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[12:21:02]<halcyonCorsair>can anyone tell me what would happen if i have .drush/provision-current and .drush/provision-previous in my aegir .drush directory?
[12:21:31]<mig5>you'd get php 'cannot redeclare function $blahblah' and you should not do it :)
[12:21:48]<mig5>drush will try and include both into its namespace
[12:22:35]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: thats what i'm expecting, but i'm not getting it...
[12:23:08]<mig5>rightio
[12:23:20]<mig5>things definitely still work?
[12:23:22]<mig5>tasks etc
[12:23:56]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: http://pastebin.com/gp3gzsh5
[12:24:20]<halcyonCorsair>well i'm not sure... i just started testing now
[12:24:48]<mig5>i dunno. i've never seen that setup work
[12:30:46]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: do you know where in drush it would load provision?
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[12:51:25]<Mac_Weber>what happens if one runs Barracuda in a very limited RAM system? let's say 256MB
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[13:07:25]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: i think you may have ruined me by tempting me into python via fabric
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[13:16:44]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: no I don't know i'm afraid
[13:17:50]<mig5>/var/aegir/drush/drush:for conf_dir in $(dirname "$SELF_PATH") /etc/drush $HOME/.drush ; do
[13:17:57]<mig5>somewhere in that file
[13:18:47]<mig5>maybe not
[13:18:48]<mig5>dunno
[13:26:25]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: so far i've tracked it down to behaviour of drush/includes/command.inc drush_scan_directory() i think....
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[16:02:17]<halcyonCorsair>anyone with some extreme provision-fu about the place?
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[21:32:08]<halcyonCorsair>can anyone tell me the order provision hooks are executed in? or point me towards documentation / code describing such
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[21:42:11]<dob_>can i migrate a drupal6 to drupal7 with aegir?
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[22:25:58]<halcyonCorsair>mig5, darthsteven: ping
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[23:44:50]<mvc>ergonlogic: hey, think i should add this to the aegir handbook? http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/how-export-site-aegir
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[00:01:51]<vantage|work>I know it's a nasty question here, but anyone knows why I should choose for Omega8CC hosting instead of Pantheon hosting?
[00:05:40]<vantage|work>hmz, I better take this to #omega8cc
[00:05:52]<vantage|work>although, there's noone there
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[01:18:27]<kvanderw>I just tried to clone a site - failed with error re: Table bob.node_field_instance doesn't exist query. This table is not part of the current site. Found a reference in CCK where this table was renamed to content_node_field_instance in a previous revision. Any clues where to go from here?
[01:20:27]<kvanderw>I suppose I could disable/uninstall CCK, do the clone and re-install - NO, then I would lose the contents of content_node_field_instance and with it, my CCK settings .. hmm.....
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[01:25:51]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: CCK is biting me while trying to clone a site
[01:26:06]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: really?
[01:26:29]<kvanderw>content_instance_tablename() is a function that content.install uses to determine table name
[01:26:59]<EclipseGc>k
[01:27:16]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: it is returning 'node_field_instance' but the actual table name (that was the old name) is content_node_field_instance
[01:27:32]<EclipseGc>k
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[01:30:04]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: I honestly don't know, one of the aegir guys is probably more versed in this
[01:30:15]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: clone has always "just worked" for me
[01:30:21]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: function defined in content.module
[01:30:35]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: it is providing wrong info based on schema < 6001
[01:31:01]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: so, I guess I need to check the system table and see what is out of sync
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[01:31:51]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: system table says schema is 6010
[01:31:55]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: go figure
[01:33:54]<kvanderw>the code is actually doing a check on variables - and that value is 6009
[01:34:42]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: ok, I'm not entirely sure what all that means
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[01:39:09]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: it means that code that I am reading doesn't appear to be the code that is executing - the call is is content_instance_tablename() with no param. The function definition says - return $version < 6001 ? 'node_field_instance' : 'content_node_field_instance'; where $version is $version = variable_get('content_schema_version', 0); and content_schema_version is 6009.
[01:40:01]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: yeah I mean I understand that, but I'm unsure of the ramifications
[01:40:04]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: that's all
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[01:41:12]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: I am reading the code in .../platforms/head/profiles/client/modules/contrib/cck
[01:41:21]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: I'm assuming that is the right place to look
[01:41:41]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: and that this is where the 'clone' code is going to run from.
[01:41:51]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: if that's the profile and platform running your site then yes
[01:42:04]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: since it is cloning a working site, I am assuming it is reading the values from the current site.
[01:42:08]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: but the clone code shouldn't do any updates
[01:42:11]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: it should just clone
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[01:42:26]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: no argument from me
[01:42:42]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: I've never dug into the clone code at all
[01:42:50]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: it has always "just worked" for me
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[01:43:22]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: me neither - I'm just looking at the code that failed - wondering why it is even being run.
[01:47:52]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: doubt this is it, but I had a copy of the database in the site folder (backup) named database.sql.gz - clone log identified database.sql as available and restored from it. They could be using the same name that I did - so moved it out and re-submitted - we shall see.
[01:48:33]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: that actually sounds likely
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[01:56:56]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: apparently - worked fine this time - go figure
[01:57:03]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: awesome
[01:57:40]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: doesn't make too much sense to me - the names were similar - not the same - database.sql.gz -vs- database.sql
[01:58:42]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: unless there was a 'gunzip' the 'gz' should have been enough to make it different - oh well - it worked and I can go to the next step
[01:58:56]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: :-)
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[03:29:29]<noecc>anarcat: Re: exportable backups, This node has a section on Security Considerations that may aid you in your development. http://groups.drupal.org/node/191283
[03:29:30]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/191283 => Configuration management architecture => 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:35:27]<anarcat>noecc: i am not sure i understand\
[03:35:42]<anarcat>noecc: exportable backups doesn't mean to change the backup format, just to make them downloadable by the user
[03:35:42]<noecc>food for thought
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[05:03:01]<Met4physica>hey guys/gals any news on migrating sites between aegir instances? :) :D
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[05:19:51]<anarcat>Met4physica: darthsteven wrote a great article about this, see our latest scrum log for the url
[05:27:40]<DOUBLEOH7>http://pastebin.com/T4jua7Eq Can someone please help me and explain why I cant provision sites after I upgraded aegir
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[05:31:22]<Tila>DOH i think i know why
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[05:45:17]<Tila>okay so my database information from my vhost config for aegir doesnt seem to be getting passed to settings.php
[05:45:22]<Tila>:(
[05:45:41]<Tila>anyone know what could cause this to occur?
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[05:59:06]<Tila>can someone give me the correct syntax to provision a site from command line?
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[06:05:48]<anarcat>Tila: assuming the alias is present, drush @alias provision-install
[06:07:45]<Tila>php /www_data/aegir/drush/drush.php --uri='dpadmdevl11.webi.it.ubc.ca' --root='/www_data/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.5' 'provision' 'test.drupalverf.webi.it.ubc.ca'
[06:07:45]<Tila>The drush command 'provision test.drupalverf.webi.it.ubc.ca' could not be found.
[06:07:51]<Tila>thats what i get
[06:07:54]<Tila>when i try
[06:08:44]<Tila>am i doing it wrong :P
[06:09:55]<anarcat>er
[06:09:59]<anarcat>how do you get that?
[06:10:18]<Tila>someone earlier told me to try that
[06:10:25]<Tila>new to this
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[06:12:45]<Tila>is that not right?
[06:13:19]<Tila>the problem im having is that everything aegir just queues
[06:13:32]<Tila>and not does not get provisioned or deleted or anything
[06:14:20]<anarcat>that is not right
[06:14:37]<anarcat>it looks like your cronjob isn't setup properly
[06:14:38]<Tila>okie, could you teach me the correct way please?
[06:14:49]<anarcat>what platform is this?
[06:14:52]<anarcat>how did you install aegir?
[06:14:59]<Tila>through the script
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[06:15:06]<anarcat>which script?
[06:15:22]<Tila>ls -al
[06:15:26]<Tila>oh woops
[06:15:30]<Tila>wrong window :P
[06:15:59]<Tila>SHELL=/bin/bash
[06:15:59]<Tila>PATH=/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/www_data/aegir/bin:/www_data/aegir/drush
[06:15:59]<Tila>*/1 * * * * /usr/bin/php /www_data/aegir/drush/drush.php --php='/usr/bin/php' '@hostmaster' hosting-dispatch --root='/www_data/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.5' --uri=dpadmdevl11.webi.it.ubc.ca
[06:15:59]<Tila>*/1 * * * * (php '/www_config/scripts/cron.php')
[06:16:05]<Tila>thats how my cron looks
[06:16:19]<anarcat>14:15:06 <@anarcat> which script?
[06:16:25]<Tila>ohh
[06:16:27]<anarcat>and what operating system is this please
[06:16:43]<Tila>upgrade.sh
[06:16:54]<Tila>from drupal-6.19
[06:17:03]<Tila>redhat
[06:17:08]<Tila>5
[06:17:08]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/5 => Support => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[06:17:24]<anarcat>upgrade.sh is how you upgraded..
[06:17:32]<Tila>yes
[06:17:33]<anarcat>you are not being very clear
[06:17:39]<anarcat>are you saying the queue is broken since the upgrade?
[06:17:43]<Tila>yes
[06:17:54]<Tila>sorry i dont know how to explain it
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[06:18:15]<anarcat>it's okay
[06:18:22]<anarcat>what version did you upgrade from?
[06:18:26]<anarcat>what version did you upgrade to?
[06:19:32]<Tila>i upgraded to hostmaster-6x1.5
[06:19:42]<Tila>and from hmmz lemme check
[06:20:35]<Tila>aegir 0.4
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[06:22:15]<Tila>does that help?
[06:32:23]<Tila>any ideas on how i can fix my cron?
[06:34:13]<anarcat>wow, ok, that's huge
[06:34:25]<anarcat>well, you need to run hosting-dispatch with --debug
[06:36:50]<anarcat>Met4physica: http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/migrate-sites-one-aegir-another
[06:40:13]<Tila>okay did
[06:40:30]<Tila>it ran successfully and reinstalled the cron
[06:41:04]<Tila>http://pastebin.com/HsyjqJAg
[06:41:14]<Tila>here is my output
[06:41:52]<Tila>queue still doesnt seem to work
[06:48:26]<anarcat>i need the output of hosting-dispatch (or better: hosting-tasks) with --debug
[06:48:37]<anarcat>so /usr/bin/php /www_data/aegir/drush/drush.php --php='/usr/bin/php' '@hostmaster' hosting-tasks --debug
[06:48:38]<Tila>i did
[06:48:44]<Tila>okk
[06:48:44]<Tila>k
[06:48:59]<anarcat>no you did hosting-setup (which is good too)
[06:49:55]<Tila>http://pastebin.com/7mPzBLP2
[06:49:59]<Tila>there ya go :)
[06:50:07]<Tila>thank you for your help btw
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[06:57:32]<Tila>any thoughts?
[06:58:24]<anarcat>well, the queue looks empty from here
[06:58:31]<anarcat>maybe the hostmaster alias isn't correct
[06:58:44]<anarcat>try drush @hostmaster provision-verify to regenerate the apache configuration and all
[06:59:52]<Tila>k it completed
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[07:02:27]<Tila>when you say hostmaster-alias
[07:02:33]<Tila>what do you mean by that exactly?
[07:02:46]<Tila>the alias of the server?
[07:05:19]<anarcat>the alias is "@foo"
[07:05:24]<anarcat>in this case it's "@hostmaster"
[07:05:27]<anarcat>it's a drush alias
[07:05:45]<anarcat>it makes it so you don't have to type stuff like --root='/www_data/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.5' --uri=dpadmdevl11.webi.it.ubc.ca anymore
[07:06:04]<anarcat>am i reading this right that ubc.ca is using aegir btw? :)
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[07:08:10]<Tila>yes
[07:08:16]<Tila>for drupal
[07:09:02]<Tila>:P
[07:09:38]<Tila>yeah no matter what i do
[07:09:41]<Tila>inside aegir
[07:09:43]<Tila>nothing happens
[07:10:33]<anarcat>Tila: if there are items in the queue in the frontend, you should see them in the backend when you run hosting-tasks
[07:11:45]<Tila>well i just created a new site
[07:11:48]<Tila>through aegir
[07:11:52]<Tila>but backend shows nada
[07:12:01]<Tila>and it just sits in the queue one the frontend
[07:12:19]<Tila>click on view says waiting to processed
[07:12:30]<Tila>and if i run the cron manually
[07:12:34]<Tila>it says successful
[07:12:37]<Tila>but nothing happens
[07:12:52]<anarcat>well, the frontend cron has nothing to do with the backend cron
[07:13:05]<Tila>okay that would explain some things then
[07:13:06]<Tila>:P
[07:13:10]<anarcat>second, it looks like your frontend site and backend @hostmaster are not connected
[07:13:21]<Tila>okay
[07:13:27]<Tila>so how do i go about fixing this?
[07:13:39]<anarcat>i suspect that your @hostmaster alias is not pointing to the same site you're seeing in your browser, in other words
[07:13:44]<anarcat>well, provision-verify should fix it
[07:13:48]<anarcat>but maybe there's a deeper problem
[07:13:53]<anarcat>try apachectl -S
[07:13:58]<anarcat>to see which domains are defined where
[07:14:12]<anarcat>what's the url of the page you're seeing the queue on?
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[07:14:49]<Tila>http://dpadmdevl11.webi.it.ubc.ca/hosting/sites
[07:14:59]<Tila>you wont be able to get to it from outside our network
[07:16:38]<anarcat>right
[07:16:59]<anarcat>Tila: now, look in apachectl -S, find that virtual host configuration file
[07:17:03]<anarcat>find the DocumentRoot
[07:17:15]<anarcat>and compare with the publish_path of the platform in the alias in ~/.drush/hostmaster.*
[07:18:50]<Tila>oh you know what i found
[07:18:55]<Tila>the db credentials are wrong
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[07:23:18]<Tila>hmmz i cant seemd to find the hostmaster alias file
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[07:24:23]<anarcat>Tila: look in /var/aegir/.drush/hostmaster*
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[07:26:06]<Tila>k found
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[07:26:37]<Tila>looks correct
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[07:27:37]<Tila><?php
[07:27:37]<Tila>$aliases['hostmaster'] = array (
[07:27:37]<Tila> 'context_type' => 'site',
[07:27:37]<Tila> 'platform' => '@platform_hostmaster6x15',
[07:27:37]<Tila> 'server' => '@server_master',
[07:27:37]<Tila> 'db_server' => '@server_localhost',
[07:27:38]<Tila> 'uri' => 'dpadmdevl11.webi.it.ubc.ca',
[07:27:38]<Tila> 'root' => '/www_data/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.5',
[07:27:38]<Tila> 'site_path' => '/www_data/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.5/sites/dpadmdevl11.webi.it.ubc.ca',
[07:27:39]<Tila> 'site_enabled' => true,
[07:27:39]<Tila> 'language' => 'en',
[07:27:40]<Tila> 'client_name' => 'admin',
[07:29:03]<halcyonCorsair>Tila: use pastebin or something for many lines of text
[07:29:41]<Tila>sorry
[07:32:35]<Tila>okay
[07:32:53]<Tila>so you know that variable @server_master and @server_localhost
[07:32:58]<Tila>inside those files
[07:33:05]<Tila>it has the old aegir stuff
[07:33:08]<Tila>could that be why?
[07:34:23]<halcyonCorsair>Tila: darthsteven is your best bet as he wrote the aegir migration stuff
[07:39:57]<Tila>i see
[07:40:08]<Tila>anacrat has been quite helpful so far :)
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[07:45:34]<anarcat>Tila: yes, it could be why
[07:45:39]<anarcat>all those aliases need to be properly setup
[07:46:03]<anarcat>anything beginning with a @ is an alias in ~/.drush
[07:46:09]<anarcat>so make sure all those pieces are set right
[07:46:18]<Tila>yeah i think thats where our problem is
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[07:46:30]<Tila>thank you soooo much for your help anarcat
[07:46:55]<Tila>hopefully
[07:46:58]<Tila>once i get that fixed
[07:47:02]<Tila>it works *finger crossed*
[07:50:22]<anarcat>cool!
[07:50:23]<anarcat>good luck
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[07:54:09]<Tila>is there any easy way to recreate a new servermaster alias?
[07:54:24]<Tila>err regenerate it
[07:56:43]<anarcat>Tila: same as the rest: drush @server_master provision-verify
[07:56:54]<anarcat>although
[07:57:05]<anarcat>that will regenerated the config files based on the alias, probably not what you meant there, sorry
[07:57:14]<anarcat>to generate the alias files, you need to use the provision-save command
[07:58:07]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/41
[07:58:14]<anarcat>drush provision-save @server_master --...
[07:58:18]<anarcat>you need to copy all the arguments, iirc
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[08:31:02]<JoJo___>Hi all
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[08:31:50]<JoJo___>Would someone mind helping with a permissions problem?
[08:34:57]<alfthecat>hi all! I have a question about hosting. I currently using a vps which runs aegir perfectly fine. Itś cheap too, just 38usd/mo. But, something like Rackspace looks appealing in the longer term (should I require more servers in more locations.) With rackspace, you pay for what you use. Is this a disadvantage, for Aegir is running cron every minute so the server would be pretty much active all the time and even though the bandwith is cheap, with clo
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[08:38:02]<mig5>alfthecat: 'paying for what you use' doesn't really work like that at rackspace
[08:38:07]<mig5>if your server is *on*, you are paying for it
[08:38:13]<mig5>doesn't matter how frequent cron is running..
[08:38:32]<mig5>in fact even if your server is off at rackspace, you're paying for it. if you delete the server, you stop paying for it.
[08:40:03]<alfthecat>ah ok, thx. Do you have any recommendations in terms of choosing a good hoster for an Aegir setup? I would like to somehow keep my overhead relative to the number of sites that are running.
[08:42:05]<mig5>i use rackspace and linode.
[08:42:40]<mig5>if the costs are too expensive, then you'll need to raise your rates :) i don't think you'll find a VPS provider who'll charge you based on how frequently cron etc is running
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[08:44:04]<alfthecat>lol no I assume not :) It´s more the bandwith I´d like to have flexibility in. Thanks a lot, this definetely cleared up my rackspace question :)
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[08:49:45]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: when do you choose rackspace over linode or vice-versa?
[08:54:01]<JoJo___>When attempting to edit package components in a platform and navigating to the edit tab - admin user has permission denied - is this normal?
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[09:01:35]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: depending on whether it's a long term (linode) or short term (rackspace), and also when I want only a 256MB machine (rackspace)
[09:01:50]<mig5>and when i want to monitor a machine at linode, i'd perhaps put nagios at rackspace, and vice versa
[09:02:09]<mig5>though that's moot - i have my nagios servers at neither org :) because most of my stuff that matters, is at those orgs
[09:02:36]<mig5>i use Gandi in Paris, and also ArpNetworks in california
[09:02:54]<mig5>but i quite like rackspace cloud, so don't get the wrong impression
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[09:03:35]<mig5>JoJo___: yes, you're not meant to edit packages in the aegir interface
[09:03:38]<mig5>so that's by design
[09:03:47]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: rackspace short term because of pricing, or?
[09:03:56]<mig5>bad things can happen if you could submit the node form of a package type, so hence we don't allow it
[09:04:13]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: yep. if oyu remove a linode, they jsut credit your account, because you paid for the whole month or more already
[09:04:35]<mig5>rackspace is by the hour, so it can be ideal. for example: every commit to the aegir project, fires off a jenkins job that builds a machine and installs aegir on it, then tests
[09:04:46]<mig5>we use rackspace for that coz we tear the machine down at the end, and it cost a couple cents maybe
[09:05:19]<mig5>i also have long term rackspace cloud servers too. so it's not that clear cut for me, i decide at the time
[09:05:42]<mig5>don't like having all my eggs in one basket.
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[09:07:31]<JoJo___>thank you. so platforms that are created with drush_make files should be branched by creating a new platform with a modified makefile and then migrating the sites on that platform to the new updated platform?
[09:08:22]<mig5>yep
[09:09:01]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: and libcloud keeps you trucking along pretty much everywhere?
[09:09:06]<JoJo___>thank you. i really appreciate the work you have done. i hope to be able to give back in the future
[09:09:10]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: yep!
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[09:12:42]<JoJo___>i just noticed that platforms also have a migrate function. does that mean that sites belonging to that platform will also migrate if migrate the platform they are built from?
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[09:15:26]<mig5>JoJo___: yes that's for 'batch' migrations of all sites on that platform to a new target platform
[09:15:37]<mig5>mainly useful if you have many sites on a platform
[09:15:56]<JoJo___>i see - a white knuckled migration...ha
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[09:27:07]<Tila>i fixed my server_master file stuff
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[09:27:14]<Tila>but my aegir queue still doesnt do anything
[09:27:31]<Tila>and provision verify went through with the new stuff
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[09:36:30]<Tila>nothing in my task queue shows up in the backend its soo wierd
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[10:19:57]<Tila>can someone tell me why this is happening
[10:19:58]<Tila>http://pastebin.com/18HNZuLX
[10:19:59]<Tila>please
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