IRC logs for #aegir, 2012-03-28 (GMT)

2012-03-27
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[16:55:10]<darthsteven>hefring: log pointer?
[16:55:10]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-03-28#T188253
[16:55:11]<darthsteven>log pointer?
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[17:03:39]<darthsteven>mig5: ping
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[17:16:48]<mig5>hey darthsteven
[17:17:00]<darthsteven>hey hey
[17:17:04]<darthsteven>how are you?
[17:17:40]<mig5>wish I could say great :) still struggling with work
[17:17:42]<mig5>what's up?
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[17:19:18]<darthsteven>I was going to ask something here, but I'm writing it elsewhere, because I think it's better asked on the community site, nothing too exciting
[17:19:21]<darthsteven>sorry for pinging you with nothing to ask in the end
[17:19:52]<mig5>no probs at all
[17:20:33]<mig5>good news is i've been commissioned to work on an aegir implementation for a very large australian client, so hope to be somewhat forced back into involvement starting from next week :)
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[17:25:58]<darthsteven>oh cool
[17:26:10]<darthsteven>http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk#comment... is what I was planning to ask
[17:27:58]<darthsteven>I kinda feel like I'm not particularly focused on Aegir development and keep switching what I'm doing every few weeks, but I feel like what I outlined there would be a good way forward for the project
[17:28:26]<mig5>i don't think any of us are focused on Aegir dev really - or if anyone is, you are the most focused maybe :)
[17:28:31]<mig5>it's an interesting idea
[17:28:33]<darthsteven>I don't feel like we ever really got a chance to go: "right 6.x is stable, lets add a whole bunch of nice features"
[17:29:11]<mig5>yeah, well it's a rolling wheel of sorts. having 3 'main' branches is just doing my head in right now though
[17:29:44]<mig5>you're a bit more optimistic than I re: when D8 is likely to be released.. on the other hand, kicking it off in feature-freeze stage is a good idea if it were to be done
[17:30:31]<mig5>i guess my main concern is if you spent all this effort making 6.x-2.x nice and clean, adding features etc, how much of it are you just gonna have to redo later when D8 port starts.. it's the same issue as porting to D7
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[17:31:04]<mig5>it would probably work so long as at the time you start work on a port, 6.x-2.x becomes bug-fix only
[17:31:13]<mig5>and 6.x-1.x unsupported
[17:31:34]<mig5>kind of like the D5, D6 and D7 style
[17:32:06]<darthsteven>yup, so 2.x would be new features + massive cleanup
[17:32:24]<darthsteven>so that a port would actually be easier
[17:32:29]<darthsteven>and faster
[17:36:07]<wroxbox>latest hostmaster: Adding servers to "pack" is giving two errors. warning: invalid argument suplied for foreach() in aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1-7/includes/common.inc line 1680 AND adding the server to both master and slave cluster gives "user warning: Dublicate entry '87-2' for key 'PRIMARY' query: Insert into hosting_web_pack(vid,nid,web_server,type) values(87,81,2,slave) in hostmaster-6.x-1.7/includes/common.inc line 35
[17:36:07]<wroxbox>76. There might be an issue allready?
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[18:10:10]<wroxbox>is the pack module "way to go" in 1.7 or should I use the cluster way. Too many errors in hostmaster after changed to "pack"
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[18:10:52]<wroxbox>and what is the 6.x-2-dev in
[18:11:10]<wroxbox>and what is the 6.x-2-dev status. Can it be used?
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[18:20:20]<darthsteven>wroxbox: Use pack if you can, please report issues in the issue queues and we will fix them! 6.x-2.x is not ready yet
[18:21:43]<wroxbox>darthsteven: Ok. I will. I was using 1.6 in localhost and none of these errors were there, so now hitting them in production with 1.7 is not good :(
[18:22:54]<wroxbox>I'll try to reproduce the errors.
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[18:35:34]<wroxbox>darthsteven: One error was thet cron did not excecute the @hostmaster hosting-dispatch so the server would be verified in the first place.
[18:36:29]<wroxbox>php is not located in /usr/bin/php as crontab was looking. In my env it is /usr/local/zend/bin/php ... Must create symlink.
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[21:25:50]<nextanz_>Hi all, I have obe small question. Does aegir provides an ability to upgrade whole network of sites? e.g. I have same distribution of Drupal with same set of custom modules on each site. I need a way to update drupal core and custom modules and distribute this update across whole aegir network, is this possible?
[21:26:00]<nextanz_>Hi all, I have one small question. Does aegir provides an ability to upgrade whole network of sites? e.g. I have same distribution of Drupal with same set of custom modules on each site. I need a way to update drupal core and custom modules and distribute this update across whole aegir network, is this possible?
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[21:40:40]<shrop>nextanz_: You can update an entire platform at one time which could do this for all sites running on one platform on one server. Since (currently) on platform can only live on one server, you would have to have the same platform setup on each server and update the platforms per server separately, but it isn't bad at all to do.
[21:41:16]<shrop>There was talk about having platforms span servers for Aegir 2, but I lost track of the conversation.
[21:57:45]<nextanz_>perfect, thanks
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[22:08:54]<dob_>why is aegir so stuoid and sets the from address in emails to the same address as the to address?
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[00:07:09]<hefring>Git => Issue #1505370 by tribe_of_dan - Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type in... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/56451d1f32a6ec669...
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[00:44:37]<wroxbox>Hmm. Hostmaster install. Works. Platform install. Works. Both verify's. Aegir seems to work. Install first site based on the d7 platform. All seems to go right until it "initializing drush commandfile: provision". Loads alias server, loads apache, loads mysql driver, loads platform and then after including /var/aegir/.drush/provision/platform/install.provision.inc it says "Dummy connection failed to fail: sh: mysql: c
[00:44:37]<wroxbox>ommand not found" ... Running commandline mysql with basic user and aegir user fires mysql just fine.
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[00:48:13]<hefring>community => Prevent site delete by platform => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/prevent-site-delete-platform
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[00:51:00]<noecc>wroxbox: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/491
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[02:29:41]<usaussie>i need to set AllowOverrides All for all my platforms (both existing and future). Where would that directive go? I assume in pre.d/ but i can't figure out the syntax.
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[03:19:03]<nixter_>Does aegir support symlinks when moving platforms?
[03:22:09]<ergonlogic>nixter_: you mean when migrating a site between platforms?
[03:26:32]<bgm>aegir will preserve the symlink, iirc
[03:27:17]<bgm>useful to avoid tar.gz the files directory
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[03:36:17]<nixter_>ergonlogic: yes
[03:36:49]<nixter_>also will it create sim links if we wanted our sites folders outside of drupal but symlinked into sites?
[03:37:35]<ergonlogic>nixter_: bgm just answered your first question
[03:37:51]<ergonlogic>so, yes, it'll preserve symlinks you create
[03:37:56]<nixter_>k
[03:38:12]<ergonlogic>it won't create them for you at this point though
[03:38:30]<nixter_>k
[03:38:34]<nixter_>thanks for your help
[03:38:44]<ergonlogic>there is talk of moving site folders under /var/aegir/clients/ though
[03:39:12]<ergonlogic>and symlinking from the platform
[03:39:25]<ergonlogic>to optimize migrations between platforms
[03:39:40]<ergonlogic>but, to my knowledge, it hasn;t been implemented yet
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[03:41:00]<ergonlogic>nixter_: you may want to scan the issue queue for an issue about that and mention your use-case
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[05:17:04]<cmcintosh>is there a way from within a drush provision script to get all of the available packages (module/theme) for a platform?
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[05:24:59]<darthsteven>cmcintosh: yes
[05:25:06]<darthsteven>cmcintosh: I forget how
[05:25:13]<cmcintosh>cool
[05:25:25]<cmcintosh>atm im doing a dirty php scandir
[05:25:44]<darthsteven>http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Provision/platform--provision_drupal.dru...
[05:25:59]<cmcintosh>what im trying to do is to scan a platform and alert when there are any modules that need updating
[05:29:34]<cmcintosh>cool stuff
[05:29:45]<cmcintosh>now to just be able to specify what platform for it to look at
[05:29:54]<cmcintosh>reading code ......
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[05:40:00]<omega8cc>cmcintosh: if there is a site in the platform, you could fire up: drush pml --status=enabled --no-core --type=module and the same for disabled, for themes separately etc, but it helps only if (any) site's context is available
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[05:45:15]<Mac_Weber>hi
[05:45:15]<hefring>yo
[05:45:16]<Mac_Weber>where is the mysql root password located at?
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[05:46:01]<ergonlogic>cmcintosh: have you seen: http://drupal.org/project/update_status_aggregator ?
[05:46:27]<cmcintosh>yea
[05:46:33]<cmcintosh>does not fit my use case
[05:46:43]<cmcintosh>basically looking to have aegir manage that
[05:46:45]<ergonlogic>Mac_Weber: in the site drushrc.php, iirc
[05:47:08]<cmcintosh>its also located in the vhost config files for sites under aegir
[05:47:43]<ergonlogic>cmcintosh: should be easy enough to adapt though, no?
[05:47:52]<cmcintosh>possibly
[05:48:04]<cmcintosh>the thing is im not sending the data
[05:48:32]<cmcintosh>in the setup im building aegir will be to goto/gopher for it, and will need to setup sandboxes when there are changes
[05:48:39]<cmcintosh>getting close to it though
[05:48:49]<Mac_Weber>in BOA, I mean
[05:49:06]<Mac_Weber>ergonlogic: I think it's in a separate file
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[05:49:28]<omega8cc>Mac_Weber: /root/.my.pass.txt
[05:49:33]<ergonlogic>Mac_Weber: oh, no idea
[05:49:48]<Mac_Weber>omega8cc++
[05:49:51]<Mac_Weber>tkz
[05:49:56]<omega8cc>np
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[05:53:38]<usaussie>i need to change the default "AllowOverride none" directive to "AllowOverride All" in the platform's directory conf file. Any reference for how to do that?
[05:53:51]<usaussie>could not figure it out from the api docs
[05:54:16]<usaussie>provision_apache_vhost_config() did not put the directive in the correct place.
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[05:56:14]<cmcintosh>well buggers
[05:56:29]<cmcintosh>when ever i run that function it pulls up the packages for only the hostmaster dir
[05:56:53]<cmcintosh>this is inside of a provision script that already has the platform context
[05:57:13]<cmcintosh>shouldnt there be a list of packages somewhere as part of that object?
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[06:03:42]<cmcintosh>asrgh
[06:04:28]<usaussie>clarification: i need to do that for all platforms, not just on a case by case basis.
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[06:37:51]<usaussie>new query…… is there a platform equivalent for hook_provision_apache_vhost_config? i.e.: to override/add a directive to the platform.d/* conf files. api.aegirproject.org is not throwing any solutions at me at the moment.
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[06:58:40]<wroxbox>noecc: Sorry for late reply. It says mysql command not found for php, even tough it works for aegir and regular users. What makes me wondering is how platform creation and server creation works.
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[07:58:14]<gorange>the shorthand for for file paths under aegir (i.e. files/filename.x rather than sites/sitename/files/filename.x) doesn't work in the theme settings (where the custom logo path is specified).. i end up having to change the logo path manual each time I move from dev to prod.. any idea how to deal with that?
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[09:06:33]<mig5>usaussie: one way to get around the AllowOverride None issue, is to just incorporate your .htaccess changes into the platform's .htaccess and re-verify the platform. the contents of the .htaccess file are 'read in' to the platform-wide vhost on Verify.
[09:06:57]<mig5>usaussie: as far as I know, the AllowOverride None is baked into the platform-wide vhost template (it's a tpl file in provision) right now, so not that easy to override any other way.
[09:08:11]<mig5>correction: we don't 'read in' the .htaccess (we used to) - we now simply do an Include /path/to/platform/.htaccess, so any changes you put in there should work immediately, no re-verify of platforms required
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