| [11:00:02] | <bgm> | (presentation leaded by jamie and josue of PTP) |
| [11:00:12] | <anarcat> | sweet |
| [11:00:12] | <hefring> | anarcat: 2 days 8 hours ago <darthsteven> tell anarcat have a look at: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk and let me know what you think |
| [11:00:16] | <anarcat> | say hi to jamie |
| [11:00:21] | <ergonlogic> | so an Aegir/CiviCRM will be easy to maintain |
| [11:00:32] | <bgm> | :) |
| [11:00:33] | <ergonlogic> | nice, say hi to Jamie for me too, please |
| [11:00:56] | <ergonlogic> | bgm: what's the topic? |
| [11:01:19] | <bgm> | newb question tho, could aegir-up be used on a server to generated images, that windows/mac people could then use to dev with aegir? |
| [11:01:45] | <bgm> | ergonlogic: sysadmin toolsets for civicrm maintenance (drush/aegir/munin+nagios/puppet) |
| [11:02:16] | <ergonlogic> | if you can install drush, you should be able to install aegir-up (via cygwin/homebrew) but I haven;t tested that |
| [11:02:26] | <ergonlogic> | cool |
| [11:02:27] | <bgm> | it won't go in great detail, we have just 1h, so it's just to give ideas to people |
| [11:02:44] | <ergonlogic> | I do have one user already running it on a mac |
| [11:03:02] | <bgm> | i met a guy yesterday who said he was managing an aegir server that has 1 new site per day.. crazy |
| [11:03:05] | <ergonlogic> | but, yes, you could export it as a VirtualBox appliance |
| [11:03:23] | <bgm> | (and soonish they'll expect to have ~ 300-400 sites to upgrade to D7..) |
| [11:03:40] | <ergonlogic> | fun |
| [11:05:25] | <bgm> | aegir is used in so many places, and sometimes the only way to discover those (big) users is in conferences |
| [11:05:38] | <bgm> | (they aren't active in the forums) |
| [11:06:06] | <bgm> | they also had a bunch of civicrm installs, and didn't know about provision_civicrm .. #@! :) |
| [11:08:22] | <ergonlogic> | geez |
| [11:08:55] | <ergonlogic> | lot's of people only see the 'free' in free software |
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| [11:11:05] | <bgm> | in their case, they didn't know how to get involve, or didn't think they had anything to contribute |
| [11:11:58] | <bgm> | it's a weird non-profit, i'll tell you more next time we meet, might have interesting leads |
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| [11:15:38] | <ergonlogic> | k |
| [11:15:48] | <ergonlogic> | I guess we need to do more outreach |
| [11:16:01] | <ergonlogic> | or better |
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| [12:06:48] | <LunkRat> | i'm trying to get my 1.7 instance configured for SSL according to c.a.o/node/29 |
| [12:07:32] | <LunkRat> | I get up to the part that says: If all goes well you will see the following changes in your Aegir file system structure: |
| [12:07:53] | <LunkRat> | all did not go well, because I don't see ssl.d in the places listed |
| [12:08:03] | <LunkRat> | any ideas appreciated ! |
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| [12:19:00] | <LunkRat> | hostmaster site says "This site is using the SSL certificate and SSL key located at config/ssl.d//openssl.crt and config/ssl.d//openssl.key." but ssl.d is not in config |
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| [12:30:31] | <LunkRat> | i'm not sure where to go from here. I followed the doc and have the latest release, but no ssl.d directories are created ;( |
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| [13:13:55] | <LunkRat> | meow |
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| [16:00:01] | <darthsteven> | LunkRat: still around? |
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| [16:40:11] | <realityloop> | halcyonCorsair: ping |
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| [17:45:33] | <wroxbox> | Todays mission is to find reason why Aegir Site creation is doing what its doing. And failing. The log is http://pastebin.com/CRzEAsbn if anyone could look at it. |
| [17:50:43] | <wroxbox> | how to debug? Is it in the database user permissions or something with drush php env settings? |
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| [18:01:16] | <mig5> | Dummy connection failed to fail: sh: mysql: command not found |
| [18:01:29] | <mig5> | so, you have no mysql-client binary on your crazy suse server |
| [18:01:41] | <wroxbox> | drush @hostmaster sqlc works |
| [18:01:57] | <mig5> | drush uses php's mysql library |
| [18:02:03] | <mig5> | sh: mysql: command not found |
| [18:02:07] | <wroxbox> | mysql-client is installed |
| [18:02:09] | <mig5> | try it yourself, type 'mysql' in the terminal |
| [18:02:14] | <wroxbox> | it works |
| [18:02:20] | <mig5> | path-based issue then |
| [18:02:28] | <mig5> | not in the aegir user's $PATH |
| [18:02:43] | <wroxbox> | both for aegir user, root and regular users |
| [18:02:58] | <mig5> | ok, out of ideas |
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| [18:04:02] | <wroxbox> | the database is not local, so running only mysql tells ERROR 2002 (HY000), Can't connect to local mysql server |
| [18:04:26] | <wroxbox> | but using mysql -hdabasehost -uaegiruser -p works |
| [18:04:51] | <mig5> | well, the output is a shell error message saying it couldn't find the binary mysql in the $PATH |
| [18:04:54] | <mig5> | it can't mean anything else |
| [18:05:19] | <mig5> | maybe you have some clever .bashrc alias that puts 'mysql' into the $PATH, that is not discovered via the script |
| [18:06:17] | <mig5> | does suse use Dash instead of Bash as the default shell these days, like Ubuntu |
| [18:07:23] | <wroxbox> | well, don't know. shell is changed bash in /etc/passwd |
| [18:08:55] | <mig5> | what's the output of `which mysql` |
| [18:09:26] | <wroxbox> | usr/bin/mysql |
| [18:10:36] | <mig5> | is the webserver a remote web server from aegir? |
| [18:10:40] | <mig5> | e.g not the aegir box itself |
| [18:10:59] | <wroxbox> | yes. |
| [18:11:08] | <mig5> | and does it have the mysql client binary installed |
| [18:11:29] | <wroxbox> | I assume it has, cause basic drupal runs there without aegir :) |
| [18:11:50] | <mig5> | the mysql binary isn't the same as the php mysql library |
| [18:12:47] | <mig5> | can't remember where this mysql command is run from, but probably best to ensure /usr/bin/mysql is present on aegir, web and db servers |
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| [18:13:16] | <wroxbox> | right. web1.server did not have the client. only php-mysql |
| [18:14:13] | <wroxbox> | installed. I'll test. |
| [18:15:42] | <wroxbox> | Wohooo. Mig5++ |
| [18:17:13] | <wroxbox> | Ok. Next is to setup PACK clustering. |
| [18:18:17] | <realityloop> | mig5: don't suppose you have a list of minimal packages for debian handy? |
| [18:19:23] | <mig5> | minimal packages for what? aegir? |
| [18:19:26] | <mig5> | should be just per the install docs |
| [18:19:47] | <mig5> | http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual#Install_system_requi... |
| [18:19:48] | <realityloop> | I'm trying to clean up a VPS that has a bunch of unnneded stuff.. |
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| [18:20:33] | <mig5> | like what? |
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| [18:24:39] | <realityloop> | cups |
| [18:25:55] | <realityloop> | apache2 bind samba |
| [18:26:19] | <realityloop> | anyway.. gotta go speand time with Jane.. later |
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| [18:39:41] | <wroxbox> | Just to be sure. Creating PACK for clustering. Can the Pack name be the same as its first master server? ie. having first apache server as web1.domain.com and naming the pack as the same? |
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| [20:39:53] | <TribalMan> | if I install Aegir on a debian box that has been used to host sites without any cpanel or equivalent, just bind and virtual hosts… would Aegir intefere with the existing sites which are production sites |
| [20:46:32] | <wroxbox> | TribalMan: aegir can be installed after. You just need to link aegir.conf as symbolic link from /etc/apaches/conf.d/aegir.conf to /var/aegir/config/apache.conf .. |
| [20:47:30] | <TribalMan> | wroxbox: awesome, so then I can migrate the sites over to eagir pretty easily thereafter? |
| [20:48:12] | <wroxbox> | easily. dunno. But doable :) |
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| [22:53:09] | <dob_> | how can i delete old certificates from aegir gui? |
| [22:53:17] | <dob_> | I have some null values in my ssl configuration |
| [23:03:49] | <dob_> | where are the certificate entries stored? |
| [23:07:08] | <dob_> | hello? |
| [23:23:38] | <darthsteven> | dob_: hello! |
| [23:23:57] | <darthsteven> | sorry about the null entries, there is a known bug in Aegir 1.7 that causes this |
| [23:25:00] | <darthsteven> | They are stored in the 'hosting_ssl_cert' table |
| [23:28:00] | <dob_> | I removed all certificate entries. Is it possible to create ssl sites in aegir 1.7? |
| [23:28:02] | <dob_> | How? |
| [23:28:23] | <dob_> | It's not possible for me to create any ssl site |
| [23:29:50] | <dob_> | existing certificates are also not used |
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| [05:31:30] | <LunkRat> | darthsteven: you pinged me last night but I was away. I am still looking for insights into my SSL woes, if you care to help |
| [05:31:52] | <darthsteven> | LunkRat: yeah, really sorry I broke SSL in 1.7 |
| [05:32:01] | <LunkRat> | lol hah |
| [05:32:05] | <darthsteven> | it's fixed in 1.8 |
| [05:32:19] | <darthsteven> | which will get released on Tuesday/Wednesday next week |
| [05:32:32] | <darthsteven> | until then, you can apply a couple of patches to get it working again: |
| [05:33:06] | <darthsteven> | http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/patch/1e4b8d8c2227aa347c528... |
| [05:33:18] | <darthsteven> | in fact, just that patch will suffice |
| [05:33:40] | <darthsteven> | then, you'll want to clean up the hosting_ssl_key table |
| [05:33:46] | <darthsteven> | to remove the null entries |
| [05:33:49] | <darthsteven> | :( |
| [05:33:52] | <darthsteven> | sorry! |
| [05:34:44] | <LunkRat> | darthsteven: no need to apologize, I am just getting going here with 1.7 - it's nice to know that the two big pains I had were things that you broke in 1.7 ;) |
| [05:34:55] | <darthsteven> | indeed |
| [05:34:57] | <darthsteven> | :( |
| [05:35:04] | <darthsteven> | not my finest hour |
| [05:35:10] | <darthsteven> | and we try not to break things |
| [05:35:15] | <darthsteven> | but sometimes it happens |
| [05:35:17] | <LunkRat> | dude go easy on yourself, you do great work |
| [05:35:45] | <LunkRat> | if you want to make it up to me, just hold my hand as I come at you with ?'s applying the patches ... |
| [05:38:45] | <LunkRat> | darthsteven: ok, now I see this: http://drupal.org/node/1493286 and this: http://drupal.org/node/1498102 are issues that speak to my problems. I'll have a go at the patches. Thank you for taking the time to respond! |
| [05:38:46] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1493286 => SSL certificates not being created => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, fixed, 6 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
| [05:38:46] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1498102 => Dates and times are incorrect on freshly created tasks => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, fixed, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [05:39:46] | <darthsteven> | LunkRat: yeah, I was just trying to clean up the logs and remove a few notices, but I actually stopped the notices by removing functionality, not great |
| [05:40:33] | <LunkRat> | darthsteven: hah, that's one way to shut up the logs! |
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| [07:03:53] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: hi, I have a question about the debian package for aegir |
| [07:04:33] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: it appears to fail if it can't change permissions for /var/aegir |
| [07:04:53] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: even if /var/aegir is already owned by aegir:aegir |
| [07:05:18] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: is there a way around that? |
| [07:05:59] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: since, in my use-case, /var/aegir is mounted via NFS, and ownership cannot be changed (afaict) |
| [07:05:59] | <LunkRat> | ergonlogic: I ran into that. I found that it worked when I didn't have an aegir user at all before running the package |
| [07:06:26] | <ergonlogic> | LunkRat: I need one in my case though |
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| [07:06:54] | <ergonlogic> | LunkRat: since I need the uid/gid to match the user on another system |
| [07:06:55] | <LunkRat> | ergonlogic: just offering clues |
| [07:07:04] | <ergonlogic> | LunkRat: yep, and I appreciate it :) |
| [07:07:58] | <ergonlogic> | I figure that the .deb package can check ownership before trying to change it |
| [07:08:11] | <ergonlogic> | and that should fix it |
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| [07:09:19] | <ergonlogic> | but, of course, there might be other subtleties |
| [07:09:25] | <ergonlogic> | there usually are... |
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| [10:29:54] | <cmcintosh> | darthsteven, you around |
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