IRC logs for #aegir, 2012-01-25 (GMT)

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[12:43:32]<HaloFX>Any thoughts on why I get the following error after provision-deploy runs on a remote server Clone or Migrate?
[12:43:34]<HaloFX>The external command could not be executed due to an application error.
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[12:44:47]<HaloFX>The task will continue on, but eventually fail with something like:
[12:45:04]<HaloFX>require_once(/var/aegir/drupal710/sites/site.com/modules/context/plugins/context_condition_path.inc): failed to open stream: No such file or directory bootstrap.inc:2982
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[12:50:48]<omega8cc>HaloFX: this is expected when you are using site specific space for modules, see: http://drupal.org/node/1409918#comment-5495318
[12:50:48]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1409918 => Verify, backup work; Clone, migrate fail => Octopus, Miscellaneous, normal, active, 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[12:54:07]<omega8cc>HaloFX: the exact problem is that site's cache/registry is not rebuild before the include fails as the files are already in the new site's path only
[12:54:52]<HaloFX>omega8cc: Thanks. I didn't have trouble with this until about 4-6 months ago. It only happens on the remote, never on the local.
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[12:55:57]<omega8cc>HaloFX: it happens also on local, and often, when you migrate or clone the site in the same hostmaster instance
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[12:56:34]<omega8cc>HaloFX: the issue I linked above is an example of this local-fail
[12:57:31]<HaloFX>I have been working around it by disabling Context, Rules and Entity. Wasn't big deal until I started working with Commerce. Now all of Commerce has to be disabled, which is a pain.
[12:58:25]<omega8cc>yeah, it is better to always use sites/all space to avoid this, at least mostly
[12:59:54]<HaloFX>Context, Rules and Entity are common enough to move. Guess I may have to start using a separate platform for Commerce.
[13:01:55]<omega8cc>HaloFX: why not to keep all modules shared between profiles on the same platform in sites/all and profile specific in profiles/name/modules? you don't need duplication probably, if possible
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[13:03:54]<HaloFX>omega8cc: I don't use profile much, but perhaps I should?
[13:04:56]<HaloFX>omega8cc: Any Gotchas to deploying Barracuda for use as a remote server to another Barracuda install? Anything to worry about beyond disabling Aegir on the remote?
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[13:08:28]<omega8cc>HaloFX: you can use two or more remote Barracuda + Octopus servers and migrate sites head-to-head now, not just in the master/slave setup, but even for Aegir standard master/slave setup you can use it without issues, and some people do it in production (we don't)
[13:09:13]<HaloFX>omega8cc: Do you mean the mesh model is working?
[13:09:59]<omega8cc>HaloFX: kinda, for head-to-head stuff see: http://drupal.org/node/1407800#comment-5495392
[13:10:00]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1407800 => Multiserver feature for BOA satellite user? => Octopus, Miscellaneous, normal, needs work, 5 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[13:11:33]<omega8cc>HaloFX: darthsteven did this magic and we are already using it in production
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[13:14:57]<HaloFX>omega8cc: Is Octopus required in this equation?
[13:15:34]<omega8cc>HaloFX: no, it can be just Barracuda -> Barracuda
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[13:16:42]<HaloFX>omega8cc: Without a remote between them? Very cool! Something new to play with and/or blow up!
[13:17:00]<omega8cc>HaloFX: but we are using it to migrate entire Octopus instances between remote machines/locations
[13:17:17]<omega8cc>HaloFX: yeah, it is really awesome stuff!
[13:18:50]<HaloFX>omega8cc: I had sent in a question awhile ago about using omega8cc hosting as a remote for my local Aegir master and told not yet. But with this, it should work now?
[13:18:58]<omega8cc>HaloFX: and nothing to install on the new target/head! just a proper keys and 3306 port available etc - standard how-to otherwise
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[13:21:12]<omega8cc>HaloFX: not exactly, it is possible only on Root Cores, as it requires higher level of access than allowed in non-root managed instances
[13:22:35]<omega8cc>you have to add root-level db user on the new target to be used on your local, which is not an option in the managed non-root env
[13:23:17]<omega8cc>too big security hole and mysql port open etc
[13:24:18]<omega8cc>while on Root Core you can open firewall for only specific IPs or open the access temporarily only etc
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[13:32:38]<chrowe>I am running boa and aegir migrate fails due to server load being >5
[13:33:05]<chrowe>any idea how to stop boa for caring what the server load is?
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[13:34:03]<omega8cc>HaloFX: also, since it works in the pull (not push) mode, you can't develop locally and push to hosted/server, you need to pull the site from the server side
[13:34:53]<HaloFX>omega8cc: Thanks for the clarification.
[13:35:07]<omega8cc>chrowe: sure, edit the limits in /var/xdrago/second.sh - by the way, it is a bug fixed in HEAD already
[13:35:45]<omega8cc>chrowe: look for CTL_ONEX_LOAD and CTL_FIVX_LOAD there
[13:36:01]<omega8cc>HaloFX: np
[13:36:37]<chrowe>omega8cc: thanks
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[13:37:32]<omega8cc>chrowe: fixed in http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/commit/09738fd
[13:38:22]<omega8cc>hmm, it is not exactly a fix for your issue
[13:38:37]<omega8cc>we need to find a better way
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[13:40:34]<chrowe>omega8cc: another symtom of our problem is when we migrate the process stops but the web UI spinner keeps spinning forever
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[13:42:55]<chrowe>omega8cc: is there a way to debug where it is getting stuck? not much seems to be getting reported to syslog
[13:43:26]<omega8cc>chrowe: this is because the load monitor kills running php processes, which is a bit stupid and too aggresive method to avoid system freeze
[13:44:24]<omega8cc>just remove this else: killall -9 php wget in this script
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[13:44:58]<omega8cc>really stupid, I'm going to remove it from head now
[13:46:14]<omega8cc>this never caused issues for us, because the average load is always 0.5 to 2.5 max on heavy tasks like system backup
[13:47:24]<omega8cc>so load over 8 was considered as "secure" to assume that the system is going into freeze spiral shortly etc
[13:52:56]<omega8cc>chrowe: in fact it was secure also because we don't allow any hostmaster tasks to start when the load is over 2.5, but if your system doesn't have enough resources, it can cause the high load on some big site (files) crazy tar/gz task after the task was allowed to start, so we need to improve it anyway
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[14:00:33]<chrowe>omega8cc: we are running boa in a VM on a low power processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116381
[14:05:14]<omega8cc>chrowe: I see, but you can avoid it probably by moving away any big files directory and adding a symlink only, as it is probably the reason of the high load (I think)
[14:05:42]<chrowe>omega8cc: we are using a symlinked files dir
[14:07:24]<chrowe>omega8cc: the site files are ~70M zipped w/o the files dir
[14:07:34]<omega8cc>chrowe: then it is really low-end hardware setup probably, as it didn't happen for us even on small linode with 512M ram
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[15:51:56]<chrowe>is there a special trick to setting up a symlinked files directory when using barracuda?
[15:53:07]<chrowe>we are having permissions issues migrating a site from one boa server to another
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[22:45:47]<w7u64xi7>Hello, I'll be short ... I am newbie to linux and tired of shared hosting so I rented an managed VPS hosting due to budget ... I will need 3 websites using Drupal for all.
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[22:46:28]<w7u64xi7>So where is the starting point as various tutorials from howtoforge dot com keep breaking the whole thing.
[22:47:36]<w7u64xi7>I've searched for which linux distribution to be used and found that most reviews recommending CentOS or Debian but for newbies recommending Ubutu.
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[22:48:02]<w7u64xi7>My hosting provide 1 click install for linux distribution with a root access.
[22:48:35]<w7u64xi7>so far I've read that I should install web server, mysql, php phpmyadmin
[22:48:45]<w7u64xi7>and secure the vps as possible
[22:49:04]<w7u64xi7>but honestly I can not make the full thing done
[22:49:27]<w7u64xi7>so I've came across this project during google so please advise
[22:49:48]<w7u64xi7>also using webhosting backend control panel is advised or not?
[22:52:22]<halcyonCorsair>w7u64xi7: i would suggest ubuntu, but i would also suggest possibly hiring some help, or at least reading the tutorials on community.aegirproject.org
[22:54:18]<w7u64xi7>hiring someone is not an option due to expensive costs (I understand that experienced people deserved the money they asking for but it is my side problem leak of money).
[22:54:59]<w7u64xi7>the most important thing I love when I read about this project is the automation settings for the whole thing.
[22:56:32]<w7u64xi7>but does there is a simple tutorials to follow in a copy-and-paste formate to do the whole thing where I can follow and learn?
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[22:58:10]<w7u64xi7>and my websites will use drupal cores only
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[23:02:33]<w7u64xi7>for a brand new vps clean and fresh with ubuntu ... where is the starting point?
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[23:07:38]<w7u64xi7>while following the tutorial here: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400
[23:07:39]<w7u64xi7>and when I enter commands in the putty I get an error:
[23:07:58]<w7u64xi7>-bash: command not found
[23:08:26]<w7u64xi7>and this is exactly the same thing I used to get when I follow tutorials from howtoforge dot com
[23:08:31]<w7u64xi7>:(
[23:09:45]<w7u64xi7>also does there is Automatic install on Ubuntu?
[23:10:28]<w7u64xi7>sorry if it seems that I am spamming the channel but it is just I can not find my way out
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[23:12:37]<halcyonCorsair>w7u64xi7: if you don't have any linux knowledge, then doing it yourself may take you quite a long time
[23:13:55]<halcyonCorsair>w7u64xi7: the instructions on that page are pretty clear
[23:13:57]<w7u64xi7>halcyonCorsair: Thanks for replying but I do not know any one who may help and when I asked my hosting for support they asked for 450 usd which is a fortune for me.
[23:14:44]<w7u64xi7>I am using Ubuntu as most advised for newbies and this one is for Debian.
[23:15:02]<w7u64xi7>So if there is a one for Ubuntu that would be awesome.
[23:15:28]<w7u64xi7>I am planning to rebuild and screw the VPS till I get it done and work the right way.
[23:15:32]<halcyonCorsair>in this case the instructions would be the same, what part is saying 'command not found'? can you paste output to pastebin.com
[23:20:47]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: maybe try Barracuda installer then? http://drupal.org/project/barracuda
[23:21:50]<omega8cc>then Octopus and have it done under one hour
[23:21:59]<w7u64xi7>you mean to start with this one 1st ?
[23:22:23]<w7u64xi7>then get back to aegir?
[23:23:05]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: Barracuda and Octopus install Aegir for you, it is complete server setup, ready to use
[23:23:49]<w7u64xi7>From scratch?
[23:24:15]<w7u64xi7>I mean after I click reinstall operating system for the vps I get a brand new one.
[23:24:16]<omega8cc>yep, you just need minimal OS on the VPS, no services installed, just ssh
[23:24:25]<omega8cc>right
[23:24:40]<omega8cc>just make sure it is minimal install
[23:24:51]<omega8cc>without Apache, MySQL etc
[23:26:04]<w7u64xi7>yes it is without any thing
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[23:27:42]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: plus, to avoid issues, make sure it is something based on Xen and not Virtuozzo/OpenVZ, and Debian Squeeze is recommended OS
[23:28:41]<w7u64xi7>I do not mean to advertise, but my hosting is from www dot buyvm dot net
[23:29:08]<w7u64xi7>it is the 2048 / 4096 plan
[23:29:18]<w7u64xi7>and it is using OpenVZ
[23:30:02]<w7u64xi7>The guy just sent me an email telling that they taking my node offline to upgrade to debian so I think it is based on debian
[23:31:56]<w7u64xi7>this is the full details he told me about the system when I asked him http://dpaste.com/693059/
[23:33:10]<w7u64xi7>so is it ok?
[23:34:56]<w7u64xi7>omega8cc: .
[23:35:41]<w7u64xi7>also as I mentioned above that I am using Ubuntu as recommended by too many here and in other places.
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[23:37:54]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: Ubuntu could work just fine, but we use and recommend Debian
[23:38:45]<w7u64xi7>all I care about is the tutorials existence so I can follow and ask for help
[23:38:52]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: however OpenZV/Virtuozzo causes too many issues for Drupal as most hosts have it not configured properly, so you should avoid it
[23:39:04]<w7u64xi7>Ok, I will reinstall the OS using debian 6 32bit
[23:39:56]<w7u64xi7>which un managed vps using xen you are advising with here
[23:40:12]<w7u64xi7>Hope something not expensive !:(
[23:40:45]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: see: http://drupal.org/node/1392020, Linode is a popular choice for Xen based vps and works fine
[23:40:46]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1392020 => Memory issues with Virtuozzo/OpenVZ => Barracuda, Miscellaneous, normal, closed (won't fix), 18 comments, 1 IRC mention
[23:41:27]<w7u64xi7>what is the hell with that linode thing
[23:41:41]<w7u64xi7>each place I went they mentioned it
[23:41:51]<omega8cc>http://www.linode.com
[23:41:52]<w7u64xi7>why is it so special
[23:42:01]<w7u64xi7>Yes this green website
[23:42:28]<w7u64xi7>is it that good that much?
[23:43:01]<w7u64xi7>I mean to go for it without hesitations ?
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[23:44:06]<omega8cc>it is popular, with long track record, they have really good control panel, reliable etc
[23:44:28]<w7u64xi7>ok, I will sign up for an account now
[23:45:02]<omega8cc>in contrast to *horrible* crap from vps.net
[23:47:02]<w7u64xi7>Linode 512 ?
[23:47:35]<w7u64xi7>also if any one can pass a coupon that would be awesome
[23:48:12]<mig5>the coupon doesn't give you a discount
[23:48:19]<mig5>it benefits the one who gave the coupon
[23:50:34]<w7u64xi7>mig5: what does this milk note mean !?
[23:50:51]<w7u64xi7>I was trying to complete your nickname and it typed milk
[23:51:07]<w7u64xi7>is it a special settings you did ?
[23:53:43]<omega8cc>mig5: hey, some people wish that we will replicate Pantheon ;)
[23:54:27]<mig5>hehe
[23:54:37]<omega8cc>here: http://drupal.org/node/1416058
[23:54:37]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1416058 => dev, test, prod problems and a working solution => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[23:54:39]<mig5>Pantheon is simpler
[23:54:52]<mig5>it has the luxury of not having to cater to the whole community
[23:54:53]<omega8cc>yeah, *much* simpler
[23:55:09]<omega8cc>yep
[23:55:09]<mig5>i thought about reverse engineering it as an opensource tool :)
[23:55:14]<mig5>host-your-own
[23:55:15]<omega8cc>hehe
[23:55:25]<mig5>so don't have to care so much about Twisted and clustered filesystem etc
[23:55:48]<mig5>actually i built something like this for a client over the last few months
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[23:55:55]<mig5>it's not aegir powered, just jenkins and fabric
[23:56:16]<mig5>but oyu fill in a form, BAM you get 3 servers, dev, stage and live, all tracked by jenkins from the git repo as branches
[23:56:20]<mig5>it works well in a simple way
[23:56:43]<mig5>but even pantheon has the same limitations as everyone else: you can't do bidirectional syncing of databases.. you have to obliterate the database in all directions
[23:56:46]<mig5>coz that's Drupal! :)
[23:57:05]<mig5>that's where everyone gets deluded, like in that ticket
[23:57:11]<mig5>'we can pull content changes (db changes) to the dev site,'
[23:57:18]<mig5>er no, you can obliterate your dev site with the production database
[23:57:40]<mig5>on your dev codebase, which means you just may be able to drush updatedb to apply changes from your new code
[23:57:44]<mig5>but you can't do it in the other direction
[23:58:07]<mig5>'then do a codebase pull to test, sync the content (db changes),' noooo, that's now how it works :(
[23:58:30]<mig5>i'll reply to that ticket some time
[00:00:39]<omega8cc>mig5: yeah, and there is no workaround w/o uuid, we managed two-way sync for big D5 based site in the past (over 500k nodes, over 3m comments, over 15k users), running dev/stage/prod in parallel for 6 months with the help of some simple bash magic on the db level directly, but what a mess it was!
[00:01:49]<mig5>yeah
[00:02:03]<mig5>so i get frustrated with the apparent 'simplicity' of pantheon as seen by these users.
[00:02:07]<mig5>don't get me wrong, it's great
[00:02:08]<omega8cc>we simply bumped all nids etc in dev and stage to be way ahead of those on prod
[00:02:12]<mig5>but the simplicity is in the usability, thei nterface
[00:02:26]<mig5>take that away and it's battlign with the same problems as the rest of us
[00:03:07]<mig5>i don't think aegir will ever be an opensource pantheon clone as it got too complex. but maybe something aegir-inspired will develop, with more limited, specific goals, like pantheon, but opensource
[00:03:34]<mig5>maybe even a fork, still using provision but with a dumbed down interface
[00:03:43]<omega8cc>yeah, I finally got my code and was able to see it inside, and it is a spartan thing
[00:04:19]<mig5>i want that valhalla filesystem :)
[00:04:25]<omega8cc>hehe
[00:04:57]<omega8cc>this is Apple-like secret, I think ;)
[00:05:10]<w7u64xi7>I will not host files to be downloaded but just want the most responsive websites and ping, which data centers to choose?
[00:06:52]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: basically where your expected visitors/users are
[00:07:04]<w7u64xi7>middle east
[00:07:06]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: i'm rewriting the crap out of your aegir_cid scripts to work with our stuff at work...and its making me cry
[00:07:20]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: not your stuff....our stuff :'(
[00:07:57]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: then London probably?
[00:09:18]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: haha
[00:09:52]<mig5>you must have a very specialised setup.. one man's (or woman's) aegir ought to be the same as another's
[00:10:19]* mig5 goin to bed o/
[00:10:27]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: this isn't for our aegir stuff, this is for elsewhere. and i think crying is always involved when dealing with debian packages for website deployment
[00:10:40]<w7u64xi7>so, go for Debian 6 32bit , final answer?
[00:11:08]<w7u64xi7>or ubuntu
[00:11:18]<w7u64xi7>websites will be on drupal only
[00:11:28]<w7u64xi7>mostl the core 7 only
[00:11:31]<w7u64xi7>mostly*
[00:11:45]<omega8cc>Debian 6
[00:11:57]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: ah right. yeah
[00:12:06]<mig5>but an Exec in puppet is so much worse than a Package :)
[00:12:21]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: fabric or even cap would be so much better
[00:12:38]<mig5>i tend to agree
[00:12:41]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: still i figure start slow, get them on ZTD for staging and move from there...
[00:13:01]<omega8cc>mig5: have a good night then!
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[00:13:48]<w7u64xi7>Deployment Disk Size is 19968 - Swap Disk is 512
[00:13:48]<w7u64xi7>ok?
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[00:16:31]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: just a note, while we are trying to help you as much as we can, this is not a place for basic unix admin assistance etc. you can find it on Linode forums, I think
[00:17:35]<w7u64xi7>I am sorry for Spam or bothering but honestly this is the 1st place to find nice people helping in such a way
[00:17:37]<w7u64xi7>:(
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[00:18:36]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: np, it is only because we couldn't discuss/support everything here
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[00:18:55]<w7u64xi7>I understand
[00:23:34]<w7u64xi7>mig5: I've you mentioned here:
[00:23:35]<w7u64xi7>http://www.slideshare.net/hectoriribarne/step-bystep-installation-guide-...
[00:23:51]<w7u64xi7>This is the place where I know about the whole project
[00:25:22]<w7u64xi7>I got help from mig5 on IRC: #drupal-aegir irc://irc.freenode.net/aegir
[00:25:33]<w7u64xi7>you are famous enough ;)
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[00:29:41]<w7u64xi7>in this slide it says to update the server 1st and in the other tutorials in drupal it says to run on a vanilla OS
[00:29:46]<w7u64xi7>advise.
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[00:45:22]<w7u64xi7>so when linode is ready I should follow steps as mentioned here:
[00:45:22]<w7u64xi7>http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/INSTALL.txt
[00:45:25]<w7u64xi7>right?
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[01:08:05]<w7u64xi7>?
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[01:11:55]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: yes
[01:12:07]<w7u64xi7>thanks bro
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[01:14:07]<w7u64xi7>please if there is any advises to take into consideration while doing the whole thing that would be much appreciated.
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[01:37:41]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7: if you will have any issues, please always check Barracuda/Octopus issue queue and group on g.d.o, as listed on the project page
[01:38:08]<w7u64xi7>ok my friend
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[04:12:04]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc: is it possible to host a non drupal site after installing boa? if so, how to?
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[04:18:35]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: sure, just place it in /var/www and use the Chive vhost from /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d/ as a template
[04:19:48]<cmcintosh>im loving this multi server deal
[04:20:31]<cmcintosh>got me a production server rolling on amazon, got my dev server + gitosis sitting on an in house box. and fixing to get started building my Push command center
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[04:30:08]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc++
[04:30:27]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc: thanks, I'm gonna try it right now
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[04:55:17]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc: vhost is on place. I restarted nginx, but I'm still getting 404. How to enable the vhost?
[04:57:39]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: it is automatically enabled if you reloaded nginx, if you have issues, please open an issue in the Barracuda queue with more details, maybe you need to adjust rewrites in the custom copy of config included file for your app, no idea now
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[05:00:37]<w7u64xi7_>pLEASE i AM NOW in the part DNS MANUAL CONFIG of the file and confused how to update the entries
[05:01:58]<w7u64xi7_>Example:
[05:01:58]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_OWNIP=192.168.0.108
[05:01:58]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_HOSTN=server.mydomain.com
[05:01:58]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_FRONT=aegir.mydomain.com
[05:02:00]<w7u64xi7_>this means to be replaced with my own data, right?
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[05:02:47]<w7u64xi7_>shall i remove the "" or to keep it?
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[05:03:03]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_OWNIP=""
[05:03:03]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_HOSTN=""
[05:03:03]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_FRONT=""
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[05:04:53]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_OWNIP=178.79.152.59
[05:04:53]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_HOSTN=server.julaybib.com
[05:04:53]<w7u64xi7_>_MY_FRONT=aegir.julaybib.com
[05:05:01]<w7u64xi7_>is this the right format?
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[05:11:21]<w7u64xi7_>how to save the modified file at the end
[05:11:32]<w7u64xi7_>Esc - : - Wq
[05:11:36]<w7u64xi7_>does not work for me
[05:12:22]<mvc>w7u64xi7_: you should probably either try :wq or a simpler text editor :)
[05:12:29]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc: reloading aegir I'm getting: nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" on 0.0.0.0:80, ignored
[05:13:47]<w7u64xi7_>when I hit :wq and Enter Key it is jumping to the new line
[05:15:19]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7_: please don't flood, search the issue queue and submit your issue there according to bug submission guidelines
[05:15:49]<mvc>w7u64xi7_: you still need Esc first. but more than that you need a basic vim tutorial, which isn't what this channel is for
[05:17:21]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: this is safe to skip (not critical) but you should search and remove duplicate entries in vhosts - it is a known issue in Aegir on clone/migrate - and the reason why we repeat that you should always re-verify the site after migration/clone etc
[05:18:10]<w7u64xi7_>this is a brand new website started not migrated
[05:18:43]<w7u64xi7_>it seems that i am causing a lot of troubles here
[05:18:47]<w7u64xi7_>i am sorry
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[05:19:51]<w7u64xi7_>but may u give an outline for the whole thing so i can get a better understanding
[05:19:56]<w7u64xi7_>hope u do not mind
[05:20:22]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7_: I'm afraid you need to find someone to assist you with some *really* basic things we simply can't cover here (like editing files etc.)
[05:20:28]<w7u64xi7_>and sorry for any disturbing
[05:21:48]<w7u64xi7_>ok, I will search for editing files using nano on google, but regarding the whole thing layout , may you please make it more simple to et a better understanding for the process till website up and running
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[05:30:25]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc: i took the ip address of the vhost. It is working now, but it is not using the index.html as default. Permissions are ok, and it is listed on the vhost
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[05:31:03]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: what is the issue URL? ;)
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[05:33:45]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: I mean the URL of the issue in the Barracuda queue..
[05:34:21]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: see my comment above
[05:34:40]<Mac_Weber>I'm trying to see if it's not just something retarded I'm doing on my side, before opening an issue
[05:35:20]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: no, you just need to modify standard locations a bit, it is simple, but please open an issue
[05:36:25]<omega8cc>and include more details - if the site is static html, some php maybe, or wordpress etc etc
[05:37:36]<Mac_Weber>all right
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[05:44:08]<w7u64xi7_>i did all steps from here: http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/INSTALL.txt what to do next now?
[05:45:35]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc: let me know if you need more details http://drupal.org/node/1416798
[05:45:36]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1416798 => nginx does not open index.html on custom vhost => Barracuda, Miscellaneous, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[05:46:10]<w7u64xi7_>isn't this Barracuda script should install aegir ?
[05:46:20]<w7u64xi7_>or there something i do not understand?
[05:47:02]<w7u64xi7_>i am not lazy but just guide to whrer i read
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[05:52:47]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: http://drupal.org/node/1416798#comment-5514218
[05:52:47]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1416798 => nginx does not open index.html on custom vhost => Barracuda, Miscellaneous, normal, active, 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[05:53:43]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7_: it is answered on the Barracuda project page, in short: yes, it installs Aegir
[06:07:13]<w7u64xi7_>omega8cc, please just be a little bit patient with me ... may you just tell steps for what to read?
[06:07:21]<w7u64xi7_>i do not mean to explain
[06:07:43]<w7u64xi7_>but i just mean links so i can dive in with my self and get back when i am stuck
[06:07:57]<w7u64xi7_>so i can get a better understanding
[06:08:22]<w7u64xi7_>as this project seems and looks like saving a lot of time and effort
[06:08:38]<w7u64xi7_>especially for the long run of the websites based on drupal
[06:08:44]<w7u64xi7_>u get my point ?
[06:10:00]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7_: I have no idea how to make it simpler than it is, with detailed how-to etc, sorry, you just need to edit the script as explained and run it, that is all, but of this is too hard for you, please find someone who can assist you with "Basic sysadmin skills and experience" which are listed as a requirement
[06:11:17]<omega8cc>see also Community section/link on the Barracuda project page: http://groups.drupal.org/boa
[06:12:03]<omega8cc>you can learn there a lot
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[06:15:07]<w7u64xi7_>Barracuda is the master website install and the Octopus is the websites to be installed later on?
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[06:18:28]<omega8cc>w7u64xi7_: http://drupal.org/project/barracuda + http://drupal.org/project/octopus + http://groups.drupal.org/node/200783
[06:18:29]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/200783 => Octopus purpose? => 8 comments, 3 IRC mentions
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[07:28:50]<mig5>man...
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[08:03:15]<alfthecat>mig5: was that a heavy sigh?
[08:08:55]<cmcintosh>good ole days
[08:10:28]<alfthecat>from back when we used to play outside instead of being stuck behind a computer all day
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[08:29:43]<mvc>hard to remember that far back
[08:30:28]<alfthecat>try, mvc, try.
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[08:43:26]<mig5>pretty sure i was behind a computer all day even back in the ole days :)
[08:43:33]<mig5>the joys of having a linux nerd for a dad
[08:45:19]<alfthecat>apple not rolling far from the tree?
[08:45:44]<mvc>yeah. my mom was a coder, she taught me BASIC fairly young
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[08:47:35]<alfthecat>so that's why I have trouble interpreting half of the conversations floating around here :) in a way, I'm regressing into your childhoods trying to catch up
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[08:55:58]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: ping
[08:56:19]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: hey, just a minute
[08:56:29]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: no probs
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[09:20:48]<realityloop>omega8cc: does Barracuda include http://drupal.org/project/hosting_queue_runner , or could it?
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[09:25:14]<omega8cc>realityloop: it could, but only for Barracuda master instance, so we don't use it, also, I think it is still 6.x-1.x while BOA is already on 6.x-2.x (Provision)
[09:25:52]<omega8cc>we are crazy, you know ;)
[09:26:02]<realityloop>omega8cc: we're only using Barracuda so that would be fine for us..
[09:26:15]<realityloop>barring the provision thing :)
[09:26:27]<realityloop>darthsteven: ping
[09:26:47]<omega8cc>realityloop: and porting it to 6.x-2.x should be also simple
[09:27:16]<realityloop>omega8cc: cool, thats what I was about to ask darthsteven
[09:27:58]<darthsteven>realityloop: Pong!
[09:27:58]<hefring>darthsteven: 1 week 1 day ago <omega8cc> tell darthsteven: last night we migrated Aegir server with ~30 sites on it using your awesome remote_import and it worked great! thank you! we will add this stuff to BOA by default
[09:27:58]<hefring>darthsteven: 1 week 1 day ago <omega8cc> tell darthsteven: one thing missing in remote_import are domain aliases, we had to add them again manually to each site, I will open an issue about it
[09:28:22]<omega8cc>hah
[09:28:31]<realityloop>oh.. awesome.. I'm about to need something like remote_import :P
[09:29:16]<omega8cc>realityloop: example of 2.x port: https://github.com/omega8cc/provision_boost/tree/7.x-2.x
[09:29:18]<darthsteven>Porting queue runner to 2.x?
[09:29:29]<darthsteven>Should be easy
[09:29:32]<realityloop>darthsteven: cool
[09:29:40]<darthsteven>If it even needs one
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[09:30:27]<darthsteven>A massive lack of time and resources for aegir at the moment though :(
[09:31:00]<realityloop>are there any docs on creating a satellite server using nginx?
[09:31:18]<realityloop>darthsteven: will you be making it to Denver?
[09:31:30]<darthsteven>No :(
[09:31:40]<darthsteven>(Denver)
[09:31:58]<realityloop>darthsteven: doh.. any other aegir team due to be there?
[09:32:02]<realityloop>do you know?
[09:32:12]<darthsteven>Not sure
[09:32:21]<darthsteven>anarcat: Maybe?
[09:32:21]<realityloop>I'll be there and I'm guessing Stuart and I would be happy to sprint on it
[09:32:22]<omega8cc>realityloop: looks like there is nothing to port in hosting_queue_runner
[09:32:29]<realityloop>omega8cc: awesome!
[09:32:39]<omega8cc>it should just work
[09:32:49]<anarcat>i don't think so :(
[09:33:03]<omega8cc>well, why not to add it by default to Barracuda then?
[09:33:25]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there any reason not to?
[09:33:46]<omega8cc>realityloop: none, we can do that
[09:33:57]<realityloop>awesome!
[09:34:55]<realityloop>darthsteven: halcyonCorsair is working on script to automate out OS X installation process
[09:35:02]<realityloop>out = our
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[09:35:18]<omega8cc>hah, I was about to do that :p
[09:35:32]<realityloop>omega8cc: https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/fabric-aegir-mac
[09:35:35]<omega8cc>good to know
[09:35:41]<omega8cc>great
[09:35:56]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: still a bug, re: nginx
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[09:37:00]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: there is.. or your asking me?
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[09:37:38]<realityloop>can anyone help me with remote_import stuff? link do docs?
[09:37:59]<mvc>wow, where was remote_import two weeks ago when i was writing that custom script?
[09:39:47]<omega8cc>realityloop: just standard remote how-to, and darthsteven wrote some readme (included), but I will add it to BOA this week: http://drupal.org/node/1407800#comment-5495392
[09:39:47]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1407800 => Multiserver feature for BOA satellite user? => Octopus, Miscellaneous, normal, needs work, 5 comments, 3 IRC mentions
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[09:40:41]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: there is
[09:41:07]<omega8cc>realityloop: just remember that it works in the pull (not push) mode, so you only need to add stuff on the target head and on the old head only root level grant for mysql, open the port, add keys and the rest just works - it is awesome!
[09:41:18]<realityloop>omega8cc: so cool.. this is pretty much my holy grail of aegir.. (hostmaster to hostmaster migration for sites)
[09:41:27]<omega8cc>right
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[09:42:37]<omega8cc>I consider it as a milestone, as previously moving from web wizard to command line - thanks mig5!
[09:43:26]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: can you pastebin the org.nginx.nginx.plist?
[09:43:31]<realityloop>omega8cc: I talked about this to darthsteven at London.. and had mentioned it to mig5 beforehand as well
[09:44:01]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: which.. my working local or result of your script?
[09:45:04]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: the one from homebrew/result of my script, i just restored the vm image so i don't have it onhand
[09:45:27]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: you'll have to wait a bit.. in the process of running through script
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[09:45:40]<halcyonCorsair>ok
[09:45:41]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: it's up to the php stage
[09:46:35]<Tilaperfect10>can anyone tell me how to change aegir config so that the vhosts configs are not in the default directory?
[09:47:01]<Tilaperfect10>so that drush doesnt put it inside /var/
[09:48:15]<Tilaperfect10>please?
[09:48:40]<realityloop>omega8cc: when did you say remote_import stuff will be in stable Barracuda? as I'm about to need it
[09:49:50]<realityloop>omega8cc: could I could just add the modules manually without hurting when you add it to scripts?
[09:51:17]<realityloop>Tilaperfect10: just use a symbolic link?
[09:51:46]<realityloop>Tilaperfect10: or drush hostmaster-install --help
[09:52:21]<omega8cc>realityloop: you can just add them and follow the how-to - we already migrated a few 2.0.1 instances so no extra magic involved, we will add it this week anyway to upcoming 2.0.2
[09:52:35]<Tilaperfect10>i was going to but appearntly its not recommended
[09:52:55]<realityloop>omega8cc: great.. thanks
[09:54:21]<realityloop>omega8cc: put in /hostmaster-BOA-2.0.1/profiles/hostmaster/modules ?
[09:54:51]<omega8cc>realityloop: oh, wait, one sec
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[09:54:59]<realityloop>omega8cc: k
[09:56:00]<realityloop>Tilaperfect10: then try following to get list of switches: drush hostmaster-install --help
[09:56:22]<omega8cc>realityloop: I forgot we had to port the Provision part: https://github.com/omega8cc/remote_import/tree/6.x-2.x
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[09:56:39]<Tilaperfect10>i tried that
[09:56:55]<Tilaperfect10>that only lets you change the aegir root directory it installs
[09:57:18]<Tilaperfect10>but i want to specify where my vhosts are going to be created and my where my sites are going to be created
[09:57:27]<Tilaperfect10>or that not possible in the new version?
[09:57:27]<omega8cc>realityloop: anywhere, the hostmaster module can be in sites/all as it is not a part of profile (yet)
[09:57:42]<realityloop>you can symlink for the profiles dir without consequece
[09:58:10]<realityloop>omega8cc: will that matter when I upgrade to BOA 2.0.2?
[09:58:13]<Tilaperfect10>yes but then I would have to manually symlink everysite?
[09:59:03]<realityloop>Tilaperfect10: no.. you symlink the platforms dir.. not each individual site
[09:59:07]<realityloop>ln -s /Users/`whoami`/Sites /var/aegir/platforms
[09:59:10]<omega8cc>realityloop: no, upgrade will create a new platform anyway, so it doesn't matter
[09:59:19]<realityloop>omega8cc: ok col.. thanks
[09:59:21]<realityloop>cool
[10:00:00]<realityloop>omega8cc: it won't copy the sites/all/modules dir as part of update?
[10:01:03]<omega8cc>realityloop: nono, migrate never does that, only sites/domain/* is migrated, as always
[10:05:18]<realityloop>omega8cc: cool, just checking
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[10:14:31]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: how far through are you now?
[10:14:46]<realityloop>making php
[10:15:13]<halcyonCorsair>ah
[10:15:51]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: basically i need to gist the nginx plist and make it halfway between your one and the homebrew one :)
[10:16:01]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: k
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[10:21:21]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: installer breaks at php now.. homebrew updated php version
[10:21:29]<Tilaperfect10>hey reality
[10:21:30]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: output?
[10:21:50]<Tilaperfect10>i dont mean the sites themselves
[10:21:57]<Tilaperfect10>i mean the vhost configs
[10:22:01]<Tilaperfect10>-/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/
[10:22:07]<Tilaperfect10>so when I provision a site
[10:22:13]<Tilaperfect10>i dont want the configs going here
[10:22:19]<Tilaperfect10>i want to specify my own directorty
[10:22:26]<Tilaperfect10>http://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/7373/configuring-aegir-to-set-...
[10:22:33]<Tilaperfect10>i tried what this doc said however it does not work
[10:22:51]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: https://gist.github.com/1679625
[10:23:50]<halcyonCorsair>ah yep, i think i have a fix for that, but unpushed
[10:24:19]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: what are the chages? so I can update the blog post..
[10:26:01]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: ah its because i moved around the logic / order a little, i can give you a more detailed overview a little later
[10:26:14]<Tilaperfect10>the old aegir let you specify this inside
[10:27:18]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: thanks.. rfay msg'd me earlier saying the post is a bit rsuty since 5.3.9 of PHP he couldn't get it working..
[10:27:41]<realityloop>I told him we're working on script.. but would be good to update post in the meantime
[10:28:03]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: whic part couldn't he get working? there is still a bunch of php.net breakage, eg. nz.php.net is fucked
[10:28:30]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: ah it may be related to that then
[10:34:37]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: I can restore snapshot from earlier in the week to get nginx config if you likle?
[10:35:20]<Tilaperfect10>anyone?
[10:35:22]<Tilaperfect10>:)
[10:38:23]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: mine finally got through so i've got it now
[10:38:26]<halcyonCorsair>testing :)
[10:39:48]<realityloop>k
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[10:59:57]<realityloop>omega8cc: have you cone ant tests with the remote_import stuff and a site thats on a sattelite server for a remote hostmaster?