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| [22:51:34] | <chriscohen> | hi all - just installed aegir 1.9 via the automatic method on the documentation |
| [22:51:46] | <chriscohen> | however, this installs, and the website just doesn't work |
| [22:52:01] | <chriscohen> | there's nothing in the docs that suggests, for the aegir virtualhost, where the doc root is set |
| [22:52:12] | <chriscohen> | was wondering how to handle that |
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| [22:56:36] | <bgm> | chriscohen: "apache2ctl -S" should show you declared vhosts, and where their config files are |
| [22:57:34] | <chriscohen> | bgm, so the interactive installer asked me for a hostname for the frontend |
| [22:57:47] | <chriscohen> | i gave it the hostname, yet the aegir.conf has hostname default in it |
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| [22:59:09] | <bgm> | chriscohen: check your apache2ctl -S.. you should see a vhost for the hostname you entered for the frontend, it's not in aegir.conf |
| [23:00:12] | <chriscohen> | default server default (/etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf:3) |
| [23:00:14] | <chriscohen> | port 8081 namevhost default (/etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf:3) |
| [23:00:41] | <chriscohen> | bgm i can't see why it's not set up my vhost properly |
| [23:00:59] | <bgm> | chriscohen: that's all you have in there? |
| [23:00:59] | <chriscohen> | ah wait it has, it's just done it on port 80 :S |
| [23:01:15] | <bgm> | why 8081 ? |
| [23:01:52] | <chriscohen> | varnish |
| [23:01:57] | <chriscohen> | :S |
| [23:02:13] | <bgm> | ok |
| [23:03:28] | <chriscohen> | i've updated /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/aegir.example.com |
| [23:03:41] | <chriscohen> | <VirtualHost *:8081> etc |
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| [23:04:24] | <bgm> | those files will get overwritten if you run "verify" on the site/server though |
| [23:04:54] | <bgm> | not sure what's the best way to setup varnish when it's running on the same host |
| [23:07:55] | <chriscohen> | bgm: turns out there's some funky local dns stuff going on on this network |
| [23:08:00] | <chriscohen> | it's not aegir's fault |
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| [00:01:43] | <omega8cc> | messages? |
| [00:01:43] | <hefring> | omega8cc: 1 day 6 hours ago <realityloop> tell omega8cc does Barracuda/BOA configure anything to do with postfix's /etc/aliases.db if so how come there isn't an /etc/aliases file? |
| [00:02:01] | <omega8cc> | hmm |
| [00:05:20] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell realityloop: it was a bug, as it should delete that file only on initial install, to avoid issues with sendmail if installed, which doesn't purge its stuff correctly on remove/purge, see http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/commit/ba4ec3d |
| [00:05:21] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around. |
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| [00:13:44] | <chriscohen> | so, i've set up a platform and created a new site in aegir |
| [00:13:52] | <chriscohen> | this apparently creates a *completely* new site |
| [00:14:10] | <chriscohen> | however, what if we already have a site, complete with themes, modules, etc, in our git repo, and we want to deploy that to aegir? |
| [00:16:40] | <careernerd> | chriscohen: just use your git repo for the platform code, install a site, then import your DB over the one it created |
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| [00:16:54] | <Pomliane> | chriscohen: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/content/administrator/post-ins... |
| [00:17:41] | <chriscohen> | hmm both of these things seem to assume our 'site' is a complete drupal installation |
| [00:17:54] | <chriscohen> | however, our sites are just the contents of, say, the sites/example.com directory |
| [00:18:29] | <chriscohen> | does this mean we'd have to 'fake' a complete install of drupal, with our site in it, for every single site we have, and then get aegir to completely remove the drupal stuff when it migrates? |
| [00:19:00] | <wamilton> | chriscohen: what non-Drupal stuff do you have? |
| [00:19:10] | <chriscohen> | we have no non-drupal stuff! |
| [00:19:23] | <wamilton> | oh... |
| [00:19:31] | <chriscohen> | but everything we've seen so far makes me believe aegir is expecting us to have each 'site' as a separate copy of drupal |
| [00:19:35] | <wamilton> | well, a 'site' in Aegir is not a full drupal install |
| [00:19:47] | <wamilton> | a platform is a drupal build |
| [00:20:00] | <wamilton> | a site is a database and files on a platform |
| [00:20:18] | <chriscohen> | okay, that makes sense |
| [00:21:04] | <chriscohen> | so would we create a blank site, then remove all the files it creates, replacing them with our site files? |
| [00:21:53] | <wamilton> | chriscohen: the easiest thing to do is to move your whole drupal onto the aegir server |
| [00:22:27] | <chriscohen> | ah ok so if we have a complete drupal multisite, with loads of sites, just whack the whole lot into a platform? |
| [00:22:36] | <wamilton> | then, so long as your files and settings.php are in sites/[their-uri], you just create a platform where the drupal root is |
| [00:22:39] | <wamilton> | yes |
| [00:22:57] | <chriscohen> | we use drupal-root/files rather than /drupal-root/sites/example.com/files |
| [00:23:03] | <chriscohen> | is aegir going to understand this? |
| [00:23:38] | <wamilton> | don't do that, Aegir uses a rewrite rule so that the file refs work without you needing to do that |
| [00:24:29] | <wamilton> | does that make sense? |
| [00:25:10] | <chriscohen> | that does make sense |
| [00:25:28] | <chriscohen> | but suppose we have a site that has a files dir in it |
| [00:25:40] | <chriscohen> | we vcs the site, and we have to work around the files dir |
| [00:25:56] | <chriscohen> | this is why we've put the files dir in another place... we've done that since d5 |
| [00:26:28] | <wamilton> | you can just gitignore it, if you really want to have the files served be an actual repo |
| [00:26:52] | <chriscohen> | yeah we could |
| [00:26:58] | <chriscohen> | but then when we edit the site in an IDE |
| [00:27:10] | <chriscohen> | there are a bazillion files in there that don't need to be there, slowing everything down! |
| [00:27:19] | <wamilton> | the alternative is to have a post-commit hook just put things where they go, or talk to Aegir backend to build a new platform when appropriate |
| [00:27:44] | <wamilton> | chriscohen: if you just don't version the files at all, things get easier, I think |
| [00:27:55] | <chriscohen> | seems odd to me, that drupal says "you're allowed to configure where the files dir is" and aegir says "no, you must only have files in one place, and i'll tell you where that must be" |
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| [00:28:22] | <chriscohen> | we don't put files in vcs :P |
| [00:28:26] | <chriscohen> | that's just silly! |
| [00:28:58] | <wamilton> | well, Aegir is made by volunteers and enthusiasts, and you will find that while Drupal allows you to do anything, actually bulletproofing your builds requires you to do things a certain way more often than not |
| [00:29:31] | <chriscohen> | it's like saying "we need to work on this car, and fix a part that sits beneath the engine" and aegir says "right, let's invent a load of tools that work at funny angles, and get people with small hands to work on it" |
| [00:29:42] | <wamilton> | so, how does the IDE see these files if they aren't in the VCS? Are you planning to develop in place rather than locally? |
| [00:29:43] | <chriscohen> | and we just kinda said "let's take the engine out first" ;) |
| [00:29:55] | <chriscohen> | we develop locally |
| [00:30:00] | <chriscohen> | and test locally |
| [00:30:09] | <chriscohen> | so we need a copy of the files in order to view the site or you get broken images |
| [00:30:39] | <chriscohen> | when we open the site in our IDE, we see everything in the sites/example.com dir but nothing else |
| [00:30:44] | <wamilton> | yeah, but it's trivial with symlinks to have your repo some place and your AUT actually served |
| [00:31:11] | <wamilton> | just symlink the repo you're working on into the drupal root your serving |
| [00:31:41] | <wamilton> | s/your/you're |
| [00:32:17] | <chriscohen> | hmm okay i think that makes sense! |
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| [00:35:16] | <wamilton> | while I've still got you on the line, my religion is drush make and install profiles, so I don't have to version anything we didn't write, except by reference |
| [00:37:10] | <chriscohen> | makes sense i suppose |
| [00:40:01] | <chriscohen> | thanks for the pointers, wamilton |
| [00:40:21] | <wamilton> | np, good luck |
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| [03:06:25] | <hefring> | community => Aptitude Apache2 Upgrade Wants to Remove Aegir => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aptitude-apache2-upgrade-wants... |
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| [03:27:57] | * ergonlogic wonders if anyone here has successfully implemented hosting_remote_import |
| [03:28:43] | <ergonlogic> | it keeps failing for me: http://drupal.org/node/1663066 |
| [03:28:44] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1663066 => Can't import remote site => Remote import - Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [03:33:11] | <joestewart> | ergonlogic: Where did you install the provision part? IIRC it is picky and needs to be in the provision directory. |
| [03:33:36] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: yep, got past that part |
| [03:34:23] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: it'll list the sites on the remote server, so I'm pretty sure it's installed correctly |
| [03:34:44] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: with the ssh key installed and all |
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| [03:40:01] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: looks like your platform hasn't been imported yet? |
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| [03:40:32] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: platforms don't get imported with this module, just the site |
| [03:40:44] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: and the platform does indeed exist |
| [03:40:56] | <wamilton> | well, the site alias has to reference a platform, and it's complaining about not being able to find it |
| [03:40:57] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: as does its alias |
| [03:41:16] | <ergonlogic> | yep |
| [03:41:31] | <ergonlogic> | but its there |
| [03:41:38] | <wamilton> | what if you just do `drush @platform_drupal714 provision-verify` ? |
| [03:41:58] | <ergonlogic> | k, I'll try |
| [03:42:05] | <wamilton> | also, it looks like the platform alias isn't getting its @ sign in your output |
| [03:43:02] | <ergonlogic> | yep, the platform verifies just fine |
| [03:43:19] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: I'd noticed that too |
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| [04:01:27] | <wamilton> | ergonlogic: does the site alias have the @ sign? |
| [04:01:40] | <wamilton> | for the reference to the platform, I mean |
| [04:09:39] | <ergonlogic> | wamilton: the site alias only exists on the remote server, but yes, it looks normal |
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| [04:39:03] | <jasonmce> | where should I look to find out why a platform verify keeps getting pushed back to the next cron run? There's nothing in the apache error logs, and when I try to "drush ws" in the hostmaster site I get I'm told that I need to enable dblog (which I guess is my next step?) |
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| [04:43:00] | <jasonmce> | enabled dblog, no messages are getting logged and verify task keeps getting pushed back minute by minute |
| [04:45:58] | <jasonmce> | so errors are coming in via email, which is fine. Think it's a problem with the path to drush |
| [04:46:53] | <wamilton> | jasonmce: do you have error output on which you are basing that? |
| [04:47:57] | <jasonmce> | just found an email stating "The drush command 'hosting-dispatch' could not be found." and it looks like my buddy didn't set up his /usr/bin/drush alias properly. So it didn't stand a chance. Fixed the alias to see what the next blocker is... |
| [04:50:52] | <wamilton> | well, the full command should have been @hostmaster hosting-dispatch |
| [04:51:41] | <wamilton> | so, it looks like the back end doesn't know how what alias to use for telling the front end to do things |
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| [05:01:36] | <jasonmce> | so the 2nd error in those emails is "Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php" |
| [05:02:22] | <jasonmce> | not sure if ./ is for the new platform or hostmaster-6.x-1.8 |
| [05:03:27] | <jasonmce> | it's true that there's no settings.php in either's ./sites/default/ directory, but should there need to be? |
| [05:03:49] | <jasonmce> | I'm helping someone getting his aegir install up and running, so not sure what install steps he may have missed |
| [05:05:35] | <wamilton> | jasonmce: can you ssh into the aegir machine, become the aegir user, and do `cd /var/aegir; drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch` and put the output into pastebin and link to it? |
| [05:05:44] | <jasonmce> | sure |
| [05:06:16] | <jasonmce> | The drush command 'hosting-dispatch' could not be found |
| [05:06:37] | <jasonmce> | ^^ not worth pastebin-ing |
| [05:09:41] | <jasonmce> | and then "Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php." |
| [05:12:13] | <wamilton> | jasonmce: ok, pastebin this: `ls /var/aegir/.drush` |
| [05:12:34] | <wamilton> | jasonmce: and this: `drush sa` |
| [05:13:32] | <jasonmce> | http://pastebin.com/BKVFB9Hz |
| [05:14:41] | <jasonmce> | a-ha, am I missing a hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php file in .drush ? |
| [05:15:07] | <wamilton> | actually, you're not, but I guess your home dir must be wrong |
| [05:15:15] | <wamilton> | `echo $HOME` ? |
| [05:15:28] | <jasonmce> | /var/aegir |
| [05:16:21] | <wamilton> | ok, `cat /var/aegir/.drush/hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php` |
| [05:17:04] | <wamilton> | there's something patently wrong with either the drush alias or how hostmaster profile was set up |
| [05:19:15] | <jasonmce> | may have found it, one sec |
| [05:19:23] | <jasonmce> | btw, thanks for the all the help on this! |
| [05:19:39] | <wamilton> | np |
| [05:25:54] | <jasonmce> | so hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php had the wrong 'site_path' variable. I fixed it, but still get: |
| [05:25:59] | <jasonmce> | aegir@vps1:~$ drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch |
| [05:25:59] | <jasonmce> | The drush command 'hosting-dispatch' could not be found. [error] |
| [05:25:59] | <jasonmce> | Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php. [error] |
| [05:26:43] | <wamilton> | can you pastebin the hostmaster alias, and I'll compare it to one that works? |
| [05:28:12] | <jasonmce> | it was http://pastebin.com/Qfm0FhCR (note site_path) but I updated it to http://pastebin.com/qpxgjpaq with a valid site_path |
| [05:31:39] | <wamilton> | ok, that all should be fine, what happens if you go `drush @hostmaster sqlc` ? |
| [05:32:09] | <wamilton> | trying to see if rudimentary core drush works properly... |
| [05:33:27] | <jasonmce> | The drush command '@hostmaster sqlc' could not be found. [error] |
| [05:33:27] | <jasonmce> | A Drupal installation directory could not be found |
| [05:33:43] | <jasonmce> | so no, for some reason rudimentary drush core is all broked |
| [05:35:32] | <jasonmce> | for @hostmaster |
| [05:35:53] | <jasonmce> | hold on |
| [05:37:23] | <jasonmce> | wrong shell. Real answer is that when I call `drush @hostmaster sqlc` from /var/aegir I get "Command sql-cli needs a higher bootstrap level to run - you will need invoke drush from a more[error] |
| [05:37:23] | <jasonmce> | functional Drupal environment to run this command." |
| [05:37:35] | <jasonmce> | wrong shell. Real answer is that when I call `drush @hostmaster sqlc` from /var/aegir I get "Command sql-cli needs a higher bootstrap level to run - you will need invoke drush from a more[error]" |
| [05:37:53] | <jasonmce> | "functional Drupal environment to run this command." |
| [05:39:07] | <jasonmce> | aegir@vps1:~$ drush @hostmaster |
| [05:39:07] | <jasonmce> | Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php. [error] |
| [05:39:07] | <jasonmce> | so it's like it can't find @hostmaster |
| [05:39:33] | <wamilton> | I think it can find the alias, but that for whatever reason that isn't giving the sufficient info |
| [05:40:02] | <wamilton> | like the subsequent drushrc's in the hostmaster root and the site root for your hostmaster install don't have the info it needs to know which settings.php to use |
| [05:40:50] | <wamilton> | what if you also pass the --root and --uri arguments to tell it exactly what to use? |
| [05:41:02] | <jasonmce> | lets see... |
| [05:41:11] | <wamilton> | `drush help | less` for info on what those should be... |
| [05:42:28] | <jasonmce> | that works |
| [05:42:49] | <jasonmce> | I set --root and --uri for a status and got a full response |
| [05:43:47] | <wamilton> | erm |
| [05:43:55] | <wamilton> | when you try sqlc do you get a mysql prompt? |
| [05:44:13] | <jasonmce> | it was the uri! |
| [05:44:19] | <jasonmce> | in @hostmaster |
| [05:44:29] | <wamilton> | I was wondering about that.... |
| [05:44:47] | <jasonmce> | he had it set to the local name, which probably wasn't resolving properly |
| [05:45:06] | <wamilton> | yeah, it has to be the name of the dir in sites that applies for the drush environment |
| [05:45:43] | <jasonmce> | so the action has completed with an error, so now to investigate and find the next blocker :-p |
| [05:45:50] | <jasonmce> | thanks again for taking the time |
| [05:45:52] | <jasonmce> | pm? |
| [05:48:02] | <wamilton> | ok |
| [05:52:51] | <lukus> | omega8cc, ping? |
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| [06:04:38] | <omega8cc> | lukus: pong |
| [06:04:58] | <lukus> | hiya |
| [06:05:16] | <lukus> | I've just upgraded to the latest version of aegir and my nginx server isn't playing nice |
| [06:05:33] | <lukus> | ... "unknown directive fastcgi no_cache" |
| [06:05:42] | <lukus> | is it because I need a later version of nginx? |
| [06:08:18] | <omega8cc> | lukus: please open an issue then maybe? |
| [06:08:29] | <lukus> | hey sure |
| [06:08:30] | <lukus> | okay |
| [06:08:36] | <omega8cc> | thanks |
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| [06:10:30] | <omega8cc> | lukus: http://community.aegirproject.org/1.7#Known_issues |
| [06:10:50] | <omega8cc> | and http://drupal.org/node/1498774#comment-5781810 |
| [06:10:51] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1498774 => Minimum Nginx version supported? => Provision, Code, normal, active, 6 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [06:26:17] | <lukus> | omega8cc, thanks |
| [06:26:23] | <lukus> | I upgraded .. was about time |
| [06:26:26] | <lukus> | all is now well |
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| [06:34:13] | <lukus> | gah - I was on version 0.7x |
| [06:34:20] | <lukus> | now have 1.3.2 |
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| [08:10:37] | * mvc finally tags a stable release of http://drupal.org/project/project_status |
| [08:11:13] | <mvc> | useful if you want to see which modules in sites/all/ are used or not used by sites in your platform |
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