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| [11:31:54] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: hi |
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| [11:47:25] | <realityloop> | server issues? http://community.aegirproject.org/ |
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| [12:10:00] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: ping |
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| [12:16:05] | <berniecram> | hi all, I have a site which failed during the install and so won't delete through the aegir front end, can I just rm the folder and verify the platform to get rid of it from the frontend? |
| [12:16:39] | <berniecram> | error due to no settings.php |
| [12:20:00] | <realityloop> | berniecram: goto content list and delete from there |
| [12:22:51] | <berniecram> | realityloop++ |
| [12:22:54] | <berniecram> | thanks |
| [12:23:38] | <realityloop> | berniecram: np |
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| [14:26:12] | <anarcat> | mig5: pong |
| [14:26:12] | <hefring> | anarcat: 7 hours 5 min ago <ergonlogic> tell anarcat we're moving the Monday scrums up by 1 hour (for now) as per your request, and starting a second one on Thursdays, to accomodate Mig5 and Omega8cc |
| [14:26:26] | <anarcat> | a *second* one?! |
| [14:26:31] | <anarcat> | wtf |
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| [14:35:47] | <mig5> | anarcat: but you don't have to attend :) |
| [14:36:04] | <mig5> | ping was just re: community.aegirproject.org being 503 error a few hours ago, but someone fixed it |
| [14:36:53] | <mig5> | though hmm, down for me again. |
| [14:38:32] | <anarcat> | yeah, we're having tons of problems with that damn server |
| [14:38:39] | <anarcat> | hoping to setup a pack there to fix shit |
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| [16:27:25] | <hefring> | Git => Issue #1498774 by jm.federico - Set higher value for map_hash_bucket_size in Nginx... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/b66ea0916138e9ea1... |
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| [18:12:35] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: Did you change the release process in the end, and did the release process docs get updated accordingly? |
| [18:12:35] | <hefring> | darthsteven: 10 hours 52 min ago <ergonlogic> tell darthsteven we're moving the Monday scrums up by 1 hour (for now) as per anarcat's request, and starting a second one on Thursdays, to accomodate Mig5 and Omega8cc |
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| [19:19:54] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: this possible at all? http://drupal.org/node/1503712 |
| [19:19:55] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1503712 => Ability to entere different username for remote connections? => Remote import - Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [19:22:33] | <darthsteven> | realityloop: yes! But you have to hack Aegir to do it at the moment, which is kinda stupid |
| [19:26:55] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: doh.. where do I need to hack? is there a related issue? |
| [19:27:22] | <darthsteven> | realityloop: 5 mins... |
| [19:27:28] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: cheers |
| [19:29:29] | <darthsteven> | realityloop: From memory you have to set a property in the context for the remote server for the remote 'aegir' user, but even when you do it is just ignored :( |
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| [19:31:28] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: thats somewhat annoying |
| [19:35:48] | <darthsteven> | indeed |
| [19:37:07] | <darthsteven> | realityloop: what you need to do is set the 'script_user' property on the context of the remote server, and then hack this line: http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/refs/heads/6.x-1.x:/pro... |
| [19:37:33] | <darthsteven> | so that it actually uses it |
| [19:37:39] | <darthsteven> | I'll write up in an issue in a min |
| [19:39:35] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: doh.. I'm using the version of provision that omega8cc did that supports D8 |
| [19:39:56] | <realityloop> | found the related line though |
| [19:40:19] | <darthsteven> | nice, that version will be called 6.x-2.x soon enough possibly |
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| [19:54:20] | <realityloop> | darthsteven: that worked,, just did a hard edit to that line temporarily |
| [19:54:57] | <darthsteven> | realityloop: yeah...I need to get my head around if this is a real bug or not, and then hopefully we'll get a fix into 1.8 if it is |
| [19:55:06] | <darthsteven> | which should come out some time this week or next |
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| [20:08:33] | <wroxbox> | is there way aegir could run without php-posix? |
| [20:09:35] | <wroxbox> | latest sles 11 enterprice does not have it anymore in repository, so I need to downgrade all php from 5.3.8 to 5.2.6 to get support for posix |
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| [20:22:07] | <wroxbox> | seen skwashd |
| [20:22:07] | <hefring> | skwashd was last seen in #aegir 4 weeks 4 hours ago saying 'purencool: ping'. |
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| [20:51:30] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: I'm not sure what php-posix does or provides, so not sure, sorry! |
| [20:52:04] | <wroxbox> | darthsteven: The hostmaster-install did not work without posix |
| [20:53:15] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: yeah, but why not, what does that package provide? |
| [20:53:40] | <wroxbox> | darthsteven: it is my question. Why it is as requirement. |
| [20:54:02] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: I don't know :) |
| [20:56:05] | <wroxbox> | darthsteven: there is call posix_getpwuid(posix_geteuid()); |
| [20:56:17] | <darthsteven> | ah yes |
| [20:58:31] | <wroxbox> | the check to no run as root is good securitycheck... but I think I will remove it and remove those posix requirements and upgrade my php and other back to latest. |
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| [21:30:17] | <skwashd> | wroxbox: sup? |
| [21:31:05] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: was just wondering if you could help me to right direction.. |
| [21:31:57] | <skwashd> | with php-posix? |
| [21:32:23] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: I choosed to disable all php coming with sles 11 distro and install zend server. Not the best, but at least it has php-posis and 5.3 php |
| [21:32:38] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: yes, that. |
| [21:33:26] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: You never applied to the job to work with me :) |
| [21:36:16] | <skwashd> | wroxbox: which one was that one? |
| [21:38:58] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: it was the finnish drupal architect position. |
| [21:39:08] | <skwashd> | ah yeah |
| [21:39:31] | <skwashd> | i couldn't sell moving to finland to the family |
| [21:39:56] | <skwashd> | and I thought using google translate on my phone might be a bit obvious during the interview ;) |
| [21:40:23] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: :) |
| [21:41:15] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: friend of mine is still struggling to move from here to downunder. His parents live there. |
| [21:41:52] | <skwashd> | moving here is easy - 30hrs flight time and you're here |
| [21:46:24] | <skwashd> | wroxbox: is anyone from your work going to http://drupalbusinessdays.org ? |
| [21:49:07] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: not sure if one of my bosses goes there. |
| [21:55:47] | <skwashd> | wroxbox: cool. I'll be there - I'm speaking |
| [21:59:53] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: Oh. Would be nice to come. |
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| [22:03:21] | <skwashd> | wroxbox: go talk to your bosses :) |
| [22:03:23] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: hey |
| [22:06:33] | <ivanjaros> | skwashd: hi. so what do you want with reply ? |
| [22:06:58] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: we're building an alternative to aegir (different use cases) |
| [22:07:09] | <skwashd> | and we're creating a bunch of different entity types |
| [22:07:28] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: and we plan to rely on reply (say that 3 times fast) |
| [22:08:12] | <skwashd> | we'd like to get it at least to a beta or rc before launch at the end of april |
| [22:09:34] | <ivanjaros> | skwashd: well reply is not in my priority list right now so if we agree on the concepts i can make you a co-maintainer. |
| [22:09:51] | <ivanjaros> | if you'd like |
| [22:11:26] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: that sounds awesome |
| [22:11:43] | <skwashd> | I'll work in a branch - at least initially |
| [22:13:59] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: are the concepts spelt out somewhere? |
| [22:14:46] | <ivanjaros> | if we take reply as pure comment replacement for d7 is there something else you need it to do ? |
| [22:15:29] | <skwashd> | no for this and possibly other projects I want a generic comment entity which can be attached to any other entity type |
| [22:15:42] | <skwashd> | and reply seems to be perfect for that use case. |
| [22:16:38] | <ivanjaros> | skwashd: ok so we're on the same page. |
| [22:17:57] | <ivanjaros> | skwashd: you should have access to git and issues now |
| [22:18:00] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: cool |
| [22:19:49] | <ivanjaros> | skwashd: if there are something you dont understand in the code or youll find some untranslated comments let me know here or via email on ijaros at gmail |
| [22:21:02] | <ivanjaros> | if i rememebr correctly last i was dealing with displaying the reply on it's page and dispalying a 'reply' user is currenlty replying to if form is set to custom page. |
| [22:23:05] | <skwashd> | ok cool |
| [22:23:18] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: how do you feel about adding uuid support at some point? |
| [22:23:49] | <ivanjaros> | i think we can leave that to d8 |
| [22:24:52] | <ivanjaros> | i think it is planned feature for d8, or they was just considering it, not sure |
| [22:25:01] | <skwashd> | it is in d8 core |
| [22:25:09] | <skwashd> | and i comaintain uuid for D7 |
| [22:25:25] | <skwashd> | it is pretty easy to implement |
| [22:25:34] | <skwashd> | and make it possible to use deploy with reply |
| [22:26:18] | <ivanjaros> | im not against it but how about the compatibility? what one needs to do to implement uuid in d7? or it will be backported from d8 ? |
| [22:26:43] | <skwashd> | the implementations are a little different - one is in core the other is in contrib |
| [22:26:50] | <skwashd> | but there will be a very simple upgrade path |
| [22:27:05] | <skwashd> | most entities need to implement 2 hooks and it is done |
| [22:27:15] | <ivanjaros> | sounds good. i agree |
| [22:27:25] | <skwashd> | :) |
| [22:27:43] | <skwashd> | looks like i have my first todo item - I'll do it in a branch and you can review my work from there |
| [22:29:18] | <ivanjaros> | btw why are you making an alternative to aegir? what features are you missing? i didnt used it yet but im working on a shopping cart saas and i was planning to use aegir as platform to run in from |
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| [22:55:25] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: sorry i was on the phone |
| [22:55:35] | <skwashd> | aegir is designed to manage many sites |
| [22:55:57] | <skwashd> | we're trying to manage 1 large site with many environments and a complex publishing workflow |
| [22:56:11] | <skwashd> | and we're making content editors site builders :) |
| [22:56:41] | <ivanjaros> | skwashd: sounds complex :D |
| [22:56:44] | <skwashd> | all will be revealed in May - http://www.drupalbusinessdays.org/sessions/enterprise-scale-drupal-workflow |
| [22:58:33] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: we're building a devops solution without the dev op needing to be deployed |
| [22:59:12] | <skwashd> | content editors will be able to move a content/code/config change from dev through to live using git and deploy - but never have to touch git |
| [23:01:06] | <wroxbox> | skwashd: Sounds _really_ interesting. |
| [23:01:27] | <ivanjaros> | sounds like you're pulling D8 from the future :) |
| [23:02:32] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: my work on D8 stuff is driven by this project |
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| [23:09:39] | <skwashd> | ivanjaros: one of the things we'll be using reply for is reviewing propose changes |
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| [23:25:40] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i changed the release process and the docs, everything should be up to date |
| [23:25:55] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: a little shaken possibly, as i did a lot of changes, but should be alright |
| [23:28:37] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: awesome |
| [23:29:46] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: if you want to release, maybe i can help you so we make sure that there aren't any quirks |
| [23:30:13] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: indeed, are you around tomorrow? |
| [23:30:27] | <anarcat> | i /should/ be |
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| [00:09:06] | <drupalleppie> | hi |
| [00:09:06] | <hefring> | bonjour |
| [00:09:32] | <drupalleppie> | Are people using Aegir for development management? i.e. hosting and testing drupal sites for customers/clients |
| [00:09:53] | <drupalleppie> | Trying to nail down approach for development and my organisation... |
| [00:17:44] | <skwashd> | drupalleppie: i have used it for that |
| [00:18:39] | <drupalleppie> | skwashd: We are a small organisation, so trying to streamline things a little - thanks for the reply |
| [00:18:58] | <drupalleppie> | skwasd Any pitfalls? |
| [00:19:07] | <drupalleppie> | skwaskd Any pitfalls? |
| [00:19:28] | <skwashd> | drupalleppie: last time i tried there were some issues with remote servers |
| [00:19:56] | <skwashd> | like deplying a site from aegir in the US to a server in Europe would take hours |
| [00:20:31] | <drupalleppie> | Good point |
| [00:21:04] | <drupalleppie> | That is worth knowing |
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| [00:24:04] | <drupalleppie> | skwashd: thanks for your input - appreciate it! |
| [00:26:06] | <skwashd> | drupalleppie: np |
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| [00:37:56] | <SynchroM> | ergonlogic: I've tracked down what's happening with my cache misses: it's failing to use curl and is falling back to drush's internal file downloader, which uses fsockopen and doesn't support proxies |
| [00:39:27] | <ergonlogic> | SynchroM: curl's installed though? |
| [00:39:46] | <SynchroM> | next question is why - drush make runs fine as the local aegir user, but when run remotely from jenkins/fabric (as the same user) it fails. Initially i thought it was non-interactive shell has no env, so has no path, so I changed curl calls to use absolute path, but that didn't help |
| [00:39:49] | <SynchroM> | yes |
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| [00:44:22] | <ergonlogic> | SynchroM: jenkins is telling Aegir to build these platforms via the front-end? or using Drush on the CLI? or directly? |
| [00:48:19] | <SynchroM> | finding out - trying to fathom someone else's setup here |
| [00:52:18] | <SynchroM> | the fabfile contains drush commands which are run on the target server via ssh |
| [00:53:20] | <SynchroM> | main event is: |
| [00:53:26] | <SynchroM> | run("drush make %s /var/aegir/platforms/%s --working-copy" % (makefile, build)) |
| [00:55:10] | <ergonlogic> | SynchroM: is that being run as the 'aegir' user? |
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| [00:55:39] | <SynchroM> | yes |
| [00:56:13] | <ergonlogic> | and the /var/aegir/.curlrc exists on the remote server? |
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| [00:56:32] | <SynchroM> | yes, and the aegir user can see and run curl |
| [00:56:55] | <SynchroM> | all works fine if I log in as the aegir user interactively |
| [00:57:39] | <ergonlogic> | and if you run drush make as the aegir user on the remote server, drush make uses curl, and hits the cache? |
| [00:57:46] | <SynchroM> | yep |
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| [00:58:28] | <ergonlogic> | but not if run via jenkins/fabric? |
| [00:58:36] | <SynchroM> | even works if run crush make via bash -c (i.e. in a non-interactive shell) |
| [00:58:38] | <SynchroM> | no |
| [00:58:58] | <SynchroM> | the deploy all works fine, it just doesn't use curl |
| [00:59:15] | <ergonlogic> | huh |
| [00:59:22] | <SynchroM> | confusing the hell out of me! |
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| [00:59:59] | <ergonlogic> | well, you could try saving a provision context, and handing it off to aegir to build (via drush hosting-import) |
| [01:01:39] | <ergonlogic> | SynchroM: here are the relevant bits: http://drupalcode.org/project/puppet-aegir.git/blob/refs/heads/aegir_bra... |
| [01:02:00] | <ergonlogic> | SynchroM: it's in Puppet, but you should be able to get the gist of it |
| [01:02:43] | <ergonlogic> | basically, 'provision-save [... a bunch of options... ] <platform-name>' |
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| [01:03:12] | <ergonlogic> | then, 'hosting-import <platform-name>' |
| [01:03:15] | <ergonlogic> | give or take |
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| [01:04:37] | <ergonlogic> | that'll have Aegir queue up a task, and then trigger the platform build |
| [01:05:05] | <SynchroM> | it's got to be something really small causing this... |
| [01:05:11] | <ergonlogic> | yep |
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| [01:17:26] | <boztek> | SynchroM: sorry if i missed the point but maybe if you run as aegir from jenkins it will work? |
| [01:20:54] | <boztek> | SynchroM: e.g. in the past i've done things like "sudo -H -u aegir fab build:blah blah" from jenkins |
| [01:21:22] | <boztek> | SynchroM: and give jenkins ability to run as aegir in visudo: "jenkins ALL=(aegir) NOPASSWD: ALL" |
| [01:21:57] | <boztek> | that way you'll get any config files in ~/aegir with the -H option |
| [01:22:11] | <boztek> | so curl should run exactly the same |
| [01:22:16] | <SynchroM> | might give it a try, but it's already being told to connect to remote as aegir |
| [01:22:29] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: missed you at drupalcon |
| [01:27:23] | <boztek> | SynchroM: there is a full aegir running on the target server right? ie it's not just an aegir multiserver slave ? |
| [01:27:48] | <SynchroM> | it is a slave |
| [01:28:29] | <boztek> | hmmmm - so why are you running drush make on the slave? |
| [01:29:43] | <boztek> | aegir still runs with the spoke model right? that hasnt changed recently? |
| [01:29:55] | <boztek> | ie it rsyncs from "source of truth" to a slave |
| [01:33:48] | <SynchroM> | it's all a bit complicated… |
| [01:34:04] | <boztek> | ok |
| [01:36:17] | <boztek> | with the multiservers from what i understood if you verify the platform it will try to make the platform path on the slave look like the same path on aegir (using rsync) so that's why it sounded strange running drush make on the slave |
| [01:38:01] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: fyi: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/wheres-aegir-drupalcon-denver |
| [01:40:06] | <boztek> | unless you were planning on verifying only once when setting up the platform and then never verifying again - which doesnt sound like a good idea - you've piqued my curiosity :) |
| [01:40:44] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: <sighs /> |
| [01:41:17] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: I'll see if I can be loud for you all with whoever the devops track heads are for munich |
| [01:41:42] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: fwiw, some of us at Koumbit are meeting today to discuss plans for another training proposal |
| [01:41:52] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: that would be greatly appreciated |
| [01:42:04] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: I'll see if I can begin that hunt today :-) |
| [01:42:58] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: I also plan on submitting a half-dozen session proposals |
| [01:43:06] | <SynchroM> | boztek: apologies for being a bit vague, I'm new to drupal and aegir. jenkins runs on a remote machine and deploys to the target via fabric, which runs drush make. I don't know for sure if the target is an aegir slave, but the jenkins machine is also an aegir master, though not necessarily of the target. |
| [01:43:19] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: and will be encouraging everyone else in the Aegir community to do the same |
| [01:45:05] | <boztek> | SynchroM: i see. guess you can double check in aegir to see if the server is there as a slave. good luck :) |
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| [01:45:10] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: also, devops is exactly the space I'm targetting with Aegir-up |
| [01:45:48] | <boztek> | SynchroM: but like i said - building on the slave is not good if you are managing with aegir - if its just another webserver though, disregard. |
| [01:45:55] | <ergonlogic> | which I'm about to release as a drush extension, and re-brand Gear-up, btw |
| [01:46:59] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: you should try to nick the vagrant namespace off the current project that is there, they've done nothing for a while |
| [01:47:19] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: do you have a min to chat about api.aegirproject.org ? |
| [01:47:21] | <SynchroM> | boztek: thanks - I'm waiting for mr aegir to come back so I can pick his brains some more... |
| [01:47:37] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: hmm, I'll ask |
| [01:47:49] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: re. api, sure |
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| [01:48:23] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: so hosting_site_count is a function in both 6.x-1.x and 7.x-2.x of hostmaster |
| [01:48:23] | <darthsteven> | but |
| [01:48:25] | <darthsteven> | http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--site--hosti... |
| [01:48:32] | <darthsteven> | and |
| [01:48:35] | <darthsteven> | http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--site--hosti... |
| [01:48:46] | <darthsteven> | the second is a page not found |
| [01:48:53] | <boztek> | ergonlogic: you're working on a general purpose vagrant dev environment called gear-up ? |
| [01:49:02] | <darthsteven> | which it shouldn't be |
| [01:49:12] | <boztek> | as in not aegir-dev specific but general drupal ? |
| [01:49:25] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: yeah, I've seen some such issues recently |
| [01:49:26] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: sorry was afk |
| [01:49:35] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: haven't had time to work on it |
| [01:49:40] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: devops is the track that probably matches up best true? |
| [01:49:58] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I have ssh access don't I...I'll have a look a tick |
| [01:49:59] | <ergonlogic> | boztek: more or less |
| [01:50:17] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: mostly, yes |
| [01:51:12] | <ergonlogic> | boztek: for Aegir-up, I built a framework that'll spin up various types of VMs based on fairly simple templates |
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| [01:51:46] | <ergonlogic> | boztek: While I intend to use them with/for Aegir, the framework is pretty much independent |
| [01:52:23] | <ergonlogic> | boztek: also, having a local Aegir VM is incredibly useful for regular Drupal development |
| [01:52:42] | <ergonlogic> | boztek: whether actual module/theme development, or site-building |
| [01:53:17] | <ergonlogic> | and now that omega8cc has a patch to support Drupal 8, it could even be used for that |
| [01:53:58] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: k, let me know if/how I can help |
| [01:56:27] | <boztek> | ergonlogic: puppet or chef ? |
| [01:56:58] | <ergonlogic> | boztek: at this point puppet, but it could be easily enough adapted I believe |
| [01:57:24] | <ergonlogic> | I don;t use chef myself though. so it'd take someone who does to engage :) |
| [01:58:43] | <boztek> | i'm living in puppet land at moment so that's good to hear - just saw that the vagrant module went the chef route though I guess there would be no reason the project can't have both - vagrant doesn't care, would just be dupe effort. |
| [01:58:55] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: removed and re-added the branch on the api site, which seems to have done the trick, for now |
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| [01:59:06] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: cool |
| [01:59:18] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: say, which vagrant project were you referring to? |
| [01:59:30] | <ergonlogic> | drush-vagrant has a supported release |
| [01:59:37] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: http://drupal.org/project/vagrant |
| [02:00:04] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: drush-vagrant is something else again |
| [02:00:15] | <ergonlogic> | right |
| [02:00:40] | <ergonlogic> | I plan on using drush-vagrant in Aegir-up|Gear-up|whatever... |
| [02:00:55] | <boztek> | ergonlogic: cool - i'll check that out too. |
| [02:01:46] | <boztek> | bah 2am |
| [02:03:44] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: one problem I see with trying to merge with the vagrant project, is that drush-vagrant already provides the 'drush vagrant' command.. |
| [02:04:07] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: gah! |
| [02:04:16] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: namespace war! |
| [02:04:23] | <ergonlogic> | the vagrantup namespace isn't taken |
| [02:04:38] | <ergonlogic> | but I like 'gear-up' for a couple reasons |
| [02:04:53] | <ergonlogic> | it's phnetically fairly close to aegir-up |
| [02:05:14] | <darthsteven> | when looking for vagrant stuff, I looked at drupal.org/project/vagrant, and then looked no further |
| [02:05:21] | <darthsteven> | a lot of people will do that |
| [02:05:45] | <darthsteven> | drush vagrant is probably too vague anyway |
| [02:05:58] | <darthsteven> | so your actual commands could be something different |
| [02:06:10] | <ergonlogic> | and it allows for the 'drush gui' (gear-up-init) to install Aegir (and even launch it in a browser, probably) |
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| [02:06:49] | <ergonlogic> | I think of Aegir (or hostmaster, at least) as a drush gui |
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| [02:08:28] | <ergonlogic> | I agree that 'drush vagrant' is pretty vague, but there'll inevitably be namespace confilcts for subcommands if both projects live on |
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| [02:15:34] | <darthsteven> | I still maintain that you should try to become a maintainer of the vagrant project and then drop a 2.x version that is a drush command dripping in hotness |
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| [02:23:03] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: yep. I'm writing up an issue now |
| [02:23:14] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: hey, so… just got done chatting with Crell (who was a track chair for Development for Denver) |
| [02:23:20] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: awesome |
| [02:23:40] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: he said they were so tight on space they almost didn't have a drush session. I'm making a mild stink here, but that does seem like a "whoa" for me so |
| [02:24:55] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: it sucks, but he's saying this sort of "We should really have these sessions" stuff is exactly why we have a separate devops track now |
| [02:25:14] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: ok, cool |
| [02:26:08] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: eventually, it may make sense to have a parallel Drupal developer conference, along with the more end-user focus that DC seems to be taking... |
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| [02:26:24] | <darthsteven> | hefring: tell anarcat have a look at: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk and let me know what you think |
| [02:26:24] | <hefring> | darthsteven: I'll pass that on when anarcat is around. |
| [02:26:32] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: I think we all agree that will happen in one form or another eventually |
| [02:26:32] | <darthsteven> | hefring: tell mig5 have a look at: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk and let me know what you think |
| [02:26:32] | <hefring> | darthsteven: I'll pass that on when mig5 is around. |
| [02:26:39] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: by end-user, I include site-builders :) |
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| [02:27:43] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: I appreciate the feedback though. We'll be all over the devops track, and at least one proposal will probably hit the business track |
| [02:28:40] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: ok awesome, well I just don't want to see you all discouraged, and having proposed sessions for 3 straight cons myself with no love, I totally understand |
| [02:29:12] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: of course the flip side to that is that while the con may not have given me any love, Dries has asked me to essentially make this stuff part of drupalcore so... |
| [02:29:56] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: eventually I'd like to see the shops with Aegir-based services start to sponsor too, but that may be a ways off yet. |
| [02:30:16] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: my folks are coming along on that |
| [02:30:17] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: umm... what stuff is being made a part of drupalcore? |
| [02:30:28] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: I don't work for them anymore, but they have some cool stuff on the horizon |
| [02:30:44] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: oh, I'm a D8 initiative owner now… essentially to get panels into core |
| [02:30:46] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: commerce guys, you mean? |
| [02:30:54] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: no I work for Commerce Guys |
| [02:30:58] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: right, I saw that, congrats |
| [02:31:05] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: by "folks" I mean "parents" |
| [02:31:13] | <ergonlogic> | k, that's what i thought |
| [02:31:16] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: http://theworxco.com/ |
| [02:31:24] | <ergonlogic> | oh... right! |
| [02:31:30] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: they're services are all aegir based |
| [02:31:51] | <ergonlogic> | ah... don;t they already sponsor DC? |
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| [02:32:41] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: they have before |
| [02:33:48] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: kvanderw? |
| [02:33:54] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: that's my father yes |
| [02:34:18] | <ergonlogic> | cool |
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| [02:36:50] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: fyi: http://drupal.org/node/1504598 |
| [02:36:50] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1504598 => Discuss merging with Aegir-up project => Vagrant, Miscellaneous, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [02:50:12] | <hefring> | community => Drush 5 and other junk => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk |
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| [03:00:33] | <ergonlogic> | also cross-posted http://drupal.org/node/1504670 and http://drupal.org/node/1504676 |
| [03:00:34] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1504670 => Discuss merging Vagrant-based Drupal/Drush projects => Drush Vagrant Integration, Miscellaneous, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [03:00:34] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1504676 => Discuss merging Vagrant-based Drupal/Drush projects => Aegir-up (Vagrant-based Aegir virtual machine), Miscellaneous, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [03:09:01] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: thanks for your comment |
| [03:11:57] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: this is not really an issue for us since BOA already supports different drush and php versions per Octopus instance on the same server, so it is now easy for us to support both d5 and d8 even if we will move forward with drush 5 in 6.x-2.x and 7.x |
| [03:14:08] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: plus, maybe we could leave fallback to older drush in Provision as we did for 3.x in the past? not sure if this will be still possible with drush 5 |
| [03:16:35] | <darthsteven> | drush 5 does not support drupal 5, apparently |
| [03:16:54] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: people could still run 6.x-1.x for Drupal 5 sites though |
| [03:17:09] | <darthsteven> | people don't actually need Drupal 8 support really |
| [03:17:15] | <darthsteven> | but people will want Drupal 5 support |
| [03:18:02] | <darthsteven> | I'm not even sure if the stuff Aegir needs got into 5.0, so we may need to wait for 5.1 anyway |
| [03:19:48] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: happy to discuss and change/make plans though |
| [03:19:51] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: maybe we just need to review all that new stuff in 5.0 to see if we need/want it now (and why) at this point in time? |
| [03:20:41] | <darthsteven> | it was on the aegir roadmap |
| [03:21:36] | <darthsteven> | infact, it was number 2: http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0 |
| [03:21:44] | <darthsteven> | number 1 is already done |
| [03:21:53] | <darthsteven> | number 3 is a long way off |
| [03:22:19] | <darthsteven> | with a couple of months of adding features to 6.x-2.x we could add a lot of polish |
| [03:25:01] | <omega8cc> | yeah, but I mean some facts, not just because we have it on the roadmap - there is only unit-testing mentioned in relation to drush 5 |
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| [03:26:16] | <omega8cc> | s/facts/features/ |
| [03:27:13] | <joestewart> | in drush 5 bugs are being fixed for make, like multiple profiles can have the same module. |
| [03:27:54] | <omega8cc> | right, that is good point, drush make included and supported |
| [03:31:14] | <omega8cc> | I think we should go with drush 5 and check what can we do to keep backward compatibilty with 4, if possible, and if not, just move forward so people with d5 sites will need to stay on 6.x-1.x |
| [03:41:15] | <darthsteven> | that's pretty much what I want to do |
| [03:41:49] | <darthsteven> | We have D5 sites too that we support, so I'm not just trying to move everyone else to suit our own ends but... |
| [03:41:57] | <darthsteven> | I have a more radical plan anyway |
| [03:42:23] | <darthsteven> | which is that we skip D7 altogether and build the next Aegir frontend on top of D8 |
| [03:42:41] | <darthsteven> | though not sure that's even possible |
| [03:43:03] | <darthsteven> | but it seems that we'll have released the D7 frontend, and then just have to upgrade it to D8 months later |
| [03:43:27] | <darthsteven> | but mostly just a pipe dream really |
| [03:43:48] | <darthsteven> | it seems like we should have had a nice amount of time to add features to 6.x-2.x |
| [03:44:02] | <darthsteven> | but we didn't really add any, and were distracted with the D7 port |
| [03:44:46] | <darthsteven> | so, saying something like we'll stick with D6 for another year may cause some pain, but actually D6 is pretty great, and we could gradually add some useful features and clean hostmaster up a lot |
| [03:44:52] | <darthsteven> | ready for a port |
| [03:44:55] | <darthsteven> | anyway... |
| [03:44:57] | <darthsteven> | home time... |
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| [03:55:43] | <afidegnum> | hello good morining, all, anyone online pls |
| [03:55:53] | <afidegnum> | I need some assistance. |
| [03:57:37] | <afidegnum> | is aegir for drupal 7 or 6? |
| [04:01:21] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: just to let you know that I fully support that "stay with D6 and jump to D8 directly" idea! Love it! D8 is so much better than D7-Vista |
| [04:08:19] | <omega8cc> | afidegnum: it should be listed in the docs or faq, but it isn't, maybe because it is considered obvious - Aegir supports drupal 5.x, 6.x, 7.x out of the box |
| [04:11:00] | <afidegnum> | ok |
| [04:11:22] | <shrop> | omega8cc: haha.. D7-Vista is a term that has been circulating my shop recently.. |
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| [04:16:25] | <afidegnum> | omega8cc: pls I have a normal drupal installation, withcontents in it, is there a way to import it to aegir? |
| [04:21:18] | <omega8cc> | afidegnum: yes - http://community.aegirproject.org/content/content/administrator/post-ins... |
| [04:21:51] | <omega8cc> | shrop: :p |
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| [04:27:23] | <afidegnum> | omega8cc: I finished installing aegir, how do I run it? what is the url to it ? |
| [04:28:23] | <omega8cc> | afidegnum: it has been displayed at the end of the install |
| [04:28:43] | <afidegnum> | ? |
| [04:28:50] | <omega8cc> | on screen |
| [04:29:02] | <omega8cc> | standard one-time login link |
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| [05:21:45] | <ergonlogic> | afidegnum: you can also generate a new login link by running 'drush @hostmaster uli' |
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| [06:04:46] | <afidegnum> | trying to install aegir, removed all my apache configuration, |
| [06:04:58] | <afidegnum> | is there now way to revert them to the old settings,? |
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| [06:48:48] | <afidegnum> | hello, u there? |
| [06:48:57] | <afidegnum> | i was disconnected |
| [06:49:06] | <afidegnum> | how do I purge remove aegir and restore back apache to my server? |
| [06:50:00] | <afidegnum> | the installation configuration is not completed due to dependency error I am findnig hard to remove but I can't remove it, and my default apache2 settings I believe is overwritten |
| [06:51:09] | <mvc> | afidegnum: please consult the documentation, for example http://community.aegirproject.org/uninstalling |
| [06:51:32] | <mvc> | that site also mentions changes aegir has to make to apache configuration files |
| [06:52:07] | <mvc> | you shouldn't have a problem configuring aegir to serve both aegir sites and whatever else is on your machine |
| [06:52:27] | <mvc> | if you are familiar with how basic apache configuration works |
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