IRC logs for #aegir, 2012-03-21 (GMT)

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[15:41:43]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: ping
[15:42:50]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: hey
[15:43:22]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: hey.. did you find any time to work on the aegir script yet?
[15:43:24]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: started work on the fabric stuff, but haven't had a chance to make much progress yet
[15:43:30]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: ah
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[15:49:09]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: I added another issue the oter day too.. php isn't part of homebrew-alt anymore
[15:55:06]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: i think i saw you logged an issue about that?
[15:55:38]<realityloop>yep, with link to new repo with php keg
[15:56:25]<halcyonCorsair>sweet
[15:56:35]<halcyonCorsair>i think i saw mxcl talking about kegs a while back
[15:56:50]<halcyonCorsair>but haven't used in anger yet :)
[15:57:37]<realityloop>heheh
[15:57:57]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: there's a lot of interest in the script here
[15:58:12]<realityloop>I've been telling people that there will be a script soon..
[15:58:14]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: ah cool
[15:58:26]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: i'll spend some time on it today
[15:59:01]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: may or may not get some internet disruption, away for work, and wacky mobile internet shenanigans
[15:59:13]<realityloop>no probs
[15:59:26]<halcyonCorsair>how is DC going?
[15:59:30]<halcyonCorsair>sounds pretty exciting
[15:59:33]<halcyonCorsair>really wish i was there
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[16:01:45]<boztek>yeah php moved to a "contrib" tap thingy … https://github.com/josegonzalez/homebrew-php/commits/master/Formula/php.rb
[16:02:27]<boztek>so you can do something like "brew tap add josegonzalez/php"
[16:03:12]<boztek>actually just "brew tap josegonzalez/php"
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[16:22:36]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: yeah it's been pretty good so far.. only first night.. we're in the coders lounge
[16:27:41]<halcyonCorsair>started watching dries' keynote, but haven't had a chance to finish yet
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[16:53:10]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: we didn't get to the conference until a bit later
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[17:02:00]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: similarly/separately of interest https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/fabric-deploy
[17:04:42]<realityloop>halcyonCorsair: I can't figure out what that does?
[17:06:36]<halcyonCorsair>realityloop: you give it a 'recipe' (think aegir/drush sitealias, but in python), and tell it to deploy a site to an environment, and it will go and perform the relevant deployment tasks on a number of servers
[17:07:27]<realityloop>oh cool
[17:08:28]<halcyonCorsair>could theoretically be modified and plugged into aegir/dashboard as mused about http://activelamp.com/blog/musings-using-aegir-deployment
[17:09:19]<halcyonCorsair>suits our current infrastructure better than aegir in many places/easier to extend
[17:11:08]<realityloop>ooh nice
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[20:42:34]<lolmaus>When doing "drush hostmaster-install", it asks for sudo password, while aegir user does not have one.
[20:42:40]<lolmaus>How do i overcome this?
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[21:02:52]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: on upgrade, or?
[21:03:12]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: aegir user should have passwordless sudo for restarting the webserver
[21:04:21]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, clean manual install. See this issue: http://drupal.org/node/1297372
[21:04:22]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1297372 => Installing with nginx requires some unknown sudo command => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (cannot reproduce), 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[21:05:18]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: try it with --debug to see if you can get an idea of what command it's trying to run
[21:05:34]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, here:
[21:05:37]<lolmaus>Running: /usr/bin/php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php --php='/usr/bin/php' @server_master provision-verify --backend 2>&1 [17.46 sec, 9.83 MB] [command]
[21:05:37]<lolmaus>[sudo] password for aegir:
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[21:06:47]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: nginx, or apache?
[21:06:56]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, nginx
[21:07:15]<lolmaus>Command: aegir@zulu1597:~$ drush hostmaster-install --http_service_type=nginx --client_email=lolmaus@gmail.com -d
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[21:10:06]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, i've modified visudo and here it is:
[21:10:08]<lolmaus>nginx on zulu1597.server4you.net could not be restarted. Changes might not be available until this has been done. (error: sudo: [warning]
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[21:11:44]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: you must have some issue with your sudoers i guess. i have: aegir ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/nginx
[21:12:09]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, it tries to run /etc/sbin/apachectl!!!
[21:12:59]<halcyonCorsair>hmm, not sure then
[21:13:17]<halcyonCorsair>i haven't upgraded to 1.7, so i can't be sure it's not a new bug
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[21:42:32]<lolmaus>anarcat mig5, you here? ^_^
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[21:45:51]<lolmaus>Hey omega8cc
[21:46:26]<lolmaus>omega8cc, i've got an issue with hostmaster-install: it's trying to run apachectl, though i'm running it with --http_service_type=nginx
[21:47:03]<omega8cc>lolmaus: http://drupal.org/node/1297372#comment-5759560
[21:47:04]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1297372 => Installing with nginx requires some unknown sudo command => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (cannot reproduce), 4 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[21:48:00]<lolmaus>omega8cc, yeah, i've got the "aegir ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/nginx", but hostmaster-install runs apachectl! D:
[21:49:02]<omega8cc>lolmaus: ok, then post all details, as requested
[21:49:11]<omega8cc>and re-open the issue
[21:51:03]<omega8cc>lolmaus: I hope you are familiar also with http://community.aegirproject.org/content/installing/manual/nginx-mariad...
[21:52:34]<lolmaus>omega8cc, yes, i've got that done
[21:53:17]<lolmaus>Except that i had installed MySQL instead of MariaDB. And i had installed Nginx from Ubuntu repositories, not from an external repository.
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[21:56:28]<lolmaus>omega8cc http://drupal.org/node/1297372#comment-5759608
[21:56:29]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1297372 => Installing with nginx requires some unknown sudo command => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (cannot reproduce), 4 comments, 3 IRC mentions
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[22:01:59]<lolmaus>omega8cc, any ideas?
[22:05:16]<omega8cc>lolmaus: let's follow the issue and don't duplicate it here in the room
[22:05:41]<lolmaus>omega8cc, ok sorry
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[01:28:23]<ergonlogic>joestewart shrop careernerd : Any more feedback from the Aegir BoF?
[01:28:48]<ergonlogic>also anyone lese who was in attandance ^^^
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[01:42:15]<obicke>ergonlogic: Howdy. Are you planning to do another aegir meat-space meetup in Montreal anytime soon?
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[01:47:40]<ergonlogic>obicke: I'd love to
[01:48:05]<ergonlogic>obicke: we just did a provision_civicrm sprint last week, which I think was pretty productive
[01:48:43]<ergonlogic>obicke: one on Aegir itself would be wonderful
[01:48:44]<obicke>oh... I didn't know about that... cool! ... not that I'll be provisioning Civi anytime soon.
[01:49:11]<ergonlogic>yeah, it wasn't 'public' per se
[01:49:24]<obicke>ack
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[01:49:37]<ergonlogic>obicke: what'd you have in mind?
[01:51:30]<ergonlogic>SynchroM: any luck with the squid proxy?
[01:51:40]<obicke>ergonlogic: actually, it was just a question... but otherwise, if you just did something, give the troops a couple weeks to recover then pick a date/time... i'd probably start with "just a meetup" as opposed to a sprint... evaluate the interest and priorities of the people present... then plan something else.
[01:52:28]<SynchroM>ergonlogic: nope
[01:52:56]<obicke>ergonlogic: I was surprised to see that aegir isn't in any session at drupalcon... there is only one BoF
[01:53:31]<obicke>I'm not sure what to make of that...
[01:53:33]<ergonlogic>obicke: yep, our training and session proposals were turned down
[01:54:09]<obicke>afaict, there's is a decent community growing around aegir... but something is amiss
[01:54:26]<obicke>that is if "amiss" is even a word
[01:54:32]<obicke>;-)
[01:54:47]<ergonlogic>obicke: yeah there were almost 30 people at the BoF, iirc
[01:55:10]<obicke>ergonlogic: were any other aegir sessions proposed by others?
[01:55:13]<ergonlogic>obicke: and the sessions we did in London were standing-room only
[01:55:22]<obicke>WTF
[01:55:24]<ergonlogic>obicke: at least one, yes
[01:55:34]<obicke>hmmm....
[01:56:18]<obicke>if there is a community here... it might need to make some noise about this...
[01:57:26]<ergonlogic>well, for Munich maybe
[01:57:36]<ergonlogic>too late for DEnver, obviously
[01:57:48]<obicke>I mean, afaik, aegir is the only fully available provisioning option in the community.... i.e. pantheon is very cool, but not all available afaik
[01:57:59]<ergonlogic>yep
[01:58:02]<obicke>and garden is a walled garden
[01:58:51]<ergonlogic>I assume between politics and sponsorship, there weren't many session spots available
[01:59:00]<ergonlogic>but that's just my sour grapes
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[02:00:05]<ergonlogic>imo, the session selection process is less than transparent
[02:01:39]<obicke>ergonlogic: anyway, IMO, it would be important to produce some kind of "We'll we couldn't 'represent' at Drupalcon, so here's what's up with 'the only fully available provisioning option in the community'" post.
[02:01:54]<obicke>but that's just a $0.02...
[02:02:03]<obicke>I can't afford to give much more.
[02:02:51]<obicke>otherwise, there is a risk of decreased perceived relevance
[02:03:15]<obicke>I meant... the post might help avoid risk of decreased perceived relevance
[02:04:37]<ergonlogic>right
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[02:09:56]<obicke>drupalcon keynote streaming live now...
[02:10:36]<obicke>starts with a promotion of acquia's drush based workflow API buzzword buzzword stuff
[02:11:18]<David_Hernandez>http://denver2012.drupal.org/live
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[02:22:01]<omega8cc>who cares about buzz, we are rebels here, from the day one :)
[02:22:34]<obicke>omega8cc: rebels have to "Represent!" too. :-)
[02:23:24]<omega8cc>obicke: maybe, but not always, not at all costs
[02:23:30]<obicke>agreed
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[02:29:03]* obicke likes the place given to mozilla as keynoter... pushing "the web as a platform" in contrast to the centralized hardware+software+store solutions being developed by all the big players... IMO, the analogy is applicable to aegir within the drupal community.
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[02:36:27]<omega8cc>obicke: here is what I think about it and what we are doing to make it happen: http://omega8.cc/about
[02:37:56]<obicke>omega8cc: scanned it quickly... Cool.
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[04:28:40]<ergonlogic>anarcat: do you know any way to set the env variable "http_proxy" for the aegir user?
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[05:01:44]<SynchroM>ergonlogic: the normal ways all work fine for a normal shell account - setting vars in /var/aegir/.bashrc or /etc/environment - the problem happens when it's run via a non-interactive shell (e.g. from aegir), when none of those sources are used. As far as I can see it needs to be coded into drush somehow.
[05:02:27]<ergonlogic>SynchroM: yeah... that's what I've seen too
[05:03:50]<ergonlogic>there was a suggestion that they could be set by apache, like the DB credentials
[05:04:29]<SynchroM>it would help if I could track down exactly where in drush's code the transfer requests are done. I have tried patching all the wget and curl calls, but they don't seem to be used. I saw a mention somewhere that it now uses file_get_contents instead
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[05:05:55]<ergonlogic>I haven't looked in any depth at Drush Make's code...
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[05:32:13]<hefring>community => Where's Aegir at DrupalCon Denver? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/wheres-aegir-drupalcon-denver
[05:36:46]<obicke>speaking of posts that'll be on d.o/planet related to aegir: http://drupalsun.com/find?search_api_views_fulltext=aegir
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[05:39:07]<omega8cc>ergonlogic: thanks! http://www.koumbit.org/en/articles/where-aegir-drupalcon-denver
[05:39:10]<obicke>that segway is kinda screwed but het
[05:39:12]<obicke>hey
[05:39:38]<ergonlogic>omega8cc: :)
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[05:51:54]<joestewart>ergonlogic: thanks for the post.
[05:52:12]<joestewart> If people want to get together more to discuss aegir at Drupalcon, I'm up for it.
[05:52:30]<ergonlogic>joestewart: thanks for representing Aegir at DrupalCon :)
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[05:53:45]<omega8cc>hefring: tell Vertice: heh - http://twitter.com/AdrianRossouw/status/178040630906327040
[05:53:45]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when Vertice is around.
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[06:46:32]<ergonlogic>Listening to Dries' keynote... Did he just say "One Drupal to Rule Them All?"
[06:46:49]<ergonlogic>about minute 19
[06:48:43]<joestewart>ergonlogic: he had this post awhile back - http://buytaert.net/one-drupal-to-rule-them-all
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[06:51:37]<ergonlogic>joestewart: hmm... ok. I was thinking: http://www.koumbit.org/sites/www.koumbit.org/files/aegir.png
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[06:54:00]<ergonlogic>that image pre-dates Dries' blog post by about 9 months
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[09:14:16]<realityloop>omega8cc: ping
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[09:19:33]<omega8cc>realityloop: pong
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[09:20:24]<realityloop>omega8cc: did you have a chance to check D8 via the nginx stuff yet?
[09:21:46]<omega8cc>realityloop: not yet, sorry, but it is on my to-do
[09:22:50]<omega8cc>realityloop: does it work at all? I mean d8 in general :)
[09:23:12]<realityloop>omega8cc: whitescreen after selecting the profile
[09:23:26]<realityloop>this is with a manual vhost, not via aegir
[09:24:02]<omega8cc>realityloop: and what dev. subdomain says about the wsod?
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[09:24:43]<omega8cc>there shouldn't be any magic involved, imo
[09:25:02]<realityloop>http://d8x.ld/core/install.php?langcode=en 502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.0.6
[09:25:32]<realityloop>trying to get some debug output
[09:26:12]<omega8cc>1.0.6? rather old, is it on boa or standalone nginx install?
[09:27:53]<realityloop>omega8cc: our local.. http://realityloop.com/blog/2011/10/25/mac-os-x-nginx-mariadb-php-aegir-...
[09:28:11]<omega8cc>realityloop: how have you added support for php in subdirectory?
[09:28:24]<omega8cc>extra location?
[09:28:37]<realityloop>omega8cc: extra location? /core?
[09:28:41]<omega8cc>yes
[09:28:59]<omega8cc>extra location is required
[09:31:44]<omega8cc>realityloop: maybe just https://gist.github.com/2153801 added right above https://gist.github.com/2153802
[09:31:58]<realityloop>http://pastebin.com/RwMmLkYX
[09:33:55]<realityloop>omega8cc: nope that didn't work
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[09:34:24]<omega8cc>wrong wildcard fixed: https://gist.github.com/2153801
[09:35:43]<omega8cc>this should work as it basically sends it to drupal
[09:35:55]<realityloop>still 502's
[09:36:36]<omega8cc>anything in php logs?
[09:36:42]<realityloop>gets to http://d8x.ld/core/install.php?langcode=en&profile=standard with whitescreen now though
[09:37:43]<omega8cc>but i didn't try that yet, I hope I will find a time next week
[09:39:37]<omega8cc>realityloop: btw, what is your php-fpm version?
[09:41:31]<realityloop>omega8cc: debug http://pastebin.com/czdkn9KT
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[09:42:34]<realityloop>checking fpm version
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[09:44:35]<realityloop>if I can figure out.. php version is 5.3.8
[09:44:56]<realityloop>does that mean it 5.3.8?
[09:45:55]<omega8cc>for sure? then it shouldn't be this issue: http://drupal.org/node/1463564 but maybe there is something php-fpm specific here, no idea
[09:45:56]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1463564 => Drupal 8 does not work with PHP 5.3.2 (the version shipped with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) => Drupal core, base system, normal, active, 59 comments, 1 IRC mention
[09:46:54]<omega8cc>This "upstream prematurely closed connection" means it is something in the php-fpm backend/config, not in Nginx
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[09:55:03]<realityloop>omega8cc: FPM conf.. http://pastebin.com/vg71szn4
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[09:58:06]<realityloop>I'll take a look into it.. but have to goto a session now
[09:58:08]<omega8cc>realityloop: maybe uncomment error_log so you will get some debug output
[09:58:11]<realityloop>omega8cc: thanks
[09:58:18]<omega8cc>np
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