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| [15:56:17] | <antillas21> | Hi... what is the magic recipe to take a site out of aegir and into a standalone drupal install? |
| [15:56:44] | <antillas21> | I have been trying with no luck for two days now... and I'm really growing frustrated |
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| [23:03:41] | <stieglitz> | good morning. I think I made a mistake by doing drush self-update and now my platforms/sites won't verify. Can anyone tell me how to revert? |
| [23:09:17] | <stieglitz> | or should aegir be compatible with drush 5.1? |
| [23:13:28] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: Aegir doesn't support Drush 5 yet |
| [23:13:46] | <stieglitz> | ok thats what i thought |
| [23:14:02] | <stieglitz> | any tips on reverting back? |
| [23:15:01] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: you could try 'drush dl drush-4.5' I suppose |
| [23:16:37] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: it probably depend on how you installed it in the first place |
| [23:16:59] | <stieglitz> | ok thanks I'll give that a shot. aegir/drush work so well I thought there might be a simple drush command :-/ |
| [23:18:05] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: well, reverting drush versions isn't something you'd normally have to do, right? ;) |
| [23:18:15] | <stieglitz> | Problem is I can't remember now how I installed drush. But that's my problem ha |
| [23:18:26] | <stieglitz> | right :-) |
| [23:19:03] | <stieglitz> | was looking for that drush fix -R ;-) |
| [23:19:18] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: if it was via the .deb, then 'aptitude reinstall drush' would probably do it |
| [23:19:53] | <stieglitz> | thank you I'll give that a shot |
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| [00:21:27] | <Erobaka> | im using aegir and i have one platform (drupal 7.12) containing 5 sites. most of the modules used by the 5 sites are s |
| [00:21:43] | <Erobaka> | (sorry >_<) |
| [00:22:49] | <Erobaka> | im using aegir and i have one platform (drupal 7.12) containing 5 sites. most of the modules used by the 5 sites are in the sites/all dir. what is the best, safe way to update those modules ? do i have to run a backup on each sites before updating a module ? |
| [00:23:33] | <Erobaka> | is there a way to update those modules through Aegir interface ? |
| [00:24:01] | <wamilton> | you could update the platform |
| [00:24:25] | <wamilton> | or, alternatively, create a new platform from the updated modules, and migrate the sites to that platform |
| [00:24:45] | <wamilton> | then you get upgrade hooks for free, and the migrate reverts itself if it doesn't work out |
| [00:26:14] | <Erobaka> | ok thank you |
| [00:26:54] | <Erobaka> | so i create a new platform, i put the last modules version in sites/all, and then i migrate each sites to the new platform. |
| [00:27:20] | <wamilton> | yeah, there's a batch migrate functionality too, iirc |
| [00:29:00] | <Erobaka> | this will automatically update the databases of the 5 sites with the new modules tables etc ? |
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| [00:29:52] | <wamilton> | provided the modules in question implement their schema updates correctly, yes |
| [00:30:20] | <Erobaka> | hm ok thank you, ill try this |
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| [00:55:48] | <webadpro|> | hello all |
| [00:56:13] | <webadpro|> | Can aegir clone a site with already a couple of Nodes in place etc? |
| [00:57:10] | <shrop> | yes. |
| [00:57:31] | <webadpro|> | I was thinking about making a cloning site for Drupal. |
| [00:57:47] | <webadpro|> | But maybe this module could do exactly this. |
| [00:57:51] | <shrop> | I use cloning to copy an live site and test stuff on it.. |
| [00:58:21] | <webadpro|> | but can i have 1 template site, and clone that site as many time as i wish for different domain |
| [00:58:55] | <webadpro|> | im looking for a way to have everything in place, and simply clone and change some little things, but by default everything would be up and running. |
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| [01:04:00] | <webadpro|> | how does Aegir manage the salt keys? |
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| [01:06:29] | <wamilton> | webadpro|: what salt keys? |
| [01:06:37] | <webadpro|> | from Drupal |
| [01:06:51] | <webadpro|> | well does Aegir work with d7? |
| [01:06:56] | <wamilton> | yes |
| [01:06:58] | <webadpro|> | ok. |
| [01:07:11] | <webadpro|> | Well in d7, we have salt keys in settings.php and in DB |
| [01:07:18] | <webadpro|> | Just wondering how does aegir manage them |
| [01:08:00] | <wamilton> | it keeps them constant, iirc |
| [01:08:53] | <webadpro|> | but does it changes it for a new site? |
| [01:09:25] | <wamilton> | hm. let me check. |
| [01:09:56] | <webadpro|> | because i have my own module in place, for cloning a site, but I wasnt aware of aegir. |
| [01:10:16] | <webadpro|> | But i'm wondering if i simply change te salts will it break the new site. |
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| [01:11:26] | <webadpro|> | Not sure if it is dangerous to have multiple sites with the same salt though |
| [01:13:57] | <wamilton> | you're talking about this bit of settings.php: * Salt for one-time login links and cancel links, form tokens, etc. |
| [01:14:00] | <wamilton> | ? |
| [01:14:19] | <webadpro|> | right + the druapal_private_key in DB |
| [01:14:21] | <wamilton> | $drupal_hash_salt ? |
| [01:14:25] | <webadpro|> | right |
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| [01:18:37] | <wamilton> | well, naturally setting those to things that didn't encrypt what is in the db will break things... but if you're creating new sites, it shouldn't matter |
| [01:18:54] | <wamilton> | there's a notion of local.settings.php |
| [01:19:09] | <webadpro|> | Right, thats my issue. |
| [01:19:11] | <wamilton> | which gives you per-site settings |
| [01:19:46] | <wamilton> | right, but when you create a new site with Aegir, it's going to do the install from scratch and include your local.settings.php when it does so |
| [01:19:58] | <wamilton> | ... I think |
| [01:20:01] | <webadpro|> | Because, i clone a premade site. So copy files & db of template site. but Im scared of changing the salts. |
| [01:20:45] | <webadpro|> | Oh, I see. well, thats the best way to do it. if the drupal installation is being executed, then for sure the salts are being changed. |
| [01:21:39] | <wamilton> | yeah, there's still a chicken-and-egg issue though: I don't know where you supply your local.settings.php for a site that does not yet exist |
| [01:21:56] | <webadpro|> | im not using aegir just yet. |
| [01:22:02] | <webadpro|> | Its a cusom module of my own |
| [01:22:06] | <webadpro|> | custom* |
| [01:23:50] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: you can't at the moment :( |
| [01:23:50] | <hefring> | darthsteven: 21 hours 10 min ago <ergonlogic> tell darthsteven Would you have any objection to me pointing to the Jenkins test scripts (http://drupal.org/sandbox/darthsteven/1286014) somewhere in the Developer docs in the handbook? |
| [01:24:23] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: so the idea is to do it makefile style? |
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| [01:24:30] | <darthsteven> | hefring tell ergonlogic: no, please link to the Jenkins scripts sandbox as much as you want |
| [01:24:30] | <hefring> | darthsteven: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around. |
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| [01:25:23] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: I'm not sure we've really considered the possibility, maybe we should look for a local.settings.php in the install profile or something |
| [01:26:17] | <wamilton> | webadpro|: also, it looks like the salt is just for generating on the fly hash strings for form protection, so it may be that there are no consequences of changing it unless there is literally a form being submitted right then |
| [01:26:45] | <wamilton> | webadpro|: same with drupal_private_key |
| [01:27:04] | <wamilton> | also, if you want to see some unsecured sites, just google drupal_private_key |
| [01:27:16] | <wamilton> | I got like 5 results that are the path to edit it with devel |
| [01:27:23] | <webadpro|> | wamilton: Thats what i read also, but i was maybe thinking that the users password were being hashed with those salts, so changing them would mean the users wouldnt be able to register :s |
| [01:28:07] | <shrop> | wamilton: wow.. hmm |
| [01:28:53] | <webadpro|> | lol, thats crazy i got a list of 40+ sites |
| [01:28:54] | <webadpro|> | lol |
| [01:29:06] | <wamilton> | yeah, I mentioned it to my co-worker just now too, and we were like 'wow, people should be warned about this' but then we were like 'oh, wait, devel DOES warn them' |
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| [01:29:31] | <webadpro|> | http://dev01.prospect.org/devel/variable/edit/drupal_private_key |
| [01:29:32] | <webadpro|> | lol |
| [01:29:39] | <wamilton> | webadpro|: just looking through the user hashing, it looks like they have nothing to do with each other |
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| [01:30:12] | <wamilton> | you could always just try modifying those yourself on a given site and see if you can still log in |
| [01:30:24] | <webadpro|> | wamilton, then maybe ill change those on the fly.. actually I can simply delete the private_key in the DB, because if its not found, its been created on the fly. |
| [01:30:44] | <webadpro|> | wamilton: Yeah thats what i have just done, and it still worked :s |
| [01:31:08] | <webadpro|> | the only thing that bugs, me is, if contrib module was referencing to it. |
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| [02:05:08] | <ouelmart> | Bonjour chris, j'espere que tu as passé un bon long week-end :) |
| [02:05:08] | <ouelmart> | bien sur j'ai une question :) |
| [02:05:09] | <ouelmart> | dans la vue "casetracker_cases" j'ai la liste de tout les taches, je veux le ordoner correctement (j'ai un champ cck pour cela) mais grouper par projet |
| [02:05:09] | <ouelmart> | i.e. des actions on des tache ordonancer je veux que la vue reflete cette etat de fait, mais en les groupants par actions |
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| [02:14:46] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: ok, cool |
| [02:14:46] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: 50 min 16 sec ago <darthsteven> tell ergonlogic: no, please link to the Jenkins scripts sandbox as much as you want |
| [02:15:14] | <ergonlogic> | ouelmart: en privé? |
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| [03:20:33] | <redndahead> | I am currently migrating my sites from my old platform to my new platform. Once that is complete is there any practical reason to keep the old platform? |
| [03:20:57] | <webadpro|> | redndahead: best bet, keep a back up locally. |
| [03:21:20] | <webadpro|> | redndahead: keep a db backup and file backup, then you can remote the old plateform |
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| [03:21:59] | <redndahead> | webadpro|: right I have backups that run for them. Also each platform is a version controlled installation profile |
| [03:22:46] | <redndahead> | I was just thinking that I can't really migrate a site back to the old platform so not sure what it would be used for. |
| [03:23:17] | <webadpro|> | not sure sorry |
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| [04:22:17] | <ergonlogic> | redndahead: assuming the sites work properly on the new platform, there's probably not much reason to keep an older one around |
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| [04:49:19] | <redndahead> | ergonlogic: thank you |
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| [08:11:37] | <mikl> | I'm trying to upgrade to 1.7, but I'm getting "The drush command 'hostmaster-migrate [..]' could not be found." both when using the upgrade.sh script and the manual instructions |
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| [08:20:40] | <cweagans> | anarcat: hi, can we chat a sec about the nginx support in the debian package? |
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| [08:24:11] | <anarcat> | cweagans: sure, but really, you want to talk with omega8cc, who's already working on this |
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| [09:02:58] | <cweagans> | omega8cc: anarcat: The more I look at it, the more I think we ought to do separate pacakges, like aegir-apache and aegir-nginx, with "aegir" defaulting to depending on aegir-apache. |
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| [09:07:47] | * cweagans is going to class. I'll comment on the issue and bbl. |
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| [09:38:30] | <tommyent> | I'm trying to install Aegir for the first time on Debain Squeeze and I run into ine 1350: netcat: command not found so I apt-get install netcat and get E: Unable to locate package netcat any ideas what's wrong ? |
| [09:39:58] | <mig5> | the package is 'nc' for netcat in debian... that said, there's nothing in Aegir that tries to execute netcat so not sure what that is coming from.. |
| [09:40:48] | <tommyent> | Oh |
| [09:43:00] | <tommyent> | well I ran apt-get update then apt-get install netcat and finally bash BARRACUDA.sh.txt and it appears to be running fine now |
| [09:45:04] | <tommyent> | mig5: thanks though |
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| [09:55:25] | <omega8cc> | tommyent: yeah, we use netcat in BOA to test connections, but it should be available in every minimal OS vps |
| [09:59:18] | <omega8cc> | oh, we do install netcat at the beginning and its package name is netcat, not nc |
