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| [11:36:21] | <mig5> | hey halcyonCorsair |
| [11:36:29] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: heya |
| [11:36:46] | <mig5> | so https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/fabric-deploy/blob/flat/deploy.py |
| [11:36:59] | <halcyonCorsair> | yup? |
| [11:37:00] | <mig5> | wondering if this means your site's codebase is the entire copy of drupal core + everything else, in your git repo |
| [11:37:05] | <mig5> | e.g not using drush make? |
| [11:37:22] | <halcyonCorsair> | often it is, yeah |
| [11:38:01] | <mig5> | i've a client that wants to improve deployment process but mainly avoid having 8 copies of a custom module in various site codebases |
| [11:38:25] | <mig5> | i see drush make as being the answer, but i want to wrap it up in a nice deployment too, and hard to think of how to do things like 'tagged releases' when there's not really anything in the codebase coz of drush make :) |
| [11:38:26] | <halcyonCorsair> | at this stage its a kinda historic workflow that we're still using, but is still required in some places due to client contracts |
| [11:38:49] | <mig5> | thinking that i could make part of the deploymetn actually drush make the components *into* a git repo as a complete object, then tag it |
| [11:38:55] | <mig5> | dunno |
| [11:40:21] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: recently saw a workflow where: each module/theme, etc in a repo, then a repo for an 'install profile' w/the install profile + main drush make file, then a 'platform' make file that selected the install profile repo + drupal core |
| [11:40:28] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [11:40:39] | <halcyonCorsair> | you could do similar, and put your main/platform makefile in the repo and tag that |
| [11:40:44] | <mig5> | that was the original and seems still the best idea |
| [11:41:03] | <mig5> | same as http://mig5.net/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-version-control-dru... |
| [11:41:06] | <mig5> | way back in october 09 |
| [11:41:33] | <mig5> | probably the profile repo would have its own tag |
| [11:41:42] | <mig5> | and that tag would be specified against the profile 'project' in the stub makefile |
| [11:42:08] | <mig5> | and jenkins can track the change to the stub makefile repo and build once a tag was changed.. but not really care what the tag was specifically. |
| [11:42:09] | <halcyonCorsair> | btw, could easily add the ability for my fabric to use makefiles, just haven't got there yet :) |
| [11:51:35] | <halcyonCorsair> | pretty much |
| [11:52:36] | <halcyonCorsair> | mig5: the other alternative (with the monolithic repo approach) is to possibly use https://github.com/apenwarr/git-subtree or http://gitslave.sourceforge.net/ |
| [11:53:00] | <halcyonCorsair> | but makefiles are likely easier most of the time |
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| [18:23:34] | <wroxbox> | Hi. I just filled new bugreport. http://drupal.org/node/1534948 . Did not mark it major, but it is now kind of really bad showstopper. Can anyone have a moment to review it? |
| [18:23:35] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1534948 => Migrate can't delete settings.php => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [18:38:02] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: hello! |
| [18:38:14] | <wroxbox> | hi darthsteven |
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| [18:39:35] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: just looking at your issue |
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| [18:42:37] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: I was in a similar situation the other day |
| [18:42:43] | <darthsteven> | trying to remember how to solve it |
| [18:43:11] | <wroxbox> | I have two aegir installations and Having the issue in both. |
| [18:43:55] | <darthsteven> | is this a production site we need to care about, or are you just testing, and we need to fix a bug? |
| [18:44:01] | <wroxbox> | Didn't fill the issue until was 100% sure I can reproduce it on another server. |
| [18:44:19] | <wroxbox> | This is going to be production server at any time. |
| [18:45:23] | <wroxbox> | We are now just doing load balancing tests and creating the basic infrastructure for production. |
| [18:46:11] | <darthsteven> | right, but I mean have you lost data, or can you just delete that site in the issue? |
| [18:46:37] | <wroxbox> | oh. sure. Didn't loose any data. |
| [18:46:52] | <darthsteven> | I think that what you can do is just update the platform that the site is using directly in the DB and re-verify |
| [18:47:07] | <darthsteven> | because the roll-back at that point is incorrect |
| [18:47:16] | <darthsteven> | it gets a bit messy |
| [18:47:26] | <darthsteven> | because you're past the point of no-return |
| [18:47:40] | <darthsteven> | it's really odd that it was unable to delete settings.php tough |
| [18:47:44] | <wroxbox> | I recovered by copying all files from sles0044 to sless0045 and verified it again. |
| [18:47:45] | <darthsteven> | *though |
| [18:49:57] | <wroxbox> | it deletes all other files, why is settings.php different? |
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| [19:04:45] | <darthsteven> | I'm not sure, it doesn't make a lot of sense really |
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| [19:10:24] | <wroxbox> | are the permissions right for the settins.php? read for user and read for group |
| [19:11:59] | <darthsteven> | think so, that should be enough to delete it |
| [19:13:03] | <darthsteven> | sorry, I need to work on other stuff at the moment, but we're having 'office hours' later today, so I'll have a look then, sorry! |
| [19:16:33] | <wroxbox> | sure. Ping me anytime. |
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| [00:00:42] | <darthsteven> | It's office hours time |
| [00:00:50] | <darthsteven> | if you need something to do, let me know! |
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| [00:01:47] | * darthsteven has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.7 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.7 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help | scrums on Monday 2000UTC | 'Office hours' on Mondays 1400UTC, Thursdays 0800UTC |
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| [00:10:03] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: I'm working on drush-vagrant this morning, but feel free to point people my way |
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| [00:10:25] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: sure, I'm not exactly expecting a rush of people :) |
| [00:10:42] | <ergonlogic> | right :) Still I'm here to help |
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| [00:11:26] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: btw, I'll be refactoring drush-vagrant blueprints to be full-fledged drush extensions |
| [00:11:42] | <ergonlogic> | probably later in the week |
| [00:11:52] | <darthsteven> | cool |
| [00:12:34] | <ergonlogic> | I figure a little hook implementation for them to declare themselves a blueprint is really all that's required |
| [00:13:06] | <ergonlogic> | but then it allows them to provide their own commands, or hook into pre- and post-initializing, etc. |
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| [00:13:55] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, we'll see where that goes once I'm done integrating aegir-up commands into drush-vagrant, and start pulling out the templates |
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| [00:14:19] | <ergonlogic> | I'll probably go back to the 'project' and 'template' nomenclature though |
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| [00:54:24] | <wroxbox> | darthsteven: ping. |
| [01:01:03] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: hello! |
| [01:01:22] | <wroxbox> | office hours going :) |
| [01:01:55] | <darthsteven> | indeed |
| [01:03:55] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: I've not looked at your issue yet though, I'm not sure if I will today, but will try to look tomorrow if not |
| [01:04:16] | <darthsteven> | you're not the first to report problems with migrating, so maybe we've broken something along the way |
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| [01:06:14] | <wroxbox> | If I remember correct, 1.6 in my local setup env migrate was still working. |
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| [01:14:42] | <michaelfavia> | ive installed aegir via deb successfully about a half dozen times. |
| [01:15:00] | <michaelfavia> | but im installling on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 and having an issue it seems. |
| [01:15:15] | <michaelfavia> | id like to eliminate dns issue. it is for a local setup. |
| [01:15:36] | <darthsteven> | what issue are you having? |
| [01:16:11] | <darthsteven> | michaelfavia: what issue are you having? |
| [01:16:14] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, well the package doesnt install. n debug mode it complains about permissions on the conf files that are in /var/aegir |
| [01:17:00] | <darthsteven> | I've not tried to install it myself on 12.04, could you pop some relevant logs into an issue on d.o? |
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| [01:17:29] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, happily. id liek to remove the possiility that my stupidity befor ei wast ebug counts on it thoguh |
| [01:17:44] | <michaelfavia> | if i use my own fqdn titanium.favish.com on the machine. |
| [01:17:49] | <michaelfavia> | i can just enter it into hsts right?? |
| [01:17:53] | <michaelfavia> | /etc/hosts |
| [01:18:00] | <darthsteven> | that should be the case |
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| [01:18:23] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, and whats the deal with 127.0.1.1 should it go there or on 127.0.0.1? |
| [01:20:18] | <darthsteven> | either I think, but I tend to go for 127.0.0.1 |
| [01:21:08] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, me as well :) |
| [01:21:25] | <michaelfavia> | im just trying to make sure it isnt a hostname issue that i send someoen chaning down. |
| [01:21:28] | <michaelfavia> | chasing |
| [01:21:39] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, which logs would be helpful? |
| [01:21:57] | <michaelfavia> | output from the debug install i assume. |
| [01:22:00] | <michaelfavia> | anything else? |
| [01:22:00] | <darthsteven> | yup |
| [01:22:07] | <darthsteven> | not that I can think of |
| [01:22:15] | <michaelfavia> | ok one sec. |
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| [01:27:15] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, interesting. after a manual delettion of aegir remanants it installed successfully |
| [01:27:29] | <michaelfavia> | i wen thtorugh and manually removed the aegir user, folder, etc |
| [01:27:35] | <darthsteven> | hmm... |
| [01:27:38] | <darthsteven> | strange |
| [01:27:41] | <michaelfavia> | which were oddly left after a at remove |
| [01:27:46] | <michaelfavia> | s/at/apt |
| [01:28:03] | <darthsteven> | could you log an issue about installing on 12.0, we should probably test that at least :) |
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| [01:28:13] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, of course. |
| [01:28:29] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, for what its worth the FIRST time i tried to install i forgot to configure the host and it failed. so i removed all the packages. |
| [01:28:39] | <michaelfavia> | and tried again after configuring |
| [01:28:59] | <darthsteven> | could you pop that on the ticket too please? |
| [01:29:05] | <darthsteven> | could you raise it as a 'task' |
| [01:29:11] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, you got it |
| [01:29:16] | <darthsteven> | michaelfavia++ |
| [01:29:17] | <darthsteven> | thanks! |
| [01:30:02] | <michaelfavia> | but apparently that didnt get the job done. by manually deleting the mysql user, system user and directory it installed successfully after an insanely long wait/ahng during the install step. (2mins plus) |
| [01:30:13] | <michaelfavia> | ill post the issue and this transcript. |
| [01:30:21] | <michaelfavia> | thx for the ear darthsteven |
| [01:30:45] | <darthsteven> | np, that's what office hours are for! |
| [01:31:09] | <darthsteven> | hefring help |
| [01:31:09] | <hefring> | Detailed information is available with "BOTNAME: help <feature>" where <feature> is one of: Aggregator, Auth, Botagotchi, Factoids, Karma, Logging, Project URLs, Reminders, Seen, Tell, Timezones. |
| [01:31:24] | <darthsteven> | hefring help factoids |
| [01:31:24] | <hefring> | Set factoids with "BOTNAME: Drupal is great.", "No, BOTNAME, cats are furry.", "BOTNAME: Drupal is also powerful.", "BOTNAME: cheer is <action>cheers for !who in !channel!", or "BOTNAME: ping is <reply>WHAT?!". Retrieve with "Drupal?" or "BOTNAME: cheer!" Forget with "BOTNAME: forget ping". PM with "BOTNAME: tell newb about support". Browsable at <http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/factoid>. |
| [01:33:24] | <hefring> | Git => Issue #1510572 by Steven Jones: Fixed Why do we use mktime() instead of time() ?. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/a2655279286d12d88... |
| [01:33:39] | <darthsteven> | hefring office hours is Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
| [01:33:39] | <hefring> | darthsteven: Okay. |
| [01:33:43] | <darthsteven> | office hours? |
| [01:33:43] | <hefring> | office hours is Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
| [01:34:15] | <darthsteven> | hefring office hours is <reply>Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
| [01:34:15] | <hefring> | darthsteven: Okay. |
| [01:34:17] | <darthsteven> | office hours? |
| [01:34:17] | <hefring> | Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
| [01:34:33] | <darthsteven> | hefring: botsnack |
| [01:34:33] | <hefring> | *burp* |
| [01:36:49] | <wamilton> | has anyone had success running just provision with no aegir? |
| [01:38:30] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: some people do indeed |
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| [01:38:52] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: mig5 might know more, but I don't know anyone using it specifically in that way |
| [01:39:07] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: specifically, I'm also experiencing this issue http://drupal.org/node/1454316 |
| [01:39:09] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1454316 => Provision recurses infinitely on reading in context => Provision, Code, normal, active, 8 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
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| [01:39:23] | <darthsteven> | oh awesome |
| [01:39:31] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: you are my new friend right now :) |
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| [01:39:40] | <darthsteven> | I'd like to get to the bottom of these issues |
| [01:39:41] | <wamilton> | on the bright side, when I aegir-up, it works on the vm |
| [01:40:15] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: you can have any config info you want, just ask :) |
| [01:41:13] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: your *entire* .drush directory? |
| [01:42:07] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: or you, know, ssh access :) |
| [01:42:13] | <darthsteven> | whichever is easier |
| [01:43:56] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: I'm a maintainer btw, not just some random person |
| [01:43:56] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: you tease ;) |
| [01:44:21] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: sorry, when you maintain Aegir you get channel ops too |
| [01:44:32] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: no worries |
| [01:45:08] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: I know |
| [01:45:08] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: pm? |
| [01:45:39] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: mad props on aegir-up |
| [01:45:52] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: hey, thank! |
| [01:46:13] | <ergonlogic> | s/thank/thanks |
| [01:46:31] | <ergonlogic> | ugh, anti-biotics make me sluggish |
| [01:46:47] | <ergonlogic> | *sniffle* *cough* |
| [01:46:57] | <michaelfavia> | aegir-up? |
| [01:47:03] | <michaelfavia> | botsnack? |
| [01:47:03] | <hefring> | oh I couldn't... oh alright then.. |
| [01:47:07] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: I had this issue http://drupal.org/node/1526724 and it's because on osx the staff gid is 20 |
| [01:47:08] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1526724 => Error while booting VM (puppet manifests) => Aegir-up (Vagrant-based Aegir virtual machine), Puppet manifests, normal, active, 4 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [01:47:28] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: hmm, ok, good to knwo |
| [01:47:29] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, what is this aegir-up you speak of :) |
| [01:47:52] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: it's a local inplementation of Aegir within a Vagrant VM |
| [01:48:12] | <darthsteven> | hefring: help botsnack |
| [01:48:12] | <hefring> | |
| [01:48:33] | <darthsteven> | hefring: help Botagotchi |
| [01:48:33] | <hefring> | Proper care and feeding lets your botagotchi grow and be happy! |
| [01:48:33] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, with the purpose of providing virtualization for lots of clients? |
| [01:48:38] | <ergonlogic> | I'm actually in the process of migrating a lot of the code over to the drush-vagrant project |
| [01:49:09] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: no, we have a Puppet module for deploying it in production for clients |
| [01:49:18] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: this is for local development and testing |
| [01:49:56] | <ergonlogic> | eventually, I'd like to see it become a local 'client' for an Aegir-based continuous integration system |
| [01:50:15] | <ergonlogic> | on par with where Pantheon and Acquia Dev Desktop are going |
| [01:50:38] | <ergonlogic> | a ways to go yet, though |
| [01:51:20] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, very interesting. im trying to imagine how to leverage the tool in my workflow as a drupal webshop |
| [01:51:28] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: have you considered offering only profile development? |
| [01:51:47] | <ergonlogic> | the pieces are coming together nicely: I have a template that installs Jenkins now |
| [01:51:47] | <michaelfavia> | seesm maybe nice for sharing dev setups with vendors, etc? |
| [01:52:39] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: well, I use it to share an entire dev environment with colleagues, where we're building a SaaS service atop Aegir |
| [01:52:59] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: only profile development ? |
| [01:53:30] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, very cool, and these vagrant boxes seem to just contain the configuration and content above the base OS image? |
| [01:53:37] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: but having a local aegir is tremendously useful for feature/module development, for example |
| [01:53:50] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, i run local aegir on my ox here |
| [01:53:51] | <michaelfavia> | box |
| [01:54:01] | <michaelfavia> | but directly in ubuntu 12.04 |
| [01:54:08] | <michaelfavia> | not ina vm. |
| [01:54:23] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: right, since I develop for aegir too, I really prefer to isolate it in a VM |
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| [01:54:57] | <michaelfavia> | 100% makes sense. this might be useful for giving it to designers/developers to work and commit their code. |
| [01:55:06] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: yep |
| [01:55:23] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: what I mean is that the environment is spun up with everything versioned in git, and it would suit me better if it didn't do that and I could pass through that I wanted the install profile to be a working copy |
| [01:55:48] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: also, it installs from the dev version of Aegir, so you still have all the .git dirs, making development on aegir itself alot easier |
| [01:56:10] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, THAT is nice. like configurable drush backends.. |
| [01:56:23] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: and it'll mount /var/aegir locally for you, so you needn't ssh into the box, but can instead edit directly |
| [01:56:42] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, this is eerily addressing my concerns befor ei have them |
| [01:56:52] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: that way we have a tool that allows us to provision-deploy backups from a central aegir for developing just the code that can actually be deployed |
| [01:56:59] | <michaelfavia> | ergonlogic, when you isolate it how do shared filesystems work? <--- was LITERALLY my next question |
| [01:57:01] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: others have asked for that feature before, you see |
| [01:57:14] | <ergonlogic> | michaelfavia: NFS |
| [01:57:52] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: which install profile? hostmaster? |
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| [01:58:20] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: no, I mean I want to force my co-workers to write an install profile for each site we do |
| [01:59:23] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: ah, well I have built-in the ability to add arbitrary makefiles to build platforms |
| [01:59:42] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: I don't think it's currently working though, due to some of the recent refactoring |
| [01:59:57] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: but I *think* I had a working-copy option |
| [01:59:59] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: so really, the problem space I'm interested in is being able to provide the content of a site in aegir to a dev to stick on their local, but also make the directories match |
| [02:00:07] | <ergonlogic> | it'd be in puppet though |
| [02:03:14] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: so, basically clone a live site locally, and then be able to push config changes back to prod via features? |
| [02:03:29] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: that's how I've envisioned that kind of workflow |
| [02:04:25] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: yes, exactly, or in the event that no one has done any db changes, just make it the forward dev |
| [02:04:38] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: no one else, I mean |
| [02:05:47] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: from my perspective, I'd want to enforce that config changes are pushed through code |
| [02:06:15] | <ergonlogic> | I think it's a bad idea to push a dev db to live |
| [02:06:18] | <ergonlogic> | ever |
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| [02:06:30] | <ergonlogic> | not that I haven;t done it... |
| [02:06:56] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: I don't disagree, and I feel like I want to use profiler for things like 'little menu changes' that people just want to sneak in |
| [02:07:33] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: but profiles (and profiler) only run on install |
| [02:07:42] | <ergonlogic> | I thought you were talking about a live site |
| [02:07:51] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: good point |
| [02:08:25] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: Features are probably the way to go for that |
| [02:09:00] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: so on migrate/clone, if you want to force say, a variable to have a given value because of the platform or server, you should just use features? |
| [02:09:04] | <ergonlogic> | I guess if the content is very static, like basic brochure sites, then profiles could work |
| [02:10:23] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: my head is pretty fuzzy from some medication I'm on, so this may not be the best time... |
| [02:10:26] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: but |
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| [02:10:52] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: you can set vars in local.settings.php, or in global.inc |
| [02:11:16] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: I've been considering putting in a feature request to have a platform-wide include too |
| [02:11:32] | <ergonlogic> | but you may also find the environments module interesting |
| [02:11:52] | <ergonlogic> | http://drupal.org/project/environment |
| [02:13:07] | <ergonlogic> | I think I had something like that in mind |
| [02:13:16] | <ergonlogic> | but I haven't looked at it for awhile |
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| [02:13:28] | <ergonlogic> | not sure if that helps any |
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| [02:15:12] | <wamilton> | everybody: darthsteven helped me with my provision-a-la-carte issue, you can peep the update to the ticket: http://drupal.org/node/1454316#comment-5877218 |
| [02:15:13] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1454316 => Provision recurses infinitely on reading in context => Provision, Code, normal, active, 9 comments, 3 IRC mentions |
| [02:16:30] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: ty, part of the issue is dealing with variables that can't be stored in plain text |
| [02:17:51] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: we have an accounting service that we need to authenticate with, and we want different platforms to talk to different endpoints so that a dev doesn't mistakenly disrupt actual business, and so we need to have different credentials after migrating |
| [02:19:01] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: and we also want to have different keys that do the encrypting on different servers, so it's a log of chickens eggs and matroska dolls |
| [02:19:47] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: then, maybe set some custom context variables via a provision extension? |
| [02:20:07] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: along the line of mig5's article |
| [02:20:20] | <wamilton> | you mean the cheese module? |
| [02:20:45] | <ergonlogic> | yes, the infamous cheese module |
| [02:20:46] | <ergonlogic> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/75 |
| [02:22:26] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: I'm going to go rest up... I hope you share your solution, once you work it out, as I'd be veru interested ;-) |
| [02:22:32] | <ergonlogic> | s/veru/very |
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| [02:24:55] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: I guess what I don't follow about this example is that it seems that the only thing you can talk to that effects change on the remote server is the install profile? |
| [02:42:23] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: have a read of: http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/storing-data-aegir |
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| [02:51:33] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: just full of info today aren't you? :) |
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| [04:59:05] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven anarcat mig5 omega8cc: scrum? |
| [04:59:33] | <anarcat> | yep, i can |
| [04:59:43] | <ergonlogic> | k, great |
| [05:00:03] | <ergonlogic> | was a Thursday scrum last week, which is good to see |
| [05:01:06] | <ergonlogic> | discussion of 1.8 release this week? |
| [05:01:14] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [05:01:22] | <anarcat> | the thursday scrum is at 7hAM is that right? |
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| [05:01:31] | <anarcat> | i am worried about the dual scrums |
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| [05:01:45] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I think it's like 4am here in Mtl |
| [05:01:52] | <anarcat> | i feel it's splitting the community |
| [05:01:57] | <anarcat> | it's 6am here |
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| [05:02:09] | <ergonlogic> | ah, ok, well, no difference to me :) |
| [05:02:25] | <anarcat> | so anyways |
| [05:02:30] | <anarcat> | i really think we should release 1.8 soon |
| [05:02:35] | <anarcat> | i am not sure i will have time to do this now |
| [05:02:42] | <anarcat> | but maybe we can call for patches before the release |
| [05:02:47] | <ergonlogic> | since we log them, I think we'll be ok, as long as we bother to read the ones we miss |
| [05:02:52] | <anarcat> | i have worked on provisionacl last week |
| [05:03:02] | <anarcat> | and i have made it so it changes the mode on the whole sites directory |
| [05:03:10] | <anarcat> | so that users can create local.settings.php or .git and so on |
| [05:03:17] | <anarcat> | this fixes a bunch of issues at koumbit |
| [05:03:21] | <ergonlogic> | sweet |
| [05:03:28] | <anarcat> | but makes securing aegir harder |
| [05:03:46] | <anarcat> | i still have to do that estime for the subsites thing |
| [05:04:38] | <anarcat> | and i am looking at moving files/modules/... out of the sites directory, maybe even making the whole directory a symlink |
| [05:04:51] | <anarcat> | that's about it for me |
| [05:05:03] | <ergonlogic> | moving them to clients/? |
| [05:05:21] | <anarcat> | yeah, basically |
| [05:05:38] | <ergonlogic> | that'd probably simplify sftp and such |
| [05:06:05] | <ergonlogic> | ok, well on my part, I've been granted commit access to drush-vagrant |
| [05:06:23] | <ergonlogic> | so I'm migrating a bunch of code from aegir-up over there |
| [05:06:43] | <ergonlogic> | which should help to stabilize aegir-up somewhat |
| [05:07:05] | <ergonlogic> | as I tease apart the templating framework for vagrant, and the template that deploys Aegir |
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| [05:07:55] | <anarcat> | that's good |
| [05:07:56] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, that and getting our AegirVPS infrastructure worted out thave been keeping me busy |
| [05:08:20] | <ergonlogic> | that latter, I might blog about in a week or two, once I've got it running the way I'd like |
| [05:08:29] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [05:08:44] | <ergonlogic> | and so that aegir-up can create a working local environment that more or less matches it |
| [05:09:18] | <ergonlogic> | I've started a second template to work similarly to aegir-up, that includes a Jenkins server |
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| [05:10:22] | <ergonlogic> | it's also planned to have bind, squid and git servers |
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| [05:11:08] | <ergonlogic> | so it can be the local end of a continuous integration workflow, but it depends on drush-vagrant stabilizing a bit more first |
| [05:11:17] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, that's pretty much it from me |
| [05:11:48] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven omega8cc mig5 others: anything to add? |
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| [05:12:15] | <omega8cc> | I fixed a few small bugs in the nginx config so it should now just work with dotdeb build, as it should be recommended build for nginx based installs on Debian, then started to review the code missing in 2.x, as there are patches committed only in 1.x, however so far only 3 are tagged, but I will review also previous months to find them all |
| [05:12:34] | <omega8cc> | http://drupal.org/project/issues?text=&projects=provision%2C+hosting%2C+... |
| [05:13:27] | <omega8cc> | then I will move to the deb based build, finally |
| [05:13:47] | <omega8cc> | I mean, to make the deb install working with nginx |
| [05:14:13] | <omega8cc> | and that is it from me, I guess |
| [05:14:56] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven, mig5, anyone else? |
| [05:15:33] | <ergonlogic> | Office hours are worth noting |
| [05:15:40] | <omega8cc> | right |
| [05:15:46] | <ergonlogic> | http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
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| [05:15:49] | <omega8cc> | great idea |
| [05:15:59] | <ergonlogic> | agreed |
| [05:16:51] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: aha, that's what's scheduled for 4:00am :) |
| [05:17:06] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, I'll post the log |
| [05:17:10] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: log pointer |
| [05:17:10] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-04-16#T195129 |
| [05:17:16] | <omega8cc> | thanks! |
| [05:17:39] | <anarcat> | thanks |
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| [05:25:29] | <darthsteven> | sorry guys! |
| [05:25:35] | <darthsteven> | just got the notifications |
| [05:25:50] | <darthsteven> | and mostly forgot about the scrum |
| [05:25:54] | <darthsteven> | :( |
| [05:26:06] | <darthsteven> | I'll say my piece at the next one |
| [05:27:39] | <darthsteven> | I will go through the process of releasing 1.8 on Wednesday |
| [05:27:51] | <darthsteven> | there's a couple of bugs I want to test and fix first |
| [05:27:59] | <darthsteven> | and finally have the time to |
| [05:28:08] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [05:28:12] | <anarcat> | go go go |
| [05:28:26] | <anarcat> | the release process changed so maybe you'll need my help |
| [05:28:33] | <anarcat> | i won't be there wed afternoon however |
| [05:28:56] | <darthsteven> | ah okay, maybe I'll work fast, and it'll be Tuesday :) |
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| [07:17:17] | <wamilton> | does anyone have a features server and if so, how does one install what you have? |
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| [08:19:43] | <mig5> | <anarcat> i am worried about the dual scrums |
| [08:19:44] | <mig5> | <anarcat> i feel it's splitting the community |
| [08:19:51] | <mig5> | sorry, but that's timezones for you! :) |
| [08:20:15] | <mig5> | i thought we were trying to avoid having to have people awake at 6am |
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| [08:20:23] | <mig5> | open source is cool and all that, but some of us need sleep :) |
| [08:21:16] | <wamilton> | mig5: I have a question about your drush make + aegir + install profile unifying theory post if you've got a moment |
| [08:24:22] | <wamilton> | or anyone else: does migrating to a freshly built platform whose active profile has new dependencies actually enable those modules on the new instances of the cloned/migrated site? |
| [08:24:53] | <mig5> | no, migrate doesn't do any enabling of modules |
| [08:25:03] | <mig5> | but it does invoke drush updatedb (same as running update.php) |
| [08:25:17] | <mig5> | so if you had a small utility module that enabled modules in a hook_update() |
| [08:25:31] | <mig5> | ideally, simply activating a custom Feature that went and enabled any other relevant dependencies automatically |
| [08:25:36] | <mig5> | that would be the way to do it, I think. |
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| [08:26:28] | <wamilton> | and if not doing that, then just update the codebase on your branch, make a new platform, clone the dev site onto it, switch things on, and see if you were right? |
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| [08:26:42] | <mig5> | yep |
| [08:26:55] | <mig5> | if it works, then code it so it's automatic for when it happens on your live site |
| [08:28:17] | <wamilton> | mig5: good call. Also, on the note of features, I was looking into setting up a features server and can't help but not that many such ventures are derelict. Is it better to just use git with features? |
| [08:28:30] | <wamilton> | *help but note* |
| [08:28:59] | <mig5> | yeah i think feature servers kind of died a bit.. i don't see any big benefit, and probably would just use git repositories / sandboxes on drupal.org |
| [08:29:23] | <mig5> | the difference is just that with a git repo, you have to specify the tag or branch etc |
| [08:29:33] | <mig5> | as opposed to a 'version' number like a drupal module, which you get with featureservers |
| [08:29:34] | <Vertice> | wasnt phase2 going to build an app store with feature servers ? |
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| [08:29:40] | <mig5> | no idea |
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| [08:30:03] | <mig5> | what's phase2 done at all? we've had, i think 1 or 2 maintenance releases of openatrium in the last 2 years? |
| [08:30:35] | <wamilton> | yeah, I think openpublish got some love as well? |
| [08:31:38] | <mig5> | 6 releases of atrium since 2010, i stand corrected :) |
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| [08:41:32] | <halcyonCorsair> | most likely people generally build features generically enough |
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