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| [11:28:33] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: ping |
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| [14:00:12] | <Tigeda> | Can anyone give me an example of how they differentiate the cost of aegir based hosting for clients? |
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| [14:15:36] | <L-four> | So I have installed the latest version of Aegir 1.7 and now it wont generate SSL certificates does anyone know a fix for this? this is a issue on d.o. http://drupal.org/node/1493286 but it has no replies. |
| [14:15:37] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1493286 => SSL certificates no being created => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [15:19:00] | <L-four> | Never Mind I figured it out/ |
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| [18:57:53] | <darthsteven> | Giving this aegir-up thing a spin... |
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| [20:24:39] | <darthsteven> | hefring: tell anarcat I broke generating SSL certs in 1.7, http://drupal.org/node/1493286, fixed in 6.x-1.x, we should probably roll out a 1.8 on Monday to fix that bug? |
| [20:24:40] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1493286 => SSL certificates not being created => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, active, 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [20:24:40] | <hefring> | darthsteven: I'll pass that on when anarcat is around. |
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| [20:40:08] | <hefring> | Git => Revert "Fix SSL key name sanitisation." => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/1e4b8d8c2227aa34... |
| [20:40:08] | <hefring> | Git => Issue #1493286 by jm.federico: Fixed SSL certificates not being created. => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/f90a37af88abaa2b... |
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| [22:02:27] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: ping |
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| [23:47:12] | <Pls> | hey, I have some weird permissions problem with aegir, would appreciate if someone can give me a tip. |
| [23:49:14] | <Pls> | So, the problem is that every time I try to backup a site it wont with error: "... Permission denied sed: couldn't write 40 items to stdout: Broken pipe mysqldump: Got errno 32 on write." That's basically saying that aegir cant write to main site directory to create a SQL dump, so that's clear for me. Basic solution would be to change sites/mysite.com directory permissions to 775 and error goes away. |
| [23:50:08] | <Pls> | But the problem is that it repeats again when trying to backup/verify site in future. Would be nice to know the roots of this problem. |
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| [00:14:49] | <darthsteven> | Pls: odd |
| [00:15:14] | <darthsteven> | Pls: have you run out of diskspace or something? Or are you running the command as *not* the aegir user? |
| [00:16:17] | <Pls> | darthsteven: I'm sure there's no problem with diskspace. And I'm running these tasks straight from frontend so this is surely aegir user executing it. |
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| [00:17:43] | <darthsteven> | Pls: random |
| [00:19:34] | <Pls> | darthsteven: I'm suspecting this could be problem in aegir user and its misconfiguration. Can't think of any other possible reason. |
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| [00:25:32] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: pong |
| [00:25:45] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: hello! |
| [00:25:49] | <ergonlogic> | hi |
| [00:25:49] | <hefring> | what's up |
| [00:26:21] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: I'm glad to see you like Aegir-up :) |
| [00:26:23] | <mrfelton> | Since upgrading to Aegir 1.7, I'm having strange problems with caching/redirects that I can't explain. Clicking around a site sometimes results in a the new page being displayed, but sometimes doesn't. The URL always changes as I click around, but the content does't always refresh. I often have to click on a link several times, or wait several seconds before the content actually refeshes, dispute the URL changing |
| [00:26:50] | <mrfelton> | anyone else seen this? Or know what could be the cause? |
| [00:27:31] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I'm generally getting into the whole Vagrant thing |
| [00:27:45] | <ergonlogic> | yep, a very cool project |
| [00:27:55] | <darthsteven> | I have some Parallels VMs that are templates that I'd love to swap out for Vagrant |
| [00:28:09] | <darthsteven> | I was wondering if you had some time to chat through some aegir-up stuff? |
| [00:28:16] | <ergonlogic> | of course |
| [00:28:17] | <mrfelton> | For example, click around www.systemseed.com |
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| [00:31:23] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: looks like a problem with the barracuda X-Speed-Cache maybe? |
| [00:31:32] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: right, firstly, well done |
| [00:31:46] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: what you have at the moment is great |
| [00:31:49] | <mrfelton> | darthsteven: that was what I was thinking. But neither the aegir system, or the remote slave system are Barracuda systems |
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| [00:32:06] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: according to the HTTP headers they are |
| [00:32:45] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: Are there plans to use a more 'common' base box? |
| [00:32:53] | <mrfelton> | darthsteven: I noticed that there are references to Barracuda and Octopus in Provision on the aegir server. I just assumed that some of this stuff had been merged into the Provision mainline |
| [00:32:59] | <ergonlogic> | mrfelton: "There are only two hard problems in Computer Science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors" |
| [00:33:07] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: Are there plans to make a 32bit version? |
| [00:33:21] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: there already is a 32-bit version |
| [00:33:32] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: oh? |
| [00:33:35] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: and it should work with any Debian basebox |
| [00:33:50] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: also awesome |
| [00:34:17] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I tried to get it working on one of my 32bit machines and it did not, is there anything special I need to do? |
| [00:34:18] | <ergonlogic> | I publish my own, because most of the ones available publicly pre-date veewee, and so are about 2x as big as they need to be |
| [00:34:27] | <ergonlogic> | and are not really maintained |
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| [00:34:50] | <ergonlogic> | hang on, I'll get you the url of the 32-bit basebox |
| [00:35:56] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: cool |
| [00:36:04] | <mrfelton> | darthsteven: It does look like Provision 1.7 now contains references to barracuda |
| [00:36:09] | <mrfelton> | has that always been the case? |
| [00:36:12] | <mrfelton> | or, something new |
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| [00:36:40] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: hmmm...I would imagine that is new |
| [00:36:53] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: omega8cc has been adding stuff to aegir mainline |
| [00:36:58] | <mrfelton> | darthsteven: well, I'm positive that neither of these systems are Barracuda systems |
| [00:37:03] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: okay |
| [00:37:42] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: I seem to remember there being a microcache thing that got added to aegir for nginx |
| [00:37:50] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: but I don't know how that works |
| [00:37:58] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: so, sorry |
| [00:38:04] | <mrfelton> | darthsteven If I were to revert Provision to 1.6, and reverify the servers, would I likey have problems? |
| [00:38:04] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: see: http://community.openatria.com/c/aegir-up/base-boxes#troubleshooting |
| [00:38:46] | <mrfelton> | ping omega8cc |
| [00:38:53] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: probably not, but possible |
| [00:39:15] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: btw, Aegir-up's baseboxes are listed at http://vagrantbox.es/ |
| [00:39:21] | <darthsteven> | mrfelton: we will likely have a 1.8 release next week, so if you could diagnose and fix we could roll that into a proper release |
| [00:39:36] | <ergonlogic> | which is about as close to 'official' as exists right now |
| [00:39:50] | <mrfelton> | darthsteven: I've been trying to but I don't really understand all this advanced nginx level caching stuff |
| [00:40:42] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: this looks wrong: X-Speed-Cache-Key: $request_uri |
| [00:41:05] | <mrfelton> | Well omega8cc that is in includes/nginx_simple_include.conf |
| [00:41:06] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: is that vanilla 1.7? |
| [00:41:10] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: yes |
| [00:41:27] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: awesome, trying that now |
| [00:41:42] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: the next thing I'd need/want is the shared folder thing |
| [00:41:50] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: this is what lives in that file on the remote server: http://cl.ly/0a3y223q2B2a2G0b3146 |
| [00:41:58] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: yeah, I responded in the issue |
| [00:42:05] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: I have an idea how to do it |
| [00:42:17] | <ergonlogic> | may take a day or two though |
| [00:42:37] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: also, are you using the official release? |
| [00:42:55] | <ergonlogic> | because there's some exciting new features in the 'testing' branch |
| [00:43:15] | <ergonlogic> | and I'm looking at rolling a new release next week to integrate that |
| [00:43:19] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: at the moment, in Parallels on my mac I just change the provision command and hostmaster profile directories to be symlinks to a shared folder which maps back to hostmaster and provision on my host machine |
| [00:43:22] | <ergonlogic> | but it could use more testing :) |
| [00:43:23] | <darthsteven> | if that makes sense |
| [00:43:36] | <darthsteven> | official branch :) |
| [00:43:41] | <darthsteven> | what's new in testing? |
| [00:43:57] | <ergonlogic> | well, autocomplete of the shell scripts is kinda neat |
| [00:44:07] | <darthsteven> | mapping the whole /var/aegir directory seems to be a permissions nightmare |
| [00:44:33] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: $request_uri is in internal Nginx variable, so it should be replaced with its value there, is it some multi-server setup maybe? |
| [00:44:33] | <ergonlogic> | but imo, it's being able to share a project definition, and clone it properly |
| [00:45:10] | <ergonlogic> | there's better project initializing |
| [00:45:31] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: yes - it's multi server. Not cluster or pack, just one remote server, configured since 1.2 or something like that |
| [00:45:36] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: please open an issue in the Provision queue with details about your setup, as it works on single-server install w/o issues |
| [00:45:44] | <ergonlogic> | and an 'aegir-up ssh <project> [<vm>]' command that's pretty slick |
| [00:45:48] | <ergonlogic> | imho :) |
| [00:45:56] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: will do |
| [00:46:00] | <omega8cc> | thanks |
| [00:46:17] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: re. permissions, yeah, it might be... |
| [00:46:57] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: cool, I like the project templates thing btw |
| [00:48:12] | <ergonlogic> | I figure on adding templates for CiviCRM, Drupal 8 (now that omega8cc's got a patch to support it), the new D7 Open Atrium, etc. |
| [00:49:02] | <ergonlogic> | I'm considering changing the name 'project' to something else though |
| [00:49:16] | <ergonlogic> | 'system' or 'network' maybe |
| [00:49:57] | <ergonlogic> | 'project' is just used in too many places in Drupal already |
| [00:50:52] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: the problem you have now is that it takes '$request_uri' as a literal string for all requests, so you have basically totally screwed caching, as it is using the same key for all requests - which never happens if the nginx cache is local |
| [00:50:53] | <darthsteven> | is the dev template for developing Aegir or other stuff? |
| [00:51:07] | <darthsteven> | i.e. can I file patches against it for my own Aegir development ends? |
| [00:51:18] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: any idea what that would be happening? |
| [00:51:41] | <mrfelton> | could it be because the nginx version on the remote server is older? |
| [00:51:57] | <mrfelton> | nginx/0.7.65 on the remote server. vs nginx/1.1.0 on the aegir server |
| [00:52:35] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: no idea yet, as I know nothing about your setup on both local and remote head, please post details in the issue |
| [00:52:49] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: I'm writing it up now |
| [00:52:52] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: yep, mostly for developing Aegir |
| [00:53:09] | <mrfelton> | anything specific that would help you understand? |
| [00:53:22] | <ergonlogic> | the default template is probably sufficient for regular Drupal dev |
| [00:53:38] | <darthsteven> | lovely |
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| [00:54:47] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: attaching full config (nginx main config file and includes used in vhosts on both servers) could help |
| [00:54:57] | <mrfelton> | k |
| [00:56:50] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: wait, nginx/1.1.0 ?? |
| [00:57:02] | <mrfelton> | thats what it says |
| [00:57:39] | <omega8cc> | its is dev, not supported yet, as it introduced API changes w/o backward compatibility, use 1.0.x stable |
| [00:57:53] | <mrfelton> | both are running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS. So I'm a little unclear why one has such a new version, and one has an older one |
| [00:58:09] | <omega8cc> | ubuntu folks are crazy |
| [00:58:12] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: ok, but the remote is using an older version anyway, and its the remote where the problem is |
| [00:58:22] | <mrfelton> | sites on the aegir server are working ok |
| [00:58:23] | <omega8cc> | they are putting dev nginx in the LTS |
| [00:59:15] | <omega8cc> | but 1.1.x should basically fail to work, or cause unexpected wtf |
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| [01:00:58] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: I would suggest to use nginx-1.0.14 on both servers and then start debugging, as otherwise we don't know what we are debugging really |
| [01:03:05] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: ok, I'll try that. |
| [01:03:09] | <mrfelton> | the conf files are at http://drupal.org/node/1496332 |
| [01:03:10] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1496332 => Issues with nginx cache on remote server after upgrading to 1.7 => Provision, HTTP Service, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [01:03:22] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: k, thanks |
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| [01:04:59] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: I think the newer version of aginx on the aegir server may have come from the passenger nginx install script |
| [01:06:48] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: they are crazy anyway, see: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/nginx-full it is nginx-dev added in the upcoming LTS |
| [01:07:20] | <mrfelton> | yeah, that seems pretty stupid. Doesn't that completely go against the idea of an LTS release?! |
| [01:08:03] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
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| [01:11:36] | <mrfelton> | nginx version: nginx/1.0.14 |
| [01:11:40] | <mrfelton> | Starting nginx: nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "track_uploads" in /var/aegir/config/includes/nginx_advanced_include.conf:545 |
| [01:12:42] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: after commenting out that line so that nginx could start properly, the problem looks to be resolved, on first glance |
| [01:14:07] | <mrfelton> | I did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get remove nginx ; sudo apt-get install nginx, and kept my old configs (maybe I would have been better off replacing them) |
| [01:14:25] | <mrfelton> | that was on the remote server |
| [01:15:33] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: random thought: instead of aegir-up-init being a shell script, could it be as drush command? |
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| [01:16:01] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: mostly because that would be cool! |
| [01:16:50] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: it would be cool :) |
| [01:17:23] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: but I've actually been thinking of re-implementing aegir-up as a vagrant plug-in / ruby gem |
| [01:17:24] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: provision decides which include version to use after checking nginx compiled in stuff, so expect issues doing it in the reverse order |
| [01:17:34] | <ergonlogic> | not any time soon, of course... |
| [01:18:02] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: I see, so probably because the remote server doesn't have the same compiled in stuff as the aegir master |
| [01:19:08] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: maybe aegir should actually check what is compiled in on the remote server, and build up its include files based on that, rather than assuming its the same as the aegir master? |
| [01:19:37] | <mrfelton> | s/aegir/provision/g |
| [01:19:46] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: now it works correctly: https://gist.github.com/2171044 |
| [01:20:05] | <mrfelton> | yep, we seem to b good now :) |
| [01:20:06] | <mrfelton> | phew! |
| [01:20:46] | <mrfelton> | omega8cc: should it be reporting "X-Engine: Barracuda 1.0 ET" ? It's not running Barracuda |
| [01:21:39] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: yeah, I will remove this header to avoid confusion |
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| [01:32:10] | <mvc> | omega8cc: congrats on joining the core maintainer team :) |
| [01:32:31] | <mvc> | (since i think that's new) |
| [01:33:34] | <omega8cc> | mvc: thanks! |
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| [01:35:02] | <omega8cc> | mrfelton: changed to X-Engine Aegir in dev |
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| [01:54:16] | <mrfelton> | coolio |
| [02:00:22] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: still around? |
| [02:00:50] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: yep |
| [02:01:46] | <darthsteven> | I would like to add my own puppet configs to the ones in aegir-up, there is a modules folder within my project, can I just pop them in there? Is it magic? |
| [02:02:32] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: not quite magic |
| [02:02:52] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: you'd need to add an Include statement to manifests/hm.pp |
| [02:03:22] | <darthsteven> | okay |
| [02:03:37] | <ergonlogic> | but otherwise, yes, anything in a project's modules folder should be available |
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| [02:25:58] | <xolo> | What is the best practice for restoring/importing an Aegir/BOA site backup to another Aegir/BOA server? Essentially, I'd like to create a copy of my production site from my production BOA server to my staging BOA server. |
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| [02:52:38] | <cleanpixel> | hm - anybody able to help with this error: |
| [02:52:40] | <cleanpixel> | Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required '/usr/share/drush/commands/core/rsync.core.inc' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/aegir/.drush/provision/provision.service.inc on line 5 |
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| [02:54:07] | <cleanpixel> | different path for pear than expected or something like this? |
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| [03:06:34] | <cleanpixel> | hm - seems like drush lacks the rsync-command...? |
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| [04:23:04] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: my afternoon's work(ish) http://drupal.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1496602, nasty but working |
| [04:28:10] | <ergonlogic> | hmm, ok |
| [04:29:18] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: I'll merge the hostmaster/provision mapping |
| [04:32:25] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: you were right about the permission hell trying to use NFS |
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| [04:47:10] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I would leave it unnerved for now, let me test it properly |
| [04:47:28] | <darthsteven> | *unmerged |
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| [04:52:58] | <ergonlogic> | sure |
| [04:53:55] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: project structure is about to change somewhat, as there are settings that aegir-up writes, and I've isolated those in a .config |
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| [04:54:30] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, the upshot is that you should only ever have to maintain the 'project' git repo to do whatever you like |
| [04:54:39] | <ergonlogic> | and not have to fork all aegir-up |
| [04:54:53] | <ergonlogic> | if that makes sense |
| [04:55:04] | <ergonlogic> | this NFS BS is melting my brain |
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| [05:23:33] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I'm not sure NFS is worth it, Drupal doesn't seem too slow to me |
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| [06:25:07] | <millette> | hello |
| [06:25:59] | <millette> | I am recently seeing lots of "aegir apache2: test" entries in syslog (php all errors, warnings, notifications, etc) with Aegir 1.6 |
| [06:26:45] | <millette> | any idea where those could be coming from? Perhaps a new site alias, if the domain isn't pointing to the right machine yet? Something else? |
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| [07:53:01] | <millette> | is it safe to use aegir 1.7 and drush >= 5.x together? |
| [07:53:53] | <millette> | any gotchas I should know about before upgrading to 1.7 debian stable release? |
| [07:56:53] | <millette> | Ok, "Also note that 2.x development is moving ahead with Drush 5 and Drupal 7 support", so that's one question answered.. |
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| [08:02:34] | <anarcat> | millette: no |
| [08:02:34] | <hefring> | anarcat: 11 hours 37 min ago <darthsteven> tell anarcat I broke generating SSL certs in 1.7, http://drupal.org/node/1493286, fixed in 6.x-1.x, we should probably roll out a 1.8 on Monday to fix that bug? |
| [08:02:40] | <anarcat> | millette: and no :) |
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| [08:04:52] | <millette> | anarcat, In that case, I'll probably do the upgrade, unless the debian package will be released Monday as well :-) |
| [08:05:06] | <anarcat> | maybe! :) |
| [08:05:15] | <millette> | doh! |
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