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[11:06:49]<drakythe>joestewart: Okay... new hiccup, if you have a moment. My new server verification step is failing on my old aegir. Its failing on the rsync because its trying to rsync ":/" which it doesn't have access to, why is it trying that?
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[11:08:33]<joestewart>drakythe: idk, but doesn't look right.
[11:09:31]<drakythe>joestewart: Yeah, thats what I thought. Interesting...
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[11:41:13]<drakythe>joestewart: No idea... but I got it working, I edited the server to use mysql, I forgot that the first time and it verified fine (after I sorted out a firewall snafu) but hey, I have an secondary server up now :D
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[15:23:50]<berniecram>hey mig5 I manually applied the d8 patch here: http://drupal.org/node/1372122#comment-5436932 to my 7.12 platform and have successfully cloned the site, no more PDOException. :)
[15:23:51]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1372122 => STOP the registry integrity constraint violation nightmare => Drupal core, base system, critical, needs review, 15 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[15:25:36]<rovo>berniecram: you can't clone d 7.12 sites in aegir?
[15:26:43]<berniecram>rovo: I couldn't but not due to aegir, it seems to be a misc sql error
[15:27:29]<rovo>berniecram: interesting, most likely the same for mariaDB im sure
[15:29:29]<berniecram>rovo: I'm not very tech and mig5 was helping me to try to manually copy the site from the pre migrate backup because I couldn't clone once it was on 7.12
[15:30:12]<rovo>berniecram: oh, so were you upgrading from a previous version to 7.12?
[15:31:53]<berniecram>yes, went from 7.something to 7.11 to 7.12 but there was menu_block issue with 7.12, since patched, but then couldn't do anything else due to sql error
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[16:24:32]<HaloFX>Any Barracuda or Nginx folks in tonight? I am having an annoying caching issue and wondering if it is Nginx or Barracuda?
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[16:38:34]<simesy_work>cool, just bought some omega8.cc hosting
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[16:47:09]<HaloFX>simesy_work: Did you go for the SSD?
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[16:48:40]<simesy_work>Hi HaloFX. I purchased standard but had been told we would get SSD out of Singapore. i don't really mind.
[16:49:51]<simesy_work>More itching to get some server action :)
[16:50:09]<HaloFX>simesy_work: cool. Kinda of curious. I am running Barracuda on my local dev VM server off an SSD.
[16:50:21]<simesy_work>Usual host is all Redhat and they make a dogs breakfast of everything.
[16:50:47]<simesy_work>finally get some debian back at my fingers
[16:50:53]<simesy_work>HaloFX: what is your opinion?
[16:51:03]<HaloFX>Just put a bullet in my last Redhat VPS last week. What a pain.
[16:52:11]<simesy_work>yay
[16:53:09]<HaloFX>The Server its self runs on 10K Raptor drives, and there were a couple VMs on a separate set of 7200rpm WD black drives. I would occasionally get a bunch of thrashing for no apparent reason. Occasionally top would point at mysql, although everything else was idle.
[16:54:35]<HaloFX>I moved just the VM files off to a single SSD and everything smoothed out nicely! That is also when I switched over to using Barracuda for Dev. So not sure how much was Maria or the SSD to be honest. But Barracuda on an SSD is blazing!
[16:56:32]<simesy_work>Yes, I had heard about reliability issues (i'm a hardware hack btw) but I'll take speed in exchange... i guess. Or really it's a trial, the site won't be that heavy and it gives the team here a chance to feel more in control.
[16:57:22]<HaloFX>Only issue I am having is when theming. I have followed all the guides to disable the caching, but for some reason when I alter a CSS file, the altered file will not render for 20sec to 60sec. After several refreshes it pops in. It is making theming tedious.
[16:58:33]<HaloFX>The SSD I am using is a left over from a recent workstation upgrade, it is backed up daily. I am curious to see how much the database activity effects its life span.
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[17:00:14]<HaloFX>File transfers between my workstation with an SSD and the VM on an SSD over the gigabyte Ethernet almost make me giggle at times!
[17:01:33]<HaloFX>Now if Google will get with it rolling out Gigabyte fiber ....
[17:03:25]<simesy_work>:)
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[17:06:42]<simesy_work>Hey, i'm just surprised that they don't say on the product page "Single dedicated public IP address" surely we won't be given a shared IP address...
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[17:13:30]<mig5>simesy_work: don't think that would happen..
[17:13:30]<hefring>mig5: 16 hours 53 min ago <omega8cc> tell mig5: and what will be next? see: http://twitter.com/omega8cc/status/166873230232133634
[17:13:39]<mig5>hah..
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[17:15:09]<simesy_work>thanks mig5, heart in mouth then cos earlier I was telling the guys "yeah no doubt it has a dedicated IP" hehe
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[23:29:23]<dgtlmoon>greets
[23:29:44]<dgtlmoon>i have installed phpmyadmin but get error 500 when it tries to access /etc/phpmyadmin/conf.inc , ideas?
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[00:05:20]<eugenmayer>anarcat: looking at http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0#Multi-server_improvements currently. As i have implemented most of the thing you mention in the early paragraphs - i would not advice to take this approach as a base for the future of aegir
[00:05:20]<hefring>eugenmayer: 4 months 3 weeks ago <darthsteven> tell eugenmayer If you want to raise issues for these bugs that you find then they will get fixed, otherwise they'll just live on in the IRC logs
[00:06:51]<eugenmayer>anarcat: i think you might share a look to drush deploy, which can help aegir to reduce its own code size and actually use a more know approach for deploy / test / rollback, as its mostly the capistrano way ..instead of implementing it by hand ( as it is right now … and the rollback is basicly, well lets say a nice toy )
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[00:08:02]<eugenmayer>anarcat: just though i mention that, as you did not mention drush deploy
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[01:43:10]<AdamDK>I'm having trouble updating modules with the command drush update views with the aegir user
[01:43:57]<AdamDK>receiving this error: Command pm-update needs a higher bootstrap level to run - you will need invoke drush from a more functional Drupal environment to run this command.
[01:45:27]<AdamDK>have done this before with out any problems, any ideas?
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[01:53:05]<anarcat>eugenmayer: by gosh you're back!
[01:53:11]<anarcat>eugenmayer: i am aware of drush deploy, thanks
[01:53:25]<eugenmayer>Cool.
[01:54:25]<anarcat>that roadmap is a bit ambitious, right now our focus is more on porting to drush 5
[01:54:48]<anarcat>i would also rather support the new drush archive format than rewire our whole migration process
[01:54:50]<eugenmayer>drush 5 is then d7 aegir i guess ( thats on the roadmap, i ahve seen )
[01:55:30]<eugenmayer>anarcat: i would actually, no offence, ditch like any line of migrate / clone / backup and use better tools for it.I think you called it "modularization" in your roadmap
[01:56:18]<eugenmayer>anarcat: Drush 5 is awesome. Maybe, with drush deploy and some extra "transport" thoughts you can get very far with aegir, wile having to write a lot of code of all.
[01:56:30]<anarcat>it's easy to say what others should do
[01:56:42]<anarcat>for example, i believe that i would, actually, no offence, do it yourself
[01:57:39]<eugenmayer>i did. So iam not just giving advices. Anyway, i see, as usual, we are getting in the wrong direction. You though about drush deploy, so well thats it. Just keep on
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[02:00:07]<anarcat>you did? that's great
[02:00:10]<anarcat>where is the code?
[02:05:15]<eugenmayer>anarcat: well, as always, a perfect start we had :) Anyhow, have a nice day
[02:05:33]<anarcat>you do
[02:05:35]<anarcat>you too
[02:05:39]<eugenmayer>Bye
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[02:15:25]<anarcat>09:57:38 <eugenmayer> i did. So iam not just giving advices.
[02:15:28]<anarcat>bull.
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[02:16:19]<joestewart>anarcat: good morning :) In your pack setup are you using varnish or another proxy?, any ssl on load balancer?
[02:16:34]<anarcat>no yes no :)
[02:16:41]<anarcat>we're using BSD's relayd
[02:16:49]<anarcat>i think it *can* do SSL but we don't do that yet
[02:16:58]<anarcat>it's quite unfortunate that varnish can't do SSL eh?
[02:18:23]<joestewart>gotcha. is the apache still on port 80? wondering if you've given thought about that ticket http://drupal.org/node/1047174
[02:18:24]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1047174 => Reverse proxy support => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, needs work, 22 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[02:18:32]<AdamDK>any advise on fixing drush update?
[02:18:48]<noecc>anarcat: eugen has the same attitude over at chiliproject.
[02:18:52]<anarcat>https://www.varnish-cache.org/docs/trunk/phk/ssl.html
[02:18:57]<joestewart>yes, we're trying to move ssl to lb so still have varnish for images.
[02:19:02]<anarcat>noecc: he has the same attitude everywhere
[02:19:08]<anarcat>see drush
[02:19:19]<anarcat>i thought he had left for good, and was happy about that
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[02:19:39]<anarcat>while he did make a few good points about the architecture, the cost/benefit ratio is too high for us
[02:19:44]<anarcat>we don't need trolls, we need code
[02:19:53]<anarcat>and he provided too much of the former, not enough of the latter
[02:20:07]<anarcat>joestewart: i looked at it before
[02:20:13]<anarcat>so far, apache is still on port 80
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[02:20:29]<anarcat>we're not running varnish, but if we would, it would be on a different server anyways
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[02:20:34]<AdamDK>drush dl module is working fine, but unable to do a drush update module
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[02:20:36]<anarcat>so this is a bit seperated
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[02:21:05]<joestewart>so no problem for you. Really the main annoyance for me is the aegir "home" links have the different port.
[02:21:37]<anarcat>right
[02:21:47]<anarcat>do you have a patch yet? :)
[02:21:53]<anarcat>i see it's needs work, but i don't remember what's missing
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[02:25:13]<joestewart>I'll keep it in mind while testing the pack stuff. Which I hope to work on before Drupalcon.
[02:28:11]<anarcat>mig5 / darthsteven : this is interesting: https://www.varnish-cache.org/docs/trunk/phk/platforms.html
[02:28:26]<anarcat>joestewart: i hope to merge it in 1.7
[02:28:37]<joestewart>awesome
[02:29:55]<joestewart>AdamDK: are you running drush as the aegir user?
[02:32:38]<AdamDK>joestewart: yes I'm using the aegir user
[02:33:23]<AdamDK>in terminal: sudo -i
[02:34:05]<AdamDK>followed by:su -s /bin/bash - aegir
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[02:34:43]<AdamDK>then navigate to /var/aegir/platform/drupal7.9
[02:35:03]<AdamDK>and from there drush update views
[02:35:10]<joestewart>need to be in a site to update or pass an alias
[02:36:40]<AdamDK>sorry i don't get that
[02:36:58]<AdamDK>I can do a: drush dl view
[02:38:19]<AdamDK>from that folder
[02:40:38]<AdamDK>I can't drush up from a platform?
[02:45:20]<joestewart>AdamDK: the drush faq doesn't have anchor tags on each item, but http://www.drush.org/faq has this question - Do I need a Drupal site with a valid database to upgrade extensions (aka modules/themes)?
[02:45:36]<joestewart>I thought there was more explanation somewhere easy.
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[02:48:53]<AdamDK>joestewart: thanks for your time, I'll have a look at that.
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[02:59:33]<joestewart>AdamDK: np. are you familiar with the more "aegir" way of upgrading by creating a new platform and migrating the site?
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[03:01:55]<pyrello>Hello, I recently had to restore my linode server from a backup image. Now, I seem to be unable to create clones of my existing sites. I wanted to double check what permissions/ownership I should be seeing on the sites/www.example.com directory.
[03:02:42]<pyrello>I am getting this error: "Could not generate database backup from mysqldump. (error: mysqldump: Can't create/write to file…"
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[04:26:19]<Circlefusion>Last week, I disabled purge and cache expiration modules because there was a bug in cache expiration that prevented content from being editable (threw a 505 error) This week, both modules are turned back on. The client is only using an "editor" role, so they couldn't have done it. Is there something in Aegir that auto-enables certain modules?
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[05:11:35]<Circlefusion>it's not set in the global.inc, I know that
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[07:36:37]<Circlefusion>ah... "The module - expires - is re-enabled daily via cron, causing the error to reappear."
[07:36:39]<Circlefusion>I see
[07:36:44]<Circlefusion>that is from http://drupal.org/node/1427668
[07:36:45]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1427668 => Fatal error: Call to undefined function db_result() in expire.module on line 493 => Cache Expiration, Code, major, active, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[08:44:10]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/project/aegir_rules
[08:44:13]<anarcat>cool project name :)
[08:45:40]<mig5>haha
[08:46:37]<anarcat>so i just merged the pack stuff into mainline
[08:46:47]<anarcat>that is, 6.x-1.x, debian and 7.x-2.x
[08:46:51]<mig5>whoa
[08:46:53]<mig5>ah
[08:47:03]<mig5>yay fail
[08:47:07]<anarcat>uh
[08:47:11]<anarcat>oookay?
[08:47:36]<mig5>dch: fatal error at line 984:
[08:47:36]<mig5>New version specified (1.6+9.g6ddb95c-1+36.ga63c1de) is less than
[08:47:36]<mig5>the current version number (1.6+webpack-1)! Use -b to force.
[08:47:43]<mig5>debian braindamage :)
[08:48:24]<hefring>Git => fix syntax error => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/fb36ca7a8a642af5...
[08:48:24]<hefring>Git => Merge branch 'dev-webpack' into 6.x-2.x => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/8514e3df93084bcc4...
[08:48:24]<hefring>Git => Merge branch 'dev-webpack1x' into 6.x-1.x => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/6ddb95c19fdf516f2...
[08:48:37]<anarcat>crap
[08:48:42]<anarcat>i know i would blow something up
[08:48:43]<anarcat>oh well
[08:48:48]<anarcat>it will unbreak when we make 1.7
[08:49:04]<anarcat>although hum
[08:49:14]<anarcat>i sure hope the D_aegir-debian-official doesn't upload straight to stable
[08:52:23]<drakythe>So... having succesfully navigated installing an aegir system and then an aegir server, how does one create a platform on that aegir system? I don't mean the front end things, how does the backend stuff work, like drush make etc?
[08:53:32]<drakythe>sorry, on the slave aegir server, I mean
[08:54:00]<fatguylaughing>I get this when trying to do a drush make. "The drush command 'make platform.make' could not be found. A Drupal installation directory could not be found"
[08:54:33]<anarcat>sweet
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[09:03:01]<anarcat>wait, will this thing repeatedly try to build the darn project?
[09:05:44]<mig5>we'll find out!
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[09:06:23]<mig5>nah, different set of commits apparently. weird
[09:06:36]<mig5>compare http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/D_aegir-debian-auto/131/ with http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/D_aegir-debian-auto/132/
[09:06:46]<anarcat>oh well
[09:08:27]<drakythe>So... having succesfully navigated installing an aegir system and then an aegir server, how does one create a platform on that aegir system? I don't mean the front end things, how does the backend stuff work, like drush make etc?
[09:11:55]<halcyonCorsair>drakythe: http://mig5.net/content/manage-your-aegir-system-command-line
[09:13:22]<mig5>drakythe: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/446
[09:14:07]<mig5>oh, misread that you were using remotes
[09:14:09]<mig5>maybe not
[09:14:39]<drakythe>mig5: yeah... remotes are new to us over here, kinda fumbling in the dark
[09:14:56]<mig5>not sure what you meant by 'installing an aegir system and then an aegir server'
[09:15:03]<mig5>what is the distinguishing thing between these two here?
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[09:16:51]<drakythe>mig5: one of them is a remote server (ala http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30) the other is an actual aegir system
[09:17:16]<drakythe>what we're confused about is making a new platform that is on the remote server. I understand it from the front end, but was confused about using drush make on the remote server
[09:17:19]<drakythe>however
[09:18:20]<drakythe>we just futzed our way through it by running drush make on the Aegir box, then creating the platform from the front end on the remote server. It appears to have rsynced the files from one to the other
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[09:18:43]<drakythe>so... do we need to keep the original platform folder structure or can we get rid of it in favor of only keeping it on the box it needs to be on?
[09:21:09]<drakythe>mig5: okay, now I feel a little silly, just found the paragraph with the direction on that site. However my final question still stands. Do we need to keep the platform files on both the Remote Server and the Aegir server?
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[09:27:57]<mig5>drakythe: yes
[09:28:08]<mig5>the main aegir server holds the 'master' copy, where changes must happen first
[09:28:16]<mig5>and a Verify of the platform will sync those changes out to the remote server.
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[09:29:03]<mig5>if oyu use the UI, it should be seamless, because any change to the code should really be through a drush makefile, and you can just add a new platform to the remote server in the Platform form and use the 'makefile' field and it will build and sync it out for you :)
[09:29:23]<mig5>then you migrate your site onto the new platform and effectively upgrade it onto the changed codebase, which allows it to rollback if something screws up
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[09:30:26]<drakythe>mig5: makes sense
[09:31:43]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: whats the issue # for that drush vs. core update bug?
[09:31:45]<drakythe>mig5: thanks
[09:33:16]<mig5>halcyonCorsair: http://drupal.org/node/1425868
[09:33:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1425868 => Duplicate entry of themes primary key in systems table of Drupal 6.24 (using Drush or Ægir) => Drupal core, base system, major, reviewed & tested by the community, 68 comments, 3 IRC mentions
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[09:35:47]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: cheers
[09:36:37]<fatguylaughing>mig5: Me and drakythe are getting this error when we try to provision a site to the remote server - The command could not be executed successfully (returned: sh: line 1: 23053 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php --php='/usr/bin/php' --client_email='techsupport@meridian-ds.com' @testing.aegir5.worxco.net provision-install-backend --backend 2>&1 , code: 139)
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[10:12:25]<fatguylaughing>anarcat: ping
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[10:22:42]<fatguylaughing>http://drupal.org/node/1433478 If anyone has a clue let me know :D
[10:22:42]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1433478 => Undefined offset: 1 backend.inc line 163 => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[10:43:25]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: Is this a drupal 6.24 platform?
[10:43:43]<fatguylaughing>7.12
[10:44:07]<fatguylaughing>Yeah me and drakythe are stumped atm
[10:44:39]<drakythe>theMusician: yeah, back on that Aegir Server I was working on yesterday, got it working, finally tried to provision a site. Segfault :(
[10:44:42]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: The site gets created, the database gets created and then all of a sudden booooom! and then it rolls back :)
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[10:45:47]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: Fun, I haven't seen that yet with 7.12. Are you able to run drush commands by hand?
[10:46:04]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Sure
[10:47:45]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: hmm.. it seems as if there is a breakdown with drush. I am still using 4.4, though I hear 4.5 is stable for use. Which version is your Aegir user running?
[10:48:12]<fatguylaughing>4.5 of drush
[10:48:15]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: ^
[10:49:16]* fatguylaughing has got ten mins left before he has to go :(
[10:49:26]<fatguylaughing>Might have to continue this tomorrow.
[10:49:42]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: omega8cc reported this https://drupal.org/node/1366084 and it is unresolved still. Darn.
[10:51:34]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Well I' made my issue in the provision project.
[10:51:52]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: http://drupal.org/node/1433478
[10:51:53]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1433478 => Undefined offset: 1 backend.inc line 163 => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[10:51:58]<fatguylaughing>Just added a new comment
[10:53:07]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: Can you make d6 sites without issue, drakythe said it would be used for d7 only but then you can rule out if php/drush is the issue.
[10:53:34]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Heh, so D6 sites aren't on the same server :)
[10:53:59]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: So that won't make a difference because it won't be the same drush running.
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[10:54:21]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: So we have a Aegir System and then a Remote Server
[10:54:38]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: The Aegir System handles the D6 and the aegir frontend.
[10:54:48]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: The Remote server handles the D7
[10:54:53]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: https://drupal.org/node/1231374 check this out
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[10:56:26]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Hrmm one sec :D
[10:56:48]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: I am running php 5.3.3 with no issues and a 256mb php mem limit
[10:57:23]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Well my php limit is -1 (unlimited)
[10:58:16]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: I didn't know you could set it like that. PHP version seems to be the crux of that thread.
[10:58:37]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Yeah I'll have to continue reading
[10:59:19]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: There are some good debugging ideas as well. Good luck, and I am sure you are close to having it solved.
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[10:59:46]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: Thanks for the help
[10:59:52]<fatguylaughing>theMusician: I might ping you tomorrow ;)