IRC logs for #aegir, 2012-01-12 (GMT)

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[12:05:55]<Met4physica>my BOA upgrade to the 2.x version was smooth
[12:06:00]<Met4physica>i am very happy in general overall
[12:06:03]<Met4physica>thanks thanks thanks
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[12:21:54]<Mac_Weber>Met4physica: I'm testing it on a 256M RAM server =D
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[12:50:32]<sdboyer>anarcat: ping
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[12:50:51]<sdboyer>or most anyone, really...
[12:51:05]<sdboyer>want to clarify best practices on drush make files/repos
[12:52:46]<sdboyer>clearly you don't *have* to have the profile colocated with the makefile itself, but it seems that the requirements for building a distro on d.o have encouraged people to adopt that practice
[12:53:21]<sdboyer>i'm curious, though, if it's just d.o, or if aegir has any similar such expectations about makefiles being colocated with install profiles
[12:54:25]<sdboyer>imo it creates an uncomfortable mixing of layers - drush make files are really intended for your build system (which should be colocated with system-level tests, build and deployment scripts, and the like)
[12:54:44]<sdboyer>vs. profile info, which is drupal-internal configuration info
[12:55:09]<omega8cc>sdboyer: makefile and install profile are two different things, so I don't think there is any reason to have it in a one place
[12:55:11]<sdboyer>it's build system vs. application-level logic
[12:55:16]<omega8cc>sdboyer: exactly
[12:55:18]<anarcat>sdboyer: pong
[12:55:24]<sdboyer>omega8cc: cool, glad you agree :)
[12:55:45]<sdboyer>so i guess it's not actually a *requirement* enforced by d.o or anything, but it seems like an increasingly common practice
[12:55:56]<anarcat>it not a requirement in aegir at all
[12:55:58]<sdboyer>see for example openoutreach, openpublic
[12:56:02]<sdboyer>anarcat: cool
[12:56:07]<anarcat>although i do believe there's an unfortunate overlap between the two
[12:56:19]<anarcat>i would like to see makefiles deprecated in favor of install profiles
[12:56:37]<anarcat>basically, all the .make functionality should be factored into install profile's .info files
[12:56:50]<anarcat>so then makefiles would juste be a special case of an install profile
[12:57:20]<anarcat>... that doesn't necessarily need to install a drupal site, but specify dependencies and so on
[12:57:26]<anarcat>versionned dependencies while i'm at it
[12:57:31]<sdboyer>anarcat: interesting, i like the distinction and would prefer to see it made stronger
[12:58:14]<sdboyer>b/c for the occupy case we're working on, we need system-level selenium & rspec tests, as well as additional build logic, which go hand-in-hand with the makefile
[12:58:14]<anarcat>i think it is a problem because it unnecessarily duplicates information
[12:58:18]<sdboyer>though i could see it either way
[12:58:20]<sdboyer>yeah that's true
[12:58:41]<sdboyer>someday, once the occupy stuff is running a bit more on its own, i'll be able to get back to dog :)
[12:58:46]<anarcat>i like the distinction too, but for me the distinction exists in install profiles too: you have the .info (specs) and the .profile (code)
[12:58:50]<anarcat>hehe :)
[12:58:58]<anarcat>i am sorry we didn't get to talk in nyc
[12:59:05]<sdboyer>yeah that's fair
[12:59:06]<anarcat>i would have liked to hear about the occuppy stuff
[12:59:38]<sdboyer>yeah, woulda liked to tell you. though at this point it's pretty clear we won't be using aegir for the central hosting system, so it's less crucial from our end anyway :)
[12:59:42]<sdboyer>you see the wired article?
[13:00:12]<anarcat>no, i didnt
[13:00:32]<sdboyer>(we need to be able to bundle more than just a drupal site - e.g., provisioning PuSH hubs, queue systems, etc. alongside the drupal instance, so we're going with full-on cfg mgmt)
[13:01:05]<sdboyer>the title is cutesy but it gets a lot of it across: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/occupy-facebook/
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[14:25:01]<snufft>hi guys!
[14:25:38]<snufft>can anyone tell me what the default address of aegir is? I installed it quite a few months ago, but then had to do other things and have just come back to it... this will be the first time i've actually run it :P
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[14:26:57]<mig5>snufft: it's different for everyone..
[14:27:24]<mig5>look in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/ and find ServerName in the relevant config..
[14:27:54]<snufft>mig5: alright, the first worrying thing is that there's no aegir folder in var haha
[14:28:47]<snufft>mig5: i've gotta go for a meeting *sigh* i'll get back into it when i get back :)
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[16:16:45]<snufft>i've uninstalled and reinstalled aegir and am getting a 404 on PHP. has anyone else had that problem recently?
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[02:27:30]<jlhenry>Here is a little script to reset files permissions/ownership in aegir directory structure: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/77/talk#comment-1269
[02:27:56]<jlhenry>Feel free to comment, or make improvements to it ;)
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[02:39:35]<jlhenry>How can I add/edit alias from the command line?
[02:42:51]<jlhenry>I mean domain aliases.
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[03:23:08]<mvc>jlhenry: provision-save can be used to add aliases to ~/.drush/mysite.com.alias.drushrc.php
[03:23:25]<mvc>(actually, it resets the list of aliases, so whatever you had there before would be wiped out)
[03:26:02]<mvc>but provision-verify and hosting-import don't seem to update the frontend with those new aliases
[03:26:23]<jlhenry>:(
[03:26:30]<mvc>i've resorted to manually editing the site nodes
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[03:26:36]<mvc>i'd love to hear a better way, though
[03:27:03]<jlhenry>I need something that will replicate inside the frontend, and inside Apache configuration (and/or symbolic links creation).
[03:27:29]<jlhenry>Thanks for your answer :)
[03:27:46]<mvc>yep, that was exactly what i wanted to do earlier this week :/
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[04:03:53]<mUsthAVE>hi
[04:03:53]<hefring>bonjour
[04:04:40]<mUsthAVE>i mean i have seen for times..not so long a project page on drupal.org with the name agier
[04:04:56]<mUsthAVE>this was an full install for agier
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[04:05:07]<mUsthAVE>i can´t found it yet
[04:05:12]<mUsthAVE>any help?
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[04:11:43]<omega8cc>mUsthAVE: hmm, you mean boa maybe? http://groups.drupal.org/boa
[04:14:08]<mUsthAVE>omega8cc...i look...it was on a Nginx server mean all was pre configured
[04:15:15]<omega8cc>hefring: tell AquaticDisorder: thanks for the heads up: http://drupal.org/node/1394468
[04:15:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1394468 => Atrium members access mode bug => Open Atrium, Code, normal, needs review, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[04:15:18]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when AquaticDisorder is around.
[04:16:02]<omega8cc>mUsthAVE: right, you can find there a links to Barracuda and Octopus projects - in the group header
[04:16:13]<mUsthAVE>thx
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