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| [12:24:47] | <wamilton> | anarcat: I have some questions about creating a custom .deb to wrap a custom hostmaster profile for deployment of a given Aegir config |
| [12:24:58] | <wamilton> | anarcat: are you game? |
| [12:26:09] | <anarcat> | ask away |
| [12:26:12] | <anarcat> | although i am quite busy now |
| [12:27:15] | <wamilton> | anarcat: fair enough; the doc page references a debian branch but I don't see one for hostmaster |
| [12:28:06] | <wamilton> | anarcat: i.e.: git clone git.drupal...hostmaster.git; git branch -a; strikeout |
| [12:28:09] | <anarcat> | there isn't: everything is built from the provision package |
| [12:29:24] | <wamilton> | anarcat: thanks, cloning into provision |
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| [12:51:13] | <wamilton> | anarcat: right, so I can see the inner workings now. Do you have an opinion on whether it would be easier to patch the hostmaster file in place, build the debian package, and install that way, or to allow the .config script to accept another profile path from debconf? |
| [12:51:40] | <anarcat> | well, it's trivial to replace the makefile right now |
| [12:51:46] | <anarcat> | you don't need another package |
| [12:51:50] | <anarcat> | so i would recommend starting with that |
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| [13:19:14] | <wamilton> | anarcat: right, but I need to make changes to hostmaster.profile so that dns will be enabled and a server node will be configured with bind. I don't need to sub out the hostmaster.make |
| [13:21:07] | <anarcat> | sure you do |
| [13:21:15] | <anarcat> | :) |
| [13:21:27] | <anarcat> | trick is to fork hostmaster, not provision |
| [13:21:45] | <anarcat> | you create your own branch of hostmaster, based on a release tag so it's easier to follow, and you do your thing |
| [13:21:56] | <anarcat> | ideally, install profiles should be inheritable |
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| [13:34:23] | <wamilton> | anarcat: so, if I look through the debian dir in provision, it will be clear to me how it is referencing the hostmaster repo? |
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| [18:48:40] | <mengi> | hi all. I am attempting to install Aegir on a VirtualBox of Ubuntu 12.04 but when I get to step "installing the Aegir frontend (Drupal with hostmaster profile) please wait.." it just hangs and doesn't progress any further. Does anyone have a idea why this is happening? |
| [18:49:04] | <mengi> | quick note, i installed mysql-server beforehand and ran the 'mysql_secure_installation' command per the documents |
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| [18:54:55] | <lolmaus> | How do i set the mysql root password for Aegir to use? |
| [18:56:58] | <mengi> | lolmaus: it should ask you to set the root password during the aegir installation |
| [18:57:48] | <lolmaus> | mengi, it did. For some reason, the password is being rejected now, i have to redefine it (original password works). |
| [18:57:59] | <mengi> | if you didn't set a password, type 'sudo mysql_secure_installation' |
| [19:00:47] | <lolmaus> | mengi, the password for mysql is set and is working. I want to tell Aegir to use this password. |
| [19:01:29] | <mengi> | is aegir already installed? |
| [19:01:47] | <lolmaus> | mengi, yes. |
| [19:02:52] | <mengi> | hmm, i didn't think you could install aegir without it having root access to mysql.. |
| [19:03:30] | <lolmaus> | mengi, it HAD mysql access and had been working perfectly. But now it says " SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) " |
| [19:03:47] | <lolmaus> | I dunno why, i just tested the old password manually and it's been accepted |
| [19:04:30] | <mengi> | lolmaus, ok thats strange then |
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| [19:09:47] | <mengi> | lolmaus, try resetting the mysql password |
| [19:10:07] | <lolmaus> | It's an Aegir issue, not MySQL |
| [19:15:07] | <mengi> | lolmaus, did you use a special character in the password? |
| [19:15:54] | <lolmaus> | mengi, nope |
| [19:20:53] | <lolmaus> | mengi, i've found that the password can be re-specified in Aegir's web interface. And now it works! ^_^ |
| [19:21:50] | <mengi> | lolmaus, great!! thought i found it here: http://drupal.org/node/1348476 |
| [19:21:51] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1348476 => AEGIR server verify failure - unable to connect to mysql db => 3 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [19:23:05] | <mengi> | lolmaus, glad you found the answer =) |
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| [23:41:06] | <alfthecat> | Hey everyone. I'm trying to add a new server to Aegir. I'm able to remotely log into mysql and ssh into the machine as well, so I assume my keys are working. When verifying, I get the error (error: Host key verification failed. rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(635) [sender=3.0.3]) |
| [23:41:15] | <alfthecat> | what might I be missing? |
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| [23:50:19] | <alfthecat> | hmmm I'm trying to login as the aegir user now, but I'm prompted for a password. Is that correct, because I haven't set any passwords for Aegir |
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| [23:53:45] | <lunatico> | if your keys are set correctly you shouldn't be asked for a password |
| [23:54:12] | <lunatico> | it could ask you to enter your passphrase - if you did set one when generating your keys |
| [23:55:13] | <alfthecat> | ok, I'm trying to create and copy a new set of keys as the Aegir user this time. When I issue the copy command, I get the question for a password again |
| [23:55:26] | <lunatico> | that's ok |
| [23:55:57] | <lunatico> | set a password for aegir user at remote server |
| [23:56:09] | <lunatico> | you will use it only this time |
| [23:56:21] | <alfthecat> | ok |
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| [00:03:19] | <alfthecat> | weird, i can't change the password for Aegir. As root, I type passwd aegir and I get prompted for the 'current UNIX password'. There is none, and hitting enter or entering a new password fails |
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| [00:04:40] | <alfthecat> | nevermind, my mistake |
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| [00:11:46] | <alfthecat> | Ok, I'm no longer asked for a password now. I can login via ssh to my new server as the aegir user. Verifying the server still fails though, with the same error. |
| [00:12:51] | <alfthecat> | On the mysql front though, I'm wondering, per instructions on community.aegir.org I have issued the following query: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO root@aegir_server_IP but shouldnt it be GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO AEGIR@aegir_server_IP ? |
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| [00:59:47] | <alfthecat> | seem to be getting ahead. Problem was the IP was added to the known_hosts but not the hostname. ssh-ing into the new server with the hostname fixed that. Now its verifying.... for a while.... is it ok for it to take a while |
| [01:00:09] | <alfthecat> | ? |
| [01:06:46] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: is it still going? |
| [01:06:53] | <alfthecat> | yes it is |
| [01:07:30] | <wamilton> | and you are running provision-verify from the cli or verifying from the Aegir front end? |
| [01:07:40] | <alfthecat> | aegir frontend |
| [01:07:49] | <alfthecat> | its running now for 17+ minutes |
| [01:09:11] | <alfthecat> | I haven't installed drush on the new server, the instructions didnt mention it. Could that be it? |
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| [01:14:14] | <wamilton> | ok, so you're verifying a new server and it is a remote server? |
| [01:14:48] | <alfthecat> | yeah thats correct |
| [01:14:48] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: I ask only because you can create multiple server nodes in Aegir that reference the same hardware |
| [01:15:15] | <alfthecat> | ok, no its a new server, can ssh remotely onto it, and i can connect remotely to mysql too |
| [01:15:23] | <alfthecat> | all seems well on that end |
| [01:15:28] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: if you refresh the page, is the throbber still going? |
| [01:15:48] | <alfthecat> | yeah, its also still counting the minutes its been running so it seems responsive |
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| [01:17:00] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: if you view the task, is there anything after 'running php /path/to/drush/drush.php @server_myserver provision-verify....' ? |
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| [01:17:53] | <alfthecat> | no, provision-verify --backend 2>&1 is the last line |
| [01:20:45] | <alfthecat> | I must mention though, I'm still on aegir 1.6. Don't know if that makes much of a difference but I know a few things were changed in later release with the introduction of server packs |
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| [01:28:32] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: that's probably not the issue; I've definitely used 1.6 without this problem |
| [01:30:17] | <alfthecat> | yeah i figured but just to be safe :). Do you think it will serve any purpose to let the task carry on or should i try to delete the task and run it again? It's been boiling for 40 minutes now |
| [01:30:42] | <wamilton> | I would start over at this point |
| [01:30:47] | <alfthecat> | ok |
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| [01:38:44] | <alfthecat> | same thing again. keeps throbbing |
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| [02:06:49] | <alfthecat> | on the node form of the server, should I check 'cluster'? I'm not sure what those settings do |
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| [02:13:28] | <hefring> | community => Installing 3rd party Aegir services (specifically this Solr one I found on github) => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/installing-3rd-party-aegir-ser... |
| [02:14:50] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: have you been able to create and verify a server node with no custom services whatsoever? |
| [02:15:20] | <alfthecat> | no this is the first time I'm adding a server, and the first time I've ever tried verifying one |
| [02:17:12] | <alfthecat> | I'm now trying to verify with no srevices checked but it also keeps verifying without result. Before there were erros with the keys but those are all solved. At that time, verification failed so it looks like all those issues are tackled |
| [02:18:02] | <wamilton> | ok, if this goes forever as well, you might try ssh'ing into the aegir server and just running the provision-verify command as the aegir user |
| [02:18:18] | <wamilton> | just copy and paste that one-liner from the task view |
| [02:18:38] | <wamilton> | that way you might actually see an error that for some reason isn't making it back to the frontend |
| [02:19:19] | <alfthecat> | ok so what would that command look like? |
| [02:19:47] | <alfthecat> | drush provision-save? |
| [02:19:58] | <wamilton> | where it says 'executing /path/to/drush/drush.php @server_myserver provision-verify... |
| [02:20:23] | <alfthecat> | ok I'm gonna try that now |
| [02:21:12] | <wamilton> | provision-save just creates the drush alias that holds details about the server. If you've saved it once, then you should be fine. It just does that every time because in theory someone could have modified the drush alias in the backend, but you probably want to verify with what's in the front end. |
| [02:22:29] | <alfthecat> | ok, that makes a lot of sense. And I now see an error, "could not open input file: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php". |
| [02:22:54] | <alfthecat> | after issuing /usr/bin/php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php --php='/usr/bin/php' @server_vps23089publiccloudvpscom provision-verify --backend 2>&1 |
| [02:23:02] | <wamilton> | do `which drush` |
| [02:23:16] | <wamilton> | as the aegir user |
| [02:23:19] | <alfthecat> | that returns nothin |
| [02:23:44] | <wamilton> | you've done `su aegir` right? you are sure you're the aegir user? |
| [02:24:30] | <alfthecat> | Yeah, 'whoami' returns 'aegir'. I haven't installed drush on the remote server though, for the instrucitons make no mention of it |
| [02:24:43] | <wamilton> | yeah, they don't, and you shouldn't need to |
| [02:24:49] | <alfthecat> | ok |
| [02:25:01] | <wamilton> | because you're on the machine that is hosting your aegir front end, right? |
| [02:25:26] | <alfthecat> | no the drush command I've issued after I ssh-ed into the new server as the aegir user |
| [02:25:33] | <wamilton> | yeah, that won't work |
| [02:25:39] | <wamilton> | run it from your aegir server |
| [02:26:05] | <alfthecat> | if i issue it as the aegir user on the main aegir server, I get /usr/local/bin/drush |
| [02:26:58] | <wamilton> | ok, can you see if /var/aegir/drush/drush.php exists? |
| [02:27:28] | <alfthecat> | yes that exists |
| [02:28:02] | <wamilton> | ok, the discrepancy shouldn't matter for now; what happens if you run the provision-verify command from there? |
| [02:28:44] | <alfthecat> | you mean cd-ing to that location and ssh-ing into the new server from there, and then paste the previous command? |
| [02:29:08] | <wamilton> | no, literally paste the command and run it as the aegir user on the aegir server |
| [02:29:17] | <wamilton> | does not matter what directory you're in |
| [02:29:34] | <wamilton> | the provision commands abstract away all the ssh'ing for you |
| [02:29:41] | <alfthecat> | ok |
| [02:31:24] | <alfthecat> | when i paste the command in my terminal. my terminal seems to go unresponsive. There is no feedback coming in |
| [02:31:41] | <alfthecat> | check that.... errors |
| [02:32:23] | <wamilton> | sometimes ssh sessions bog down and get sluggish, that's normal, what do you have in the way of errors? |
| [02:33:05] | <alfthecat> | a long one http://pastebin.com/QRs5VkZS |
| [02:34:49] | <wamilton> | ah crap, I should have told you to leave out the `--backend 2>&1` |
| [02:34:54] | <alfthecat> | lol |
| [02:35:07] | <wamilton> | that part literally means 'make this unreadable to humans' |
| [02:35:19] | <alfthecat> | ah! |
| [02:35:50] | <alfthecat> | trying the human form now |
| [02:38:32] | <alfthecat> | ok im only getting a warning now, saying apache could not be restarted. |
| [02:39:18] | <alfthecat> | ill paste the full output on pastebin. one sec |
| [02:39:37] | <wamilton> | ok, you probably don't have things configured right in that regard then; you need to make sure that whatever the restart command you have for http for that server is actually what you're supposed to use, and that the aegir user can actually run it. |
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| [02:39:57] | <wamilton> | did that command complete and did you get a prompt again, though? |
| [02:40:04] | <alfthecat> | ok that might be a !requitty issue |
| [02:40:13] | <alfthecat> | yeah i got a prompt again |
| [02:40:59] | <alfthecat> | just to be thorough here is the output http://pastebin.com/wqYpZndA |
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| [02:43:02] | <wamilton> | you should ssh into the remote box, run visudo as root, and make sure that there is a line saying that the aegir user can run the apache restart command without a password |
| [02:43:06] | <alfthecat> | ok i noticed the sudoers file not containing the aegir part. I've added it now, issued the command again, and I immediatly get returned to the prompt without errors |
| [02:43:15] | <wamilton> | there we go |
| [02:43:19] | <wamilton> | great minds ;) |
| [02:43:51] | <wamilton> | it probably just hung infi because it was on the sudo password prompt |
| [02:43:55] | <alfthecat> | yeah definitely, I would have never thought of this becasue apperently, when visudoing I dodnt correclty save the file |
| [02:44:00] | <wamilton> | you can probably verify it from the front end |
| [02:44:14] | <wamilton> | visudo is weird like that |
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| [02:44:30] | <alfthecat> | yeah it really is |
| [02:45:19] | <alfthecat> | ok waiting now for the verification to start in the front end |
| [02:46:03] | <alfthecat> | I have mysql installed btw, on the new server. I'm a bit confused by the user I have to specify in my Aegir front end. Should that be a user on the aegir site, or the mysql root user on the new server? |
| [02:46:35] | <wamilton> | whatever mysql user you have set up that can create new databases and new users and grant privileges |
| [02:46:50] | <wamilton> | if that happens to be the mysql root user, then yes, that one |
| [02:47:01] | <alfthecat> | great and guess what.... Verification succeeeded!!!!! |
| [02:47:10] | <alfthecat> | I'm so grateful for your help! |
| [02:47:32] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: excellent, have fun! |
| [02:47:42] | <alfthecat> | Oh I will :) |
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| [02:52:07] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: when you have some time, you might want to chase down why the heck you have two drush installs, as that can lead to confusion later depending on which one gets which aegir contrib etc |
| [02:52:58] | <alfthecat> | ok I'll put that on my to-do list. I think it happened by mistake when I installed Aegir. Then the question becomes how dangerous it is to remove one of them |
| [02:53:27] | <alfthecat> | But I want to upgrade Aegir anyway, so maybe I can tackle that then |
| [02:53:51] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: one of the ways we learn is to repeatedly install Aegir |
| [02:54:14] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: that's how I've learned anyway... |
| [02:54:33] | <alfthecat> | yeah, I've been down that road many times but not often enough :) But I have to admint, once I have it up and running I'm always a bit affraid to tinker with it |
| [02:54:52] | <alfthecat> | I attempted and upgrade once and killed it |
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| [02:56:45] | <wamilton> | alfthecat: I've found that it's much easier for me to just spin up a new vagrant box or remote instance and do the debian install from scratch if things get too screwy, but I've done some crazy things unwittingly with custom code, and there was nothing mission critical in there, so I just said screw it |
| [02:58:36] | <alfthecat> | yeah I agree 100%. The best way to learn about systems is to dive in and start plumbing :) This is the first of a few servers I want to add, and with those machines in place I plan to practice all the things I'm currently not too familiar with (such as updating) safely on a fresh machine |
| [02:59:20] | <alfthecat> | But looking back I've come to learn a lot about linux by just using aegir and thats wonderful |
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| [05:36:44] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: fwiw i am trying out a manual nginx install here |
| [05:36:48] | <anarcat> | just to get a feel of the webserver |
| [05:37:06] | <anarcat> | i was surprised to not find any instructions on how to do that in the official install |
| [05:37:09] | <anarcat> | so i added this |
| [05:37:15] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389/revisions/view/3468/3528 |
| [05:41:29] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: there was no php5-fpm in pre-squeeze debian or older ubuntu, hence no how-to, I think |
| [05:41:40] | <anarcat> | i think we can safely assume squeeze now |
| [05:41:46] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
| [05:41:55] | <anarcat> | also, i am happy to see nginx 1.2 in wheezy now (which i am running on this laptop) |
| [05:42:29] | <omega8cc> | and in the meantime it is already 1.3 |
| [05:42:59] | <omega8cc> | plus 1.2.1 |
| [05:44:18] | <anarcat> | well come on, that was released *today* :P |
| [05:44:28] | <omega8cc> | :p |
| [05:44:30] | <anarcat> | 1.3 was released a week ago |
| [05:44:36] | <anarcat> | and i sure hope it doesn't hit unstable |
| [05:45:09] | <anarcat> | it could be uploaded to experimental tho |
| [05:45:20] | <omega8cc> | yeah, still, there are some pretty serious issues fixed, but none affecting default install, afaik |
| [05:45:58] | <anarcat> | in 1.2.1? |
| [05:46:10] | <omega8cc> | and 1.3.1 |
| [05:46:19] | <omega8cc> | for example: "Bugfix: in the ngx_http_fastcgi_module." |
| [05:46:29] | <omega8cc> | no idea what it is about |
| [05:46:40] | <anarcat> | that sucks |
| [05:46:42] | <omega8cc> | they are too cryptic sometimes |
| [05:46:51] | <anarcat> | rather bothersome |
| [05:47:00] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
| [05:47:05] | <anarcat> | i understand that english is not their native tongue tho? |
| [05:47:25] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
| [05:47:34] | <ergonlogic> | mig5: hi, I've got a lead on a project that needs some Aegir expertise with an AWS flavour. Naturally I thought of you, but your site says your booked solid for the foreseeable future. If you're interested, let me know, but otherwise, are there any AWS-specific gotchas I should be aware of? |
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| [05:48:08] | <ergonlogic> | and hi you two :) |
| [05:48:08] | <omega8cc> | but they have an office in the US so probably also some native speakers available |
| [05:48:30] | <omega8cc> | hi ergonlogic :) |
| [05:49:14] | <ergonlogic> | wizonesolutions: 9 |
| [05:49:22] | <ergonlogic> | aaah, sorry |
| [05:49:33] | <ergonlogic> | getting used to a french keyboard |
| [05:50:22] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: one issue to look out for is that the public FQDN of the server can change seemingly at random |
| [05:50:32] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: for ec2 |
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| [05:52:35] | <omega8cc> | Aegir defaults (db server on localhost plus wildcard http) are enough to support AWS out of the box |
| [05:52:51] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: ^^ |
| [05:53:05] | <ergonlogic> | ok, good to know |
| [05:53:13] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: only their default partitions are a bit crazy |
| [05:53:55] | <omega8cc> | so /var is pretty tiny by default |
| [05:54:39] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: the hostname of the server itself? |
| [05:54:40] | <omega8cc> | but I guess this is expected there, and similar at Gandi |
| [05:54:47] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: also, iirc, we had an issue with ssl where you needed to specify the private ip of the server as well as the public |
| [05:54:50] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: yes |
| [05:55:45] | <anarcat> | it's pretty amazing to be editing the install documentation now :) |
| [05:57:02] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: how so? |
| [05:57:12] | <anarcat> | well i don't know, i thought it was perfect or something ;) |
| [05:57:28] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: er... wait, how do you mean? What I'm saying is that we were not able to rely on the public FQDN as the value of the hostname/remote_host/node->title of the server |
| [05:58:36] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: yeah, ok. But we could assign our own domain name independently, and use that, no? |
| [05:59:40] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: yes, that's exactly the fix |
| [06:01:29] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: great :) |
| [06:02:51] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: I'm actually almost finished with a provision extension that provides cloud hosting as a service, so that if you do `drush provision-save @server_myserver --genesis_service_type=ec2 --genesis_client=myclient` and `drush @server_myserver provision-verify` it creates a chef node and provisions it as an aegir slave in the pre-verify |
| [06:03:37] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: it also uses the dns service in aegir to set up an A record based on the chef node name |
| [06:03:38] | <wizonesolutions> | wizonesolutions: Glad to, uhh, help :P |
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| [08:47:06] | <mig5> | ergonlogic: sorry, i actually don't have much AWS experience whatsoever. sounds like you've got some good advice from the others though. good luck :) |
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