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[11:07:48]<anarcat>yeah yeah
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[11:48:11]<simesy_work>hmm omega8cc hosting forces on javascript/css but doesn't say why or where in the docs...
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[11:51:53]<omega8cc>simesy_work: it is in the docs: http://omega8.cc/how-to-disable-all-caching-and-aggregation-115
[11:52:23]<simesy_work>oh tah! i got lost looking at http://omega8.cc/speed-booster-cache-boost-and-advagg-108
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[11:54:25]<omega8cc>;) yeah, that article is really too long, we need to split it into five or more easier to read
[11:59:43]<simesy_work>I'm having some weird caching across browsers... admin_menu toolbar disappearing for example. And if I log in on one browser in maintenance mode, another browser shows the normal page instead of the maintenance page.
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[12:00:27]<omega8cc>anarcat: why it fails? 2.x head just works for me and we also still use 5.2 for the backend while 5.3 for the frontend
[12:01:59]<omega8cc>simesy_work: #omega8cc
[12:02:21]<simesy_work>oh thanks
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[14:23:26]<anarcat>yo
[14:23:33]<anarcat>darthsteven / mig5 around?
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[15:49:56]<simesy_work>aegir-jenkins: are you a bot that says Yippie?
[15:51:31]<simesy_work>I am getting boost to work on omega8 and I'm wondering whether it's a general Aegir config thing... I confirmed I can't make the .htaccess file myself.
[15:54:13]<rovo>I'm running into a canoncial url issue in how I have my Aegir set up
[15:54:46]<anarcat>now wtf is that bot doing answering people
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[15:54:58]<rovo>ha
[15:55:04]<rovo>:)
[15:55:59]<rovo>so for my domain aliases set in the Site Profile in the aegir backend, i put the SiteName.com and www.SiteName.com
[15:56:19]<rovo>the qualified and unqualified... but i don't want the site accessible at both.
[15:56:33]<rovo>Is there someway to get Aegir to redirect to the main one?
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[15:58:03]<simesy_work>there should be a setting when you create the site rovo "redirect to main domain" or somesuch
[15:58:56]<rovo>simesy_work: yeah, but except when I create sites in Aegir, i always use a subdomain of my sites URL
[16:00:22]<rovo>so for instance... Client.MySiteURL.com
[16:01:26]<rovo>so then when the client is ready for the site to go live, I just add their Live domains to the Domain Aliases box... Sitename.com and www.Sitename.com
[16:02:42]<joestewart>simesy_work: seen this? http://drupal.org/project/provision_boost
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[16:06:15]<rovo>I think maybe i need to remove one of the domain aliases from Aegir control panel, then modify the A records
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[16:11:55]<simesy_work>joestewart: yah i was just looking at this. I wonder if I can just install it and verify the site...
[16:13:41]<simesy_work>giving it a go
[16:15:53]<anarcat>darthsteven / mig5 : i rewrote the aegir debian autobuilds in sh and made it a script in our script collection
[16:16:03]<simesy_work>joestewart: I just know it won't work since on omega8 I'm not the same user as aegir so it is going to ignore my .drush/provision_boost
[16:16:07]<anarcat>this was driving me nuts, bouncing around the makefile and so on
[16:16:09]<simesy_work>still what the heck
[16:17:45]<simesy_work>the barracuda install scripts reference provision_boost, so in theory it should work...
[16:17:56]<simesy_work>without me doing anything
[16:18:04]<simesy_work>might have to wait until their support hours open
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[18:39:53]<darthsteven>anarcat: good stuff
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[18:41:05]<anarcat>darthsteven: what do you think of merging the debian branch into mainline?
[18:41:53]<darthsteven>http://drupal.org/node/1435144 ?
[18:41:54]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1435144 => get rid of the debian branch, make a native package => Hostmaster (Aegir), Debian package, critical, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[18:41:54]<anarcat>darthsteven: https://drupal.org/node/1435144
[18:41:56]<anarcat>yes
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[18:50:21]<darthsteven>Will we still have extra version numbers for Debian packages
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[18:50:23]<darthsteven>just trying to get my head around how the Debian 'channels' will look
[18:50:23]<darthsteven>i.e. I'm guessing we'll still be able to test okay?
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[18:53:40]<anarcat>no extra version number, that's the idea
[18:53:48]<anarcat>although we *could* keep the version number
[18:54:12]<anarcat>but the idea is to avoid the need for a ridiculous debian6x2x and debian7x2x branch
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[18:54:50]<anarcat>the extra number for the debian package is useful to reroll new packaging fixes without rolling out a full new release
[18:54:53]<anarcat>so i guess we should keep that
[18:55:31]<anarcat>i need to go to sleep now
[18:55:38]<anarcat>but i'll try to figure this out later
[18:56:31]<anarcat>we'll need to figure out the 6.x-2.x vs 7.x-2.x thing too
[18:56:47]<anarcat>because *that* can't be two debian branches, since the debian packages shows only the 2.x
[18:56:59]<anarcat>and also - we can't upload the 2.x package to the main archive
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[18:57:42]<darthsteven>okay
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[18:57:55]<darthsteven>thinking caps on I suppose
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[18:59:52]<anarcat>i think we should just bite the bullet and ditch 6.x-2.x
[19:00:02]<anarcat>although omega8cc probably uses it
[19:00:17]<anarcat>i don't think we have the workforce to maintain 3 branches
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[20:45:01]<Bladedu>Hello, I've installed the hostmaster 1.6 and I notice that when an existing site node is edited and saved that the $node->created param is changed to the current timestamp
[20:45:13]<Bladedu>anybody with the same issue?
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[21:02:52]<darthsteven>Bladedu: oh, is it?
[21:02:57]<darthsteven>Bladedu: odd
[21:03:27]<Bladedu>darthsteven, yes, it's really weird. I've installed aegir like 3 days ago
[21:03:51]<Bladedu>so I'm running the latest version of both provision and hostmaster
[21:04:04]<Bladedu>and I can't figure out what's going wrong
[21:04:05]<darthsteven>Bladedu: could you raise an issue against http://drupal.org/project/hostmaster and we'll take a look
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[21:04:49]<Bladedu>sure.
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[01:04:31]<ergonlogic>kepford: hi, fyi, I just updated aegir-up to use the latest version of vagrant (0.9)
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[01:04:51]<ergonlogic>kepford: I was hoping you could post a feature/bug about the setup you'd like
[01:05:12]<ergonlogic>kepford: re. moving /platforms out of the vm, etc
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[02:40:53]<kepford>Awesome ergonlogic
[02:46:29]<joestewart>ergonlogic++
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[02:46:39]<joestewart>thanks for aegir-up and getting it updated too.
[02:46:52]<ergonlogic>joestewart: thanks for using it!
[02:47:19]<ergonlogic>I didn't know anyone else hadeven tried it until kepford mentioned it last week
[02:47:34]<joestewart>I noticed the project page says to clone github. I cloned the d.o. project that had the update. It worked great.
[02:47:46]<ergonlogic>ah, I'll fix that
[02:48:01]<kepford>Do you have it mirrored on github ergonlogic ?
[02:48:08]<ergonlogic>I only just merged in the subtrees branch into master too
[02:48:13]<joestewart>Readme has the github.com url too IIRC
[02:48:26]<ergonlogic>kepford: no, that's where I'd hosted it initially
[02:48:37]<kepford>Anyone know if the their is a Barracuda uninstall script?
[02:48:50]<kepford>Ping omega8cc:
[02:48:53]<ergonlogic>he he
[02:49:25]<ergonlogic>eventually I'll figure out how to properly mirror a d.o repo on github
[02:49:35]<ergonlogic>to make pull requests and such feasible
[02:49:50]<joestewart>ergonlogic: oh I did have another thing I was going to look into. I think the aegir repo needs to be changed to http://debian.aegirproject.org/ ?
[02:50:03]<ergonlogic>joestewart: k,
[02:50:12]<ergonlogic>joestewart: I'll check that too
[02:50:28]<ergonlogic>but that should have been changed already...
[02:50:53]<anarcat>ergonlogic: we should look with darthsteven as to how we could replace the jenkins scripts with vagrant
[02:50:56]<omega8cc>kepford: pong
[02:51:07]<ergonlogic>anarcat: sure
[02:51:38]<ergonlogic>anarcat: I know next to nothing about Jenkins, but I've been meaning to learn
[02:51:47]<anarcat>well
[02:52:06]<anarcat>basically jenkins runs a bunch of scripts and reports back
[02:52:14]<anarcat>right now we have those scripts here: https://drupal.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014
[02:52:31]<omega8cc>kepford: there is no uninstall option, so far
[02:52:40]<anarcat>example: http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014.git/blob/HEAD:/aegir_c...
[02:52:59]<anarcat>this runs stuff "in the cloud" through fabric and mig5's cloudy scripts
[02:53:19]<anarcat>but we could replace those python scripts with puppet and "the cloud" with vagrant
[02:53:26]<anarcat>that way everyone could run those tests
[02:53:32]<anarcat>not just jenkins and it's mighty magic thing
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[02:55:19]<anarcat>so there you go
[02:55:24]<anarcat>that's the basic idea
[02:55:29]<anarcat>i should probably open an issue about this
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[02:56:05]<kepford>omega8cc: Is their is a Barracuda uninstall script?
[02:56:27]<kepford>Or if the install fails what is the best way to start over
[02:56:56]<omega8cc>kepford: there is an issue about it
[02:57:39]<anarcat>hey omega8cc
[02:57:59]<anarcat>omega8cc: i was wondering what your thoughts were on the idea of ditching 6.x-2.x and just focusing on 7.x-2.x?
[02:58:04]<omega8cc>kepford: see http://drupal.org/node/1174974 and http://drupal.org/node/1237766#comment-4818392
[02:58:05]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1174974 => Is it possible to restart the install after a failure point? => Barracuda, Documentation, normal, closed (fixed), 6 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:58:06]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1237766 => STABLE BARRACUDA script runs without any errors or warnings yet aegir.domain.com displays chive instead of aegir => Barracuda, Miscellaneous, normal, closed (duplicate), 9 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:58:06]<anarcat>omega8cc: you're not on d7 are you?
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[02:59:13]<omega8cc>anarcat: why? we don't have any working 7.x yet, while 6.x-2.x works fine and is a good place to develop 6.x based head
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[02:59:40]<anarcat>omega8cc: i am trying to have only two mainline branches
[02:59:54]<omega8cc>anarcat: I don't consider d7 production ready :p
[03:00:00]<anarcat>omega8cc: more specifically, i am trying to clarify the question "what is 2.x"
[03:00:09]<anarcat>maybe we just need to agree that it's 6.x-2.x, but still..
[03:00:11]<anarcat>i agree
[03:00:22]<anarcat>although wait, you're saying drupal 7 itself is not production ready? :)
[03:00:24]<anarcat>or our port?
[03:01:35]<omega8cc>anarcat: 2.x is 1.x rewritten with Symfony, but only for Provision, while 7.x is just broken stuff without anything really working because D7 port is not finished, unless I missed something
[03:01:53]<omega8cc>anarcat: both :p
[03:01:57]<anarcat>that is also my understanding
[03:02:26]<kepford>thanks omega8cc
[03:03:12]<anarcat>ergonlogic: https://drupal.org/node/1436006
[03:03:23]<anarcat>darthsteven / mig5 : would need your feedback on this: https://drupal.org/node/1436006
[03:03:24]<omega8cc>kepford: np, I hope this how-to helps
[03:03:45]<kepford>Will let you know
[03:03:47]<anarcat>omega8cc: alright, so what i get from you is that 2.x is 6.x-2.x and that's where we should (for example) build debian packages from
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[03:03:55]<anarcat>omega8cc: i am looking at fixing up the debian support for nginx
[03:04:01]<anarcat>but for that i need a test debian branch
[03:04:06]<anarcat>which seems stupid
[03:04:15]<anarcat>so i am thinking of just merging the debian branch back into 1.x
[03:04:21]<anarcat>and 2.x
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[03:04:33]<anarcat>so that th debian/ directory is directly in the upstream source
[03:04:38]<anarcat>this would make everything much eaiser
[03:05:23]<omega8cc>anarcat: I think we have just one really working head, and it is 6.x-2.x, while 7.x stuff is not ready even for testing, because it is D7 partial port, so far
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[03:06:03]<anarcat>ok
[03:06:28]<omega8cc>anarcat: I agree - re: merge debian in 1.x and 2.x
[03:06:34]<anarcat>well would you look at that, it's actually what the documentation says :P
[03:06:38]* anarcat will RTFM next time ;)
[03:06:42]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/content/branch-and-tagging-conventions
[03:06:56]<anarcat>alright, i'll fix that shit next week
[03:07:01]<omega8cc>haha
[03:07:12]<omega8cc>anarcat: and you wrote that :)
[03:07:38]<anarcat>yes i did!!
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[03:10:58]<ergonlogic>anarcat: re. "manual" install via puppet, it was just a bunch of 'exec' alls
[03:11:06]<ergonlogic>s/alls/calls/g
[03:11:10]<anarcat>yes
[03:11:16]<ergonlogic>k
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[06:31:58]<Tilaperfect10>Does anyone know if there is a way
[06:32:07]<Tilaperfect10>to have the sites provision the db user from %
[06:32:15]<Tilaperfect10>instead of a specified hostname
[06:32:19]<Tilaperfect10>?
[06:32:58]<Tilaperfect10>we loadbalance our drupal so the hosts have to be % because drupal would never see the webservers
[06:33:18]<Tilaperfect10>so mysql would always have an error unless the user was allowed to connect to any host with % in mysql
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[06:45:19]<bgm>Tilaperfect10: anarcat was working on this recently, iirc
[06:45:33]<bgm>you might want to check recent commits
[06:47:56]<Tilaperfect10>recent commits?
[06:54:19]<anarcat>i don't know, actually
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[06:54:47]<anarcat>right now i use the pack cluster mode and aegir grants access to all the hosts in the cluster
[06:55:37]<anarcat>i remember an issue about %
[06:55:41]<anarcat>but it wasn't mine
[06:55:54]<bgm>but you don't need %, if you can grant for each host, no?
[06:56:56]<anarcat>that's right
[06:57:05]<anarcat>i'm so happy with that new cluster system
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[07:11:12]<ergonlogic>anarcat: Can I get your opinion on how I added a parameter for aegir's front-end url: http://drupalcode.org/project/aegir-up.git/commitdiff/f3779b434c28947d9d...
[07:12:06]<ergonlogic>anarcat: all the debconf parameters are for hostmaster, so I'm just passing them on to aegir::frontend
[07:12:34]<anarcat>+ Exec {
[07:12:34]<anarcat>+ path => [ "/bin/", "/sbin/" , "/usr/bin/", "/usr/sbin/" ],
[07:12:42]<anarcat>i wouldn't do that: this will change the path for everything
[07:12:51]<anarcat>put that in your site.pp
[07:12:58]<ergonlogic>anarcat: k
[07:13:30]<ergonlogic>I'm thinking it's kinda silly to specify all the parameters twice
[07:13:43]<ergonlogic>and just pass them through from aegir to aegir::frontend
[07:13:45]<anarcat>all the parameters?
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[07:14:06]<ergonlogic>well, right now there's just $site
[07:14:21]<anarcat>ah ok
[07:14:30]<anarcat>i am not familiar with parametrized classes
[07:14:39]<ergonlogic>but there'll soon be db, email, etcx.
[07:15:00]<drakythe>Anyone know why Aegir might eat a certain theme's Div?
[07:15:31]<ergonlogic>well, I was thinking that the aegir class could just be for a default install, and then you have to call aegir::frontend yourself, if you want to pass custom stuff
[07:15:42]<ergonlogic>anarcat: what do you think?
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[07:18:50]<ergonlogic>anarcat: btw, for now, I'm committing these to aegir-up, and I figure I'll be able to pull them back into puppet-aegir, via subtrees magic
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[07:23:42]<anarcat>ew
[07:23:50]<anarcat>sounds bad :P
[07:23:51]<anarcat>but okay
[07:24:02]<anarcat>thing is
[07:24:15]<anarcat>if you *don't* do parametrized classes, you don't have to worry about passing parameters downwards
[07:26:27]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ok, so how would you do it without a paramaterized class?
[07:29:31]<ergonlogic>right now the aegir class just includes aegir::frontend, anyway, which then itself includes the backend
[07:30:17]<ergonlogic>so, if you want to customize anything, you just switch to aegir::frontend
[07:30:25]<ergonlogic>at least that's what I'm proposing
[07:30:57]<ergonlogic>anyway, that's what I'll do for now, and we can change it later, if we decide otherwise
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[07:49:20]<anarcat>ergonlogic: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KCDdRmfg
[07:51:31]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so just a bunch of variables that can be set in node.pp(?)
[07:54:37]<ergonlogic>ok, well that makes sense, never done that before
[07:54:48]<Tilaperfect10>anacrat is there a way to fix the users to in mysql so they come from % and not a specified host for lvs uses?
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[07:55:54]<anarcat>ergonlogic: basically yes
[07:56:05]<anarcat>Tilaperfect10: i'm *not* a rat :P
[07:56:19]<Tilaperfect10>hahaha
[07:56:23]<anarcat>Tilaperfect10: and i'm not sure i understand the question
[07:56:24]<Tilaperfect10>i never said you were :P
[07:56:27]<Tilaperfect10>okay
[07:56:38]<anarcat>you said anac rat :P
[07:56:39]<Tilaperfect10>so I have drupal in a load balanced
[07:56:41]<Tilaperfect10>scenerio
[07:56:46]<Tilaperfect10>so when my sites are created
[07:56:48]<Tilaperfect10>mysql coughs
[07:57:03]<Tilaperfect10>because the sites users are coming from another server
[07:57:18]<Tilaperfect10>the webservers are transparent to drupal
[07:57:21]<Tilaperfect10>since its in a lvs
[07:57:26]<Tilaperfect10>so my users in mysql
[07:57:31]<anarcat>i am not familiar with lvs
[07:57:32]<Tilaperfect10>need to be allowed to connect to any host
[07:57:41]<Tilaperfect10>instead of specified host
[07:57:50]<anarcat>do you use the cluster feature?
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[07:57:57]<Tilaperfect10>so they need to be sites @ %
[07:58:11]<Tilaperfect10>instead of sites @ blahbalweb.serv.blah.com
[07:58:15]<Tilaperfect10>in mysql
[07:58:17]<anarcat>i undersatnd that
[07:58:19]<anarcat>well i told you earlier that there may be an issue about this
[07:58:30]<anarcat>i am not sure i can help you
[07:58:46]<Tilaperfect10>hehe okay when you say issue as in there is no way to fix it as of yet
[07:58:59]<Tilaperfect10>like i cant just go and update some file
[07:59:04]<Tilaperfect10>somewhere
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[07:59:31]<anarcat>and magic?
[07:59:32]<anarcat>no :P
[07:59:35]<Tilaperfect10>lol
[07:59:38]<anarcat>you'll have to (*gasp*) work :P
[07:59:45]<Tilaperfect10>darn
[07:59:47]<anarcat>like look in the issue queue
[07:59:49]<Tilaperfect10>what a drag
[07:59:51]<anarcat>and maybe even try out a module
[07:59:54]<anarcat>crazy uh
[08:00:01]<anarcat>you could also hire koumbit to do it for you
[08:00:08]<anarcat>in which case you don't have to do any work and it's magic!
[08:00:14]<Tilaperfect10>hahahaha
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[08:00:40]<Tilaperfect10>i could just setup a cron
[08:00:41]<anarcat>i'm actually serious about this though :)
[08:00:47]<Tilaperfect10>to set all the users in mysql
[08:00:54]<Tilaperfect10>to %
[08:01:07]<Tilaperfect10>after it runs the first cron
[08:01:12]<Tilaperfect10>to work around it
[08:01:15]<anarcat>that would also be work :p
[08:01:15]<Tilaperfect10>:P
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[08:01:28]<Tilaperfect10>if there is no in the code way to fix it
[08:01:58]<Tilaperfect10>thats the chick way to do it
[08:02:00]<Tilaperfect10>lol
[08:02:34]<anarcat>as i said
[08:02:40]<anarcat>the proper way of doing this is with the pack module
[08:03:07]<Tilaperfect10>im not heavy into coding
[08:03:14]<Tilaperfect10>so i prolly couldnt it myself
[08:03:21]<Tilaperfect10>i could muddle with code
[08:03:29]<Tilaperfect10>but no pro
[08:05:28]<ergonlogic>anarcat: k, that worked. Thanks, it's much nicer than all my redundant parameters.
[08:06:03]<anarcat>Tilaperfect10: this is just about enabling the site and creating servers
[08:06:25]<anarcat>Tilaperfect10: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/web-clusters is the current doc, quite lacking
[08:07:47]<Tilaperfect10>hahah yeah that doesnt help me much
[08:08:02]<Tilaperfect10>i appreciate the help though
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[08:08:15]<Tilaperfect10>im just going to update the drush.php
[08:08:23]<Tilaperfect10>so that it has a clause
[08:08:35]<Tilaperfect10>to run a perl script
[08:08:41]<Tilaperfect10>that if a sites created
[08:08:50]<Tilaperfect10>to make sites* to %
[08:08:59]<Tilaperfect10>problem solved
[08:09:02]<anarcat>hehe ok
[08:09:12]<anarcat>feel free to contribute your hack back into the community site! :)
[08:09:19]<anarcat>our community is all about sharing
[08:09:20]<Tilaperfect10>sure
[08:09:28]<Tilaperfect10>its a cheap hack
[08:09:29]<Tilaperfect10>but it will work
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[08:20:25]<mvc>the community is also all about cheap hacks (when needed) :)
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[09:56:22]<cdracars>is there a way to setup the rsync process to use a non standard ssh port?
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[10:20:03]<Tilaperfect10>so if anyone wants to know how to fix the user host issue
[10:20:08]<Tilaperfect10>for lvs scenerio
[10:20:12]<Tilaperfect10>its super easy
[10:20:15]<Tilaperfect10>update db.drush.inc
[10:20:40]<Tilaperfect10>where it says
[10:20:41]<Tilaperfect10>Return a list of hosts, as seen by the db server, which should be granted
[10:20:41]<Tilaperfect10> * access to the site database.
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[10:21:03]<Tilaperfect10>change the return array to %
[10:21:11]<Tilaperfect10>restart apache
[10:21:29]<Tilaperfect10>and now all sites users will be provisioned from any host in mysql
[10:21:45]<Tilaperfect10>*takes a bow* hahah
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