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[15:06:06]<tommyent>Why would my Aegir site be adding example.com to the url of the image cache uploads
[15:06:18]<tommyent>sorry images not uploads
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[20:11:34]<halcyonCorsair>hefring: tell realityloop: i should be online ~between 10am and 5pm NZST tomorrow.
[20:11:34]<hefring>halcyonCorsair: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around.
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[20:15:41]<halcyonCorsair>hefring: tell realityloop: btw, how is your experience with gitlabhq going?
[20:15:41]<hefring>halcyonCorsair: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around.
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[22:17:27]<tommyent>Does anyone know what is going on. All my image cache images look ilke this http://dev.geodatavision.com/sites/dev.geodatavision.com/files/imagecach...
[22:17:52]<tommyent>Where is the sites/example.com coming from?
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[22:59:32]<darthsteven>tommyent: what's the actual URL of the image?
[23:00:46]<tommyent>http://dev.geodatavision.com/sites/dev.geodatavision.com/files/imagecach...
[23:01:21]<tommyent>darthsteven: It's driving me crazy
[23:02:37]<darthsteven>sounds like your file directories have gotten a little confused somehow
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[23:04:59]<omega8cc>tommyent: this happens when you have more that one consistent path used in the "files" table, so Aegir can't really rewrite the paths on clone/migrate properly and the site confused
[23:05:32]<omega8cc>the site is* confused
[23:06:35]<omega8cc>you need to review the paths in the 'files' table and fix those looking different
[23:06:53]<tommyent>darthsteven: For sure. omega8cc yeah it appears to be. What would be the best way to fix this? Replace in the current dev database
[23:07:07]<tommyent>Or before import
[23:07:59]<omega8cc>tommyent: this is why my import how-to has these weird steps with creating the site with original domain and renaming it twice: http://omega8.cc/import-your-sites-to-aegir-in-8-easy-steps-109
[23:09:16]<omega8cc>note that it will still not help if you already have some paths with sites/example.com and some with sites/default or sites/anything in the same table
[23:11:01]<tommyent>omega8cc: Awesome. I'll try this again thanks. darthsteven omega8cc Thanks to both of you
[23:11:07]<omega8cc>I means steps #4 and #7 there
[23:11:10]<omega8cc>np
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[01:42:08]<darthsteven>anyone around?
[01:43:26]<anarcat>yes
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[01:53:46]<darthsteven>awesome
[01:53:59]<darthsteven>I'm looking at this whole syncing of files to and from remote servers
[01:54:04]<darthsteven>http://drupal.org/node/1083366
[01:54:06]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1083366 => Dont sync $site/files on verify of a site => Provision, Code, major, needs work, 37 comments, 1 IRC mention
[01:55:25]<darthsteven>for 2.x I'd really like to push the running of drush commands out to the remote servers
[01:55:44]<darthsteven>so we don't run drush on the master server for remote sites so much
[01:56:01]<darthsteven>e.g. cron would actually call drush cron on the remote server
[01:56:19]<darthsteven>so that we don't really have to care about syncing the files around
[01:56:36]<darthsteven>on a backup we do
[01:56:41]<darthsteven>but otherwise we don't
[01:56:51]<darthsteven>because we'll never use them
[01:57:28]<darthsteven>however, I'm wondering if we could fix up 1.x by also not syncing the files directory around, except for on a backup
[01:57:35]<anarcat>i agree that we should move more intelligence to the remote servers
[01:57:41]<anarcat>and that syncing files around is crazy
[01:57:49]<anarcat>especially if it's just to do a backup
[01:58:34]<anarcat>what do you think of the patch?
[01:59:11]<darthsteven>the one in #33 ?
[01:59:57]<anarcat>oh, no, i meant the #31 one
[02:00:25]<anarcat>i guess my comment about it still stands
[02:00:32]<darthsteven>ah right..just looking at that
[02:01:07]<darthsteven>ah I think that's trying to not sync the files directory around a lot of the time
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[02:03:02]<darthsteven>that patch is messy, I'm not sure why it bothers adding in all those calls to provision_drupal_sync_site()
[02:03:15]<darthsteven>as it's called by the function right above where it's added
[02:04:16]<darthsteven>oh right, it takes it out of there
[02:05:35]<darthsteven>okay, so basically the patch means that the files are sync'd hub -> spoke on everything *except* verify
[02:06:42]<darthsteven>whereas, I think I'd special case the backup command, and sync them back then, but not at any other time
[02:07:04]<anarcat>you know, i have looked at this issue over and over again and i can't figure it out
[02:07:11]<darthsteven>maybe on a migrate the entire site needs to be sync'd I guess
[02:08:04]<darthsteven>anarcat: I think it's super messy, because we are executing drush on the hub, and people are using the spoke webserver, so if a file changes on both, we don't know who is right
[02:08:19]<darthsteven>I'm not surprised it is confusing
[02:08:24]<anarcat>it is
[02:08:29]<anarcat>i think this design is just broken
[02:08:34]<darthsteven>I think I'm getting my head around it
[02:08:40]<darthsteven>agreed
[02:09:54]<darthsteven>I wonder how much trouble not syncing the files around by default, but doing so on clone/migrate would cause?
[02:11:03]<darthsteven>at the moment, we basically treat the hub as the canonical source for files, whereas, in fact it's the spoke
[02:11:18]<anarcat>yep
[02:12:20]<darthsteven>however, if people use aegir's cron implementation with drush, it could actually be the hub for those brief moments
[02:12:52]<darthsteven>although the cron may not have access to all the files on the spoke anyway, so that's broken too really
[02:13:40]<anarcat>well, cron is another matter, which is also broken
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[02:15:00]<darthsteven>okay, but I'm trying to work out when the hub actually needs to be the canonical source of the files
[02:15:12]<darthsteven>so far I think that it's just during a migrate
[02:16:00]<anarcat>i am not sure it should ever be that
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[02:17:05]<darthsteven>well in 1.x we run the update-db on the hub
[02:17:39]<anarcat>right, but that doesn't mean it should be canonical
[02:17:46]<darthsteven>agreed
[02:17:47]<anarcat>it needs a copy of the db settings
[02:18:04]<darthsteven>but ideally we'd not have to punt this issue to 2.x entirely
[02:18:19]<darthsteven>and just leave 1.x in this broken state
[02:19:54]<darthsteven>but I'm not sure we can fix up 1.x enough
[02:21:44]<anarcat>i don't know
[02:21:51]<darthsteven>:(
[02:21:51]<anarcat>i don't use that stuff, it just feels too broken
[02:21:56]<anarcat>it's why i wrote the pack module :)
[02:22:10]<darthsteven>it's mostly really good, just has some rough edges
[02:23:03]<darthsteven>I guess you could just 'solve' this by using NFS, and mount the spoke files directory from the hub
[02:23:09]<darthsteven>but that sounds really scary
[02:23:22]<darthsteven>anyway...gotta go, good to chat!
[02:23:45]<anarcat>well, that's what the pack module does
[02:23:54]<darthsteven>will do a release of 1.8 tomorrow, starting in about 16 hours
[02:24:32]<anarcat>alright
[02:24:39]<anarcat>that will be a great release
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[02:41:06]<hefring>community => Aegir and code versioning => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-and-code-versioning
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[04:28:16]<hefring>Git => Remove duplicate error_log directive in the Nginx config. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/0e3d10f198b8464e2...
[04:28:16]<hefring>Git => Merge branch '6.x-2.x' of git.drupal.org:project/provision into dev-nginx-6.x-2.x => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/2814c05564c0e0709...
[04:28:16]<hefring>Git => Issue #1528996 by omega8cc - Nginx microcaching should use fastcgi_cache_valid with... => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/a104712466f528111...
[04:28:32]<hefring>Git => Merge branch '6.x-1.x' of git.drupal.org:project/provision into dev-nginx-6.x-1.x => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/6ba72c3575924c3d7...
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[06:26:29]<stieglitz>hey there back again a tad bit more knowledgeable but still struggling with an improperly configured aegir install. after going through an automatic install I cant run drush as root
[06:27:03]<stieglitz>the install never gave me a login link and I cant get one from hostmaster
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[06:27:33]<stieglitz>i really don't wanna do anything stupid to further perpetuate issues
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[07:00:12]<mikl1>Ack, my site installation fails because Aegir insists on sending welcome mails: WD mail: Error sending e-mail (from webmaster@intranet.revealit.dk to mikkel@hush.org) - it cannot send mail from intranet.revealit.dk, because our mailserver rejects, since that mail domain does not exist. Is there a way to disable this behavior
[07:00:15]<mikl1>?
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