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| [10:47:28] | <Blegh> | As a point of interest, what sort of state is 6.x-2.x in? where can I find out more about it part from the API docs? |
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| [11:51:52] | <mig5> | anarcat: ping |
| [11:52:00] | <anarcat> | mig5: pong |
| [11:52:16] | <mig5> | anarcat: http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/D%20aegir%206.x-2.x%20deb%20install/17/ |
| [11:52:22] | <mig5> | the aegir 2.x deb install task |
| [11:52:37] | <mig5> | i added 'apt-get -y install drush' to the fab script as it was doing that catch22 deb dependency issue previously |
| [11:52:53] | <mig5> | but now it appears that 'aegir-hostmaster : Depends: drush-make but it is not installed' |
| [11:53:03] | <mig5> | do we actually depend on the deb package for drush-make now? |
| [11:53:14] | <anarcat> | yes we do |
| [11:53:19] | <mig5> | and if so, do we need to update docs, or is this just a 2.x thing, and i should also apt-get install drush-make first too |
| [11:53:21] | <anarcat> | it should be in our archive |
| [11:53:22] | <mig5> | ah ok |
| [11:53:38] | <mig5> | it probably is, but i guess needs to be installed first like drush |
| [11:53:43] | <mig5> | although hmm, debian ought to have picked it up eh |
| [11:53:49] | <anarcat> | yep |
| [11:53:54] | <mig5> | it's doing a 'dpkg -i' install I think |
| [11:53:56] | <anarcat> | i think the problem here is this: [209-20-91-171.static.cloud-ips.com] out: aegir-cluster-slave : Depends: nfs-client |
| [11:53:58] | <mig5> | maybe not working the way apt would |
| [11:54:06] | <anarcat> | it's being clever: dpkg -i ~/aegir*.deb || apt-get install |
| [11:54:14] | <mig5> | oh ok |
| [11:54:16] | <anarcat> | couldn't find a better way in a short notice |
| [11:54:41] | <mig5> | it's nfs-common isn't it? not nfs-client |
| [11:55:11] | <anarcat> | well i don't know |
| [11:55:18] | <mig5> | reason i saw all this is that i was working on fixing the rackspace problems that were breaking all our tests... i had to increase a 'sleep' period as rackspace takes ages to build from the image these days |
| [11:55:20] | <anarcat> | this worked for me |
| [11:55:29] | <mig5> | so now we are back to actualyl viewing *real* errors, which is better, I guess :) |
| [11:55:37] | <anarcat> | yeah that's cool :) |
| [11:55:40] | <anarcat> | is 1.x broken too? |
| [11:55:46] | <anarcat> | 'cause it also has the cluster thing |
| [11:56:15] | <mig5> | is that this one? http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/D%20aegir%20apt%20install/ |
| [11:56:20] | <mig5> | it doesn't specifically say 1.x |
| [11:56:34] | <mig5> | it hasn't worked since the rackspace fail.. i'll kick it off and see what it does |
| [11:56:51] | <mig5> | hmm, requires build parameters.. i really have lost track of how this stuff works.. |
| [11:56:56] | <mig5> | Which distribution to apt-get install Aegir packages from |
| [11:57:01] | <mig5> | unstable/testing/stable |
| [11:58:55] | <anarcat> | yeeep |
| [11:59:00] | <anarcat> | there are multiple things going on here |
| [11:59:13] | <anarcat> | i changed the way the jobs work significantly |
| [11:59:42] | <anarcat> | hum |
| [12:00:06] | <anarcat> | anyuways |
| [12:00:14] | <anarcat> | some tasks install .debs using scp + dpkg -i |
| [12:00:19] | <anarcat> | others install from the apt repository |
| [12:00:23] | <anarcat> | i don't remember which is with |
| [12:00:28] | <anarcat> | s/with/which |
| [12:00:39] | <anarcat> | i think the ones that mention "apt" in the task name use apt-get |
| [12:00:48] | <anarcat> | the ones that mention "deb" in the task name use dpkg |
| [12:00:52] | <anarcat> | i need to go |
| [12:00:54] | <mig5> | i miss the old install.sh.txt ;P |
| [12:00:56] | <mig5> | ok thanks |
| [12:01:10] | <anarcat> | oh, and i think that the apt install never worked |
| [12:01:27] | <anarcat> | altho thats not true |
| [12:01:41] | <anarcat> | but D aegir 6.x-2.x deb install certainly never worked |
| [12:01:51] | <anarcat> | and i think that's the one i tried to do the scp + dpkg thing |
| [12:01:54] | <anarcat> | so it's normal if it fails |
| [12:02:05] | <mig5> | that was coz it couldn't work out grabbing drush first it seems |
| [12:03:01] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [12:03:05] | <anarcat> | see ya and good luck |
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| [12:42:29] | <stieglitz> | ergonlogic: Got a se?. I am at the point when I need to select the Linux image to upgrade to squeeze. Should I select the vserver? |
| [12:47:54] | <stieglitz> | So anyway anyone know which linux image would be best to use for aegir? My choices are amd64, vserver, openvz, and xen. I'm pretty much a newb still. |
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| [13:18:28] | <stieglitz> | Guess I am going with the vserver |
| [13:24:38] | <stieglitz> | After reading on I probably should have gone with xen as it looks like vserver will be deprecated |
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| [20:50:15] | <hefring> | community => All tasks now executed on Thu, 01/01/1970 - 00:00 => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/all-tasks-now-executed-thu-010... |
| [20:50:15] | <hefring> | community => Cloning works, but migrate doesn't => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/cloning-works-migrate-doesnt |
| [21:01:31] | <mig5> | alright! i actually made it, almost on time, to the second scrum of the week |
| [21:01:39] | <mig5> | i missed the first few weeks, and i'm meant to be the one hosting it. epic |
| [21:01:50] | <mig5> | darthsteven: anarcat: ergonlogic: if you're around |
| [21:02:04] | <darthsteven> | mig5: hello! |
| [21:02:37] | <mig5> | i updated the python-cloudfiles installation on the jenkins server, and raised a sleep timeout limit that was causing all our jenkins builds to fail, as rackspace takes ages to build from our images these days sadly |
| [21:02:55] | <darthsteven> | cool |
| [21:03:07] | <darthsteven> | not cool about rackspace though |
| [21:03:11] | <mig5> | i then suckered myself into working more on what was meant to be a trivial patch, and now has left me bewildered and confused http://drupal.org/node/1503824 |
| [21:03:12] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1503824 => hosting_site_count() ignores disabled sites => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, needs work, 5 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [21:03:16] | <mig5> | like the last 20 or so patches over the last 2 years |
| [21:03:24] | <mig5> | that's about it from me! |
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| [21:03:54] | <mig5> | some of our builds in jenkins are still broken, this seems to be related to installing deb files via dpkg, which i haven't figured out yet |
| [21:04:26] | <mig5> | weird requirements like nfs-common, and the drush-make deb, etc.. and my attempt to fix it saw that restarting portmap or something failed. haven't had time to look at. |
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| [21:06:05] | <darthsteven> | sorry if I've added to your confusion in that issue |
| [21:06:25] | <mig5> | nah it's not you. any developer would be fine with it |
| [21:06:43] | <mig5> | iam just not made of the same stuff and never have been. i should find something i'm good at and stick with it :) |
| [21:06:54] | <mig5> | don't have a coder brain |
| [21:07:50] | <darthsteven> | okay, well the efforts are appreciated |
| [21:07:54] | <darthsteven> | shall I go next? |
| [21:08:06] | <mig5> | please! |
| [21:08:17] | <darthsteven> | well, I've looked at a couple of issues in the queue |
| [21:08:52] | <darthsteven> | notably: 1185690 |
| [21:09:10] | <darthsteven> | which is running through jenkins now |
| [21:09:13] | <darthsteven> | a minor fix |
| [21:09:34] | <darthsteven> | We'll release 1.8 next week |
| [21:09:38] | <darthsteven> | I think |
| [21:09:42] | <darthsteven> | that's it from me |
| [21:09:59] | <mig5> | nice, thanks |
| [21:11:07] | <mig5> | real shame that we lost data from the community site |
| [21:11:14] | <mig5> | niccolo wrote something interesting in response to http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/wheres-aegir-drupalcon-denver |
| [21:11:36] | <mig5> | about how it feels like the project is sort of losing its spark, so to speak, in the wake of other beasts like pantheon |
| [21:11:45] | <mig5> | i've been wondering about that and how we can get that spark back |
| [21:12:02] | <darthsteven> | indeed |
| [21:12:13] | <mig5> | it's probably in the eye of the beholder, of course.. some might feel it's very new and exciting and others less so |
| [21:12:33] | <mig5> | but i don't think we ever fully recovered from the developmentseed departure |
| [21:12:40] | <darthsteven> | yup |
| [21:13:41] | <mig5> | I haven't got much to suggest, given I myself struggle with immense motivation issues. ho, hum |
| [21:13:55] | <darthsteven> | I'm now working at least a day week, at work, on Aegir |
| [21:14:00] | <mig5> | that's unreal :) |
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| [21:14:26] | <mig5> | i wanted to ask how you currently do your deployments etc |
| [21:14:31] | <darthsteven> | so hoping to get some of the longer standing bugs sorted out |
| [21:15:19] | <darthsteven> | and some of the more complicated bugs that would take a few hours to set up multiple servers etc. |
| [21:16:47] | <darthsteven> | deployments are done using people clicking around in Aegir's UI, and make files |
| [21:16:53] | <darthsteven> | not using Jenkins or something |
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| [21:17:35] | <mig5> | that's cool. how do you define a new 'release', e.g do you tag the makefile, does the makefile live in its own repo? |
| [21:17:46] | <darthsteven> | well |
| [21:17:48] | <mig5> | or you just update the makefile and then make a new platform and provide the URL |
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| [21:18:26] | <darthsteven> | so we have git repos that contain install profiles + makefile for contrib stuff |
| [21:18:31] | <darthsteven> | one per project |
| [21:18:33] | <darthsteven> | then |
| [21:18:53] | <darthsteven> | we have 'stub' makefiles, for core + project |
| [21:19:07] | <darthsteven> | these are kept in Dropbox for our internal servers |
| [21:19:24] | <darthsteven> | so we can change the tag that is specified in there locally |
| [21:19:32] | <darthsteven> | and it's gets synced to the Aegir master |
| [21:19:38] | <darthsteven> | which we can then build from |
| [21:20:01] | <mig5> | cool - so every site has its own install profile? just a basic profiler thing? |
| [21:20:09] | <darthsteven> | but we also have some other servers where we have the make files in /var/aegir/makes/ |
| [21:20:13] | <darthsteven> | and we edit manually there |
| [21:20:22] | <darthsteven> | each site has its own profile |
| [21:20:46] | <mig5> | cool. nice to hear that it works :) |
| [21:21:03] | <darthsteven> | the only sticking point is getting the make file to the aegir server |
| [21:21:13] | <darthsteven> | because we don't want it publicly avaiable |
| [21:21:21] | <darthsteven> | *available |
| [21:21:28] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [21:21:40] | <mig5> | i'd stick them in private github/bitbucket.org repos and give the aegir user access via an SSH key :) |
| [21:23:16] | <darthsteven> | ideally they'd just be in the git repos we have at the moment |
| [21:23:31] | <mig5> | anyways - we are probably done for scrum - I see omega8cc has logged in, did you have anything to add for scrum no.2 ? |
| [21:23:41] | <darthsteven> | I'm planning to look at that at some point soon, allow you to specify more locations make files |
| [21:23:52] | <omega8cc> | oh, I missed the scrum, sorry! |
| [21:24:00] | <darthsteven> | mig5: yeah…I think the scrum probably ended a while ago |
| [21:24:03] | <darthsteven> | :) |
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| [21:24:26] | <omega8cc> | nothing new since Monday anyway from me :) |
| [21:24:30] | <mig5> | cool :) |
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| [21:35:18] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: maybe there is more like that one, we forgot to commit also in 6.x-2.x? http://drupal.org/node/1498102#comment-5860784 |
| [21:35:19] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1498102 => Dates and times are incorrect on freshly created tasks => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (fixed), 2 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [21:35:56] | <omega8cc> | I mean, the original commit, not just the fix from this issue |
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| [21:55:24] | <darthsteven> | Yeah…so I think that at some point I'll need to walk the 6.x-1.x branch and work out what hasn't been merged in |
| [21:55:35] | <darthsteven> | as I suspect it might be a few things |
| [21:55:38] | <omega8cc> | probably |
| [21:56:29] | <omega8cc> | I will run a diff to see the difference |
| [21:57:25] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell ergonlogic: I just recovered your comment - http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk#comment... |
| [21:57:25] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around. |
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| [22:07:53] | <omega8cc> | mig5: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/wheres-aegir-drupalcon-denver#... |
| [22:09:15] | <omega8cc> | recovered from my Yojimbo archive |
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| [22:35:04] | <ergonlogic> | omega8cc: thanks! |
| [22:35:04] | <hefring> | ergonlogic: 37 min 39 sec ago <omega8cc> tell ergonlogic: I just recovered your comment - http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-5-and-other-junk#comment... |
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| [22:37:05] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: I found only one, probably because I didn't receive any e-mails before writing my own comments, not sure |
| [22:37:28] | <ergonlogic> | omega8cc: I don;t recall if I'd made any more, so it's fine :) |
| [22:39:07] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: ok, I also recovered comment written by niccolo |
| [22:39:25] | <omega8cc> | this time from my Yojimbo archive |
| [22:40:04] | <omega8cc> | I mean http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/wheres-aegir-drupalcon-denver#... |
| [22:41:30] | <ergonlogic> | omega8cc: yeah, that was a good one to recover, thanks |
| [22:41:43] | <ergonlogic> | it was brought up in the scrum this AM, I believe |
| [22:42:18] | <omega8cc> | yes, that is how I realized it was lost, but I had a copy :) |
| [22:43:11] | <omega8cc> | I'm paranoid about backups and it helps sometimes :) |
| [22:44:21] | <omega8cc> | just running a fresh crawl with wget -b -m -k -p -E --random-wait --user-agent=iCab -erobots=off --tries=5 --exclude-directories=calendar,users,user --domains=www.community.aegirproject.org,community.aegirproject.org http://community.aegirproject.org/ |
| [22:47:10] | <Blegh> | It seems I am unable to access that last comment, we (I mean, barely we) are very interested in Aegir as it suits our needs very well as we want to start using it to provide SaaS sites, rather deploying a single site to each user rather than trying to reach that level of containment via Organic Groups and a ton of permissions |
| [22:49:57] | <Blegh> | I think Aegir needs to get more credit for what it is worth, as Pantheon or Dev Cloud are largely unsuitable for this and way to costly |
| [22:51:57] | <Blegh> | I'm just wondering if we are missing something, is it that Drupal is completely unsuitable for small scale SaaS in this manner? or is it that there just aren't many poeople wanting to do it? |
| [23:04:51] | <omega8cc> | Blegh: many people are using Aegir for their own needs, not just for a few sites, but they don't make a buzz of it, (even we, omega8.cc, doing Aegir based hosting only), hence the lack of marketing around Aegir - also because there is no big fish with VC involved, but I consider it our strength |
| [23:06:11] | <omega8cc> | Blegh: as for the comment on c.a.o, probably cache, try to log in |
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| [23:08:04] | <Blegh> | I've yet to create an account, but it seems fine now. |
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| [23:14:53] | <Blegh> | omega8cc: It almost seems that Aegir is a secret noone talks about, I mean I knew about it a year and a bit ago, but yeah, there is no hubbub about it at all. But as far is it's usefulness goes one can launch a testing product for the price of a medium VPS not counting development time, which actually makes it feasible (Or so we think) for a small, non-funded company to even think about entering that arena |
| [23:17:38] | <Blegh> | I'm a little concerned about the state of Aegir, but in my opinion one has no room to complain unless one is contributing, which is still a way off for us |
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| [23:20:17] | <omega8cc> | Blegh: Aegir devs are people using it, it has a long history, loyal community and is developed in the true open source spirit, so I think the best things are still ahead of us |
| [23:20:25] | <omega8cc> | Blegh: yeah, we are kinda underground folks and we are proud of it ;) |
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| [23:23:30] | <omega8cc> | I'm so happy we decided to skip that drupal-vista d7 mess |
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| [23:27:31] | <Blegh> | I don't really agree on D7 being a mess, but that could be because I was late to get to Drupal, and fell in love with everything being fieldable, compound fieldable field bundles are solving many problems we would otherwise be facing |
| [23:28:11] | <omega8cc> | yeah, that may explain why you don't hate this crap |
| [23:28:23] | <omega8cc> | as Vertice explained: https://twitter.com/#!/AdrianRossouw/status/178040630906327040 |
| [23:29:05] | <Blegh> | Well, in terms of development time, but in terms of performance, APC is a must as is a large innodb buffer, if you are using innodb |
| [23:29:42] | <Blegh> | Hahaha, yeah |
| [23:29:55] | <omega8cc> | yeah, you can always try to hide problems, but they are just too serious in d7 |
| [23:32:28] | <Blegh> | I'll completely agree with performance being an issue, and I haven't worked on any large sites so I may also be missing just how serious it is |
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| [23:34:11] | <Blegh> | I've just found that the D6 sites which match the feature set of a comparable D7 site are harder to build, maintain and develop on, and the performance gap starts to close quite quickly |
| [23:34:28] | <Blegh> | Not that it ever closes though |
| [23:37:23] | <omega8cc> | sure, d6 is far from being useful and the ideas behind d7 (and now d8) were good, but it has been screwed in d7, despite the progress in things like fields etc |
| [23:37:35] | <omega8cc> | Blegh: the brilliant devseed folks tried to migrate Atrium to d7 and the result was - they quit drupal completely, does it explain something maybe? |
| [23:39:15] | <ergonlogic> | Blegh: Aegir is a great foundation for a small SaaS company |
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| [23:39:53] | <ergonlogic> | Blegh: that's exactly what I'm working on |
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| [23:40:59] | <ergonlogic> | Blegh: what makes you "concerned about the state of Aegir"? |
| [23:42:29] | <omega8cc> | also, 'small' means not interested in creating mostly empty buzz, rather value, so it takes more time and effort but is a better foundation for future progress than VC powered buzz, imo |
| [23:43:06] | <omega8cc> | that is the price |
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| [23:44:16] | <ergonlogic> | omega8cc++ |
| [23:44:51] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic++ :) |
| [23:45:04] | <ergonlogic> | hey, where's hefring? |
| [23:45:14] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: ping |
| [23:45:30] | <omega8cc> | hefring: botsnack |
| [23:45:30] | <hefring> | skynet thanks YOU! |
| [23:45:33] | <omega8cc> | hehe |
| [23:45:45] | <omega8cc> | what a bot |
| [23:46:02] | <ergonlogic> | doesn't like tracking karma, though apparently |
| [23:46:26] | <omega8cc> | hefring: karma ergonlogic? |
| [23:46:26] | <hefring> | ergonlogic has karma of 7. |
| [23:46:32] | <omega8cc> | works |
| [23:47:10] | <ergonlogic> | right, but not assigning new karma? |
| [23:47:25] | <ergonlogic> | meh, anyway |
| [23:47:30] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic++ |
| [23:47:39] | <omega8cc> | hefring: karma ergonlogic? |
| [23:47:39] | <hefring> | ergonlogic has karma of 8. |
| [23:47:44] | <ergonlogic> | oh, heh |
| [23:47:48] | <omega8cc> | :) |
| [23:48:09] | <ergonlogic> | ok, sorry hefring. I shouldn't have doubted you |
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| [00:01:13] | <cmcintosh> | hefring karma cmcintosh? |
| [00:01:13] | <hefring> | cmcintosh has karma of 0. |
| [00:01:15] | <cmcintosh> | :( |
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| [00:13:23] | <usaussie> | when running any task on my aegir, the "executed" time always states "Executed: Wed, 12/31/1969 - 20:00" -- which subsequently makes the 'execution time' something like "Execution time: 42 years 15 weeks" ----- where is aegir pulling the current date/time from? Running "date" on the server returns the correct time, and the front end is configured correctly too. |
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| [00:15:26] | <ergonlogic> | usaussie: it appears to be a bug in 1.7 |
| [00:19:58] | <omega8cc> | usaussie: http://drupal.org/node/1498102#comment-5776424 |
| [00:19:59] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1498102 => Dates and times are incorrect on freshly created tasks => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, patch (to be ported), 4 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
| [00:20:08] | <usaussie> | ahh…that's what im running…so that's probably it. |
| [00:20:14] | <usaussie> | i hope that's not the reason for my other errors. |
| [00:20:59] | <usaussie> | i have a platform that works perfectly well (verifies, deploys new sites)…i have an exact copy of that same platform (same code, same make file/profile etc)….just with a different name….and it verifies, but it won't deploy any new sites. |
| [00:21:02] | <jwester> | lol, yeah, i get the same thing with 42 years |
| [00:21:23] | <usaussie> | im trying to track down root causes….and am guessing the date time thing is ancillary…but still annoying. |
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| [00:24:56] | <jwester> | it is annoying, especially if you are actually interested in knowing how long the task took |
| [00:27:06] | <hefring> | community => Restoring site backups on different Aegir server? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/restoring-site-backups-differe... |
| [00:29:03] | <usaussie> | well yeah if im concerned with it timing out…adn that being my issue. |
| [00:29:23] | <stieglitz> | i am trying to get my aegir installed starting on a new squeeze server. ran drush hostmaster install several time but had to change permissions and ownership on lots of things to keep things progressing. I'm not sure where it went wrong unless I installed things according to contradictory instructions :-/ but now the errors I am getting are : http://pastebin.com/dQcuNdiw |
| [00:33:05] | <stieglitz> | Any ideas why I would get these errors or how to correct? |
| [00:35:55] | <stieglitz> | ahhh nevermind. I had to navigate to /var/aegir and then run the script |
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| [01:11:51] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: good response to niccolo comment, well earned extra karma then ;) |
| [01:12:15] | <ergonlogic> | omega8cc: he he, thanks :) |
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| [01:48:55] | <stieglitz> | so ergonlogic: how does the puppet module work? Do you install it within a normal drupal install and then it creates the hostmaster environment? |
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| [01:56:29] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: nope, it's a Puppet module, and has nothing to do with Drupal modules |
| [01:56:51] | <stieglitz> | ahh ok |
| [01:57:27] | <stieglitz> | Thanks.Thought I had things working to no avail. |
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| [02:08:48] | <stieglitz> | running wget -q http://debian.aegirproject.org/key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - gives me no valid OpenPGP data found. Can anyone tell me what's up? |
| [02:10:48] | <stieglitz> | I must be doing something wrong? The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5ADF93A03376CCF9 |
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| [02:14:22] | <ergonlogic> | stieglitz: try doing it in 2 steps |
| [02:14:48] | <stieglitz> | ok |
| [02:15:07] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: btw, merging the aegir-up commands and framework stuff into drush-vagrant project |
| [02:15:29] | <ergonlogic> | :D |
| [02:18:08] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: COOL! |
| [02:18:59] | <stieglitz> | awesome. so far so good :-) |
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| [02:24:59] | <stieglitz> | damn. same error on usr/bin/dpkg |
| [02:27:37] | <Blegh> | omega8cc: Sorry for the delayed reply, the devseed quit is really, really scary. I would like to know more about that. Small is difficult considering that currently we are having trouble finding work, customers we have dealt with have all come back to us, but they are all 600 miles away, the town we live in has a population of maybe 2000 at most, excluding those below the breadline |
| [02:29:10] | <Blegh> | ergonlogic: Thanks for the reassurance, I was just concerned about the lowerd number of recent commits to 1.x according to ohloh, though that may not be a reason at all tbh aegir is one of the most exciting prohects I've come across in ages |
| [02:30:31] | <ergonlogic> | Blegh: well, the 1.x branch is 'stable', and so for bugfixes only. The action will be taking place in 2.x |
| [02:32:07] | <ergonlogic> | Blegh: also, there was an initiative to migrate to D7, which essentially stalled new feature development in the 6.x branches |
| [02:32:39] | <omega8cc> | oh, we need to fix something in ohloh probably, as it tracks 7.x-2.x branch, which is no longer our head/master, it is 6.x-2.x |
| [02:32:57] | <ergonlogic> | Blegh: but the D7 re-write has been abandoned, in favour of moving to D8 directly |
| [02:33:05] | <ergonlogic> | omega8cc: k, I'll fix it |
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| [02:40:17] | <ergonlogic> | alright, switched ohloh to the 6.x-2.x branches |
| [02:40:45] | <Blegh> | ergonlogic: Ah ok, that makes sense, I can't say I see much benefit for moving hostmaster to 7.x |
| [02:43:27] | <omega8cc> | Blegh: it is good to start from scratch, don't be afraid, we have started omega8.cc with no funding, just $100 out of my personal pocket to make sure it will survive only thanks to our work and not thanks to parent company funding, and after two years of completely organic growth, no marketing and no ads, we are doing really well, sponsor drupal camps etc, and plan to sponsor Aegir development, not just submit patches |
| [02:49:36] | <omega8cc> | this will be a good how-to story, one day, to encourage people to start small and grow patiently, you don't need to be a big fish to survive and succeed, in fact, it is less scary than dealing with VC folks expectations etc, it is not really a fun to be a big fish or depend on VC |
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| [02:51:33] | <Blegh> | omega8cc: That's pretty awesome, it's just really tight cash wise for us right now, but it will pass, and anyway earning potential in this area is around $300 doing bartending or casual labor :P |
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| [02:53:18] | <omega8cc> | lol, the internet is not limited to you local village, after all ;) |
| [02:55:23] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: thanks |
| [02:58:31] | <Blegh> | omega8cc: Completely, our closest customers are 600 miles away |
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| [03:18:51] | <Vertice> | can anyone be as kind as to give me a screenshot of a running aegir site ? |
| [03:18:51] | <hefring> | Vertice: 3 weeks 22 hours ago <omega8cc> tell Vertice: heh - http://twitter.com/AdrianRossouw/status/178040630906327040 |
| [03:20:10] | <Vertice> | i want it for my portfolio |
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| [03:25:21] | <gboudrias> | Vertice: Have you tried google? http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=aegir&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf... |
| [03:26:09] | <Vertice> | i probably uploaded all of those back in the day |
| [03:27:00] | <Vertice> | they all still have 2 sidebars |
| [03:27:05] | <Vertice> | remember that guys ? |
| [03:27:06] | <gboudrias> | Vertice: Yeah I'm looking now, they might be slightly old... |
| [03:27:12] | <ergonlogic> | Vertice: where would you like it sent? |
| [03:27:26] | <Vertice> | dropbox , or adrian@daemon.co.za |
| [03:27:32] | <Vertice> | sorry, not dropbox |
| [03:27:33] | <Vertice> | imgur |
| [03:27:37] | <Vertice> | but whatever is fine |
| [03:27:44] | <Vertice> | i need 500px width to fit into my design |
| [03:27:53] | <ergonlogic> | k |
| [03:29:28] | <Vertice> | see https://img.skitch.com/20120412-cc96f2s1rr1i1jgsqpy43dpd7.jpg |
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| [03:34:29] | <Blegh> | omega8cc++ |
| [03:34:33] | <Blegh> | ergonlogic++ |
| [03:35:02] | <Blegh> | Vertice: are you from SA or just have a .co.za? If I may ask of course |
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| [03:39:08] | <ergonlogic> | Vertice: ok, so browser chome is ok, then? |
| [03:39:14] | <Vertice> | yeah |
| [03:41:51] | <ergonlogic> | Vertice: email |
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| [03:49:50] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: here is the first in the world D8 provisioned site :) https://skitch.com/omega8cc/8cq9y/fullscreen-254 |
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| [03:49:56] | <omega8cc> | hah |
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| [03:52:40] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: here is the first in the world D8 provisioned site :) https://skitch.com/omega8cc/8cq9y/fullscreen-254 |
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| [03:56:08] | <stealthaegir> | I installed a clean ubuntu and installed aegir with drush 4.4 and everything runs well. But when I build a new site, it builds correctly and verfies as well, but trying to go that site always fails. Any idea what I maybe doing wrong or where to look for issues. |
| [03:59:25] | <omega8cc> | stealthaegir: you need drush 4.5 |
| [04:00:02] | <omega8cc> | not sure if that is the source of the problem, but it is cheap to try that first |
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| [04:00:38] | <stealthaegir> | omega8cc I will try that out right away. Thanks. |
| [04:00:47] | <omega8cc> | np |
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| [04:03:41] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: or log in to the demo to grab more or better screenshots: https://demo.aegir.cc/ with demo:omega8cc |
| [04:05:11] | <hefring> | community => Site Verify Fails: Looking for PECL memcached or memcache Extension on Aegir Server => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/site-verify-fails-looking-pecl... |
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| [04:18:07] | <stealthaegir> | omaega8, it worked! |
| [04:18:21] | <stealthaegir> | omega8, it worked. |
| [04:18:29] | <stealthaegir> | *omega8cc |
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| [04:20:45] | <omega8cc> | stealthaegir: :) |
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| [04:31:58] | <Vertice> | omega8cc: thanks! |
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| [04:33:37] | <Vertice> | the colours look .. less severe |
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| [04:36:42] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: I just changed that grey 666 to indigo 369 to annoy mortendk :p |
| [04:40:53] | <Vertice> | man. it's been such a long time since i've seen / used aegir |
| [04:41:12] | <Vertice> | it really is a spectacular beast, isn't it? |
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| [04:44:21] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: it is! |
| [04:44:55] | <Vertice> | how're things ? |
| [04:46:36] | <omega8cc> | very, very nice here, we are growing at the higher rate than Apple ;) and I see you are now full size MapBox folks, which is great! |
| [04:47:55] | <Vertice> | yeah |
| [04:48:00] | <Vertice> | the guyshave been crazy |
| [04:48:06] | <Vertice> | foursquare was a major coup |
| [04:49:04] | <hefring> | community => 2 questions: platform access control (how is the list derived) AND platform migrate => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/2-questions-platform-access-co... |
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| [04:49:24] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: it looked crazy first (the switch to maps only) but now it is clear it was a bingo move |
| [04:49:49] | <Vertice> | yeah |
| [04:49:54] | <Vertice> | found a niche, and then went for it |
| [04:49:59] | <Vertice> | plus, node is loots of fun |
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| [04:50:48] | <omega8cc> | yeah, that helps a lot, for sure, imagine to have to dig in d7 still now, ouch! |
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| [06:01:57] | <wamilton> | should the apache user be primary group www-data or aegir for most of the documentation to be relevant? |
| [06:04:19] | <wamilton> | specifically, I'm wondering about the cache files dumped in temporary:// because drupal is setting them to 600 www-data:www-data, so even though I don't want to move them, cloning/migrating/verifying fails because of rsync permission issues |
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| [06:29:00] | <scientist> | I'm trying to activate SSL on my server but it does not work. I've followed the instructions in the Using SSL page, and it mention that ssl.d directories should be created in config, but they are not. Any idea of what is the problem? |
| [06:41:47] | <wamilton> | when you go to edit the site in aegir, does it say Encryption is enabled or disabled? |
| [06:44:00] | <stieglitz> | I'm a little further than I was and it seems configuration is mostly correct after an automatic install and setting up the hostmaster front end (cant actually log in yet however the provision module did not get installed. For fear of screwing up again would it be appropriate to apt-get install provision as root or should I use drush as the aegir user? |
| [06:44:32] | <scientist> | wamilton: yes it says it's enabled |
| [06:44:44] | <wamilton> | stieglitz: you always use apt-get as root |
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| [06:45:09] | <wamilton> | scientist: is this site supposed to be on a remote server? |
| [06:45:24] | <scientist> | no local |
| [06:45:40] | <stieglitz> | thanks wamilton: what i mean is I need to install provision. Should I install as root or as aegir using drush? |
| [06:46:00] | <wamilton> | scientist: ok, and in /var/aegir/config/apache/ there is no ssl.d? |
| [06:46:18] | <wamilton> | stieglitz: doesn't provision just install itself when you do apt-get install? |
| [06:46:33] | <wamilton> | stieglitz: and when you run drush, always do it as the aegir user |
| [06:46:38] | <scientist> | wamilton: exactly |
| [06:46:41] | <jwester> | yeah, do everything as aegir user |
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| [06:46:46] | <jwester> | learned that the hard way :P |
| [06:46:46] | <stieglitz> | it was supposed to but the automatic install has yet to be automatic for me :-/ |
| [06:47:11] | <wamilton> | stieglitz: that's a bummer, when you say you got a little bit farther, what did you mean then? |
| [06:47:45] | <stieglitz> | ha seems there is plenty of that going around :-) I have re built the server a couple times |
| [06:48:03] | <stieglitz> | once from lenny to squeeze |
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| [06:48:27] | <stieglitz> | I am sure it is me but I think things are about there |
| [06:48:41] | <wamilton> | scientist: when you look at the site at aegirserver.com/hosting/c/[site-name] does it have info about the encryption key on the left-hand side? |
| [06:49:43] | <stieglitz> | now i am getting this message: gethostbyaddr(): Address is not a valid IPv4 or IPv6 address [warning] |
| [06:49:44] | <stieglitz> | provision.inc:64 |
| [06:49:58] | <scientist> | wamilton: Encryption: Required |
| [06:49:58] | <scientist> | Encryption key: |
| [06:49:58] | <scientist> | This site is using the SSL certificate and SSL key located at config/ssl.d//openssl.crt and config/ssl.d//openssl.key. |
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| [06:56:30] | <wamilton> | yeah, so your site name isn't valid, so it tried, but didn't get there |
| [06:56:50] | <wamilton> | there should be a site name between ssl.d/ and /openssl.crt |
| [06:57:49] | <wamilton> | stieglitz: did you get mysql straightened out? |
| [06:58:14] | <stieglitz> | yes mysql seems fine |
| [06:58:47] | <wamilton> | stieglitz: I need to step away for a meeting, sorry |
| [06:59:08] | <stieglitz> | np thx have a good one |
| [07:00:17] | <scientist> | wamilton: When I select "generate a key", I enter a site name, but it is set to null after the verify |
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| [07:08:40] | <scientist> | in the Encryption Key selection menu, in addition to "Generate a new key" I have "null" and "" |
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| [07:19:51] | <omega8cc> | hey folks, ssl is broken in 1.7 - http://drupal.org/node/1493286#comment-5769336 |
| [07:19:52] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1493286 => SSL certificates not being created => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, fixed, 7 comments, 4 IRC mentions |
| [07:21:29] | <omega8cc> | scientist: ^^ |
| [07:21:40] | <cmcintosh> | :( |
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| [07:27:42] | <wroxbox> | Interesting. Apache listening 80, Namebased virtual hosts listen 8080. Aegir creates all those vhosts. Sites works fine. Now adding one vhost with own to /etc/apache2/vhost.d/myvhost.cof .. Reloading apache and apache2ctl -S tells now the last added myvhost is loaded first and None of aegir sites works anymore. There are few issues all ready like http://groups.drupal.org/node/56548 and http://drupal.org/node/743916#co |
| [07:27:43] | <hefring> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/56548 => WSOD on verification page: Cant access settings.php file pr db variables => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [07:27:44] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/743916 => How do I view sites created via Aegir on localhost using MAMP => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (fixed), 8 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [07:27:44] | <wroxbox> | mment-2730122 ... So I think this is issue of vhost loading order or something? |
| [07:29:38] | <wroxbox> | Basically I was getting errors like Notice: Undefined index: db_type in sites/mysite/settings.php on line 3 ... Fix was just removing the self added vhost. |
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| [07:50:04] | <Vertice> | mmm. the community site is disabled |
| [07:50:22] | <anarcat> | yes. it is. |
| [07:50:22] | <jwester> | yeah, just found that as well :( |
| [07:50:30] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1509154#comment-5863756 |
| [07:50:32] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1509154 => Community site broken again => Hostmaster (Aegir), Community site, critical, needs work, 11 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [07:50:32] | <jwester> | time to call it a day! |
| [07:50:35] | <anarcat> | having a lot of fun here. |
| [07:51:31] | <scientist> | omega8cc: thanks |
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| [07:56:16] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: I didn't suppose it will be useful the same day I created it ;) http://cao.aegir.cc/dashboard.html |
| [07:56:42] | <omega8cc> | scientist: np |
| [07:57:57] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: what's that? |
| [07:58:06] | <omega8cc> | a static copy |
| [07:58:09] | <anarcat> | neat |
| [07:58:14] | <jwester> | yeah, that is handy |
| [07:58:21] | <anarcat> | did you use the drush fossilize command? ;) |
| [07:58:29] | <anarcat> | i'm almost done restoring the site |
| [07:58:32] | <omega8cc> | hehe, simple wget |
| [08:00:07] | <anarcat> | we need that command! ;) |
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| [08:02:15] | <anarcat> | loading the final dump now, site should be back shortly |
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| [08:02:56] | <anarcat> | oh for the love of lisp |
| [08:02:57] | <anarcat> | PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function ctools_include() in /srv/aegir/platforms/openatrium-1.0-build-2011.09.23-production/profiles/openatrium/modules/contrib/spaces/spaces.module on line 377 |
| [08:03:54] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-04-12#T193407 :) |
| [08:04:57] | <omega8cc> | haha: http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-04-12#T193406 |
| [08:05:55] | <anarcat> | why the hell is spaces freaking out on ctools like that? |
| [08:08:06] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: it is "normal" with ctools, I believe, probably a cache entry with old path |
| [08:08:17] | <omega8cc> | I mean ctools cache |
| [08:08:36] | <omega8cc> | try to drop cache tables |
| [08:08:40] | <anarcat> | yeah well, i get this error when running drush cc all, fun eh? |
| [08:08:44] | <omega8cc> | sorry, truncate |
| [08:08:47] | <anarcat> | you mean TRUNCATE SYSTEM;? :P |
| [08:08:51] | <omega8cc> | hehe |
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| [08:09:08] | <omega8cc> | why not :p |
| [08:09:12] | <omega8cc> | more fun! |
| [08:09:19] | <omega8cc> | of that kind |
| [08:09:42] | <anarcat> | so much fun |
| [08:09:55] | <cmcintosh> | did you update versions of views? |
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| [08:10:11] | <cmcintosh> | i noticed that happening to me last time i did a views update |
| [08:11:52] | <omega8cc> | you really need "drush rr" there |
| [08:12:42] | <omega8cc> | registry_rebuild |
| [08:13:14] | <omega8cc> | it helps to fix paths in the system table if you are reverting to backup with old paths there |
| [08:13:56] | <omega8cc> | http://drupal.org/project/registry_rebuild |
| [08:14:46] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: ^^ |
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| [08:21:33] | <gboudrias> | oh my how did I not know about drush rr before |
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| [08:37:39] | <anarcat> | site should be fully restored to last night |
| [08:41:00] | <omega8cc> | heh |
| [08:42:43] | <omega8cc> | I think we could host it on a server with R1Soft backups running for all databases and files every 2 hours, if that helps |
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| [08:48:16] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: what you think? |
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| [08:49:57] | <anarcat> | i think we need to fix that freaking site |
| [08:52:22] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: r1soft backup we use allows you to restore stuff per db table and per file, so it is very handy, but sure, better avoid that than "fix" with better backups |
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