IRC logs for #aegir, 2012-02-09 (GMT)

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[11:00:11]<theMusician>fatguylaughing: Sounds good, and I'll be around for another hour, PST time where I work. :)
[11:00:21]<fatguylaughing>central here.
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[15:35:23]<anarcat>yes
[15:35:24]<anarcat>oops
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[17:25:21]<simesy_work>nice little system omega8 has got going
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[17:42:14]<simesy_work>mig5: it's wacky to be a locked down admin of an aegir instance
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[20:21:54]<omega8cc>messages?
[20:22:26]<omega8cc>kepford: pm?
[20:23:16]<omega8cc>ah, that is night there
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[21:34:06]<hefring>community => Cannot delete a site (domain folder is not writable) => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/cannot-delete-site-domain-fold...
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[23:58:13]<iler>Where (in the code) are the vhosts files created for sites in Aegir?
[00:12:39]<snlnz>iler: /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/
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[00:21:29]<Michlis>Hi Guys, can Aegir node (slave) run on a regular shared hosting with SSH and Drush installed, controlled by master on VPS?
[00:22:16]<Michlis> All aegir servers require at least VPS?
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[00:30:48]<mikl>Is there a way to get Aegir to rebuild your platform from the make file (ie. if the make file changed)?
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[00:37:03]<Michlis>What commands are required to rebuild platform?
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[00:37:30]<Michlis>I'm sure CLI is very limited on my shared hosting
[00:37:40]<Michlis>but Drush is running fine
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[01:25:32]<bgm>mikl: to rebuild a platform from a makefile, you need to create a new platform, then batch migrate your sites
[01:26:12]<mikl>bgm: *sigh* I had hope there was an easy way to do dev-sites
[01:26:17]<bgm>(otherwise, say you had live sites, it could break them until their upgrade is complete)
[01:27:00]<bgm>mikl: during dev, i just dev directly on the dev site.. (or git pull)
[01:27:22]<bgm>usually one site per platform (well, it's on my laptop, so I don't need to worry about other devs/clients)
[01:27:23]<mikl>bgm: yeah, but that doesn't really work for collaborative development of install profiles
[01:27:50]<bgm>mikl: install profiles, no. but collaborative dev: each dev should have their own environment, and push to staging, imho
[01:28:28]<bgm>although for install profiles, you can still use the same platform, imho, and just run "verify" on it
[01:28:40]<mikl>bgm: yeah, but if push to staging involves a new platform + migrate process, it becomes rather timeconsuming
[01:28:51]<bgm>(not sure though, but there are surely tons of discussion about this already on the community forums)
[01:29:16]<mikl>I've tried verify, it doesn't seem to re-run drush make
[01:29:38]<bgm>mikl: i'd push to staging once per week, for example. but depends on your team/project, of course.
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[05:52:55]<spyd>ergonlogic: do you folks do any custom theming work for Atrium?
[05:54:04]<ergonlogic>spyd: we have designers and themers, but I don't knwo how much experience they have with gingko/tao sub-theming
[05:54:14]<spyd>looks like it booted ok- everything still looking good to you?
[05:54:14]<ergonlogic>spyd: I'll ask though
[05:54:20]<spyd>whoops, misfire
[05:54:34]<spyd>ergonlogic: cool, thanks :)
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[06:26:15]<hefring>community => hosting_site.form.js -- site unusable, broken right out of the box => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/hostingsiteformjs-site-unusabl...
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[06:37:43]<ergonlogic>spyd: I haven't found any themers with direct experience theming OA (yet!), but we do have another such contract starting shortly
[06:38:10]<ergonlogic>spyd: and so, there's interest, on the part of our themer's, to develop such competencies
[06:40:29]<ergonlogic>spyd: is this related to the recent post on g.d.o?
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[06:43:05]<darthsteven>messages?
[06:43:11]<darthsteven>nobody loves me :(
[06:43:25]<darthsteven>VPS.net are lame
[06:43:28]<darthsteven>btw
[06:44:03]<anarcat>darthsteven: hi! :)
[06:44:06]<anarcat>we love you darthsteven ! ;)
[06:44:17]<anarcat>hey, btw, i merged the pack stuff into mainline
[06:44:17]<darthsteven>anarcat: thanks
[06:44:28]<anarcat>i wonder if we should make a release just for that
[06:44:34]<darthsteven>what did Jenkins make of it?
[06:44:36]<anarcat>there are like 1-2 small fixes sitting around too
[06:44:43]<anarcat>it freaks out over the debian package
[06:44:47]<darthsteven>It doesn't seem to like PHP 5.2 and Drupal 5 any more :(
[06:44:51]<anarcat>because i screwed up the version number
[06:44:54]<darthsteven>ah
[06:44:56]<anarcat>oh yeah?
[06:44:57]<spyd>ergonlogic: yes, directly related :)
[06:45:37]<darthsteven>there's an issue about one of the forms not working in IE that we should fix
[06:45:46]<ergonlogic>spyd: so, there's interest on Koumbit's part, and lots of general theming experience, but little to none directly with OA
[06:45:51]<darthsteven>as it'll just be some lame Javascript bug
[06:45:57]<darthsteven>and an easy fix
[06:46:23]<ergonlogic>spyd: lot's of OA experience, of course :) just not much with theming
[06:46:50]<darthsteven>http://drupal.org/node/1018596
[06:46:50]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1018596 => Aegir forms don't work in MSIE 8.0 (?) => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, active, 6 comments, 1 IRC mention
[06:47:02]<ergonlogic>spyd: do you think it's worth us pursuing? do you have an in with them?
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[07:14:35]<spyd>ergonlogic: OA expertise (in general) + Drupal theme knowledge may be sufficient- i don't have enough of either to know exactly why themeing OA is complicated, I just know that our previous in-house efforts failed (ie. broke the site)
[07:15:09]<spyd>ergonlogic: i do know anarcat at koumbit, and would welcome interest from any/all of you :)
[07:15:50]<ergonlogic>spyd: sure, how would you like to proceed?
[07:15:54]<mvc>spyd: i think you met ergonlogic (chris) at drupalcamp in toronto, in case you two haven't put that together yet :)
[07:16:27]<spyd>mvc: yes, indeed- hence the facepalm earlier (as I dug up chris' card from amid the piles on my desk)
[07:16:38]<mvc>ah :)
[07:16:40]<ergonlogic>:)
[07:17:37]<anarcat>hi spyd ! :)
[07:17:48]<spyd>ergonlogic: if you have someone with the skills and you have enough info, i'd say put a short proposal+budget together?
[07:18:02]<spyd>anarcat: hi! i really should spend more time in this channel ;p
[07:18:19]<spyd>but of course.. life intervenes
[07:18:55]<iler>snlnz: I know where they go but I asked where in code those vhosts are generated.
[07:19:21]<ergonlogic>spyd: k, I'll pass it along to our front-end group
[07:19:58]<spyd>ergonlogic: that's great, thanks :)
[07:20:12]<ergonlogic>spyd: do you have any more info though? without knowing what the design they want to implement looks like, I don't know how accurate our budget can be
[07:20:29]<ergonlogic>spyd: but then, I don't quote on theming projects :)
[07:20:32]<iler>Anyone could point me to right direction... In which part of the code the vhosts configuration files are generated?
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[07:21:15]<spyd>ergonlogic: well, we have some design mockups for our main site, and we have an example of a "nice" atrium site (the CSI community site) that we like
[07:21:30]<anarcat>spyd: eh :)
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[07:22:49]<spyd>ergonlogic: perhaps we should take this off-channel?
[07:22:53]<mvc>spyd: hey, our designer (heidi) says to send her an email with whatever info you have
[07:23:00]<mvc>heidi@koumbit.org
[07:23:22]<mvc>she'll work on a quote with ergonlogic and get back to you
[07:23:29]<spyd>mvc: ok, can do- is that the same person ergonlogic is talking about, or someone else? ;p
[07:23:34]<mvc>same person :)
[07:23:34]<spyd>heh- ok i get it
[07:23:37]<spyd>sounds good
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[07:29:00]<neonblue>anyone available for a quick question?
[07:29:33]<mvc>neonblue: don't ask to ask, just ask :) if someone can help they will
[07:29:59]<neonblue>lol. ok I just got done installing a new aegir on fedora. the install went pretty good with a few minor issues that I worked out
[07:30:20]<neonblue>however, now when I go to the default page that the hostmaster-install provided I get a 403 access denied
[07:31:11]<darthsteven>lame beans
[07:31:14]<darthsteven>try this:
[07:31:24]<darthsteven>change to the aegir user:
[07:31:24]<neonblue>oh, and the hostmaster-install succeeded no errors
[07:31:32]<darthsteven>su -s /bin/bash aegir
[07:31:34]<darthsteven>then run:
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[07:31:44]<darthsteven>drush @hostmaster uli
[07:31:54]<darthsteven>and it will give you another login link to use
[07:32:00]<darthsteven>see if that one works
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[07:32:52]<flexgrip>Can anyone point me in the right direction to copy existing D7 sites to aegir? This is my first aegir install and most of my sites were just thrown into sites/default/...
[07:33:07]<hefring>Git => Issue #1018596 by Steven Jones: Fixed Aegir forms don't work in MSIE 8.0. => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/5a3f4e7c5ea19a33...
[07:33:32]<neonblue>ah sweet. I didn't know how to regen the default link; I was wiping and restarting for the other servers I set up.
[07:33:39]<neonblue>Unfortunately, that has the same issue though.
[07:33:45]<iler>flexgrip: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/21
[07:34:10]<neonblue>the new link also gives the 403
[07:34:38]<iler>neonblue: Anything in the apache/nginx logs?
[07:34:39]<darthsteven>neonblue: hmmm…odd
[07:34:54]<darthsteven>neonblue: do you get a nice Aegir 403 page?
[07:35:02]<darthsteven>neonblue: does it look like Aegir?
[07:35:03]<neonblue>no, the default apache one
[07:35:48]<darthsteven>neonblue: interesting...
[07:36:37]<darthsteven>neonblue: maybe you missed an install step?
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[07:36:58]<neonblue>flexgrip: I stumbled onto this earlier http://groups.drupal.org/node/24992
[07:36:58]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/24992 => Importing Existing Websites into Aegir => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[07:37:44]<neonblue>I thought that too, darth. I went back to the base image (vm) and did the install again just to be sure I didn't skip anything... sme results
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[07:37:57]<darthsteven>neonblue: try running: apache2ctl -S
[07:38:02]<flexgrip>Thanks iler and neon. I guess my concern is, I have a lot of sites that are all just in the default directory. And I am wondering if there is a cleaner way, other than making a profile for each one of them.
[07:38:12]<darthsteven>and see if the vhost is there
[07:38:35]<neonblue>(apachectl is on fedora/centos) I'll post the results in a moment but I believe it does exist
[07:39:00]<darthsteven>aegir-jenkins: Win!
[07:39:11]<darthsteven>helpful...
[07:40:18]<flexgrip>Gosh... I said profile when I meant platform.
[07:41:23]<neonblue>VirtualHost configuration:
[07:41:23]<neonblue>wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers:
[07:41:23]<neonblue>*:80 is a NameVirtualHost
[07:41:23]<neonblue> default server default (/etc/httpd/conf.d/aegir.conf:5)
[07:41:23]<neonblue> port 80 namevhost default (/etc/httpd/conf.d/aegir.conf:5)
[07:41:23]<neonblue> port 80 namevhost aegir.edina.k12.mn.us (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/aegir.edina.k12.mn.us:1)
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[07:43:29]<neonblue>I did stumble on an article that was somewhat resolved but the person didn't post what they did other than there was a "permission" issue with the directory structure. From what I can tell; it looks a-ok with the permissions that were set by hostmaster-install
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[07:45:14]<iler>flexgrip: Well you could try this way http://community.aegirproject.org/node/115
[07:47:21]<flexgrip>Yeah. I have about 20 D7 sites that are all running almost identical codebase. The only differences are the themes, and the modules. So if I get drush to update them all to the latest D7, you think I could merge their modules directory and just import the /sites directories?
[07:48:44]<iler>Well there is the problem that Aegir doesn't 'understand' sites/default structure. So if you have sites in the default folder you need to do some adjustment
[07:50:32]<flexgrip>Yeah I'm thinking I can rename default to domain.tld, run the database queries to get everything back to normal. Then drush the codebases up to the latest version, and merge all their modules directories into one.
[07:50:48]<neonblue>in the http error log I have this when I try accessing the page: [Thu Feb 09 14:49:38 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to /user/reset/1/1........
[07:50:57]<flexgrip>Well... but I would think some of the modules are different versions. So I would have to drush them all up to date as well.
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[07:52:53]<flexgrip>Ok. Well I think I can figure that out.
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[07:53:49]<flexgrip>My next goal is to find out of there is a way to get my dev aegir server to push sites to my production aegir server via a script or git repo.
[07:54:33]<neonblue>I would think you could move the dbs over and the folders over
[07:58:35]<neonblue>darthsteven: any ideas?
[07:59:30]<darthsteven>neonblue: maybe a file permissions issue I guess
[07:59:31]<flexgrip>There has got to be a script or bash way to do it.
[07:59:46]<darthsteven>is the aegir user part of the webserver's group?
[08:00:30]<neonblue>apache:x:48:aegir
[08:02:10]<neonblue>drwxr-xr--. 9 aegir aegir 4096 Feb 9 15:00 hostmaster-6.x-1.6
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[08:03:33]<neonblue>all the files in the folder are 754 for permissions
[08:03:40]<neonblue>are they supposed to be anything different?
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[08:06:15]<neonblue>if I wanted to do a full reinstall of aegir is is just a matter of deleting the /var/aegir and dropping the database then repeating the download/install?
[08:06:51]<neonblue>It's possible that part of the issue was the order the manual install had me do things
[08:07:08]<neonblue>I had to jump down a few steps then come back both times.
[08:10:15]<simesy_work>hi omega8cc loving the speed of your hosting
[08:11:27]<omega8cc>simesy_work: hi, nice to hear that it works for you, thanks!
[08:16:19]<neonblue>holy cow that worked.
[08:16:37]<neonblue>there's definitely an issue with the manual instructions and fedora.
[08:16:47]<neonblue>well, the order is not quite right.
[08:17:57]<neonblue>anyway, thanks a bunch for your help. love the project; keep up the super work.
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[08:28:22]<theMusician>iler: /var/aegir/.drush/provision/http/apache
[08:29:59]<cdracars>anyone know the best way to use aegis with vagrant for local dev work on a site?
[08:30:45]<cdracars>puppet
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[08:44:16]<joestewart>cdracars: http://drupal.org/project/aegir-up but there was talk earlier about an vagrant upgrade breaking it? http://drupal.org/node/1419976
[08:44:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1419976 => Compatibility issue with vagrant >0.9.0 ? => Aegir-up, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[08:44:49]<cdracars>joestewart: thanks
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[10:02:04]<kepford>cdracars: Aegir up works great. I think that issue is an easy fix. Just a matter of a syntax change
[10:02:35]<kepford>I've been to busy with server migrations to get back to working on it
[10:02:58]<cdracars>kepford: I looked at it and not quite what i was needing… so now looking into making my vagrant box a server I can copy my site to for dev work
[10:03:48]<kepford>Yeah, vagrant is really great.
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