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[12:23:27]<rocksoup>I have just installed the newest version of aegir on a fresh vps. it is working great except is is having aproblem creating drupal 5 sites- the platform worked fine. Any suggestions where to look for a fix- google has not been helpful.
[12:23:54]<rocksoup>the error is: Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database. Hint: This error often occurs....
[12:37:33]<halcyonCorsair>every time you run drupal 5, god kills a kitten...
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[12:47:55]<rocksoup>halcyonCorsair: truth
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[13:28:46]<mvc>yay, a drupal6 security release
[13:29:08]<mvc>now all the piddly little bugs committed since last spring will be released :)
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[13:40:39]<anarcat>mvc: wow!
[13:43:22]<anarcat>mvc: my favorite: http://drupal.org/node/883038
[13:43:23]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/883038 => PHP warning: Function ereg() is deprecated in includes/file.inc => Drupal core, base system, critical, fixed, 46 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[13:45:44]<halcyonCorsair>i'll give that a "fuck yeah"
[13:47:15]<anarcat>about freaking time too
[13:49:54]<halcyonCorsair>boggles the mind
[13:50:01]<halcyonCorsair>how long that took
[13:52:02]<anarcat>yeah
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[14:22:27]<mvc>my favourite: http://drupal.org/node/269877
[14:22:29]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/269877 => path_set_alias() doesn't account for same alias in different languages => Drupal core, path.module, critical, fixed, 300 comments, 1 IRC mention
[14:23:38]<mvc>324
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[14:23:44]<mvc>oops, meant to say: there are 324
[14:23:58]<mvc>comments, hefring doesn't know to check other pages :)
[14:24:03]<anarcat>haha
[14:24:27]<anarcat>oh wow, that's a good one too
[14:24:46]<anarcat>and old!
[14:24:47]<mvc>scyrma & i have been following that one since 2009 :/
[14:24:57]<anarcat>at least this one seem to be harder to fix :P
[14:24:59]<anarcat>yeah
[14:25:22]<mvc>this also fixes http://drupal.org/node/12274 from 2004, which really shouldn't have been hard
[14:25:23]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/12274 => Do not validate email addresses with trailing periods => Drupal core, base system, normal, fixed, 86 comments, 1 IRC mention
[14:26:20]<mvc>too bad drupal is so secure now, these release are really far apart :)
[14:30:41]<anarcat>.. right :P
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[18:10:11]<berniecram>hi all, is there a way to roll back a migrate of a site from 7.12 platform to the previous 7.11 platform? or am i restoring a backup?
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[19:39:17]<darthsteven>good morning!
[19:39:41]<mig5>hello darthsteven
[19:40:07]<mig5>it's a good day for a d`rush hostmaster-migrate` to 6.24
[19:40:49]<darthsteven>mig5: I noticed this morning that ohloh thinks you left the project in Feb 2011
[19:40:56]<darthsteven>please come back!
[19:41:01]<mig5>heh :s
[19:42:50]<mig5>i feel pretty useless
[19:42:53]<mig5>i just can't code anymore
[19:43:41]<mig5>too much of a sysadmin
[19:46:21]<mig5>i was never a strong committer to the project
[19:46:26]<mig5>it's a shame ohloh only interprets commits
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[19:52:37]<darthsteven>indeed
[19:52:39]<darthsteven>oh crap
[19:52:44]<darthsteven>help!
[19:52:44]<hefring>http://community.aegirproject.org/help
[19:52:53]<darthsteven>a migrate just went very, very wrong
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[20:14:01]<darthsteven>all sorted...
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[00:45:51]<ergonlogic>joestewart: pong
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[01:55:07]<thosemoose>Hi folks.. anyone using aegir w/ domain access? Im reading a drupal.org posts here w/ some people successful. http://groups.drupal.org/node/83454
[01:55:08]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/83454 => Aegir and Subdomains/Domain Access (or can Aegir allow for single sign on with shared nodes?) => 10 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[02:00:56]<Circlefusion>I'm trying to wrap my head around aegir for a deployment that was actually due last night. I have aegir in place with a drupal 7.10 platform (which currently matches my client's site) and I created a "blank slate" drupal 7 site at staging.domain.com (and added a DNS a record for that). I'm trying to follow these steps http://omega8.cc/import-your-sites-to-aegir-in-8-easy-steps-109 --- but what is confusing me are the paths involved in a
[02:00:56]<Circlefusion>egir. If anyone can provide me with some hand-holding for this deployment, I would appreciate it. Otherwise, I'm going to have to ditch aegir with go wtih a simple nginx setup. I really don't want to do that.
[02:02:09]<Circlefusion>I have my database (.sql) and files (.tar.gz) copied to the aegir server.
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[02:03:55]<Circlefusion>When I added my platform before (drupal 7.10) it was from running the Octopus script and I didn't provide any paths (Step 3 above)
[02:04:53]<Circlefusion>So do I use that platform or create a new one?
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[02:08:54]<Circlefusion>ok I'm starting over. I deleted my blank d7 site based on the d7.10 platform. I'm now on step 3 - Add platform in Aegir using full system path of static/custom/name so it will be (in this case) /data/disk/USER/static/custom/name
[02:09:16]<Circlefusion>Does it matter what I name the platform? drupal 7.10 import?
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[02:19:40]<Circlefusion>ok I'm stuck on step 6 here http://omega8.cc/import-your-sites-to-aegir-in-8-easy-steps-109
[02:19:53]<Circlefusion>the database name is different
[02:20:39]<Circlefusion>do I do a search/replace in the .sql file?
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[02:32:02]<Circlefusion>using root, I figured out the database name and used drush sqlc --database dbname < database.sql
[02:32:39]<Circlefusion>I went through the remaining steps (double migrate) and apparently the database import didn't take
[02:38:49]<Circlefusion>I think I got the sql import to work. Doing the migrate steps again
[02:43:37]<omega8cc>Circlefusion: just make sure that your sql dump has DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `foo`; plus you don't have table prefix in the sql file
[02:43:37]<hefring>omega8cc: 16 hours 9 min ago <AquaticDisorder> tell omega8cc cool thx, you probably know that patch went into 1.2, you may be interested in a patch for this one https://community.openatrium.com/issues/node/3821#comment-8919 can't see it being fixed any time soon! :)
[02:44:12]<Circlefusion>OMG I GOT IT WORKING
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[02:44:19]<omega8cc>Circlefusion: also, just run as root: mysql databasename < database.sql
[02:44:24]<omega8cc>from anywhere
[02:44:25]<Circlefusion>whew
[02:44:33]<Circlefusion>ok... I'll write that in my notes
[02:44:42]<Circlefusion>so now I have this site...http://staging.casa-latina.org/
[02:45:11]<Circlefusion>and I need to do some tinkering to it (add google analytics, for example) and then move it to www.casa-latina.org and do the DNS switch
[02:45:38]<Circlefusion>I assume I would use clone to do that?
[02:45:57]<omega8cc>hefring: tell AquaticDisorder: I will wait until it is a part of official release probably
[02:45:57]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when AquaticDisorder is around.
[02:47:51]<omega8cc>Circlefusion: until you are familiar with correct workflow, do all import steps in the how-to precisely, don't try shortcuts etc
[02:48:14]<omega8cc>sure, you can clone, but in the same platform
[02:48:24]<omega8cc>don't clone across platforms
[02:48:28]<Circlefusion>ok
[02:48:48]<omega8cc>see also our recipes for disaster
[02:48:57]<Circlefusion>i'm not going to updgrade drupal to 7.12 or upgrade modules for now
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[02:49:07]<omega8cc>it will save you many gray hair
[02:49:59]<omega8cc>s
[02:50:57]<omega8cc>7.12 and Pressflow 6.24 is already in BOA head
[02:51:33]<omega8cc>bbl, back to meeting
[02:54:50]<HaloFX>I am unable to disable core caching and css/js aggregation on a D7 site under Barracuda. Tried ubercart/README.txt in sites/all and sites/domain. Also tried overrideglobal.inc.
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[02:55:38]<HaloFX>Most of the docs I see seems to relate to D6 sites.
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[02:59:42]<joestewart>ergonlogic: was asking about this comment - http://drupal.org/node/1418996#comment-5541336 I didn't see any order change in drupal_system_listing. I got bit by that because I thought the ordering was different in D6.
[02:59:42]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1418996 => Override recursively run makefiles like we can with included ones => Drush, Make, normal, closed (won't fix), 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:01:07]<ergonlogic>joestewart: in d7, /sites/all/modules take precedence over /profiles/example/modules
[03:01:29]<ergonlogic>joestewart: at least, that's my reading of the docs in drupal_system_listing
[03:02:08]<ergonlogic>joestewart: I haven't tested it though...
[03:11:51]<joestewart>ergonlogic: yeah that was my question. I didn't see any difference in the order as drupal_system_listing builds $searchdir[].
[03:12:48]<joestewart>and I sure wish it was the other way around and profile modules took precedence.
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[03:17:15]<ergonlogic>joestewart: the way it is in d6?
[03:17:53]<joestewart>I read the function in D6 the same way as D7.
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[03:39:48]<ergonlogic>joestewart: hmm... I agree
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[03:40:31]<ergonlogic>joestewart: either way, though, sites/all/modules ought to take precedence, afaict, so it makes the issue I posted moot
[03:40:40]<joestewart>ergonlogic: yeah I got burned by that in D6 because I thought profile/example/modules took precedence.
[03:41:13]<ergonlogic>joestewart: it explains what I thought to be some odd behaviour lately, though
[03:41:44]<ergonlogic>joestewart: anyway, I'll be testing this in depth in the coming weeks, and I'll update the issue, if need be
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[03:42:44]<ergonlogic>joestewart: if so, I'll submit a doc patch to D6, for clarity
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[04:51:33]<Circlefusion>ok the site is deployed http://casa-latina.org
[04:52:05]<Circlefusion>next, I need to learn how to perform upgrades.
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[05:21:58]<pomliane>Hi, I'm having this issue: http://drupal.org/node/1324466
[05:21:59]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1324466 => Site migrate task fails => Provision, Code, major, closed (cannot reproduce), 13 comments, 1 IRC mention
[05:22:37]<pomliane>as anybody encountered this behavior?
[05:25:22]<pomliane>the last comment says "mig, that is exactly what it was. the password for the database in the drush file in settings did not match what was in the config directory." -> does it mean the password in config/server_mster/apache/vhost.d/example.com?
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[05:29:03]<pomliane>i've tried to clone the site on the same platform, but same issue and same messages
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[05:56:48]<thosemoose>Anyone currently use aegir w/ domain access for multisites?
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[05:59:47]<pomliane>thosemoose: you should ask anyway...
[06:00:57]<pomliane>thosemoose: I use both but not together (un)fortunately
[06:01:33]<thosemoose>pomliane: ah, i see. some people have had success here: http://groups.drupal.org/node/83454 see the comments
[06:01:33]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/83454 => Aegir and Subdomains/Domain Access (or can Aegir allow for single sign on with shared nodes?) => 10 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[06:02:53]<pomliane>ping mig5
[06:04:28]<fatguylaughing>So when aegir creates a new site the install profile gets fired off somewhere in the mix. When I do a verify of a site does it go through the install profile again? Cause that would be amazing.
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[06:15:16]<noecc>http://drupal.org/node/306267 "Please note that an installation profile can only be used when you're installing a new Drupal instance."
[06:15:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/306267 => Using an installation profile => 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[06:27:59]<fatguylaughing>Yeah I figured as much considering the name install ;) Just wondering :D
[06:31:23]<fatguylaughing>So I've modified the site creation form on the frontend of aegir. Added some check boxes for what features you want to install. Features are things like blog, testimonials, staff, photo gallery, etc. If these are checked during the creation process then I enable them on the site.
[06:31:47]<fatguylaughing>However, I would like to be able to do the opposite and if unchecked during a verify turn off the module.
[06:32:11]<fatguylaughing>Anyone have the slightest idea on how to accomplish that?
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[07:06:24]<pomliane>I have migrated a site to another platform (7.12) were other sites have been successfully migrated this aston says everything is fine in Aegir but the site front page now redirects to install.php
[07:06:37]<pomliane>a retire did not do anything
[07:06:42]<pomliane>restore*
[07:10:17]<AquaticDisorder>fatguylaughing: have you seen mig5's article here - http://mig5.net/content/developing-aegir-extending-aegir-and-communicati...
[07:10:17]<hefring>AquaticDisorder: 4 hours 24 min ago <omega8cc> tell AquaticDisorder: I will wait until it is a part of official release probably
[07:10:30]<AquaticDisorder>hefring botsnack
[07:10:30]<hefring>oh I couldn't... oh alright then..
[07:10:49]<fatguylaughing>AquaticDisorder: Indeed which is how mine is currently working :D
[07:11:17]<AquaticDisorder>fatguylaughing: thought as much, good article!
[07:11:23]<fatguylaughing>AquaticDisorder: However, that doesn't take into account for the ability for me to edit an existing site and have that reflect to the new site :)
[07:11:27]<fatguylaughing>Indeed
[07:12:52]<fatguylaughing>I won't lie, I'm not sure why aegir doesn't just read the installation profiles and depending on the modules that are downloaded via the profile make a list that are checkboxes for each module.
[07:13:02]* fatguylaughing knows nothing about what that would take though
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[07:34:37]<AquaticDisorder>fatguylaughing: I don't know much about these things but it is the makefile that dictates what gets downloaded and the profile what gets installed
[07:34:45]<AquaticDisorder>if you have multiple profiles with a makefile wouldn't aegir need to be able to read the profile to make such a list?
[07:35:22]<fatguylaughing>Correct, I'm just throwing out the idea
[07:35:35]<fatguylaughing>Actually you would probably just scan that profiles /modules folder
[07:35:44]<fatguylaughing>To see what is available.
[07:35:52]<fatguylaughing>Per profile could be different.
[07:36:04]<AquaticDisorder> fatguylaughing: makes sense
[07:36:28]<fatguylaughing>Seems to me this should be something that Aegir does out of the box or an extra module you just turn on :)
[07:36:37]<fatguylaughing>If I knew how I would just write it :)
[07:36:53]<fatguylaughing>And currently with the project I'm on we are too swamped :(
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[08:22:47]<apintorso>logpointer
[08:25:00]<AquaticDisorder>hefring: logpointer
[08:25:07]<AquaticDisorder>hefring: log pointer
[08:25:08]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-02-02#T166285
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[08:43:06]<drakythe>Are there any updated documents/guides/experiences with Aegir clusters? Just about everything I find out there is from alpha 0.4... Are those still relevant?
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[10:17:04]<apintorso>mig5: Feature request, Add a pager to the bottom of each page at bot/log/aegir/...
[10:17:28]<berniecram>is there a way to roll back a migrate of a site from 7.12 platform to the previous 7.11 platform? or am i restoring a backup?
[10:23:19]<mig5>berniecram: you'll need to restore from backup
[10:23:39]<mig5>you'll probably need to migrate the current live site to the *same* target platform that it's currently on, but change its URL
[10:23:43]<mig5>so as to move it out of the way
[10:24:10]<mig5>then use a combination of drush provision-save and drush provision-deploy to re-import the site from the backup that would've been made in /var/aegir/backups just before the original migration commenced
[10:24:20]<anarcat>hey mig5
[10:24:20]<mig5>bit fiddly
[10:24:23]<mig5>hi anarcat
[10:24:27]<anarcat>howyadoin
[10:24:31]<mig5>apintorso: noted
[10:24:36]<mig5>anarcat: not bad
[10:24:40]<mig5>whassup
[10:24:53]<anarcat>i was wondering how much experience you had with aegir's cluster modules
[10:24:58]<mig5>none
[10:25:00]<anarcat>"none" is fine :)
[10:25:01]<mig5>:(
[10:25:03]<berniecram>mig5: thanks for that, on the list of backups to restore to the auto one before migrate doesn't come up even though its in the file system, can you get that one to come up in the restore list?
[10:25:03]<anarcat>snap :)
[10:25:10]<anarcat>i think I'll have to work on that now
[10:25:15]<anarcat>i wanted to bounce ideas around
[10:25:18]<mig5>anarcat: last time i checked, i think it just did a sort of foreach loop on remote servers and did an rsync out
[10:25:23]<anarcat>right
[10:25:28]<anarcat>that's the cluster service right?
[10:25:36]<anarcat>so we had a crazy idea here at koumbit
[10:25:38]<mig5>yeah, it just 'links' multiple remote web servers to it
[10:25:46]<anarcat>fuck that scenario :P
[10:25:49]<mig5>:)
[10:26:01]<anarcat>so the idea would be instead of processing the hostmaster server as where the shit happens
[10:26:04]<berniecram>ah read you ohter comments sorry
[10:26:07]<anarcat>and assume the slaves are mounting /var/aegir
[10:26:37]<anarcat>so then i *think* the only thing is to put SSH keys out there and make aegir just kick apache when it changes the conffiles
[10:26:43]<anarcat>am i making sense?
[10:26:47]<mig5>oh, so direct mount of /var/aegir from hostmaster? via nfs or something?
[10:26:49]<anarcat>would that work?
[10:26:51]<anarcat>yep
[10:27:07]<mig5>to do that, i think you'll be rewriting most of the remote server logic, not just cluster
[10:27:14]<mig5>e.g i think it reuses the same 'outbound rsync' stuff there
[10:27:19]<mig5>(i might be wrong)
[10:27:40]* mig5 has a look
[10:28:01]<anarcat>i would not use the existing remote server logic, basically
[10:28:19]<anarcat>i *think* i could configure the servers in the frontend and backend, but even that is not that important, i feel
[10:28:40]<mig5>do we want to limit all use cases to have to mount /var/aegir though?
[10:28:45]<anarcat>because you need manual intervention to configure the damn ssh keys and sudoers files anyways, and once that's done, well, there's nothing left for provision to do
[10:28:48]<mig5>trying to think of latency issues etc
[10:28:49]<anarcat>no, we don't
[10:28:59]<anarcat>people are free and happy to implement other models, i don't care
[10:29:03]<anarcat>just scratching an itch here
[10:29:13]<mig5>i see
[10:29:14]<anarcat>and we see how well the current model is working (ie. not) :P
[10:29:28]<mig5>so yeah it looks like it just uses that sync() function on each server currently
[10:29:29]<anarcat>i would just create another cluster implementation, not scrap the existing one
[10:29:32]<mig5>gotcha
[10:29:38]<anarcat>yeah, i wouldn't even use sync()
[10:29:41]<mig5>yep
[10:29:55]<anarcat>damn, i'm tempted of trying this right now, i wonder if those test servers are up
[10:30:06]<mig5>well i don't see a problem with that, other than the usual pitfalls of mounting the whole /var/aegir on all these remotes :)
[10:30:11]<mig5>if latency / file locking etc is not an issue, sure
[10:30:38]<anarcat>we're running this setup outside of aegir now, and we have performance issues, but i don't think they're latency
[10:30:45]<anarcat>or file locking, for that matter
[10:30:59]<anarcat>besides, i want to abstract this away
[10:31:10]<anarcat>sysadmins should take care of that stuff, and give me a common filesystem on multiple server
[10:31:13]<anarcat>how hard is that :P
[10:31:23]<anarcat>anyways, that's what they're asking like now now
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[10:32:15]<mig5>apintorso: looks like i'd need to hack the Bot module to add a pager on the log :P
[10:32:18]<mig5>i'll think about it..
[10:33:26]<mig5>i miss the aegir 0.3 days anarcat
[10:33:26]<mig5>:)
[10:33:42]<mig5>life was simpler, other than that crazy installer
[10:33:45]<anarcat>haha
[10:33:52]<mig5>and i felt useful
[10:33:53]<anarcat>well sure, nothing was freaking working :P
[10:33:58]<anarcat>dude
[10:34:07]<mig5>i think it was my migressions were camouflaged by everything else not working :)
[10:34:07]<anarcat>you're useful :P
[10:34:10]<anarcat>haha
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[10:41:28]<mig5>we really ought to be able to use the 'Restore' task in the frontend and choose a target platform
[10:41:38]<mig5>classic example there is berniecram's current situation
[10:41:53]<mig5>he needs to revert to the previous platform, but the Restore task only lets you restore a backup onto the current platform, meaning it's useless in that scenario
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[10:42:05]<mig5>so he needs to first move that entire site, or delete it
[10:42:06]<anarcat>yep
[10:42:09]<mig5>and use provision-deploy from the backend
[10:42:10]<anarcat>that should be fairly simple to fix
[10:42:14]<anarcat>since restore is really deploy
[10:42:19]<mig5>just needs to take a @target_platform as an arg really eh
[10:42:20]<mig5>yeah
[10:42:29]<anarcat>you can do it, i am certain :)
[10:42:37]<mig5>well, let's not be too hasty :)
[10:42:42]<mig5>remember my track record!
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[10:42:59]<mig5>i guess this would be a 2.x thing. i'e never even installed 2.x branch
[10:43:31]<anarcat>i remember your track record, and i am telling you can do this :)
[10:43:41]<anarcat>and 2.x isn't that far off 1.x right now
[10:43:42]<berniecram>mig5: and my migrate with a different domain name is failing, can I just go back to the last manual backup yesterday?
[10:43:44]<anarcat>so we need good stuff like that
[10:44:19]<mig5>i guess the problem with the idea is you could restore a *newer* schema database onto an older platform
[10:44:23]<mig5>that's probably why we never did it
[10:44:32]<mig5>we can't do the package comparison thing coz we don't know what's in the tarball
[10:45:04]<mig5>berniecram: you can restore from backup but you're stuck on the same platform, is the problem. why is your migrate failing? maybe pastebin the task output
[10:45:22]<realityloop>I have a migrate thats seems to be stuck as well
[10:45:22]<hefring>realityloop: 1 day 23 hours ago <halcyonCorsair> tell realityloop i'm in and out of meetings, but be around later this afternoon
[10:46:17]<realityloop>migration to a new platform has been running for over 10 minutes now
[10:46:33]<berniecram>mig5: there is a patch up for menu block this morning so I'll try that first, something in 7.12 killed active-trail
[10:46:54]<realityloop>berniecram: your also trying to migrate to 7.12?
[10:47:28]<mig5>i migrated about 5 sites to 7.12 yesterday with no issue
[10:47:33]<mig5>not very complex sites though
[10:47:42]<realityloop>I wonder if it's a provision 2.x issue..?
[10:47:43]<berniecram>realityloop: I migrated to 7.12 but I wanted to go back to 7.11
[10:47:54]<realityloop>mig5: this one is the simplest site I have.. just a blog
[10:48:04]<realityloop>berniecram: why did you want to go back?
[10:48:20]<berniecram>7.12 kills menu_block
[10:48:35]<berniecram>realityloop: ^
[10:48:35]<realityloop>berniecram: ah.. thats ok.. not using it on this site
[10:48:57]<realityloop>omega8cc: ping
[10:54:06]<joestewart>anarcat: I initially tried to share /var/aegir over NFS and the problem came up with the apache symlink IIRC. I ended up sharing /var/aegir/platforms. But it is not using the aegir cluster stuff.
[10:56:19]<joestewart>anarcat: I couldn't have exactly the same vhosts because I was doing SSL on each front end so differing IP's on the SSL vhosts.
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[10:58:16]<anarcat>joestewart: what's the problem with the apache symlink?
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