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| [10:28:37] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: ping |
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| [10:29:32] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: pong |
| [10:32:44] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: do you have an earlier version of nginx configs that don't enable caching and don't block access to .php files in other dirs? |
| [10:33:13] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: we're finding the default ones less than ideal for local dev |
| [10:35:44] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: just look at the include used in chive - nginx_compact_include.conf |
| [10:35:59] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: cool.. thanks |
| [10:37:11] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: I think there is a how-to in the issue queue somewhere with more examples, including mixed static html and php, wordpress etc |
| [10:38:01] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thanks I'll take a look |
| [10:38:07] | <omega8cc> | np |
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| [18:16:47] | <wroxbox> | darthsteven: ping. pm? |
| [18:17:35] | <darthsteven> | wroxbox: sure |
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| [20:36:56] | <kae76> | o/ shonk |
| [20:37:03] | <kae76> | ;) |
| [20:37:13] | <shonk> | o/ |
| [20:37:15] | <shonk> | :) |
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| [20:38:48] | <kae76> | hello wondering about shell access in/with omega8cc ... Im wanting drush/git malarkey - not sure i will need root access? |
| [20:39:02] | * kae76 still figuring this stuff out :) |
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| [20:40:57] | * kae76 might trying #omega8cc |
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| [20:41:50] | <omega8cc> | kae76: #omega8cc |
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| [20:42:38] | <kae76> | omega8cc, :D ta |
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| [21:36:41] | <gandhiano> | how do I sync the sites/all folder to a remote drupal server? I normally hit verify on the respective website when I want to do this for site-specific module installation (although I'm sure there's some drush equivalent which would make it simpler), but I don't know how this works for the all folder |
| [21:39:04] | <gandhiano> | I guess I found it - running verify on the platform itself |
| [21:39:17] | <gandhiano> | still. the drush equivalent would be a + :) |
| [21:44:51] | <darthsteven> | you should be able to verify the platform or site, and that should sync the sites/all folder |
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| [00:06:08] | <darthsteven> | office hours? |
| [00:06:08] | <hefring> | Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
| [00:06:17] | <darthsteven> | office hours is now people! |
| [00:06:27] | <darthsteven> | feel even more free to ask questions! |
| [00:09:52] | * kae76 oh oh can't think of anything |
| [00:10:04] | <kae76> | ;o) |
| [00:10:09] | <darthsteven> | kae76: sad times, nothing!? |
| [00:10:27] | <kae76> | tbh a shite load darthsteven |
| [00:10:33] | <darthsteven> | heh |
| [00:10:35] | <kae76> | but im not sure where to start, |
| [00:10:49] | <darthsteven> | well, if they're about Aegir, fire away! |
| [00:10:52] | <kae76> | a good n00b intro to this wonderment called aegir |
| [00:11:40] | <darthsteven> | not sure such an intro exists... |
| [00:11:47] | <kae76> | :/ |
| [00:11:47] | <darthsteven> | there's probably a screencast somewhere |
| [00:11:57] | <kae76> | \o/ |
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| [00:12:05] | <darthsteven> | our Drupalcon session from London last year maybe |
| [00:12:09] | <kae76> | well im just in process of chossing a new host.. |
| [00:12:43] | <kae76> | was going between omega8cc & linode.... an then someone chucked into the eqation aegir |
| [00:12:56] | <kae76> | so many things to think about. |
| [00:13:22] | <darthsteven> | linode + Aegir is pretty sweet, I've not used omega8cc, so can't really comment |
| [00:14:00] | <kae76> | omega8cc afaik haz aegir ready to roll. |
| [00:14:06] | <kae76> | i beleieve. |
| [00:14:12] | <darthsteven> | indeedy |
| [00:14:24] | <darthsteven> | installing Aegir is not too hard though |
| [00:14:35] | <darthsteven> | probably depends if you want to run apache or nginx |
| [00:15:26] | <kae76> | all exremyl good Q's |
| [00:15:47] | <darthsteven> | http://community.aegirproject.org/using might be a good place to read about using Aegir, when you're at that point |
| [00:15:51] | * kae76 is low on caffiene & sugar... speelling goes all wrongun |
| [00:16:05] | <kae76> | ok thanks darthsteven :) |
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| [00:23:14] | <daniel_gv> | Hello, I hope I am right it is Office hours! I have looked long at Drupal7 and read a lot of infos on the web site. I think I have learned that for my biggest requirements to have a good Develop->Test->Live staging arrangement I need to wait still for Drupal8. That is at least 12-18 months longer. |
| [00:23:24] | <daniel_gv> | And reading all the discussions over it still I do not see how the solution they talk is OK for 'just people'. |
| [00:23:39] | <daniel_gv> | I heard from my friend that Aegir does NOW have the staging solution for 'us' that does content and settings and database. It has been difficult for me to really find the right answer about it. |
| [00:24:00] | <daniel_gv> | Can you make some comment in an easy way to help me know the truth of it? |
| [00:26:12] | <darthsteven> | daniel_gv: hello! |
| [00:26:28] | <daniel_gv> | Hello darthsteven |
| [00:27:17] | <darthsteven> | so the 'canonical' resource for Aegir's take on this would probably still be: http://mig5.net/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-version-control-dru... |
| [00:27:57] | <darthsteven> | and mig5 has done some more work about automating the dev -> staging -> live workflow here: http://mig5.net/content/zero-touch-drupal-deployment-jenkins-aegir-git-f... |
| [00:28:40] | <darthsteven> | Aegir should make the process easier, but won't make it as easy as say, Pantheon or Acquia cloud |
| [00:29:10] | <darthsteven> | If you are looking for a super easy way to get going with a dev -> staging -> live setup, those can't really be beat at the moment |
| [00:30:18] | <wamilton> | daniel_gv: on top of that, if you need a more custom workflow that involves parallel development with a clients team and your own, Aegir gives you the flexibility to do that |
| [00:30:36] | <daniel_gv> | darthsteven: Ok I will read those, they are new. For me I will not use the cloud solution of somebody else. We must have the independence to our own solution first and only when it works so that we have safety and certainty then we may do the cloud solution. |
| [00:33:03] | <daniel_gv> | Oh no, it is Features again. In my researching I hear this staging question many times but the only answers are 'in techno-talk'. "Just use Features" is not of help at all so far. It makes not much sense at all :-( I will read these very carfully as is your recomendation. |
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| [00:36:01] | <darthsteven> | daniel_gv: the problem is solved with technical solutions at the moment, there is no 'easy' way to do it, or we'd all be doing it that way. I'm afraid that you're likely to have to acquire a high technical knowledge to be able to set up such a workflow |
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| [00:38:12] | <daniel_gv> | darthsteven: Thanks for the honest answer. It is what I think already a bit :-/ I say I do not know Drupal or Aegir yet but is a big surpise that a "Version 7" product that is so big in the world can still not have this solution. |
| [00:38:43] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: I'm of a mind to write some documentation for Aegir |
| [00:38:51] | <daniel_gv> | When we build our own solution we have on Day Number 1 the idea in our heads. But yes of course we do not have the features of all of Drupal. |
| [00:39:02] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: specifically the part about custom services that is completely blank |
| [00:39:14] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: ah yes, services :) |
| [00:39:18] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: any propriety I should observe before just posting my findings? |
| [00:39:21] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: write away! |
| [00:39:35] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: you don't happen to be around do you? |
| [00:39:53] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: I do |
| [00:40:33] | <darthsteven> | daniel_gv: Drupal is a product that has grown organically over a number of years, features that are important to the community using the product get written, others do not sadly, it's just where we are |
| [00:40:39] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: awesome |
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| [00:41:28] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: Who is the person to speak to get the branches that are being updated on api.aegirproject.org changed? |
| [00:41:45] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: umm, me I guess |
| [00:41:55] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: great! |
| [00:41:59] | <ergonlogic> | though I thought you had access too |
| [00:42:12] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I have access to Drupal |
| [00:42:17] | <ergonlogic> | so, replace 7.x with 6.x-2.x? |
| [00:42:27] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: I want to stop showing 7.x-2.x and change to showing 6.x-2.x |
| [00:42:38] | <ergonlogic> | I thought we'd also given you shell/sudo |
| [00:42:43] | <ergonlogic> | but no matter |
| [00:42:47] | <darthsteven> | oohhh |
| [00:42:49] | <darthsteven> | maybe |
| [00:42:52] | <darthsteven> | let me check |
| [00:43:38] | <daniel_gv> | darthsteven: I am seeing that. It is impressive as a community project. It is not so clear as a product for production in my idea. Until you have a big department with Drupal-experts. I will explore in some depth the Aegir solution. If it can do enought for us that will be great! Other wise we must still use other solution. "12-18" months I can not make a decision basis on. |
| [00:44:26] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: no, I don't think you did, which is fine really |
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| [00:44:56] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: I'd be very interested to read it |
| [00:45:03] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: k, I'll take a look |
| [00:45:16] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: thanks very much |
| [00:45:35] | <darthsteven> | I got Drush 5 working with Aegir over the weekend, and I'd like the api site to reflect all my hard work ;) |
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| [00:46:53] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: yeah, that page is a nasty surprise for people like us ;) |
| [00:47:15] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: which page are you referring to specifically? |
| [00:47:46] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/324 |
| [00:47:58] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: for my part, I'd really like to know how to create a new context-type (ala 'server', 'platform' or 'site') |
| [00:49:05] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: I'll try to tackle that. After I figured out the assumptions of the API, everything got a lot clearer, so I'll see if I can figure that out relatively quickly now |
| [00:49:22] | <ergonlogic> | I'd love to see all the context stuff split into it's own drush extension, actually, as I'm ending up rolling my own aliases in drush-vagrant |
| [00:50:30] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: amazing, that page is kinda my doing, sorry that there's nothing there are the moment |
| [00:50:30] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: that would be nice, same for config |
| [00:50:44] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: probably worth nothing that things will change slightly for 2.x |
| [00:51:02] | <daniel_gv> | I am reading more about the Aegir system now to download and try it. I see this "Aegir 1.0 Release on Drupal 7 in Early 2011" info but the Aegir 1.8 I find is just using Drupal 6 still? Is there an other version or did I make this mistake? |
| [00:51:16] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: we can worry about that when 2.x is meant for earth use ;? |
| [00:51:24] | <wamilton> | *;) |
| [00:51:35] | <darthsteven> | daniel_gv: no, Aegir 1.x will use D6 |
| [00:51:51] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: 2.x should be good to go in a few months, at most |
| [00:52:02] | <wamilton> | oh, cool |
| [00:52:13] | <wamilton> | I can stop using two drushes! |
| [00:52:14] | <darthsteven> | 2.x is 'just' better services, Drush 5 and some quick wins |
| [00:52:26] | <darthsteven> | 3.x will be major cleanup and overhaul |
| [00:52:33] | <daniel_gv> | darthsteven: I am reading the wrong infos at the Development Seed site! I think just the aegirproject site is then best? |
| [00:52:34] | <darthsteven> | 4.x will likely be major D8 upgrade |
| [00:52:56] | <darthsteven> | daniel_gv: yeah, http://community.aegirproject.org should be mostly up to date |
| [00:53:00] | <wamilton> | darthsteven: using new drush is actually huge because it gets me much closer to forcing my co-workers to use a local Aegir |
| [00:53:24] | <darthsteven> | wamilton: indeed, we need to get some upstream stuff into Drush 5 before it's ready for production |
| [00:53:40] | <darthsteven> | http://drupal.org/node/1554092 is particularly painful for us |
| [00:53:40] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1554092 => drush_invoke_process uses 100% CPU => Drush, Base system (internal API), critical, needs review, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [00:53:57] | <wamilton> | ouch |
| [00:55:11] | <darthsteven> | which when you're four levels of drush_invoke_process deep, means that Aegir runs very, very slowly |
| [00:55:26] | <wamilton> | yeah, making with 5 has been a shit show, I actually get the 'load too high' error |
| [00:55:57] | <darthsteven> | drush make --concurrency=1 might be the way to go for now |
| [00:56:03] | <daniel_gv> | darthsteven: Ok thank you for helping. I have my sad suspicions at this time that I will not use Drupal. But I have chance with Aegire and must do some working and testing. |
| [00:56:07] | <darthsteven> | once that patch gets it should be better |
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| [00:56:37] | <darthsteven> | daniel_gv: okay, well thanks for considering, totally understand that there are better tools for different jobs though |
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| [00:57:45] | * ergonlogic is updating api.aegirproject.org, so it may be unstable for the next little while |
| [00:59:11] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic++ |
| [00:59:16] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: amazing |
| [00:59:53] | <daniel_gv> | It is a conundrum. Drupal it appears is the best tool for the sites job that it does. Powerfull content managing and so on. But the using of Drupal in a normal shop is too hard and crazy for now even with money. Small customers are too small to get interest from many Drupal experts. Any way, Fingers are crossed for Aegir for me! |
| [01:01:48] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: provision's dev branch remains 6.x-2.x also? |
| [01:02:22] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: because I still see a 7.x-2.x in the repo |
| [01:02:52] | <darthsteven> | yeah, both should be 6.x-2.x |
| [01:03:00] | <darthsteven> | we can forget about 7.x-2.x for the moment |
| [01:03:40] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: fwiw, for smaller clients I'd suggest you consider distributions, rather than building sites from vanilla Drupal |
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| [01:05:45] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: could you grab the master branch of Drush while you're there also, and pop it in a directory called drush-7.x-5.x please? |
| [01:06:34] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: already on top of it |
| [01:06:43] | <darthsteven> | amzing |
| [01:06:46] | <ergonlogic> | master would be 6.x, no? |
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| [01:07:20] | <darthsteven> | crazy Drush peeps |
| [01:07:22] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, I'll poke around on d.o |
| [01:07:25] | <darthsteven> | errm.... |
| [01:07:33] | <darthsteven> | I'm not sure they have a 5.x branch |
| [01:08:10] | <darthsteven> | just use master for now and I'll raise an issue |
| [01:08:39] | <ergonlogic> | you're correct |
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| [01:12:26] | <darthsteven> | apologies that we have so many dev branches, and that I keep changing which one being used for active dev, but I feel that we're getting somewhere with 6.x-2.x now! |
| [01:13:10] | <carwin> | Hey folks, I'm setting up a new web server running squeeze + nginx + mariadb + aegir -- is there any documentation on configuring ssl certs? |
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| [01:14:41] | <darthsteven> | carwin: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/29 might be worth a read, mostly for apache users, but should mostly 'just work' I'd guess |
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| [01:19:52] | <carwin> | thanks darthsteven |
| [01:20:12] | <darthsteven> | no problem! |
| [01:20:14] | <darthsteven> | office hours? |
| [01:20:14] | <hefring> | Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
| [01:20:41] | <darthsteven> | office hours are going for the next 40 minutes |
| [01:21:46] | <carwin> | ok, i'll keep quiet :) |
| [01:32:19] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: ok, mostly done |
| [01:32:55] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: there's a file that generates the "Welcome to Aegir's API and internals documentation..." content |
| [01:33:10] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: could you update that? |
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| [01:34:12] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: specifically so that the one in the 6.x-2.x branch points to other resources for that branch (and maybe drush-master): e.g., http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Hostmaster/6.x-2.x |
| [01:34:56] | <ergonlogic> | The @mainpage thing |
| [01:37:36] | <darthsteven> | carwin: no need to keep quiet, you're supposed to be asking questions! |
| [01:38:19] | <ergonlogic> | also, if you know of a way to specify per-project default branches, let me know |
| [01:38:34] | <ergonlogic> | but I don't think it's possible with API 6.x |
| [01:38:55] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: and while we're at it, I think someone deleted the docs for 'drush_print' |
| [01:39:39] | <ergonlogic> | drush_confirm too |
| [01:40:27] | * ergonlogic has completed this round of updates to api.aegirproject.org, so proverbially setting it to 'needs review' :) |
| [01:41:40] | <theMusician> | Hi everyone, I am curious as to how to help move the following issue forward in the 2.x branch. https://drupal.org/node/1126640 |
| [01:43:47] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: oh lame :( |
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| [01:46:01] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: Sorry, I'm really not sure what to do to progress that one |
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| [01:49:32] | <theMusician> | darthsteven: Ok. So should I ping anarcat or omega8cc when he is on as they filed the original issue? |
| [01:50:06] | <darthsteven> | theMusician: sure |
| [01:51:02] | <theMusician> | darthsteven: Ok, many thanks. Congrats on the Drush 5 progress. |
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| [02:00:09] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: how often does the code on api.aegirproject.org get updated? |
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| [02:08:47] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: right now, every 5 minutes |
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| [02:17:18] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: cool |
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| [02:35:57] | <gandhiano> | if changes are made on a remote drupal server (filesystem) will they be synced to hostmaster or is it only one way? |
| [02:36:19] | <darthsteven> | gandhiano: it all gets a bit messy |
| [02:36:23] | <darthsteven> | it depends on the change |
| [02:36:31] | <darthsteven> | and the operation you are doing tbh |
| [02:36:56] | <gandhiano> | well, basically I want to add the ability for users to edit drupal themes through sftp |
| [02:37:11] | <hefring> | Git => Fix up some docs. => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/ec06cf84a1d1c5563... |
| [02:37:22] | <gandhiano> | so, this would be only on sites/domain.name/themes |
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| [02:41:50] | <mvc> | gandhiano: see provision acl |
| [02:42:25] | <mvc> | basically, this feature is in development -- the basics work but manual intervention is still necessary for now |
| [02:42:37] | <mvc> | but we do that internally at koumbit |
| [02:44:56] | <gandhiano> | mvc, I will check provision acl - I guess for now what I have to do is disable syncing the themes folder from the remote to the hostmaster, right? |
| [02:45:12] | <gandhiano> | I mean, the other way around |
| [02:45:27] | <gandhiano> | any suggestion where to do this? |
| [02:45:40] | <mvc> | what we do is to put the theme dir outside of /var/aegir then add a symlink |
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| [02:46:29] | <mvc> | this works fine except that a) you give your clients/users the ability to run arbitrary php, so you need to trust them |
| [02:47:02] | <mvc> | and b) when you clone a site you'll need to manually make a new copy of the theme dir and update the symlink |
| [02:47:11] | <mvc> | migrating a site from one platform to another works fine though |
| [02:47:46] | <mvc> | both those issues are being worked on, though |
| [02:48:07] | <gandhiano> | this seems a temporary good fix |
| [02:48:07] | <anarcat> | https://drupal.org/node/762138 |
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| [02:48:43] | <gandhiano> | anarcat, tks already following that |
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| [02:53:07] | <stieglitz> | I've 2 normal aegir installs on two different remote servers. Is it difficult to connect them so I can migrate from one to the other. I'm not finding docs for this. |
| [03:03:51] | <ergonlogic> | say, anyone ever run into a segmentation fault when running provision-save? |
| [03:03:57] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [03:04:10] | <anarcat> | https://drupal.org/node/946606 |
| [03:04:17] | <ergonlogic> | k, looking |
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| [03:09:31] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: yes - https://drupal.org/node/946606#comment-5937946 |
| [03:09:59] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: Would love it if you could test the patch |
| [03:10:13] | <omega8cc> | hefring: where are you? |
| [03:10:35] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: which patch? |
| [03:10:42] | <omega8cc> | hefring: botsnack |
| [03:10:42] | <hefring> | thanks omega8cc :) |
| [03:10:47] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: https://drupal.org/node/1454316#comment-5880786 |
| [03:11:09] | <omega8cc> | heh, she understands only this one command :p |
| [03:11:39] | <darthsteven> | That one, it's already in 6.x-1.x because it fixed the issue for me, would really like to know if it fixes other people's issues too! |
| [03:11:47] | <darthsteven> | hefring: Help |
| [03:11:47] | <hefring> | Detailed information is available with "BOTNAME: help <feature>" where <feature> is one of: Aggregator, Auth, Botagotchi, Factoids, Karma, Logging, Project URLs, Reminders, Seen, Tell, Timezones. |
| [03:12:00] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: it was added after the 1.8 release though? |
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| [03:12:13] | <darthsteven> | Think so |
| [03:12:14] | <gandhiano> | mvc, did symlink like you suggested but get errors on the sync, because permissions are not aegir compatible (no chgrp possible - any workaround on this? |
| [03:12:31] | <gandhiano> | or can I just safely ignore (although it's obviously annoying)? |
| [03:12:52] | <gandhiano> | I can also set perms so that aegir group can write |
| [03:15:39] | <mvc> | gandhiano: this approach means you will be responsible for setting some permissions & ownerships manually |
| [03:16:39] | <ergonlogic> | so, installing Provision from Git in /var/aegir/.drush should override the one installed by the .deb, right? |
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| [03:19:25] | <ergonlogic> | so, no, that doesn't work: "Error: Cannot redeclare class provisionConfig_drushrc" |
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| [03:22:10] | <mvc> | ergonlogic: i would get rid of the debian package completely (apt-get purge) then re-install from git |
| [03:23:04] | <ergonlogic> | mvc: yeah, I tarred and deleted /usr/share/drush/commands/provision |
| [03:23:22] | <ergonlogic> | as I'll want to put it back, I suspect |
| [03:23:32] | <mvc> | ergonlogic: i would make sure there's nothing left from the package |
| [03:23:43] | <mvc> | see dpkg -L |
| [03:24:12] | <anarcat> | you could just drop a .git in /usr/share/drush/commands/provision |
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| [03:30:55] | <darthsteven> | How many hours until the scrum? |
| [03:31:10] | <anarcat> | 1h30, iirc |
| [03:31:41] | * anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.8 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.8 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help | scrums: http://community.aegirproject.org/scrums | 'Office hours' on Mondays 1400UTC, Thursdays 0800UTC |
| [03:34:06] | <darthsteven> | Awesome |
| [03:34:31] | <darthsteven> | Much to talk about |
| [03:35:11] | <anarcat> | cool |
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| [04:09:02] | <theMusician> | my queue appears to be stuck - what is the command line command to process the queue? |
| [04:10:41] | <theMusician> | figured it out |
| [04:12:04] | <theMusician> | I had a typo in a .drush.inc file sorry for the ? |
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| [04:55:09] | <theMusician> | I just verified a server and it failed. This worked prior to the 1.8 upgrade. Upon verify, the apache.conf file is generated as blank and actually copies to the live server. That was a bummer. Any other reports of this? |
| [04:59:12] | <anarcat> | alright, scrum time in 1 min |
| [04:59:39] | <theMusician> | I do not see any provision-verify @server name options in drush help. Is there an undocumented way to do so? |
| [05:01:07] | <anarcat> | darthsteven / mig5 / EclipseGc / ergonlogic / mvc / omega8cc / sfyn / shrop / skwashd : scrum time! |
| [05:02:33] | <anarcat> | ... anyone around? :) |
| [05:02:33] | <darthsteven> | awesome |
| [05:02:36] | <anarcat> | yay! |
| [05:02:36] | <ergonlogic> | hi |
| [05:02:40] | <anarcat> | hi |
| [05:02:40] | <hefring> | eh oh |
| [05:02:52] | <omega8cc> | hi |
| [05:02:52] | <hefring> | bonjour |
| [05:02:53] | <anarcat> | hefring freakout |
| [05:02:59] | <anarcat> | hey omega8cc |
| [05:03:04] | <anarcat> | alright, who wants to start? |
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| [05:03:28] | <darthsteven> | Who wants to go first? |
| [05:04:09] | <anarcat> | i can go, i don't have much to say, i'm afraid |
| [05:04:25] | <anarcat> | i made a new release of provisionacl that is much more liberal about file permissions |
| [05:04:32] | <shrop> | hello |
| [05:04:54] | <anarcat> | we recovered from a catastrophic operator failure on our aegir install 2 weeks ago (drush @hostmaster < wrongdb.sql => lots of fun) |
| [05:05:01] | <ergonlogic> | hi shrop |
| [05:05:17] | <shrop> | ergonlogic: hey there :) |
| [05:05:21] | <anarcat> | which outlined a few bugs in import and that critical SSL bug that was fixed in 1.8 (thanks darthsteven !) |
| [05:05:44] | <anarcat> | i'm still looking at finding time to do the estimate for subsites support |
| [05:05:53] | <anarcat> | that's about it for me i think |
| [05:07:00] | <darthsteven> | thanks |
| [05:07:26] | <darthsteven> | my irc connection is not so great, so I'll go next |
| [05:08:25] | <darthsteven> | I got 6.x-2.x working with Drush 5 |
| [05:08:39] | <darthsteven> | which was reasonably easy |
| [05:08:54] | <darthsteven> | but, there are a couple of upstream bugs that need fixing in Drush first |
| [05:09:09] | <darthsteven> | http://drupal.org/node/1554092 is particularly nasty for us |
| [05:09:10] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1554092 => drush_invoke_process uses 100% CPU => Drush, Base system (internal API), critical, needs review, 2 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [05:09:24] | <anarcat> | wtf |
| [05:09:44] | <darthsteven> | not sure how Drush 5 was released with that issue, but there we go |
| [05:10:05] | <darthsteven> | hopefully that'll get fixed soon, I've posted a patch |
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| [05:10:16] | <darthsteven> | I pushed a few other fixes in 6.x-1.x |
| [05:10:41] | <darthsteven> | including my fix for seg-faults/infinite loops when using contexts |
| [05:10:58] | <darthsteven> | hopefully ergonlogic will tell me that it fixed his issue earlier |
| [05:11:04] | <darthsteven> | that's it from me! |
| [05:11:12] | <anarcat> | niiice |
| [05:11:28] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: well, it gave a more useful error message, but in the end it was a case of PEBKAC |
| [05:11:29] | <anarcat> | you could mention you singlehandedly released yet another awesome aegir release? :) |
| [05:11:46] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: most of those are PEBKAC, the idea is exactly to give a useful error message :) |
| [05:11:56] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: wasn't that the week before :) |
| [05:12:01] | <ergonlogic> | then the patch worked worderfully! |
| [05:12:03] | * anarcat out of it ;) |
| [05:12:05] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: can we chat afterward? |
| [05:12:14] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: of course |
| [05:12:16] | <darthsteven> | next! |
| [05:12:19] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic? |
| [05:12:25] | <ergonlogic> | ok |
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| [05:12:47] | <ergonlogic> | well, I updated api.aegirproject.org today with the new branches and such |
| [05:12:55] | <ergonlogic> | thanks for the poke darthsteven |
| [05:13:05] | <ergonlogic> | I'd been meaning to do that for awhile |
| [05:13:40] | <ergonlogic> | otherwise falling a little too deep doe the rabbit hole of Drush development |
| [05:14:16] | <anarcat> | oh boy :) |
| [05:14:19] | <ergonlogic> | I'd love to see provision's context stuff split off into it's own extension |
| [05:14:31] | <ergonlogic> | as I'm rolling my own aliases fro drush-vagrant |
| [05:14:55] | <ergonlogic> | and I tried to grok how to add a new context type |
| [05:15:05] | <ergonlogic> | but well, I couldn't |
| [05:15:25] | <ergonlogic> | and a dependency on provision seemed a little steep |
| [05:15:42] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, that's most of it for me |
| [05:16:01] | <ergonlogic> | oh, I also noticed that there isn;t a drush 5 git branch |
| [05:16:17] | <ergonlogic> | everything is going into master |
| [05:17:02] | <anarcat> | i am not sure that drush 6 devel has started |
| [05:17:08] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: did you moshe's response: http://drupal.org/node/1554762 |
| [05:17:09] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1554762 => Clarify git branches => Drush, Miscellaneous, normal, fixed, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [05:17:31] | <ergonlogic> | just saw it now |
| [05:17:42] | <anarcat> | wtf |
| [05:17:53] | <anarcat> | how can the releases be any different if they are on the same branch? |
| [05:18:48] | <ergonlogic> | everything goes into drush 5 until they have to break the API? |
| [05:18:54] | <ergonlogic> | hmm, ok |
| [05:19:45] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [05:19:47] | <anarcat> | you done ergonlogic ? |
| [05:19:50] | <ergonlogic> | yep |
| [05:19:52] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: you next? |
| [05:20:05] | <omega8cc> | I have fixed a few issues in the Nginx config and made it compatible with 1.1.8 and later, so also 1.2.0, on the fly |
| [05:20:12] | <omega8cc> | Also, I have discovered this new critical, which caused enough wtf issues (broken configs) on hostmaster upgrade for Nginx users in the past: http://drupal.org/node/1552430 |
| [05:20:13] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1552430 => Hostmaster upgrade/migrate doesn't update @server_master drush alias and web server config files => Provision, Code, critical, needs review, 8 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [05:20:22] | <omega8cc> | And that's it from me, today. |
| [05:20:49] | <anarcat> | mind if i prod you for the debian package? :) |
| [05:21:01] | <anarcat> | where is the development happening? |
| [05:21:15] | <anarcat> | also, i have given you autoop here, since well, you are core now :) |
| [05:21:19] | <omega8cc> | hah, still in the works |
| [05:21:24] | <omega8cc> | ah |
| [05:21:30] | <omega8cc> | thanks :) |
| [05:21:59] | <omega8cc> | and "still in the works" means no progress, in this case :/ |
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| [05:22:06] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [05:22:23] | <anarcat> | well, if you would push your work somewhere, people could jump in and give a hand... |
| [05:22:35] | <anarcat> | i'd certainly be curious to see the work |
| [05:22:36] | <omega8cc> | sure, will doo |
| [05:23:01] | <omega8cc> | this week, promise :) |
| [05:23:16] | <omega8cc> | we also need this, finally |
| [05:23:33] | <omega8cc> | so chances are it will happen |
| [05:24:04] | <anarcat> | awesome |
| [05:24:12] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i commented on that loop bug |
| [05:24:26] | <anarcat> | i think that is all for our scrum |
| [05:24:37] | <anarcat> | unless there are other additions, i think we'll wrap it up here |
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| [05:25:27] | <darthsteven> | that is all |
| [05:25:45] | <anarcat> | i'll paste this in the site |
| [05:25:59] | <darthsteven> | thanks |
| [05:26:54] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: that patch |
| [05:26:59] | <darthsteven> | did it work? |
| [05:27:03] | <anarcat> | hefring: log bookmark? |
| [05:27:03] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-04-30#T201867 |
| [05:27:04] | <darthsteven> | and what did it do for you? |
| [05:28:08] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: well, I just updated to 6.x-1.x and instead of a segfault, I got a useful error message |
| [05:28:19] | <darthsteven> | amazing! |
| [05:28:38] | <ergonlogic> | actually, two error messages iirc |
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| [05:29:12] | <ergonlogic> | but it turned out that I had the wrong platform alias for a provision-save of a site alias |
| [05:29:44] | <ergonlogic> | and iirc the error put me on the right track |
| [05:29:52] | <darthsteven> | perfect |
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| [05:45:32] | <mvc> | useful error messages++ |
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| [05:53:46] | <darthsteven> | that's what I was going for, less magic, more predictable failure |
| [06:01:04] | <theMusician> | I just verified a server and it failed. This worked prior to the 1.8 upgrade. Upon verify, the apache.conf file is generated as blank and actually copies to the live server. That was a bummer. Any other reports of this? |
| [06:02:02] | <theMusician> | I tried this with a separate server, and the same thing happened. I am looking through drush @server_servername provision-verify --backend 2>&1 --debug for any telling output. |
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| [06:05:41] | <wamilton> | theMusician: I've been experiencing an issue where the /var/aegir/config/apache.conf symlink is being pointed to the wrong server apache.conf |
| [06:05:51] | <wamilton> | theMusician: is that what is happening for you? |
| [06:06:36] | <theMusician> | wamilton: No the symlink is pointing to the proper apache.conf file except the apache.conf file is being created as a blank file. |
| [06:06:50] | <wamilton> | theMusician: this is on your aegir box? |
| [06:06:54] | <theMusician> | wamilton: this is the output of the log. http://pastebin.com/MEKnK98T |
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| [06:07:41] | <theMusician> | wamilton: yes, when I execute the verify task for a server, it creates a blank apache.conf file and then rsyncs that to the remote. |
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| [06:09:03] | <theMusician> | wamilton: Upon failure it puts the following in the human readable log, "The external command could not be executed due to an application error." which is usually related to a db issue, but it doesn't seem like it here. |
| [06:09:47] | <wamilton> | theMusician: yeah, I would think that this is moreso due to an edgecase where it fails to fail where it ought to |
| [06:10:28] | <wamilton> | theMusician: eg, it's supposed to read from something but doesn't and just goes right ahead and creates empty config |
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| [06:11:00] | <wamilton> | theMusician: can you show the alias for the server you're trying to verify? |
| [06:11:11] | <theMusician> | wamilton: yeah, which is a bummer. 1.0 - 1.7 never had this issue. I am thinking it has to do with the 1.8 upgrade. |
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| [06:11:23] | <theMusician> | wamilton: show the alias where? |
| [06:12:10] | <wamilton> | cat /var/aegir/.drush/server_yourserver<tab> |
| [06:13:49] | <theMusician> | yes, would you like me to paste that somewhere? |
| [06:14:01] | <wamilton> | yeah, we can pm or whatever |
| [06:14:18] | <wamilton> | pastebin also fine |
| [06:14:20] | <theMusician> | ok, let me sanitize the pwords |
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| [06:17:43] | <theMusician> | wamilton: I don't see anything that appears out of sorts. |
| [06:19:12] | <wamilton> | theMusician: I wonder why the array key and the hostname disagree? |
| [06:19:15] | <drakythe> | Any ideas on what could suddenly cause site clones to fail with this error "Failed to extract the contents of /var/aegir/platforms/platform/etc/... to @target (The file could not be extracted)" ? It was working as little as 2 hours ago... |
| [06:20:42] | <theMusician> | wamilton: I think I know why, but let me check another server aliases first. |
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| [06:22:10] | <wamilton> | drakythe: version? |
| [06:22:12] | <theMusician> | wamilton: yeah, the alias key and the hostnames are different because we changed our naming scheme. However, the verify worked in 1.6 and 1.7. |
| [06:22:32] | <drakythe> | wamilton: 1 |
| [06:22:43] | <theMusician> | drakythe: is this from a backup? |
| [06:22:43] | <drakythe> | 1.6* of Aegir, D7 |
| [06:23:25] | <drakythe> | theMusician: Nope, just cloning a site we're using as the control for some dev work. We've been cloning it all weekend/day whenever we needed to test something, now its suddently failing with that error |
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| [06:24:45] | <theMusician> | drakythe: can you verify the site? |
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| [06:25:14] | <wamilton> | drakythe: are you cloning it to the same platform to which you have been cloning this whole time? |
| [06:25:20] | <drakythe> | wamilton: yes |
| [06:25:27] | <drakythe> | theMusician: running verify now, I'll let you know |
| [06:25:34] | <theMusician> | wamilton: comparing the server aliases of a server that has had verify ran since the 1.8 upgrade and prior to yield no differences. They appear the same. |
| [06:27:25] | <drakythe> | theMusician: It verified just fine |
| [06:27:44] | <theMusician> | drakythe: Just to humor me, can you try the clone again? |
| [06:29:10] | <drakythe> | theMusician: Certianly, when it actually verifies. Realizied I ran verify on the wrong site >.> |
| [06:29:20] | * drakythe winces D'oh! |
| [06:29:23] | <theMusician> | drakythe: doy, it happens |
| [06:30:39] | <wamilton> | theMusician: so, when you run the verify, do you already have the apache config generated and everything? does it actually get blanked by the verify? |
| [06:32:08] | <theMusician> | wamilton: Yes. Upon verify, the .conf file is blanked. I can even manually put the contents in it, run verify, it is blanked and pushes that blank file to the remote host rendering all hosted sites inaccessible. It is a bummer of an issue. |
| [06:32:50] | <theMusician> | wamilton: That pastebin doesn't seem to be the same results from actually pressing the Verify button. Does anyone know that provision command? |
| [06:33:02] | <wamilton> | provision-verify |
| [06:33:26] | <theMusician> | wamilton: yes, but then what. $drush provision-verify @server_servername ? |
| [06:33:54] | <drakythe> | theMusician: Verified fine. Clone failed |
| [06:34:07] | <wamilton> | theMusician: when you're using an alias, you always go `drush @alias drush-command-to-use-with-that-alias` |
| [06:34:07] | <drakythe> | theMusician: same error |
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| [06:34:47] | <theMusician> | drakythe: what is the full error output by the log? |
| [06:34:53] | <wamilton> | theMusician: it can be confusing because when you invoke `drush provision-save @alias` the '@alias' is actually just a literal string you're using as an argument with no alias in use |
| [06:35:42] | <drakythe> | Running: gunzip -c /var/aegir/backups/vendors.aegir4.worxco.net-20120430.153302.tar.gz | tar pxf - in /var/aegir/platforms/vendors-7.x-1.6/sites/pleasework.aegir4.worxco.net |
| [06:35:42] | <drakythe> | Failed to extract the contents of /var/aegir/platforms/vendors-7.x-1.6/sites/pleasework.aegir4.worxco.net to @target (The file could not be extracted) |
| [06:35:49] | <drakythe> | theMusician: ^ |
| [06:36:04] | <wamilton> | drakythe: can you actually do that command as the aegir user? |
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| [06:38:41] | <drakythe> | wamilton: lemme try real quick |
| [06:39:21] | <wamilton> | drakythe: this is just wild speculation, but it could be that the fact that it's even using an alias like @target could mean that it failed to load the right alias |
| [06:40:14] | <drakythe> | wamilton: Would clearning Aegir's cache help, perhaps? |
| [06:40:18] | <theMusician> | drakythe: make sure the file exists there as well. |
| [06:42:44] | <drakythe> | theMusician: It would appear that backup file does not actually exist |
| [06:43:07] | <drakythe> | theMusician: ... |
| [06:43:15] | <drakythe> | theMusician: it looks like we ran out of disk space |
| [06:43:44] | <theMusician> | wamilton: http://pastebin.com/rB2nt1eZ is the actual output of provision-verify for the server |
| [06:44:20] | <theMusician> | drakythe: shucks, that is a bummer. I believe each time aegir clones it makes a backup in /var/aegir. Clean that directory out if possible and I bet you have tons of space. |
| [06:45:13] | <theMusician> | wamilton: it is really confused about my live production server and our human resources development server |
| [06:45:21] | <theMusician> | wamilton: lines 8 and 10 |
| [06:46:30] | <drakythe> | theMusician: Any idea why Aegir doesn't clean that directory? I mean hell, even a weakly basis cleaning would fix this issue for us |
| [06:47:03] | <wamilton> | drakythe: because most of the devs who work on this are experienced with rotation issues and just have some way they already handle it ;) |
| [06:47:53] | <drakythe> | wamilton: If I had a nickel for anytime my problem would be solved by being "experienced" I'd probably have enough to pay someone to pass that experience on... *sigh* |
| [06:48:00] | <drakythe> | Well, now I know :) |
| [06:48:01] | <wamilton> | theMusician: do you actually have an alias '@server_servername' because that would be weird... |
| [06:48:16] | <wamilton> | drakythe: that's the nature of open source homey |
| [06:50:11] | <drakythe> | wamilton: indeed |
| [06:52:12] | <theMusician> | drakythe: this is pretty good too, https://drupal.org/node/1397798 |
| [06:52:35] | <theMusician> | drakythe: hopefully the checkbox makes it into 2.x |
| [06:52:48] | <drakythe> | theMusician: that would be glorious |
| [06:53:51] | <theMusician> | drakythe: here here |
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| [06:54:34] | <drakythe> | theMusician: wamilton: just for confirmation. Disk space was the issue. My clone now goes through without a problem. Thanks :D |
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| [06:57:13] | <theMusician> | wamilton: yeah, running the provision-verify by hand causes the same issue. I am going through the debug output now. |
| [06:59:51] | <wamilton> | theMusician: I'm still curious: why do you have a server named 'servername' ? |
| [07:00:12] | <theMusician> | wamilton: Oh, I just changed our actual server name to that in the log output |
| [07:02:12] | <theMusician> | wamilton: http://pastebin.com/G26wmfDA checkout line 163. I believe it is deleting the existing apache.conf file and then sending the blank one. I'm going to look at the template referenced on line 161. |
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| [07:08:41] | <theMusician> | wamilton: I found it. My git patch for allowing SSLs with SANs didn't modify the server.tpl.php file properly. The new file for 1.8 perhaps changed? I'll have to review my git patchs for this. Thank you for helping me properly debug with the alias! |
| [07:09:08] | <wamilton> | theMusician: happy to help, glad you learned how to fish! |
| [07:09:50] | <theMusician> | wamilton: Yeah, deep sea fishing. |
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| [09:32:55] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: is there any way to disable JS aggregation on Barracuda? |
| [09:33:22] | <realityloop> | it's breaking the site for anon users on one of our sites |
| [09:33:35] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: yes |
| [09:33:53] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: advagg? |
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| [09:34:37] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: I still don't get why it would break for anon.. but not for authenticated users |
| [09:35:31] | <omega8cc> | you can turn it off either in local.settings.php or /data/conf/override.global.inc |
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| [09:36:19] | <omega8cc> | or use advagg to disable automatically if this is d6 site |
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| [09:44:33] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thanks |
| [09:44:58] | <omega8cc> | np |
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