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[13:42:59]<rovo>Do you guys have any recommendations for best practices for SEO when hosting sites through Aegir?
[13:43:53]<rovo>For instance, the way I have my setup now, I think Google is indexing my sites from too many different URLs, the main URL, plus the aegir dev URLs
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[13:59:11]<mig5>rovo: enable redirection on your production site so all aliases redirect to the main url. and use the http auth contrib feature over your dev site to prevent crawlers. https://github.com/computerminds/aegir_http_basic
[14:15:15]<rovo>mig5: I had to disable my redirect and global redirect modules
[14:15:48]<rovo>I would get a warning message that my site was in an infinite loop, and so the homepage was no longer accessible, just the admin
[14:16:42]<mig5>probably the main name of the site is not the same as the URL your modules were redirecting to
[14:18:02]<rovo>so, yes... I had setup the site in aegir as d17.sitename.com ...then added Domain Aliases as sitename.com and www.sitename.com
[14:18:10]<rovo>I'm pretty sure this is where my problem is
[14:18:24]<mig5>yep
[14:18:44]<mig5>i'd have run the Migrate task and renamed the site in the process by editing the name of the site in the migrate form
[14:18:51]<rovo>ok
[14:18:57]<mig5>or, if d17.sitename.com suggests it was a dev site til then, i'd have cloned the site to www.sitename.com
[14:19:04]<mig5>and then i'd still have the dev site to hack on
[14:19:17]<rovo>ah ok
[14:19:33]<rovo>so, in order to do this, i will need to remove the domain aliases I have setup on the dev site
[14:19:48]<mig5>you can still do this, but you'd have to remove the sitename.com / www.sitename.com aliases temporarily, and this would put the site offline while you did it
[14:19:52]<mig5>snap
[14:19:52]<mig5>yep
[14:19:59]<rovo>ok
[14:20:01]<rovo>i see
[14:20:06]<rovo>i will try to do that then
[14:22:19]<rovo>To say I am on Aegir 6.x-1.3 is the same as saying I am on version 1.3 ?
[14:22:30]<rovo>Just trying to figure out my upgrade path
[14:30:37]<rho>This isn't directly aegir related, but I'm working through setting up makefiles outlined here http://mig5.net/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-version-control-dru...
[14:31:23]<rho>all is really well and I love the setup, but I'm puzzling over how best to structure my git repos for the custom work
[14:31:54]<rho>I'd love to keep all of our custom modules for a platform in the same repo, but I'm unsure how to inform the makefile of it
[14:32:12]<rho>it seems that it would want each of the module / themes to be their own repo
[14:32:41]<rho>I feel like I'm overlooking something, or am just woefully uninformed about makefiles and git
[14:33:47]<rho>I guess the question is, is it best practice to keep all custom modules/themes in their own repo for the make file to pull from
[14:33:53]<rho>or is there a way to consolidate them
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[14:37:36]<rovo>mig5: the clone worked! yeah :)
[14:38:07]<rovo>I feel like I'm finally driving on the right side of the road
[14:44:16]<rovo>does that aegir_http_basic work for pure nginx servers?
[14:44:29]<rovo>seems apache dependent
[14:46:39]<mig5>yeah apache specific. no nginx http auth feature exists to my knowledge
[14:48:03]<mig5>actually it has nginx config in it
[14:48:12]<mig5>https://github.com/computerminds/aegir_http_basic/blob/master/provision/... lines 94 to 112
[14:48:17]<mig5>nice.
[14:50:11]<rovo>interesting
[14:50:16]<rovo>so i better give it a whirl
[14:51:52]<mig5>might need this patch https://github.com/computerminds/aegir_http_basic/issues/4
[14:53:33]<rovo>mig5: alright sir
[14:54:13]<rovo>i might want to upgrade my aegir before trying this
[14:55:09]<mig5>generally a good idea, the last update included security updates :)
[15:03:16]<rovo>mig5: instead of using that http_basic_auth is there another way I can block out access to those dev sites, on nginx?
[15:03:37]<rovo>just trying to keep them from getting crawled and indexed
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[15:07:53]<mig5>you could just edit the robots.txt and set User-Agent * Disallow /
[15:08:00]<mig5>or move your dev sites onto a separate server and firewall it
[15:08:49]<rovo>I am thinking of doing that, but wasn't sure the robots.txt would work out, because I have multiple sites on a platform
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[16:50:15]<hefring>Git => Issue #1597648 by jlscott: Fixed Hosting Queues Summary Block is stale. => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/7f0ea0dc4bb84c40...
[16:50:15]<hefring>Git => Issue #1441970 by jlscott: Fixed Client Block assigned by default to non-existing... => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/556bce13e6f65132...
[16:50:15]<hefring>Git => Fix whitespace in hosting_client.module => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/00d29aca513f0130...
[16:50:31]<hefring>Git => Issue #1441970 by Steven Jones: Fixed Client Block assigned by default to non-existin... => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/2dc523f8bf8a073d...
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[17:51:19]<darthsteven>Silly rackspace
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[18:41:02]<egorovanton>Hi! Guys, when I try migrate to the site from 6.22 on 6.26 i got an error :(
[18:41:08]<egorovanton>The external command could not be executed due to an application error.
[18:41:15]<egorovanton>Drush command terminated abnormally due to an unrecoverable error. Error: Call to undefined function node_types_rebuild() in /usr/share/drush/commands/provision/platform/drupal/clear_6.inc, line 10
[18:41:33]<egorovanton>php_cli memory_limit 256M
[18:41:57]<egorovanton>In what may be the problem?
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[21:46:37]<omega8cc>egorovanton: split this into core-only and the contrib upgrade
[21:46:51]<omega8cc>then*
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[21:51:07]<omega8cc>egorovanton: this error is mentioned also in: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/best-recipes-disaster-and-how-...
[21:52:41]<omega8cc>darthsteven: I will have that machine ready to use this weekend
[21:53:00]<darthsteven>omega8cc: awesome!
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[21:57:56]<omega8cc>darthsteven: correction
[21:58:39]<omega8cc>darthsteven: it is available now, where can I find your public ssh keys?
[21:58:53]<darthsteven>oh amazing!
[21:59:08]<darthsteven>good question
[22:00:09]<darthsteven>http://pastebin.com/nkFSHtVp
[22:00:38]<omega8cc>thanks
[22:00:39]<omega8cc>btw
[22:00:40]<darthsteven>We'll need to add the Jenkins keys at some stage but I can do that
[22:01:08]<omega8cc>do we need more than 2 extra IPs there for VM instances?
[22:01:40]<omega8cc>there are 2 IPs available to use (besides main IP of the machine)
[22:03:00]<omega8cc>it has VServer kernel and tools installed right now, but feel free to install anything you need
[22:05:01]<omega8cc>darthsteven: pm?
[22:05:04]<darthsteven>sure
[22:09:52]<darthsteven>omega8cc++
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[22:43:10]<egorovanton>omega8cc Thx!!!
[22:44:17]<omega8cc>egorovanton: np
[22:45:31]<egorovanton>np = no problems? (I am Russian and my English so so :) )
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[23:16:22]<omega8cc>egorovanton: yes, it means either "no problem" or "You're welcome!" depending on the context
[23:17:14]<egorovanton>ok :)
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[23:22:25]<egorovanton>guys, if i would create ssh or ftp user (Local linux user) to use shell_exec it is correctly security way or shit? I plan to use sudo linux command to use that function. What think about this way?
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[01:27:48]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: hi, I see you're testing Aegir in Vagrant
[01:28:38]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: aegir-up & drush_vagrant were built explicitely for that purpose
[01:29:21]<ergonlogic>admittedly, they still need some work
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[01:33:59]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: yup yup, just wanted to very quickly test vagrant + jenkins and the new machine that omega8cc has provided
[01:34:09]<darthsteven>which has raised an interesting issue
[01:34:30]<ergonlogic>oh?
[01:35:07]<darthsteven>The vagrant Jenkins plugin doesn't like running on slave servers
[01:35:19]<darthsteven>and apparently it's a problem actually in Jenkins
[01:35:22]<darthsteven>so
[01:35:28]<darthsteven>we either move Jenkins
[01:35:36]<darthsteven>or we don't use the vagrant plugin
[01:35:41]<darthsteven>which would be sad I think
[01:35:58]<omega8cc>darthsteven: there is csf /lfd running you may want to stop until configured for your needs
[01:36:06]<ergonlogic>fwiw, the vagrant plugin is redundant is you use drush_vagrant
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[01:36:15]<omega8cc>darthsteven: I mean: csf -x
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[01:36:43]<darthsteven>omega8cc: csf -x ?
[01:36:52]<omega8cc>to stop firewall
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[01:37:30]<omega8cc>maybe you can't connect because it is running?
[01:37:41]<darthsteven>no, the server is fine
[01:37:44]<darthsteven>and I can connect
[01:37:48]<omega8cc>k
[01:37:51]<darthsteven>and so can Jenkins
[01:38:08]<omega8cc>then it is not csf causing issues
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[01:38:17]<darthsteven>but Jenkins has a fundamental problem with running ruby based plugins on slave servers
[01:38:24]<darthsteven>the issue is Jenkins
[01:38:29]<omega8cc>ah
[01:38:32]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: yeah, there are many options
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[01:40:01]<darthsteven>I have confirmed that the machine can run vagrant, which is ace
[01:40:11]<darthsteven>so we at least can think and plan our transition
[01:40:28]<darthsteven>I will post an issue in the queue in a bit
[01:40:41]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: you may want to check that it can support 64-bit guest OSs
[01:40:59]<darthsteven>done :)
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[01:44:21]<ergonlogic>I'm still actively working on drush_vagrant, so it's probably not a great candidate solution at this point
[01:45:03]<ergonlogic>but it should be able to work in parallel with the jenkins vagrant stuff, so we could transition some time down the road
[01:47:14]<ergonlogic>apart from the extra work involved, is there a reason not to move jenkins to the new server?
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[02:26:13]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: not really, but then the only thing left on that server is the debian packages, so do we move the hosting of those too, etc.
[02:26:33]<anarcat>hi
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[02:36:17]<darthsteven>anarcat: hi!
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[03:15:45]<darthsteven>mig5, omega8cc, anarcat: Your thoughts on http://drupal.org/node/1599076 would be most welcome
[03:15:46]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1599076 => Use Vagrant for the testing => Hostmaster (Aegir), Jenkins, major, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:15:51]<darthsteven>when you have a minute
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[03:25:36]<omega8cc>darthsteven, mig5, anarcat: I didn't try/compare doing this with Vagrant, and have no idea if Jenkins could use existing on this machine VServer setup (why not, it is simple), but provisioning VServer based guest from local image is just one command and takes seconds, or maybe there are better reasons to use Vagrant instead, I don't know
[03:27:36]<omega8cc>oh, why not to comment on the issue
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[04:07:12]<eft>anarcat: wild times in Montreal. You in the thick of it?
[04:07:38]<anarcat>i refuse to answer on the grounds it could incriminate me ;)
[04:10:37]<eft>I see Vertice left devseed (but not to return to Aegir :( )
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[05:34:31]<kepford>"Vanilla Standard"? Latest Octopus update? omega8cc
[05:35:32]<omega8cc>?
[05:35:37]<omega8cc>http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/CHANGELOG.txt#l200
[05:38:07]<omega8cc>kepford: both D7 and D8 use the same names for profiles, so we can't use D7 or D8 specific naming, as the machine name is the same and it would display randomly D8 human readable name for D7 profiles and vice-versa, hence the unified naming for all 3 profiles in D7 and D8
[05:38:45]<kepford>Ah. Makes sense. I like Vanilla.
[05:38:58]<omega8cc>and the Vanilla means they are core-only and pressflow-free ;)
[05:39:06]<omega8cc>:)
[05:40:48]<omega8cc>well, D7 have o_contrib_seven added, but they are vanilla core profiles
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[05:46:02]<omega8cc>eft: yeah: http://daemon.co.za/2012/04/ending-an-era-on-high-note/
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[06:16:29]<eft>omega8cc: Thanks. I don't know about "I won?t have anyone else?s legacy systems to maintain..."
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[06:40:55]<omega8cc>eft: Vertice is very proud of his child Aegir and the community and current devs/maintainers and I wouldn't expect him to return to Aegir, it is the past for him already and it is fine
[06:41:29]<darthsteven>log pointer?
[06:41:38]<darthsteven>hefring: log pointer?
[06:41:39]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-05-24#T216347
[06:45:23]<hefring>Git => Fix whitespace in hosting_client.module => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/8850fc5173ee830a...
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[07:26:07]<eft>omega8cc: I wasn't trying to suggest Vertice would reverse course or that the current Aegir community is less than fantastic.
[07:27:10]<mike_thc>I've just created a new platform and it spawned a site, bot were verified ok but the site's layout is broken, i guess its a very usual issue for aegir newbs but can find a solution, somewhere i was told to use AdvAgg but its only for D6, sb has a link for me please? Im hosted at omega8 cc
[07:27:25]<eft>omega8cc: my reference to his comment on legacy systems was more that he may be starting from scratch with his new venture
[07:28:25]<eft>but it's still going to be built on code maintained by others i.e. node.js and related tools
[07:30:26]<omega8cc>eft: I know, my re: was to yours "I see Vertice left devseed (but not to return to Aegir)" :) while that bit about legacy systems is probably another story, not really related in this context, imo
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[07:32:07]<omega8cc>you are always going to use some tools and rely on them, but tools and legacy systems are two different things, especially when legacy == too much problems
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[07:33:36]<eft>I think we are on same page :)
[07:34:39]<omega8cc>yep :)
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[07:38:13]<mike_thc>any tips on how to fix broken layout for newly installed drupal 7 sites on omega8cc ?
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[07:40:21]<omega8cc>mike_thc: if that is on our hosted Aegir service then my tip is to use omega8.cc/support so our staff will be able to check this and help you
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[07:42:28]<mike_thc>omega8cc: oh thanks, actually i though it was a common issue as it's described in http://omega8.cc/speed-booster-cache-boost-and-advagg-108#advagg but the proposed solutions are using advagg (for d6 only) or disabling cache and/or speedbooster
[07:43:11]<mike_thc>im going to support again, they are quick to help
[07:43:19]<omega8cc>mike_thc: for debugging there are useful shortcuts
[07:43:36]<omega8cc>like adding ?nocache=1 to disable speed booster
[07:43:53]<omega8cc>or ?noredis=1 to disable Redis cache
[07:43:57]<omega8cc>on the fly
[07:44:17]<omega8cc>so you don't need to create and use dev. alias for quick debugging
[07:44:35]<omega8cc>dev. alias is still useful when you need to debug wsod etc
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[07:46:41]<mike_thc>neither nocache nor noredis fixed mine... the site is brand new on a recently cloned platform, verifying site and platform does not throw errors and the site is functioning but the css is broken i think i need to update references or recreate this aggregated or cached files
[07:47:23]<omega8cc>mike_thc: the drush cc all will not always delete aggregated files
[07:47:31]<omega8cc>mike_thc: try to remove them manually
[07:48:14]<omega8cc>mike_thc: advagg for 7.x should be available soon, btw
[07:49:28]<omega8cc>mike_thc: also, while dev. disables aggregation on the fly, you can disable it also on d7 site by uploading advagg, even not enabled
[07:49:49]<omega8cc>but first try to delete the files
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[07:51:36]<mike_thc>the source code say its trying to load aggregated css file from <link media="all" href="http://beta0.example.com/" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> no wonder it cannot find a css at this location
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[08:00:50]<MFawzy>how can I hook into the e-mail being sent to the "admin" users after site provisioning ?? :)
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[08:01:22]<MFawzy>where does this e-mail originate ?
[08:01:36]<MFawzy>form the new site or from Aegir itself ?
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[08:14:06]<MFawzy>any updates about this http://drupal.org/node/1014142 ??
[08:14:06]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1014142 => Suppress email to client after site provisioned => Provision, Code, normal, active, 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[08:17:23]<MFawzy>hefring, a bot ?
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