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| [15:11:21] | <pomliane> | hi, I'm trying to clone a site on the same D6 platform but it fails with errors like "Drush command terminated abnormally due to an unrecoverable error. Error: Call to undefined function user_load()" and "Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) Drupal. Hint: This error can only occur once the database connection has already been successfully initiated, therefore this error generally points to a site configuration issue, and not a problem connecting to the |
| [15:11:21] | <pomliane> | database." But, well I'm stuck. Has anyone an idea or direction to show, please? |
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| [15:22:46] | <flexgrip> | Can anyone tell me if there are modules or sources that would make aegir run differently on the RHEL family vs Debian family? |
| [15:23:13] | <flexgrip> | I am trying to make up my mind as to which to use. And one of the primary concerns I have is optimization/speed. |
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| [16:48:56] | <flexgrip> | Is anyone around tonight? |
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| [02:24:03] | <drakythe> | Alright ladies and gents. I have been given the task of creating an Aegir cluster now. Anyone have a best place to start? Google keeps giving me 0.4 aegir documentation |
| [02:26:09] | <joestewart> | drakythe: I'm not much help here but would suggest looking at the recent "pack" clusters that explicitly depend on a shared file system for the drupal files. http://community.aegirproject.org/content/web-clusters |
| [02:26:40] | <drakythe> | joestewart: thanks, Didn't even know that existed |
| [02:29:21] | <joestewart> | just branched the other day in a dev branch. - http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/are-people-using-cluster-module |
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| [03:00:13] | <mdel> | hey all |
| [03:00:32] | <mdel> | anyone using aegir with nginx support? |
| [03:00:48] | <mdel> | there isn't much instruction on what needs to be symlinked where |
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| [03:07:39] | <drakythe> | mdel: I've never done that either, but the topic came up earlier today in my office. If you find any good docs, care to pass them on? |
| [03:07:53] | <mdel> | drakythe: will do |
| [03:08:04] | <mdel> | i found some info, but nothing "official" |
| [03:08:23] | <joestewart> | mdel: Isn't it documented in the manual installation? http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389 |
| [03:08:55] | <drakythe> | joestewart: Oh! the manual install instructions, that woulda made sense... |
| [03:09:02] | <juampy> | how do I set up https for a site created with AEgir |
| [03:09:03] | <juampy> | ? |
| [03:10:01] | <mdel> | joestewart: well now, I guess it is |
| [03:10:10] | <mdel> | joestewart: thanks :) |
| [03:11:16] | <drakythe> | juampy: Uhh, I've only done that once and was really only watching, but as I recall you have to assign that site its own IP address and then tell aegir to use encrption. It'll generate some self-sign certificates, which you then replace with the actual SSL cert. Do not take that as canon though, there were some other steps involved I believe. |
| [03:11:26] | <drakythe> | encryption* even |
| [03:11:53] | <juampy> | darkythe, ok thanks, I think I opt for setting it up manually |
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| [03:14:22] | <mvc> | juampy: if you do it with aegir then when you migrate the site you won't have to do any extra work with the cert |
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| [03:56:02] | <kepford> | I'm prepping an existing Virtual machine for Aegir. What's the best way to restore the install to the base install of Ubuntu? |
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| [03:57:31] | <mdel> | kepford: reinstall? |
| [03:57:52] | <mdel> | thats really the only way to get to the "base" install for that machine |
| [03:59:23] | <kepford> | That's what I thought mdel. THanks |
| [04:00:37] | <mdel> | np |
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| [05:27:34] | <Nickey> | I got some questions about Aegir Platforms, in particular how they work on the standard Omega8cc hosting setup, if different from other implementations. |
| [05:28:26] | <anarcat> | then you should ask omega8cc or #omega8cc :) |
| [05:28:54] | <Nickey> | I am just browsing through various pieces of documentation related to Aegir platforms and Drupal (7) install profiles. |
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| [05:31:07] | <Nickey> | sure, but in a general channel I might find different answers... |
| [05:32:44] | <Nickey> | Trying to identify if there are any "pitfalls" or important things I need to know before starting, especially related to maintaining and deploying several custom distributions later on. |
| [05:35:45] | <thosemoose> | hey y'all: I'm trying a proof of concept. I have a site with subsites using domain access. I am managing the parent site in aegir. I'd like to clone the main site along w/ the subsites from DA. however when i run a clone in aegir, I get some PRIMARY KEY EXISTS DB errors when creating themes in the system table in the aegir action log. anyone have experience writing scripts for drush make that allow the DA sites to be cloned? |
| [05:36:31] | <Nickey> | when deploying using install profiles, I have seen tips about including libraries in the "normal" sites/all/libraries folder instead of in the /profiles hierarchy, and I think there must be some insights as to why such things as those locations are even debated - some flexibility that is not documented or obvious, for example... |
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| [05:37:59] | <Nickey> | so the first thing I would like to know is if there is anything practical or important I should know about these module locations that are not in the main documentation, and plainly which location to use, mainly, for contributed modules and themes and libraries on aegir platforms. |
| [05:38:03] | <dmp1ce> | Does Aegir require multiple IPs for vhost ssl setups? I'm trying to get multiple certificates working on one IP but Aegir will not verify the sites. |
| [05:41:46] | <Nickey> | I am familiar with multisite setup, and with aegir, the first thing I want to figure out is if the only/"smart" way to deal with several different distributions that have overlap in the contributed modules, is to use different platform for each distribution, or have them all in one platform, separated by install profiles... |
| [05:44:22] | <Nickey> | The real concern is how to handle updates that require manual adjustments. That suggests separate platforms for each distro, I think. Then potential conflicts between modules that only apply to one or two distros can be handled separately, while the other platforms can update automatically. |
| [05:45:27] | <Nickey> | Would appreciate any input as of whether these concerns makes sense. |
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| [06:44:23] | <w7u64xi71> | I've followed your advise and ordered a hosting from a Xen hosting which is www.linode.com |
| [06:45:17] | <w7u64xi71> | I've found a Steak Script for Aegir StackScriptID=1027 |
| [06:45:58] | <w7u64xi71> | Now I am stuck for data to be filled, may you help |
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| [06:50:19] | <w7u64xi71> | http://i41.tinypic.com/b80m5s.png |
| [06:51:01] | <w7u64xi71> | so I want to fill these details |
| [06:58:57] | <darthsteven> | scrum in a couple of mins |
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| [07:01:39] | <darthsteven> | mig5, anarcat, EclipseGc, ergonlogic, hadsie, mvc, omega8cc, sfyn, skwashd: scrum! |
| [07:03:07] | <anarcat> | yay! |
| [07:03:13] | <anarcat> | i'm here for once |
| [07:03:25] | <ergonlogic> | hi there |
| [07:03:29] | <anarcat> | hey ergonlogic |
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| [07:03:45] | <omega8cc> | hi |
| [07:03:59] | <hadsie> | hey |
| [07:03:59] | <hefring> | eh oh |
| [07:04:05] | <anarcat> | alright, should i start? i have lots to say :) |
| [07:04:11] | <anarcat> | so i'll just go ahead |
| [07:04:13] | <ergonlogic> | sure |
| [07:04:16] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:04:27] | <anarcat> | i wrote this crazy web_pack module last week |
| [07:04:49] | <anarcat> | in basically 3 hours, i fixed most of the issues i was having with our multi-server support, or at least the "cluster" use case |
| [07:05:11] | <anarcat> | i have posted this article requesting comments for total replacement of the current cluster module with the new implementation: |
| [07:05:20] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/are-people-using-cluster-modul... |
| [07:05:28] | <anarcat> | s/#comment.*// |
| [07:05:29] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [07:05:33] | <darthsteven> | cool |
| [07:05:41] | <anarcat> | the idea is to stop syncing the damn platforms and sites all over the place all the time |
| [07:05:51] | <anarcat> | we only sync the ~aegir/config directory and reload apache |
| [07:05:53] | <darthsteven> | replace replace replace |
| [07:06:02] | <anarcat> | we assume /var/aegir/platforms is NFS-mounted |
| [07:06:16] | <anarcat> | which brings me to: i think we should install the hostmaster platform in /var/aegir/platforms |
| [07:06:26] | <anarcat> | it's inconsistent to have it where it is, and i don't see what purpose it serves |
| [07:06:36] | <anarcat> | + it makes sharing "all the platforms" harder |
| [07:06:44] | <anarcat> | food for thought |
| [07:06:49] | <anarcat> | i have also worked on the provisionacl module |
| [07:06:56] | <anarcat> | to make the sites directory accessible to the client group |
| [07:07:04] | <anarcat> | but there are a few snafus in there that need working out |
| [07:07:27] | <anarcat> | basically: http://drupal.org/node/1428526 |
| [07:07:28] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1428526 => Files created by www-data user => Provision ACL support, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [07:07:39] | <anarcat> | and http://drupal.org/node/1416056 |
| [07:07:39] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1416056 => give access to entire site directory (was: add support for .git) => Provision ACL support, Code, normal, active, 8 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [07:07:59] | <anarcat> | otherwise i am trying to think more about how to optimise the migrate task so that it doesn't tar and untar all those damn files all the time |
| [07:08:13] | <anarcat> | so far i came up with the idea that files/ should be a symlink to a version-controlled storage |
| [07:08:24] | <anarcat> | and that therefore shouldn't eb backed up |
| [07:08:40] | <anarcat> | so backups would now mean "backup the database", not "backup the filesystem" |
| [07:08:46] | <anarcat> | that would be a plugin, i guess |
| [07:09:01] | <anarcat> | i had a bit more time to work on aegir these days, which feels good |
| [07:09:04] | <hadsie> | that would be awesome :) |
| [07:09:05] | <darthsteven> | hmm…interesting |
| [07:09:08] | <anarcat> | especially since it's client work paying for that |
| [07:09:16] | <anarcat> | looking for more of those opportunities here |
| [07:09:29] | <anarcat> | oh and i had issues... with 2.x |
| [07:09:59] | <anarcat> | i wrote the pack module for 2.x, but since we don't deploy 2.x anywhere, i had to backport it to 1.x, which means now i have 4 branches (2 per module, 2 per version) for this simple module |
| [07:10:03] | <anarcat> | kind of stupid |
| [07:10:09] | <darthsteven> | ouch |
| [07:10:11] | <anarcat> | i also wonder if that module could just be contrib, i didn't bother |
| [07:10:24] | <anarcat> | i think that's it for me |
| [07:10:42] | <darthsteven> | well looks like you got up to lots of stuff |
| [07:10:44] | <darthsteven> | thanks! |
| [07:10:51] | <anarcat> | :) |
| [07:10:52] | <darthsteven> | anyone else want to go next? |
| [07:11:19] | <ergonlogic> | you? |
| [07:11:48] | <ergonlogic> | ok, me then |
| [07:12:14] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: you go |
| [07:12:16] | <ergonlogic> | I've been mostly working on Open Atrium features these past couple weeks |
| [07:12:23] | <ergonlogic> | and not enough on Aegir |
| [07:12:29] | <darthsteven> | tut tut |
| [07:12:38] | <ergonlogic> | but that should change soon, as I gear up to launch openatria.com |
| [07:12:46] | <darthsteven> | oh cool |
| [07:12:58] | <ergonlogic> | I'll basically be solidifying the contrib modules I've written |
| [07:13:07] | <ergonlogic> | but that ususally involves some patches to aegir too |
| [07:13:29] | <ergonlogic> | I also nee to update aegir-up, as an update to vagrant has now broken it |
| [07:13:44] | <ergonlogic> | and I realized that at least 2 people other than myself were using it |
| [07:13:57] | <ergonlogic> | so that'll be a priority this week |
| [07:14:10] | <ergonlogic> | and I'll be reworking our puppet modules |
| [07:14:20] | <ergonlogic> | mostly to parameterize the classes |
| [07:14:28] | <darthsteven> | awesome |
| [07:14:31] | * anarcat notes that vagrant has now hit debian unstable, which means he may start using it... some day :P |
| [07:14:37] | <darthsteven> | need to talk to you about those puppet modules... |
| [07:14:37] | <ergonlogic> | so we can point to other db servers, etc. |
| [07:14:49] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: can do |
| [07:14:54] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: whenever you'd like |
| [07:15:04] | <anarcat> | snap :) |
| [07:15:07] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, that's my plan for the coming weeks |
| [07:15:17] | <darthsteven> | cool, thanks also |
| [07:15:19] | <anarcat> | alright, we're splurging out of our timebox here |
| [07:15:24] | <anarcat> | anyone else? |
| [07:15:25] | <ergonlogic> | oh, and I'd like to get back to screencasting, but that'll probably have to wait |
| [07:15:30] | <darthsteven> | me! |
| [07:15:33] | <anarcat> | go go ! :) |
| [07:15:41] | <darthsteven> | I've been working on something called 'Pergola' |
| [07:15:56] | <darthsteven> | which is an open source version of the Pantheon server setup scripts |
| [07:16:02] | <darthsteven> | using puppet |
| [07:16:08] | <darthsteven> | so not much Aegir time |
| [07:16:10] | <anarcat> | whoa |
| [07:16:20] | <darthsteven> | but, been trying to get back into Aegir stuff |
| [07:16:27] | <anarcat> | "A pergola, arbor or arbour is a garden feature forming a shaded walkway, passageway or sitting area of vertical posts or pillars that usually support cross-beams and a sturdy open lattice, often upon which woody vines are trained. As a type of gazebo, it may also be an extension of a building, or serve as protection for an open terrace or a link between pavilions." |
| [07:16:34] | <anarcat> | - wikipedia |
| [07:16:43] | <darthsteven> | and think about the D7 port and 6.x-2.x etc. |
| [07:16:46] | <anarcat> | pergola isn't aegir driven? |
| [07:17:03] | <darthsteven> | also, I did a migration the other day that failed in a really horrible way |
| [07:17:08] | <darthsteven> | which was interesting |
| [07:17:16] | <anarcat> | indeed |
| [07:17:33] | <anarcat> | horrible as in killing kittens? |
| [07:17:37] | <darthsteven> | Will talk about Pergola after the scrum, mentioned it, because that's where I've been spending my time :) |
| [07:17:43] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [07:17:56] | <darthsteven> | horrible as in the apache config got rolled back, but the site's files did not |
| [07:18:05] | <anarcat> | we should talk about [67].x-2.x after too |
| [07:18:11] | <anarcat> | ouch |
| [07:18:29] | <darthsteven> | I had a look at Pantheon and dev cloud for inspiration for getting Aegir easier to use |
| [07:18:41] | <darthsteven> | seeing how/if they handle 'platforms' and 'sites' |
| [07:18:44] | <anarcat> | yeah, they really have their shit together |
| [07:19:03] | <darthsteven> | but that's it from me |
| [07:19:07] | <darthsteven> | anyone else? |
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| [07:19:12] | <anarcat> | hadsie ? omega8cc ? |
| [07:19:31] | <anarcat> | don't be shy, we'd love to hear you talk about your aegir work! :) |
| [07:19:32] | <omega8cc> | I have a ton of patches collected for nginx config, ready to submit, but who will have a time to review them? mig5 maybe? :) |
| [07:19:52] | <omega8cc> | Anyway, it is a first step to fully (finally) sync my already fork with upstream before I will be able to seriously get the .deb thing done for nginx folks right, which is the next step to get done. |
| [07:20:02] | <anarcat> | if they're marked as needs review, i may just do that, because i'm considering a 1.7 release with the pack module :) |
| [07:20:24] | <anarcat> | nice, we should talk |
| [07:20:33] | <omega8cc> | ok, expect a flood there :) |
| [07:20:35] | <omega8cc> | And that is it from me, I guess. |
| [07:20:39] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:20:55] | <anarcat> | so unless hadsie or anyone else has something to add, i guess we can close this scrum |
| [07:21:00] | <anarcat> | and thank you everyone for attending! |
| [07:21:12] | <ergonlogic> | I'll post it to c.a.o |
| [07:21:14] | <hadsie> | sorry, stepped away for a moment :) |
| [07:21:14] | <anarcat> | who will be the lucky winner of a copy-paste grunt job? |
| [07:21:16] | <anarcat> | snap :) |
| [07:21:21] | <hadsie> | i don't have anything to say really |
| [07:21:28] | <anarcat> | alright, that's fine too :) |
| [07:21:36] | <anarcat> | thanks everyone |
| [07:21:38] | <anarcat> | so |
| [07:21:45] | <hadsie> | but anarcat, let me know if you want help on a module to make the files/ not be backed up and instead stored somewhere else :) |
| [07:21:46] | <anarcat> | who here thinks our cluster.module stinks? :) |
| [07:21:53] | <hadsie> | i need something like that for my own setups |
| [07:21:57] | <anarcat> | hadsie: i want help on a module to make the files/ not be backed up and instead stored somewhere else :P |
| [07:22:05] | <hadsie> | great :) |
| [07:22:10] | <darthsteven> | does anyone actually use the cluster stuff anyway? |
| [07:22:20] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: that's what i asked on the community site |
| [07:22:24] | <omega8cc> | it exists? lol |
| [07:22:26] | <anarcat> | and so far, i get a wall of silence |
| [07:22:34] | <anarcat> | i think i could just scrap it |
| [07:22:43] | <anarcat> | but i think it's a bit daring to do that in 1.x |
| [07:22:54] | <darthsteven> | hmmm…that's a big change to do in a point release |
| [07:22:59] | <w7u64xi71> | what domain host name ment by here: |
| [07:22:59] | <w7u64xi71> | Enter domain host name |
| [07:22:59] | <w7u64xi71> | Ex: server01.example.com |
| [07:23:12] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: agreed |
| [07:23:20] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: so so far the patch creates a totally independent "pack" module |
| [07:23:22] | <w7u64xi71> | it is on linode steakscriptid=1027 |
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| [07:23:33] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i didn't take the "arrack" name, sorry :P |
| [07:23:59] | <darthsteven> | w7u64xi71: maybe the hostname of your server, i.e. the domain name you plan to host there? |
| [07:24:05] | <anarcat> | so maybe i'll just go ahead with that and assume people will choose their path or something |
| [07:24:06] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: hehe |
| [07:24:13] | <anarcat> | now |
| [07:24:19] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: how ready is the d7 port? |
| [07:24:27] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: and what's in 2.x anyways? :) |
| [07:24:29] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: could we add pack to 1.7, deprecate cluster and remove it in 2.x |
| [07:24:33] | <anarcat> | is anyone running 2.x? |
| [07:24:40] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: that makes sense |
| [07:24:45] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: D7 port is miles off frankly |
| [07:24:50] | <anarcat> | although "pack" is a much less intuitive name than "cluster" |
| [07:24:58] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: but hoping to make good inroads in the next few months |
| [07:25:07] | <anarcat> | but it seems to me it's the safest path |
| [07:25:10] | <omega8cc> | we run everything on 2.x |
| [07:25:14] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i see |
| [07:25:21] | <anarcat> | good to hear *someone* is using it :P |
| [07:25:31] | <anarcat> | i got cold feet, i run only production releases |
| [07:25:36] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: 6.x-2.x is mostly the same, apart from provision, which has had significant refactoring |
| [07:25:47] | <anarcat> | but hey, *someone* has to test those tags before we push them out to the world ;) |
| [07:25:50] | <omega8cc> | all boa world has been forced to use it and debug :p |
| [07:25:51] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: the autoloading stuff? |
| [07:26:04] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: yup, that's the major change right now |
| [07:26:08] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [07:26:21] | <darthsteven> | oh, I also found a bug in hosting_queue_runner |
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| [07:26:27] | <anarcat> | i think we could consider 2.x to just be that, + D7 + drush 5 |
| [07:26:36] | <darthsteven> | or rather a bug in PHP |
| [07:26:36] | <anarcat> | it's huge enough as a change without rewriting the whole damn thing |
| [07:26:48] | <anarcat> | plus it gives us a closer horizon on when we can release that thing |
| [07:27:04] | <darthsteven> | I suspect the D7 port will be a small amount of re-write for the frontend |
| [07:27:17] | <darthsteven> | as most of the techniques and code is from the D5 era really |
| [07:27:19] | <anarcat> | so 2.x would be autoloaded classes, Drush 5 and Drupal 7, in that order of priority ;) |
| [07:27:25] | <anarcat> | yup |
| [07:27:26] | <darthsteven> | no-one stores their own data any more |
| [07:27:35] | <noecc> | w7u64xi71: That stackscript is seriously outdated. Don't use it. |
| [07:27:41] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: agree with that priority |
| [07:27:48] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:27:55] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: your puppet modules for Aegir, what do they do? |
| [07:28:00] | <anarcat> | so maybe we should update that roadmap, if we have one :P |
| [07:28:28] | <w7u64xi71> | any one here interested to help me install it on linode.com |
| [07:28:29] | <anarcat> | i'll update this page: http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0 |
| [07:28:30] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: right now, all they do is install Aegir from the .debs |
| [07:28:33] | <w7u64xi71> | it is an xen |
| [07:28:55] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: awesome |
| [07:29:03] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: we're looking at making them install aegir *without* .debs *too* |
| [07:29:17] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: so basically, they could replace parts of the python scripts we have now for jenkins... |
| [07:29:35] | <darthsteven> | indeed |
| [07:30:16] | <darthsteven> | well, Pergola is a bunch of puppet scripts in a git repo with a python wrapper to run them and puppet sets up a 'high performance' server for Drupal |
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| [07:30:41] | <darthsteven> | our roadmap for that includes having a simple config for making your server a Aegir master |
| [07:30:45] | <darthsteven> | or a Aegir slave |
| [07:31:10] | <anarcat> | interesting |
| [07:31:11] | <darthsteven> | so I'm very interested in puppet doing things with Aegir |
| [07:31:14] | <anarcat> | seems like our work is overlapping |
| [07:31:25] | <anarcat> | what's an aegir slave? |
| [07:31:49] | <darthsteven> | as in, a server that is controlled by another Aegir master server |
| [07:31:58] | <darthsteven> | remote server == slave server |
| [07:32:22] | <anarcat> | ok, it is not necessarily running the hostmaster frontend? |
| [07:32:27] | <darthsteven> | which boils down to adding DB creds, SSH Key and opening ports |
| [07:32:28] | <darthsteven> | yup |
| [07:32:31] | <darthsteven> | exactly that |
| [07:32:44] | <darthsteven> | the spoke of the hub and spoke |
| [07:32:56] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:32:59] | <anarcat> | well, i need to fix that here |
| [07:33:07] | <anarcat> | i was thinking of refactoring the debian packages to make that easier |
| [07:33:22] | <anarcat> | i updated the documentation at least: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/396 |
| [07:33:31] | <darthsteven> | but you don't actually need to install Aegir on the remote server |
| [07:33:33] | <anarcat> | then i would turn that documentation in a postinst |
| [07:33:36] | <anarcat> | right |
| [07:33:44] | <anarcat> | i would just have a aegir-web-frontend package |
| [07:34:00] | <anarcat> | that would hack at your fstab, your ssh keys, sudoers file and apache config, and that's it |
| [07:34:24] | <darthsteven> | ah right |
| [07:34:35] | <anarcat> | then i was also thinking that the apache Depends in teh hostmaster debian package could be a Recommends |
| [07:34:37] | <anarcat> | a bit like mysql-server is |
| [07:35:20] | <darthsteven> | probably should be that way |
| [07:35:45] | <anarcat> | this also touches the work omega8cc will have to do to support nginx there too |
| [07:35:54] | <anarcat> | so alright, we seem to be in agreement there |
| [07:35:59] | <anarcat> | i may build that package in the coming week |
| [07:37:09] | <ergonlogic> | so that would be a *new* package, then? aegir-web-frontend? |
| [07:37:13] | <darthsteven> | I have a ton of stuff that I need to write-up really, going to spend a lot of time documenting stuff that I've been up to |
| [07:37:45] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: yeah, basically |
| [07:37:58] | <omega8cc> | yep, I'm working on making this nginx part really simple, as it is now really too fragile to pack it in deb or things like that |
| [07:38:02] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: keep me in the loop! we seem to be doing some similar work |
| [07:38:22] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: btw, the puppet modules are on d.o: http://drupal.org/project/puppet-aegir & http://drupal.org/project/puppet-drush |
| [07:38:22] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: yup, need to keep the whole community in the loop :) |
| [07:38:28] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [07:38:29] | <anarcat> | right |
| [07:38:34] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: yeah, already have those bookmarked |
| [07:38:36] | <anarcat> | nothing like a good ol post on c.a.o :) |
| [07:38:40] | <ergonlogic> | :) |
| [07:38:45] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:38:53] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: and what about the idea of using puppet from jenkins? thoughts? |
| [07:39:12] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i have the beginning of a patch for nginx support, quite trivial |
| [07:39:23] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: |
| [07:39:24] | <anarcat> | -Depends: ${misc:Depends}, drush (>= 4.3), drush-make, php5-mysql, apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, aegir-provision (>= ${source:Version}), git-core, unzip |
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| [07:39:27] | <anarcat> | +Depends: ${misc:Depends}, drush (>= 4.3), drush-make, php5-mysql, apache2 | nginx, libapache2-mod-php5 | php5-fpm, aegir-provision (>= ${source:Version}), git-core, unzip |
| [07:40:09] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: puppet is a little memory hungry, but I like it, so it's better than bash scripting for sure |
| [07:40:29] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: indeed, it doesn't look like a rocket science, nice! |
| [07:40:35] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: the other bit that needs to change is in provision/debian/aegir-provision.postinst : # make sure we have apache configs settled in, for remote headless aegir servers |
| [07:40:47] | <anarcat> | there's a bunch of code there, and maybe it just needs to be moved to the hostmaster package anyways |
| [07:41:22] | <anarcat> | because as i read this now, it just hooks aegir's config in apache.conf, but doesn't create a @server or verify it or anything |
| [07:41:39] | <omega8cc> | I will take a closer look then |
| [07:41:42] | <anarcat> | so i think a first step could be to move this to aegir-hostmaster.postinst |
| [07:41:46] | <anarcat> | but regardless |
| [07:42:30] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i have worked on this on packages that needed to support both apache and apache2 in debian, and basically, i test to see if /usr/bin/apache2 (or whatever) exists and then configure it if it does |
| [07:42:34] | <anarcat> | same could be done with nginx |
| [07:42:58] | <anarcat> | alright, thanks folks, this was a productive sprint! |
| [07:43:04] | <anarcat> | oh and btw |
| [07:43:28] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic is silent about this for some reason, but i'll speak out - he's becoming way more knowledgable about scrums and sprints and agile than i am |
| [07:43:42] | <anarcat> | so i could very well see our friend ergonlogic hosting those sprints with a more formal agile approach in the future :) |
| [07:44:03] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: :p |
| [07:44:34] | <ergonlogic> | fwiw, my principle work lately has been on an OA feature for Scrum |
| [07:44:51] | <ergonlogic> | so I've been reading up |
| [07:44:58] | <darthsteven> | ah awesome |
| [07:45:36] | <ergonlogic> | seeing as how openatria.com is a SaaS Open Atrium service, I figure we should use OA ourselves |
| [07:45:42] | <ergonlogic> | but casetracker kinda sucks |
| [07:46:01] | * anarcat nods |
| [07:46:03] | * anarcat hugs redmine |
| [07:46:11] | <ergonlogic> | I'll probably have an alpha out this week, for anyone interested |
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| [07:47:58] | <ergonlogic> | one feature I'm particularly keen on building is to be able to track d.o issues in Atrium Scrum |
| [07:48:33] | <ergonlogic> | but that said, I don't know that there'd be any benefit to formalizing these sprints |
| [07:49:49] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: you might be interested in: http://drupal.org/node/112805 then |
| [07:49:50] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/112805 => JSON menu callback for project issues => Project issue tracking, User interface, normal, needs work, 63 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [07:52:01] | <anarcat> | how does the name aegir-web-frontend sound? |
| [07:52:23] | <anarcat> | for the debian package that gets installed on slave aegir servers? |
| [07:52:47] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: but you're not installing the fronted on those servers? |
| [07:52:52] | <anarcat> | no |
| [07:52:55] | <anarcat> | that is confusing isn't it |
| [07:52:59] | <anarcat> | aegir-web-slave? |
| [07:53:04] | <anarcat> | aegir-pack-slave? |
| [07:53:06] | <anarcat> | aegir-cluster-slave? |
| [07:53:10] | <darthsteven> | -remote |
| [07:53:18] | <anarcat> | well that's the thing |
| [07:53:18] | <darthsteven> | we don't use slave anywhere else in the UI |
| [07:53:21] | <anarcat> | remote is ambiguous |
| [07:53:26] | <darthsteven> | but we do use remote :) |
| [07:53:27] | <anarcat> | remote may be light or heavy |
| [07:53:33] | <darthsteven> | true |
| [07:53:36] | <anarcat> | currently, remotes are all heavy |
| [07:53:39] | <darthsteven> | -slave then |
| [07:53:40] | <anarcat> | i call them masters |
| [07:53:45] | <darthsteven> | :) |
| [07:53:46] | <anarcat> | lightweights are slaves |
| [07:53:51] | <anarcat> | but maybe i could rename that too |
| [07:53:56] | <anarcat> | and just call them light and heavy :P |
| [07:54:26] | <darthsteven> | I'm up for re-naming in 2.x :) |
| [07:54:51] | <anarcat> | well, i'm creating new names now |
| [07:55:00] | <anarcat> | so we can "rename" right now, i'm still only in a dev branch :) |
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| [07:56:03] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: thanks for the link... it's exactly what I'll need |
| [07:56:17] | <anarcat> | so |
| [07:56:22] | <anarcat> | aegir-cluster-light? |
| [07:56:25] | <anarcat> | or aegir-cluster-slave? |
| [07:56:44] | <darthsteven> | aegir-cluster-light-or-maybe-remote-not-heavy-but-light-slave-web |
| [07:56:52] | <anarcat> | damn :) |
| [07:57:14] | <darthsteven> | aegir-cluster-slave |
| [07:57:14] | <anarcat> | aegir-remote-not-heavy-but-light-web |
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| [07:57:17] | <anarcat> | impressive :) |
| [07:57:20] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [07:57:20] | <darthsteven> | has more meaning |
| [07:57:23] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [07:57:45] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: there are a lot of possibilities that patch would open up |
| [07:59:30] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: indeed, I haven't read through the whole thing yet |
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| [08:00:53] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: I'm looking for something pretty light though, probably with feeds_jsonpath_parser |
| [08:01:09] | <ergonlogic> | some of the version_control_git stuff would be nice too |
| [08:01:23] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, all wishlist stuff for the time-being... |
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| [08:06:12] | <anarcat> | darthsteven / mig5 : i have updated the roadmap to reflect what we discussed today: http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0 |
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| [08:41:56] | <cweagans> | omega8cc: ping |
| [08:42:39] | <cweagans> | omega8cc: Just reading the scrum notes from earlier: is there anything I can do to help out with the Debian package for Aegir + Nginx? |
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| [08:44:21] | <cweagans> | darthsteven: also from the scrum notes, I saw that you were working on something called Pergola, and I'd love to hear more about it - I wasn't able to find it anywhere :( |
| [08:44:48] | <cweagans> | darthsteven: NEVERMIND. found it. |
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| [09:03:59] | <mig5> | yay, missed the scrum again :( |
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| [09:28:50] | <darthsteven> | It was a good one too |
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| [09:36:11] | <mig5> | 15:09 anarcat@> so far i came up with the idea that files/ should be a symlink to a version-controlled storage |
| [09:36:18] | <mig5> | not sure that should be a version controlled dir |
| [09:36:49] | <mig5> | files gets uploads on an ad-hoc basis, so they go out of sync with VCS and should therefore be backed up |
| [09:37:18] | <mig5> | unless you're writing some crazy shit that automatically git add/commit every file that lands there |
| [09:38:51] | <mig5> | pergola sounds interesting |
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| [10:14:20] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell cweagans: any help is appreciated, thanks! I will ping you as soon as we will work on this, since first we need to simplify current config and add microcaching with cookie key by default :) |
| [10:14:24] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when cweagans is around. |
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| [10:14:42] | <omega8cc> | hefring: botsnack |
| [10:14:42] | <hefring> | mmm... provisions |
| [10:15:13] | <mig5> | omega8cc: did you have any opinion here? http://drupal.org/node/1369608 |
| [10:15:14] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1369608 => Provision shoudl add extra config for nginx ssl hosts => Provision, Code, normal, needs review, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [10:15:19] | <mig5> | looks like a simple patch |
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| [10:17:14] | <mig5> | thansk :) |
| [10:17:16] | <mig5> | thanks* |
| [10:17:38] | <omega8cc> | mig5: I totally forgot about that! :) |
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| [10:32:55] | <mig5> | man i must be doing something wrong with my nginx aegir test machine |
| [10:33:24] | <mig5> | have to comment out 'listen <ip>:80' in the main aegir.conf or else i get a 404 when trying to view url of my aegir frontend |
| [10:33:28] | <mig5> | but a server verify puts it back in |
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| [10:41:44] | <mig5> | omega8cc: any idea why that is? nginx inserts a server _; vhost snippet into the main nginx.conf that binds to my only IPv4 IP:80 |
| [10:41:46] | <omega8cc> | mig5: check if you have ip:80 in main config and all vhosts, and there is no *:80 anywhere, it shouldn't be, but it may be the reason of confusion |
| [10:41:49] | <mig5> | snap |
| [10:42:06] | <mig5> | well, it's that the main vhost inserts this default server, which overrules the later one in the vhost |
| [10:42:10] | <mig5> | oh |
| [10:42:19] | <mig5> | it's because my FQDN is the same as my aegir frontend url :) |
| [10:42:22] | <mig5> | bad practice on my part :) |
| [10:42:32] | <mig5> | naturally then the server _; is picking up that request |
| [10:42:57] | <omega8cc> | in short it has to use either *:80 or ip:80 everywhere, or some things/vhosts/server will take precedence |
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| [10:43:04] | <omega8cc> | ah |
| [10:43:25] | <mig5> | :) |
| [10:43:30] | <mig5> | i had a noob moment |
| [10:44:36] | <mig5> | hmm, maybe that's not the issue |
| [10:44:37] | <omega8cc> | mig5: there is was related issue in the past, but it has been fixed: http://drupal.org/node/1183500 |
| [10:44:37] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1183500 => The IP address in the Nginx vhost can be empty, which breaks http server configuration completely => Provision, Code, critical, closed (fixed), 4 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [10:45:51] | <mig5> | sorted |
| [10:45:55] | <omega8cc> | mig5: possible reason of this wtf: http://drupal.org/node/1183500#comment-4581420 |
| [10:45:55] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1183500 => The IP address in the Nginx vhost can be empty, which breaks http server configuration completely => Provision, Code, critical, closed (fixed), 4 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [10:46:02] | <mig5> | i was right after all, but forgot i'd hacked something in my vhost |
| [10:46:28] | <mig5> | yeah it doesn't like a mix of *:80 and <ip>:80 - but that's same as apache really |
| [10:47:19] | <omega8cc> | ah, there is no app for your custom hack :) |
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| [10:50:34] | <mig5> | omega8cc: does drush 4.5 work ok with older barracuda instances? |
| [10:50:40] | <mig5> | client has just deleted his /var/aegir/drush directory.. |
| [10:50:58] | <mig5> | i don't know what version of barracuda this is |
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| [10:55:21] | <omega8cc> | mig5: check /var/aegir/config/includes/barracuda_log.txt |
| [10:55:31] | <omega8cc> | ah |
| [10:55:57] | <omega8cc> | mig5: this file will tell you barracuda version |
| [10:56:13] | <mig5> | Thu Jul 28 08:04:33 UTC 2011 / Ubuntu.lucid x86_64 XEN / Aegir 1.0-boa-T-8.8 / Barracuda 1.0-boa-T-8.8 / Nginx 1.0.4 / PHP 5.2.17 / MariaDB aegir.geoport.com.au / SpeedWild YES-NO |
| [10:56:20] | <omega8cc> | mig5: then I will be able to confirm whicg drush version was there |
| [10:56:24] | <omega8cc> | k |
| [10:56:26] | <omega8cc> | one sec |
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| [10:57:43] | <omega8cc> | mig5: it was 7.x-4.4 in 1.0-boa-T-8.8 |
| [10:58:00] | <mig5> | thanks |
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