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[11:38:33]<drakythe>anyone have any idea why following the aegir install instruction I'm getting an unmet dependencies broken package error on "sudo apt-get install aegir"?
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[11:40:44]<drakythe>eff, figured it out. Drush didn't install properly the first time
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[23:44:20]<hefring>community => cache not totally cleared on clone => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/cache-not-totally-cleared-clone
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[01:54:37]<bnicoll>So I've just done an install on a fresh server
[01:54:52]<bnicoll>it's given me the link to visit but it didn't come up
[01:54:58]<bnicoll>Hi everyone btw
[01:55:04]<bnicoll>It's lateโ€ฆ. I'm tired
[01:55:09]<bnicoll>and a 7am start
[01:55:38]<bnicoll>Aegir is now installed. You can visit it at
[01:56:00]<bnicoll>I get a not found error
[01:56:23]<bnicoll>any thoughts
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[02:05:44]<bgm>bnicoll: what linux distribution, and did you install with the debian package, or manually?
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[02:06:10]<bnicoll>just had a new VPS setup running debian
[02:06:25]<bnicoll>having issues with provider so they did it for free
[02:06:41]<bnicoll>it also had plesk installed - not sure if that's going to cause issues
[02:06:52]<bnicoll>i've been through all migs steps
[02:07:02]<bnicoll>says it's installed correctly
[02:07:15]<bnicoll>now just can't hit the desired page through a browser
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[02:07:50]<bnicoll>Aegir is now installed. You can visit it at http://vmx9398.hosting24.com.au/user/reset/1/1328020848/f888a2ef446fe3ec...
[02:07:51]<bnicoll>************************************************************************
[02:07:59]<bnicoll>you'll see though the link doesn't work
[02:08:08]<bnicoll>http://vmx9398.hosting24.com.au/
[02:08:10]<bnicoll>works
[02:08:17]<bnicoll>it's like it's not finding the right path
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[04:55:12]<hefring>community => Looking for best practices for doing module and theme development within an Aegir environment => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/looking-best-practices-doing-m...
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[05:50:08]<hefring>community => File Paths for Files and Images for Many Sites on a Platform => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/file-paths-files-and-images-ma...
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[06:58:02]<drakythe>So.... why after I have wrestled with Aegir for 2 days now, and I finally get it to install, is my aegir.conf empty? (second try)
[07:00:57]<drakythe>Sorry, apache.conf
[07:02:25]<bgm>drakythe: which one?
[07:02:32]<bgm>in etc or /var/aegir/config ?
[07:02:40]<drakythe>bgm /var/aegir/config/apache.conf
[07:04:08]<drakythe>O.o
[07:04:25]<bgm>drakythe: can you try, as the aegir user: drush @server_master hosting-verify --debug
[07:04:30]<bgm>er.. provision-verify
[07:04:55]<bgm>did you install manually or using the debian package?
[07:05:11]<drakythe>Debian package
[07:05:23]<drakythe>and that debug just gave me a lot of info, what am I lokking for?
[07:06:00]<bgm>errors should be rather explicit (there is a error level at the end of the line)
[07:06:21]<drakythe>Uhm... so this is interesting, just noticed looking at my working aegir (debian 5) and my new aegir (debian 6) old aegir is all in /var/aegir new aegir is in /home/aegir... is that normal?
[07:06:49]<bgm>afaik, not normal
[07:06:58]<drakythe>bgm: Yeah, no error messages in that debug
[07:07:10]<drakythe>and I was afraid of that... I wonder what I borked in the install...
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[07:09:21]<bgm>maybe delete the aegir user and restart from scratch
[07:09:33]<bgm>the aegir user should be created by the debian package
[07:09:59]<drakythe>bgm: Yeah... documentation bit me in the ass again... the debian package instructions seem to assume you've read the manual
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[07:26:45]<drakythe>bgm: you said the aegir user should be created by the package? alright so here is a question, any idea why the install errors out when I run it as root, but if I create an aegir user and sudo it I get it installed?
[07:28:19]<bgm>drakythe: what's the error message?
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[07:29:13]<drakythe>bgm: hostmaster not setup.. I've lost the terminal with the exact message (and drush is installed correctly)
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[07:30:36]<bgm>drakythe: i can't speculate :)
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[07:31:03]<drakythe>bgm: Alright, I'm trying one last trick up my sleeve and if I get the error again I'll make sure to copy it
[07:34:01]<drakythe>holy crap... that trick backfired hardcore... the aegir package is trying to install to /home/aegir again
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[07:40:33]<drakythe>Is it possible, somehow some way, that the auto-install package is jacked up on some level? I just ran it and hostmaster aborted in a panic about not being able create /home/aegir ..?
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[07:48:48]<bgm>drakythe: i don't know, sounds like your system has some other confs maybe causing issues. but i'm maybe not the best person to debug that, you should post on the community forum
[07:49:08]<bgm>drakythe: you're installing with "apt-get install aegir", right?
[07:49:28]<drakythe>bgm: Correct
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[07:52:52]<drakythe>bgm: I'm gonna try the manual install and if that doesn't get anywhere I'll post on the forums and see what I can find
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[08:06:47]<joestewart>drakythe: if you notice the manual install sets the aegir home directory as /var/aegir - http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual#Create_the_Aegir_user
[08:07:10]<joestewart>no idea why you're having trouble with the package though.
[08:07:12]<drakythe>joestewart: I did actually notice that after the auto-install failed
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[08:07:21]<joestewart>good deal
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[08:11:26]<drakythe>And manual install failed... this is just... I'm almost ready to just give the whole endeavor up :( -- I didn't even make it to the install step, the apache setup failed.
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[08:19:51]<drakythe>"dpkg: error processing aegir-hostmaster (--configure): subprocess installed prost-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[08:19:55]<drakythe>I give up
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[09:08:07]<bnicoll>Hi all
[09:08:15]<bnicoll>Hopeing someone can give me a hand
[09:08:18]<bnicoll>So did that install last night on a fresh Ubuntu VPS
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[09:08:30]<bnicoll>Just can't get it to display the site after the success message
[09:08:44]<bnicoll>So much of the troubleshooting stuff works and seems correct
[09:08:56]<bnicoll>just can't hit it from a browser
[09:09:14]<bnicoll>The server came pre configured with PLESK - not sure if that would be causing issues.
[09:09:21]<bnicoll>Chances are I've messed something up.
[09:13:08]<realityloop>bnicoll: what port was plesk set to? are you using the same domain name as was set for plesk?
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[09:18:52]<bnicoll>I'm not sure anything was set for it initially as it was a fresh install
[09:19:11]<bnicoll>I'm happy to sling anyone a few bucks to get in there and finalise the install for me
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[09:19:56]<bnicoll>Just at the point where I'm burning hours into this *that i don't have
[09:24:51]<realityloop>sorry not right now.. it's the start of the business day here
[09:25:38]<realityloop>whats the aegir hostmaster url?
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[09:48:14]<joestewart>bnicoll: if you do a "sudo apache2ctl -S", for the url in question it should show the path to the vhost.
[09:48:27]<joestewart>it is possible plesk is messing with you.
[09:48:42]<bnicoll>Looks that way
[09:48:57]<joestewart>bnicoll: also dns does resolve to that VPS' IP.
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[09:49:47]<bnicoll>Yeah - it's all balls up
[09:49:53]<bnicoll>doesn't matter now
[09:50:00]<bnicoll>moved on :p
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[10:14:07]<omega8cc>hefring: botsnack
[10:14:07]<hefring>skynet thanks YOU!
[10:14:18]<omega8cc>good bot
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[10:19:37]<drakythe>Alright, anyone who might know: Is the aegir user required for isntalling aegir using the package system, or can I do it as root?
[10:23:48]<joestewart>drakythe: looks like the package installation creates one if it doesn't already exist - http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/refs/heads/debian:/debi... These really are the installation instructions - http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian
[10:24:57]<drakythe>joestewart: I've read the instructions a gazillion times. Nowhere is it explicitely stated that you need to run the command _as_ aegir, but it is implicity everywhere with the sudo commands
[10:25:35]<drakythe>not to mention this line "The line above assumes that you have created a user aegir as specified in the installation instructions." at direction 5. Which alone borked no fewer than 3 installations for me before I realized the "instructions" were on another page...
[10:25:39]<joestewart>no. the aegir user sudo is limited to apache so it *can't* do all those other things.
[10:27:14]<drakythe>joestewart: Alright, I understand that now. Maybe I'm just not experienced enough with server installs to get that just from those lines. I guess the instructions assume you are a user other than either root or aegir?
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[10:30:05]<drakythe>joestewart: alright, double checking against those instructions one last time before I take the plunge for a nth time today. does the /etc/sudoers instruction given for that user assume I already have sudo installed? or will sudo pick that file up when it is installed?
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[10:40:48]<joestewart>drakythe: are you doing the package installation? it should do the sudoers portion for you if you are using 11.04 or later according to the install doc. The sudoers change can be done later. It should not hold up installation.
[10:40:57]<joestewart>good luck. gotta go.
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[10:41:07]<drakythe>joestewart: thanks :)
[10:41:10]<drakythe>joestewart++
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[10:47:38]<realityloop>seen halyconCor*
[10:47:38]<hefring>Sorry, I haven't seen halyconCor*.
[10:47:44]<realityloop>seen hal*
[10:47:44]<hefring>halcyonCorsair was last seen in #aegir 4 days 18 hours ago saying 'r_ealityloop: do you want a run over of the differences to your blog post at some point, or are you fine just reading the script?'.
[10:47:44]<hefring>HaloFX was last seen in #aegir 6 days 21 hours ago saying 'o_mega8cc: Thanks for the clarification.'.
[10:47:44]<hefring>halp was last seen in #aegir 6 months 3 days ago saying 'ya i migrated'.
[10:54:47]<kepford>Anyone have a tip for testing Aegir email sending locally. My ISP blocks port 25.
[10:56:14]<kepford>Running the Barracuda installer gives me this. https://gist.github.com/1713978
[10:57:57]<mig5>put your ISP's SMTP server as a relay
[10:58:08]<mig5>if they block port 25, they should provide you an alternative
[10:58:12]<mig5>or else change your ISP :)
[10:59:00]<kepford>Thanks. Wish I could. AT&T is my only option :(