made in drush_http_provision_install have been rolled back. [10.73 sec, 20.97 MB] [rollback]
[06:35:12]<anarchat> has no config file [10.73 sec, 20.97 MB] [notice]
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[08:09:10]<stieglitz>joestewart yeah I think that was the cause
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