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| [11:03:51] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: mig5 ping |
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| [11:15:25] | <anarcat> | darthsteven / mig5 : i will need your feedback on this: http://drupal.org/node/1439120#comment-5698036 |
| [11:15:26] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1439120 => Release 1.7 => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 19 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [11:17:11] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: ping |
| [11:19:24] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: pong |
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| [11:20:01] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: hi.. I found a potential issue yesterday now that boot is enforced on sites with Barracuda |
| [11:20:37] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: I had a view that I updated and the changes didn't refledt for anonymous users for at least an hour after I made the change |
| [11:20:44] | <realityloop> | reflect |
| [11:21:12] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: it was a Drupal 7 site |
| [11:24:00] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: I think it is expected and covered in detail in the changelog, for example: http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/CHANGELOG.txt#l132 |
| [11:25:17] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thanks.. I'll have a read |
| [11:25:27] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: by default it purges the cache when any node is added/edited and the homepage when the edited node is promoted |
| [11:25:51] | <omega8cc> | you may want to watch how/if that works properly with: |
| [11:26:04] | <omega8cc> | tail -f /var/log/nginx/speed_purge.log |
| [11:26:17] | <realityloop> | cheers |
| [11:26:24] | <omega8cc> | k |
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| [11:57:09] | <redndahead> | Is there a way to verify a platform from the shell? |
| [11:57:09] | <hefring> | redndahead: 2 weeks 6 days ago <omega8cc> tell redndahead: np, thanks :) |
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| [12:00:13] | <omega8cc> | redndahead: yes, as aegir system user run: drush @platform_drupal622 provision-verify - see also http://mig5.net/content/manage-your-aegir-system-command-line |
| [12:00:40] | <redndahead> | omega8cc: thanks |
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| [15:19:33] | <halcyonCorsair> | anarcat: ping |
| [15:19:59] | <anarcat> | halcyonCorsair: pong |
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| [15:21:01] | <halcyonCorsair> | anarcat: what are your thoughts on file ownership and aegir user vs. web user, and reasons they should or shouldn't be the same? |
| [15:21:21] | <anarcat> | that is a very general question |
| [15:21:28] | <anarcat> | i think things are okay as they are, in general |
| [15:22:47] | <halcyonCorsair> | anarcat: i'm currently using the web clusters module, and have a couple of hacks in place, re: symlinking the files directory to shared nfs |
| [15:22:54] | <halcyonCorsair> | but there are a few problems |
| [15:23:08] | <anarcat> | did you try the pack module? |
| [15:26:29] | <halcyonCorsair> | anarcat: not yet |
| [15:28:42] | <halcyonCorsair> | anarcat: i'm not sure i'm happy with the thought of all the sites going bye bye if the nfs goes down |
| [15:29:06] | <halcyonCorsair> | do 'master' servers get around that in a better way than the web cluster module? |
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| [15:30:19] | <anarcat> | then you need to fix nfs |
| [15:30:27] | <anarcat> | what do you mean by master servers? |
| [15:30:59] | <halcyonCorsair> | anarcat: your 'master' vs 'slave' functionality in the pack module perhaps? (i may be getting confused) |
| [15:31:23] | <anarcat> | oh |
| [15:31:29] | <anarcat> | master serversin pack are the same as regular cluster nodes |
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| [16:15:34] | <realityloop> | mig5: ping, Jenkins question |
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| [20:27:14] | <ZeiP> | Hi. I need to create an additional config file for every site created through Aegir. How should I go about it? I previously got an advice about doing something with pre_provision_tasks, and if you think that's a good way to go then I have some additional questions |
| [20:29:54] | <algar> | ZeiP: Which kind of config file? |
| [20:30:04] | <algar> | for Apache? |
| [20:31:09] | <ZeiP> | algar, PHP-FPM pool file |
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| [20:35:21] | <algar> | ZeiP, you can jusyt write it in post_provision_install |
| [20:36:17] | <algar> | or pre_prevision... |
| [20:37:50] | <algar> | for example, in install.provision.inc: drush_provision_drupal_post_provision_install() |
| [20:38:41] | <algar> | the form is drush_HOOK_post_provision_install, and HOOK needs to be the prefix of a .drush.inc file |
| [20:39:45] | <algar> | you can put these files in any drush folder outside the drupal installation (e.g. /var/aegir/.drush, /usr/share/drush/commands, wherever drush can read 'em) |
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| [21:03:16] | <ZeiP> | algar, thanks! |
| [21:03:23] | <ZeiP> | I'll try that |
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| [22:04:06] | <a_c_m1> | mig5: ping |
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| [22:43:55] | <ZeiP> | algar, is there some documentation on Provision? |
| [22:44:17] | <ZeiP> | It's quite difficult to get a grip of the way it works, I still haven't got anything useful :) |
| [22:46:00] | <algar> | ZeiP, not much |
| [22:47:12] | <algar> | you'll have to follow the code mostly |
| [22:47:26] | <algar> | mig5's article is good http://community.aegirproject.org/node/75 |
| [22:48:07] | <ZeiP> | Yeah. I tried copying http files and remove useless parts from them, but I still don't really understand all of it so it's kinda difficult :( |
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| [22:50:42] | <algar> | it can surely be done, first step is to get into one of the provision hooks, |
| [22:51:01] | <algar> | what do you mean with http files? |
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| [23:53:15] | <ZeiP> | algar, sorry, I'm lagging a bit :) With http files I mean the http(d) functionality of Provision – I tried to take some relevant files from there and modify them to fit into my need, but that didn't really work so far. |
| [23:54:08] | <algar> | ZeiP, that's quite complicated |
| [23:54:35] | <algar> | Provision has a concept of services which can adhere to a context |
| [23:54:43] | <algar> | and then write 'config' |
| [23:55:31] | <algar> | i would opt to skip that if you don't need lots of information from your context |
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| [23:55:51] | <algar> | and just plainly write the files after install |
| [23:59:29] | <ZeiP> | Hmh |
| [23:59:46] | <ZeiP> | The only thing I really need for the config file is some kind of identifier for the site |
| [00:00:09] | <ZeiP> | Something that should also be fit to be a unix username |
| [00:12:52] | <algar> | ZeiP, maybe you can use the URI? |
| [00:13:08] | <algar> | or parse it to get just the subdomain |
| [00:13:34] | <algar> | you should be able to access it in the provision_install hooks through d()->uri |
| [00:13:44] | <algar> | i guess |
| [00:14:35] | <ZeiP> | Ok |
| [00:14:57] | <ZeiP> | And yeah, I'm sure domain is quite enough |
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| [01:58:04] | <ergonlogic> | algar / ZeiP : re. documentation, api.aegirproject.org may help |
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| [02:05:32] | <ZeiP> | ergonlogic, thanks |
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| [02:21:39] | <anarcat> | mig5 / darthsteven : ping |
| [02:22:48] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: pong! |
| [02:23:01] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: hi! |
| [02:23:11] | <anarcat> | did you see the crazy stupid stuff i did for the release? |
| [02:23:12] | <darthsteven> | hello! |
| [02:23:20] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1439120#comment-5698036 |
| [02:23:20] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1439120 => Release 1.7 => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 19 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
| [02:23:21] | <darthsteven> | I saw some of it |
| [02:23:39] | <anarcat> | i am trying to figure out how we want to run this |
| [02:24:32] | <darthsteven> | In what sense? |
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| [02:28:30] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: do we want to get rid of release.sh or not i guess is the question |
| [02:28:41] | <anarcat> | i'd like to not depend on jenkins for releases |
| [02:28:49] | <anarcat> | so i would favor building more intelligence into release.sh |
| [02:28:58] | <darthsteven> | okay |
| [02:29:01] | <anarcat> | but then maybe we should do the exact opposite and just let jenkins deal with it |
| [02:29:11] | <darthsteven> | I just posted a comment |
| [02:29:18] | <anarcat> | The more I look at this, the more I feel that the jenkins scripts and the release.sh are duplicates and we need to decide between the two: do we want our core team to interact with the Debian archive and sign packages, or do we want jenkins to do all that for us? |
| [02:29:33] | <anarcat> | i understand |
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| [02:29:40] | <anarcat> | would proper documentation fix that for you? |
| [02:29:41] | <darthsteven> | and for me the issue is that I don't use any of the tools for building packages except for when releasing Aegir |
| [02:30:13] | <darthsteven> | I'd need to build myself a little VM to have all the tools and keys on I think |
| [02:30:21] | <darthsteven> | I'm not always on the same machine |
| [02:30:27] | <anarcat> | oh right, cause you don't run debian or ubuntu? |
| [02:30:41] | <darthsteven> | well, I do, but not on all my machines |
| [02:30:46] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [02:30:57] | <anarcat> | well, the thing with keys is that they're not supposed to be all over the place anyways :) |
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| [02:31:05] | <darthsteven> | If there was an environment on the Jenkins server that allowed me to use my keys, that would work |
| [02:31:11] | <darthsteven> | yeah... |
| [02:31:48] | <darthsteven> | I guess mig5 might have the casting vote on Jenkins or not here... |
| [02:32:01] | <darthsteven> | I'm happy to go with the majority |
| [02:32:15] | <darthsteven> | So long as things are documented then it's fine |
| [02:33:26] | <darthsteven> | I just think that having Jenkins do it is better because we can all use a central place to build the packages, we get the logs stored and viewable by all |
| [02:33:39] | <darthsteven> | and it means that you can release aegir from a web browser almost |
| [02:33:41] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [02:33:51] | <anarcat> | well, that's a concern for me :P |
| [02:33:58] | <darthsteven> | hehe |
| [02:34:05] | <anarcat> | and i really don't like the notion of jenkins pushing stuff to drupal.org |
| [02:34:21] | <anarcat> | so i am strongly attached to the idea that tags should be pushed by real people at the very least |
| [02:34:33] | <anarcat> | i'm open to the idea that jenkins deals with the .deb stuff though |
| [02:34:42] | <anarcat> | trick is: release.sh lays the tag and reverts... |
| [02:34:47] | <darthsteven> | that would appease me :) |
| [02:34:50] | <anarcat> | so then it's hard to build the package |
| [02:34:58] | <darthsteven> | ah |
| [02:34:58] | <anarcat> | "hard" as in "backwards and annoying" |
| [02:35:15] | <darthsteven> | can we do something different for releases? |
| [02:35:24] | <anarcat> | i think i could do that |
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| [02:37:46] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: what if jenkins would build unsigned packages and then you would use one magic command to sign the package to approve it for release? |
| [02:38:18] | <darthsteven> | that would be okay |
| [02:38:28] | <anarcat> | okay |
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| [02:39:17] | <darthsteven> | sorry for being difficult :) |
| [02:39:41] | <darthsteven> | but I'm possibly on the same level as future Aegir maintainers in terms of debian packaging |
| [02:40:42] | <anarcat> | yep |
| [02:40:47] | <anarcat> | i just feel it's not that hard :P |
| [02:40:55] | <anarcat> | it's just a bunch of commands and little configuration |
| [02:41:01] | <anarcat> | but i understand |
| [02:42:29] | <anarcat> | so here's the bug |
| [02:42:38] | <anarcat> | say i have a git clone of aegir 1.x |
| [02:43:02] | <anarcat> | we laid down the 1.7 tags and modified the things like the .info, then reverted that |
| [02:43:07] | <anarcat> | so HEAD is not that tag anymore |
| [02:43:18] | <anarcat> | now i will need to checkout that tag again and |
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| [02:43:23] | <anarcat> | oh nevermind, figured it out |
| [02:46:38] | <darthsteven> | I am a git ninja however, let me know if you need to know other commands :) |
| [02:48:19] | <anarcat> | git reset --hard 6.x-1.7 is what i was looking for |
| [02:48:26] | <anarcat> | because git co puts me in detached head |
| [02:48:31] | <anarcat> | and git-buildpackage does not like that so much |
| [02:49:41] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: jenkins question though |
| [02:49:50] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: build parameters, how do they get pushed down to the script? |
| [02:49:51] | <anarcat> | env? |
| [02:50:02] | <darthsteven> | yup |
| [02:50:34] | <anarcat> | okay |
| [02:50:40] | <anarcat> | and any reason why i can't add a freaking parameter now? :) |
| [02:50:44] | <anarcat> | Exception: No valid crumb was included in the request |
| [02:50:47] | <anarcat> | oh boy |
| [02:50:50] | <anarcat> | that would be why i guess |
| [02:50:50] | <darthsteven> | hmmm |
| [02:51:04] | <anarcat> | i got logged out |
| [02:51:13] | <darthsteven> | that would be why |
| [02:52:17] | <anarcat> | so say i have a parameter named "Tag", the env variable is "$Tag"? |
| [02:52:40] | <anarcat> | i'm going to use JENKINS_AEGIR_TAG |
| [02:52:43] | <anarcat> | then ~/scripts/jenkins-debian-build -k jenkins@ci.aegirproject.org -u -t $JENKINS_AEGIR_TAG |
| [02:55:58] | <anarcat> | dpkg-deb: building package `aegir' in `../aegir_1.7_all.deb'. |
| [02:55:59] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [02:56:11] | <anarcat> | well, that's about it really |
| [03:01:22] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: another annoying jenkins question |
| [03:01:52] | <anarcat> | we do the following in the debinstall.py script: fabric.run("echo 'aegir-hostmaster aegir/makefile string http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob_plain/6.x-2.x:/aegir.make' | debconf-set-selections", pty=True) |
| [03:02:07] | <anarcat> | do we really need that? can't we just skip that step and assume provision is smart enough? |
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| [03:05:00] | <anarcat> | rackspace really doesn't like my jobs |
| [03:06:05] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: possibly, I think it was there for a reason though, maybe not |
| [03:07:07] | <anarcat> | so seems like i'm eating away mig5's boxes again :( |
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| [03:21:25] | <anarcat> | SystemError: Exception('500 Internal Server Error Could not send Message.; javax.xml.ws.soap.SOAPFaultException: Could not send Message.',) |
| [03:21:28] | <anarcat> | bloody hell |
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| [03:25:45] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: shouldn't we just have one S_aegir_6.x-1.x_install task? |
| [03:25:58] | <anarcat> | now we basically duplicate that task over and over again, but we have an argument to choose the release anyways |
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| [03:30:39] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: btw, i have migrated a bunch of jobs away from using their own checkout of the scripts to the common copy, which i manually pull from time to time |
| [03:30:59] | <darthsteven> | ah cool |
| [03:31:15] | <darthsteven> | Jenkins job to do the pull? |
| [03:31:17] | <darthsteven> | :) |
| [03:31:34] | <darthsteven> | we need to get the Jenkins config itself into git at some point |
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| [03:34:05] | <anarcat> | File "/var/lib/jenkins/scripts/aegir_dpkg_install.py", line 129, in main |
| [03:34:06] | <anarcat> | fabric.env.host_string = domain |
| [03:34:06] | <anarcat> | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'env' |
| [03:34:08] | <anarcat> | wtf is going on here |
| [03:34:24] | <anarcat> | i didn't touch that |
| [03:35:24] | <anarcat> | this really doesn't want to succeed |
| [03:35:53] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i have created a http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/S_aegir_6.x-1.x_install/ job to replace all the S_aegir_6.x-1.[123456]_install jobs |
| [03:35:56] | <anarcat> | also updated the release process |
| [03:37:09] | <darthsteven> | ok |
| [03:37:31] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: so yeah, another thing i did was to create a script that would install the debian packages through dpkg instead of apt-get, so that we can avoid depending on the archive to test packages |
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| [03:37:50] | <anarcat> | the git-based 1.7 install seems to pass |
| [03:37:50] | <darthsteven> | awesome |
| [03:37:52] | <anarcat> | ah there |
| [03:39:45] | <anarcat> | aaah! |
| [03:39:59] | <anarcat> | Fatal error: put() encountered an exception while uploading 'linked-artifacts/aegir-cluster-slave_1.7_all.deb' |
| [03:40:02] | <anarcat> | Underlying exception message: |
| [03:40:05] | <anarcat> | No such file |
| [03:40:07] | <anarcat> | Aborting. |
| [03:40:12] | <anarcat> | this takes a good 5 minutes to fail to copy this one file |
| [03:40:14] | <anarcat> | so frustrating |
| [03:41:28] | <anarcat> | here we go again |
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| [03:46:32] | <anarcat> | la la la |
| [03:46:42] | <anarcat> | Fatal error: put() encountered an exception while uploading '/var/lib/jenkins/jobs/S_aegir_official_deb_install/workspace/linked-artifacts/aegir-cluster-slave_1.7_all.deb' |
| [03:46:46] | <anarcat> | i don't get fabric |
| [03:46:48] | <anarcat> | Underlying exception message: |
| [03:46:51] | <anarcat> | No such file |
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| [04:02:16] | <cdracars> | anyone know how to make the can module work with a aegis hosted system? |
| [04:02:24] | <cdracars> | cdn* |
| [04:03:42] | <anarcat> | blast |
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| [04:12:22] | <joestewart> | cdracars: mrfelton just posted this for barracuda. Maybe you can get it working for regular aegir? http://drupal.org/project/provision_cdn |
| [04:12:55] | <cdracars> | joestewart: thanks i'll have to look into that |
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| [04:34:42] | <cmcintosh> | question how exactly on a low level does migration work when your migrating from one database server to another? |
| [04:34:55] | <cmcintosh> | does it copy the database down to aegir then back out to remote |
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| [05:08:29] | <kepford> | Been trying out Duplicity with Rackspace Cloud Files based on mig5 blog post and I'm liking it. I want to backup the how server but also just the /var/aegir/backups. I have a script that does daily backups of all Aegir sites and a script that does cleanup of old backups on that directory every night. Does this sound like a good backup setup for Aegir. |
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| [05:44:05] | <anarcat> | alright, so next step: 1.7 debian package upgrade tests |
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| [05:45:07] | <apassi> | hi, current aegir version seems to be 1.6. ubuntu 10.04 has deb which seems to install aegir 1.2, is there a big differences with these versions? |
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| [05:45:40] | <anarcat> | lots of bugfixes, some new features |
| [05:46:03] | <anarcat> | see http://community.aegirproject.org/release-notes for details |
| [05:46:08] | <apassi> | ok.. so i am currently study this aegir, should i just forgot deb, and do manual installation with latest? |
| [05:46:32] | <anarcat> | ubuntu 10.4 shouldn't have an aegir .deb at all |
| [05:46:44] | <anarcat> | you should use the deb, i think, with 1.6 |
| [05:46:48] | <anarcat> | we're building a new release right now |
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| [05:47:06] | <apassi> | there is this: aegir-provision - backend of the Aegir hosting system |
| [05:47:16] | <apassi> | but it is 1.2 |
| [05:50:37] | <anarcat> | that's really odd |
| [05:50:52] | <anarcat> | can you show me the output of apt-cache policy aegir-provision? |
| [05:51:04] | <apassi> | just a second |
| [05:51:53] | <anarcat> | awesome |
| [05:52:45] | <apassi> | http://pastebin.com/ZHdhA7XT |
| [05:53:07] | <anarcat> | that says 0.3 |
| [05:53:13] | <anarcat> | you don't want to run 0.3 |
| [05:53:20] | <anarcat> | that package was removed from debian ages ago |
| [05:53:28] | <apassi> | i think the deb version is 0.3 but aegir is 1.2 |
| [05:53:45] | <anarcat> | aegir is at release 1.6 now |
| [05:53:50] | <apassi> | i nkkow |
| [05:53:51] | <apassi> | know |
| [05:53:59] | <anarcat> | and the official debian packages we provide, which are not in ubuntu *or* debian, are at 1.6 too |
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| [05:55:01] | <apassi> | ok, well anyway that aegir package is in ubuntu 10.04.3 universe, but i am not going to use it. thanks. |
| [05:55:50] | <anarcat> | right |
| [05:57:15] | <anarcat> | darthsteven / mig5 : status update on the release: almost done, i want to see what my tests servers give out for the 1.7 upgrade before pulling the package in stable and publishing the release notes, see http://drupal.org/node/1439120#comment-5701622 |
| [05:57:16] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1439120 => Release 1.7 => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 23 comments, 4 IRC mentions |
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| [05:58:13] | <anarcat> | mig5: also, there's a stuck rackspace box again, been stuck for an hour, it should die: http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/S_aegir_official_deb_install/12/console |
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| [09:59:42] | <a_c_m1> | ping mig |
| [09:59:45] | <a_c_m1> | mig5: ^^ |
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