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[13:22:42]<eDeloa>Is there a resource I can check out regarding setting up multiple instances of Aegir on a single server?
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[15:01:05]<AquaticDisorder>eDeloa: http://drupal.org/project/barracuda, http://omega8.cc/open-source/projects might be of intrest
[15:02:02]<AquaticDisorder>oops! http://drupal.org/project/barracuda and http://omega8.cc/open-source/projects might be of intrest
[15:03:45]<AquaticDisorder>*interest
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[15:23:58]<eDeloa>AquaticDisorder: thanks - I was hoping I could find something more along the lines of a guide, rather than have to reverse engineer some scripts, but anything helps at this point. Thanks again
[15:25:16]<AquaticDisorder>eDeloa: np
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[21:00:53]<darthsteven>Jenkins is about to get busy...
[21:03:11]<mig5>i'm amazed it remembers how to do it! :)
[21:05:09]<hefring>Git => Issue #1396326 by Steven Jones: Fixed Mod rewrite double escapes URLs. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/6d0a23c8592de23ac...
[21:05:27]<mig5>magic
[21:07:19]<darthsteven>heh
[21:07:46]<darthsteven>good to know it all still works :)
[21:16:16]<darthsteven>How are you Mr mig5?
[21:16:33]<mig5>ah, not bad
[21:16:45]<mig5>it seems like a crazy time of the year, but i said that at the end of last year too :)
[21:16:51]<mig5>i guess it's just crazy
[21:16:56]<darthsteven>indeed
[21:17:04]<darthsteven>what makes it crazy for you?
[21:17:15]<mig5>just busy, lots of clients with big deadlines
[21:17:39]<darthsteven>ditto
[21:17:50]<mig5>got my aegir talk at DrupalDownUnder this time next week. i had to cram a bit into 45 min, so it feels a bit rushed, but i'm trying to deliver some 'newbie' stuff as well as advanced, jenkins+aegir cli stuff
[21:18:02]<mig5>hopefully won't be too bewildering
[21:18:16]<darthsteven>oh cool
[21:18:28]<darthsteven>will they be being recorded do you know?
[21:18:38]<mig5>apparently, but you know how these events are
[21:18:48]<mig5>they get recorded but no-one ever sees the recordings :)
[21:18:56]<mig5>i have my hopes up anyway
[21:18:59]<darthsteven>yes...
[21:19:02]<darthsteven>cool
[21:19:16]<mig5>the org doing the recordings is called 'next day video'. that rings alarm bells already :)
[21:19:24]<darthsteven>hehe
[21:20:01]<mig5>so how are you going? you run the aegir shop as far as I'm concerned, these days :)
[21:20:04]<mig5>no pressure :)
[21:20:27]<darthsteven>in that case, Aegir has been closed for business for a little while :(
[21:20:33]<darthsteven>I've been busy
[21:20:36]<mig5>hehe
[21:20:43]<darthsteven>everyone wanting something done for Christmas
[21:20:50]<darthsteven>but, that has no passed
[21:20:59]<mig5>yep
[21:21:06]<darthsteven>I have one project in the way of me doing Aegir stuff
[21:21:07]<mig5>it's comforting to know others are like that too atm :)
[21:22:20]<darthsteven>Also, I'm going to spend one (working) day every three weeks doing Aegir stuff, as part of my paid job from Feb
[21:22:28]<mig5>ah, awesome!
[21:22:31]<darthsteven>so hopefully I won't 'get busy' again
[21:22:50]<mig5>you worry too much - we are all always too busy :)
[21:23:59]<darthsteven>guess so
[21:24:56]<mig5>i see you're getting into puppet :)
[21:25:08]<darthsteven>I read all 300 pages yesterday :D
[21:25:11]<mig5>!
[21:25:34]<darthsteven>We use puppet a little bit internally, for managing our development machines
[21:25:50]<darthsteven>but only some bits of them
[21:25:52]<mig5>i need to refactor a lot of my puppet stuff for clients... most of them are from a time before i understood that you're meant to have separate sub-classes eg ::install, ::config, etc
[21:26:03]<mig5>so i have a lot of modules with everything stuck in the init.pp
[21:26:13]<mig5>it works, but not good practice apparently :)
[21:26:24]<mig5>don't tell greg_harvey, who thinks I'm a wizard
[21:26:40]<darthsteven>yeah…that was the main reason I got the book, because I figured that someone else had solved the problems and come up with best practice etc.
[21:27:06]<mig5>funnily enough the book is a bit inconsistent at times in terms of coding standards etc
[21:27:22]<mig5>but i think perhaps the community coding standards were published after the book
[21:28:12]<darthsteven>I want to get to the point of being able to have a pre-seeded Ubuntu install disk just popping it in a new machine and being able to leave it to configure itself, and then coming back a few hours later to find a very familiar machine setup
[21:28:28]<mig5>yep
[21:28:33]<mig5>it's rewarding when you get there
[21:28:56]<mig5>at Code Enigma, i've invested a lot of effort so that developers can run a single script and get a vagrant dev machine built, and is then completely puppetised to match the production environments
[21:29:16]<mig5>then they can run another script which builds a dev site based on the repo they specify as an arg, installs the database etc
[21:29:18]<darthsteven>that's cool
[21:29:26]<mig5>sadly no aegir involved, but it's mainly puppet
[21:29:27]<darthsteven>yes
[21:29:35]<darthsteven>thinking about the same things
[21:29:54]<darthsteven>I'd like to be able to use something like Puppet to get devs onto a project
[21:30:01]<mig5>yep
[21:30:07]<darthsteven>and be able to say that the project is set up for them ready to go
[21:30:23]<mig5>and since you can mount a host-level dir on the guest, you can mount the /var/www on the guest as a host dir and let the devs still use their favourite IDE
[21:30:27]<mig5>do port-forwarding etc
[21:30:40]<mig5>that's vagrant-specific, though
[21:30:50]<darthsteven>yeah…not sure if I want to go down the VM route
[21:31:04]<darthsteven>I do realise it has many advantages
[21:31:07]<mig5>fair enough
[21:31:22]<darthsteven>but I'm not sure our environments are different enough to make it worth it
[21:31:51]<darthsteven>and it's another thing to break/not work
[21:31:58]<mig5>yeah it depends on how your devs work
[21:32:15]<mig5> at CE everyone is a telecommuter and it makes sense to have individual VMs, and even disposable VMs per project
[21:32:39]<mig5>when you have puppet working well, the 'disposal'/rebuildable nature of it becomes appealing
[21:50:10]<mig5>that is just a phenomenal effort btw http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/migrate-sites-one-aegir-another
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[21:55:39]<darthsteven>heh, it was fun!
[21:56:09]<darthsteven>it was cool that actually I didn't need to do much to get Aegir to do most of the work
[21:56:28]<darthsteven>I'm working on a 'Pull this site from another master' task for Aegir
[21:58:16]<mig5>you definitely understand Provision better than I do these days :)
[21:58:26]<mig5>that's great stuff
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[08:12:54]<michaelcole>Hello :-) How can I roll back a "hostmaster-migrate"?
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