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[10:58:15]<hefring>realityloop: 10 hours 52 min ago <omega8cc> tell realityloop: it was a bug, as it should delete that file only on initial install, to avoid issues with sendmail if installed, which doesn't purge its stuff correctly on remove/purge, see http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/commit/ba4ec3d
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[13:44:40]<Tigeda>omega8cc: ping
[13:47:30]<anarcat>darthsteven: i'd like to have the rights to publish releases on hosting_queue_runner please :)
[13:47:35]<anarcat>please pretty please with sugar on top
[13:47:45]<anarcat>i already pushed a 1.2 tag, we're way overdue for a release
[13:47:53]<anarcat>i have made the init script start the daemon as niced
[13:50:51]<hefring>Git => run the daemon niced => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/4f697cb0d4f944da...
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[16:24:15]<Tigeda>omega8cc Can you please advise when support requests will be adressed?
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[16:33:14]<darthsteven>anarcat: Done!
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[19:09:12]<chriscohen>morning all
[19:09:51]<chriscohen>suppose i have an aegir host running with, say, 5 platforms
[19:10:19]<chriscohen>i make site changes in a git repo, and i want to update my site
[19:10:53]<chriscohen>but if the site is on 5 platforms, or on any one of the 5 platforms, how do i know where to deploy the code changes?
[19:34:20]<darthsteven>the site will only be on one platform
[19:34:42]<darthsteven>it's up to you to know what platforms contain what code
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[19:57:35]<chriscohen>darthsteven: hmm seems like a shortcoming :S
[19:58:04]<chriscohen>so you have to, say, manually rsync files up to the live server, knowing ahead of time which dir they're in?
[19:58:36]<chriscohen>we currently use a deployment tool that manages rsyncing and git revisions and whatnot, but it relies on the production code being in a specific path on the server
[19:58:45]<darthsteven>not sure I understand what you're trying to do?
[19:58:55]<chriscohen>push code changes to a production site ;)
[19:59:05]<darthsteven>new platform
[19:59:09]<darthsteven>and migrate the site
[19:59:26]<chriscohen>not changes to drupal or the platform's modules
[19:59:37]<chriscohen>i mean, like, you've changed some CSS on a login screen or something
[19:59:41]<chriscohen>custom theme code, say
[20:00:11]<darthsteven>well this is where you decide if you want to put your code in a site specific folder, or at the platform level in an install profile
[20:00:28]<darthsteven>you can get at the site specific folder at:
[20:00:42]<darthsteven>/var/aegir/clients/CLIENTNAME/SITE_FQDN/
[20:01:03]<darthsteven>we keep our site specific code in an install profile at the platform level
[20:01:14]<darthsteven>we don't have any 'site specific' code as such
[20:01:25]<darthsteven>in the individual sites folders
[20:02:12]<chriscohen>darthsteven: ahh that's what i was looking for
[20:02:25]<chriscohen>we can tell our deployment stuff to always go to /var/aegir/clients/pooslice/example.com
[20:02:32]<darthsteven>yup
[20:02:42]<chriscohen>we don't actually have a client called pooslice
[20:04:11]<chriscohen>darthsteven: out of interest, could the same be achieved with a drush make file, and telling aegir to "build" the site?
[20:04:25]<chriscohen>as in drush make would (a) pull from git repo and (b) install any contrib modules
[20:05:02]<darthsteven>You can specify a make file when building a platform
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[20:15:05]<chriscohen>hmm ok thanks darthsteven
[20:21:11]<chriscohen>hmm sorry darthsteven, another little question :S
[20:21:23]<darthsteven>sure
[20:21:27]<chriscohen>at the moment our settings.php is in VCS, so would get deployed to the site-specific folder
[20:21:35]<chriscohen>if it overwrites aegir's one, that's bad right?
[20:23:07]<darthsteven>that is bad
[20:23:14]<darthsteven>you can use a local.settings.php
[20:23:23]<darthsteven>which gets included by the Aegir settings.php
[20:24:43]<chriscohen>so don't put settings.php in VCS, but have a local.settings.php in there?
[20:24:56]<chriscohen>is there anything in the aegir manual about using it that ywa?
[20:25:00]<chriscohen>way*
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[20:26:12]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/71
[20:26:30]<chriscohen>perfect thanks mig5
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[22:29:08]<omega8cc>hefring: tell Tigeda: we don't use this room for omega8.cc support, you need to use omega8.cc/support form and if this is critical issue, like access locked, you can also ping our noc directly via text/sms (but if this is not critical, the ping will be ignored)
[22:29:08]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when Tigeda is around.
[22:29:45]<chriscohen>man that's annoying... aegir keeps changing all of its vhosts to port 80
[22:29:51]<chriscohen>we need to run apache on non-80
[22:30:00]<chriscohen>is there a global aegir setting to say please don't use port 80?
[22:30:40]<darthsteven>chriscohen: yup
[22:31:01]<darthsteven>chriscohen: edit the server in the Aegir frontend and there will be an option for apache port
[22:31:57]<chriscohen>darthsteven, awesome! :D
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[22:43:53]<omega8cc>darthsteven: hi, I see that zeus server is not used at all, any plans in the near future?
[22:44:18]<darthsteven>omega8cc: Yes! I've not had any time to look, but should do tomorrow
[22:44:27]<darthsteven>and over the weekend and next week
[22:44:41]<omega8cc>darthsteven: great!
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[00:00:43]<chriscohen>sorry, these are stupid questions, but i'm really struggling with this stuff
[00:00:57]<chriscohen>i've imported a site by putting the site files into my platform, and running verify
[00:01:03]<chriscohen>it picks up the site, fine, and imports it
[00:01:21]<chriscohen>however, the import has failed, no idea why, it just says "unable to find drush alias @"
[00:01:33]<chriscohen>how do you import it now? there's no ability to retry or start again
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[00:03:41]<chriscohen>hah it's actually failed to delete the site now too :(
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[00:05:25]<bgm>chriscohen: yeah, the delete often fails when the import/install failed. you can just delete the node
[00:05:43]<bgm>the "unable to find alias" is kind of weird though..
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[00:09:36]<chriscohen>bgm: i'm just putting the site-specific files into a subfolder of the sites folder in the platform i'm working on
[00:09:46]<chriscohen>is that how i'm supposed to import existing sites?
[00:10:11]<chriscohen>or should i create a blank site, and then put files in that?
[00:10:43]<bgm>chriscohen: usually that should work (copy files, then verify)
[00:10:50]<bgm>note that it expects your DB to be already setup
[00:11:02]<chriscohen>bgm is it going to read my db info from settings.php?
[00:11:04]<bgm>so it should have a valid settings.php, etc, which it will then rewrite
[00:11:11]<chriscohen>ah okay
[00:11:12]<bgm>yep
[00:11:18]<chriscohen>i don't think it can handle our settings.php format
[00:11:26]<bgm>otherwise, you can create an empty site, delete all tables, and manually import into that
[00:11:35]<chriscohen>it says "if the URL contains X, it's a dev site, so use these db settings, otherwise use these other settings"
[00:12:02]<shonk>chriscohen: I thought that aegir's site files were outside of the platform files to keep them abstracted.
[00:12:13]<shonk>chriscohen: do you have a "clients" directory?
[00:12:31]<chriscohen>yep
[00:12:35]<bgm>to violently delete all tables in a DB from the command line: echo 'show tables' | drush sqlc | grep -v Tables_in | gawk -v NOFOREIGNCHECK='SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0;' 'BEGIN {print NOFOREIGNCHECK}{print "drop table " $1 ";"}' | drush sqlc
[00:12:52]<bgm>(the foreign key check is because i use CiviCRM, which has foreign keys)
[00:12:57]<chriscohen>bgm thanks - we tend to use a graphical thing to truncate all tables
[00:13:02]<chriscohen>er drop all tables
[00:13:07]<chriscohen>well both
[00:14:17]<bgm>i'm lazy ;)
[00:15:02]<shonk>chriscohen: ah, no mine has sites in the platform's sites folder... I thought that darthsteven said something about them being kept outside it, must have misunderstood
[00:15:32]<bgm>shonk: i think it's planned, but not like that currently, only symlinks
[00:15:43]<shonk>ok
[00:23:26]<joestewart>shonk: the clients directory has convenient symlinks so you don't have to remember which platform a site is on. http://drupal.org/node/1115960
[00:23:27]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1115960 => Moving a site between platforms causes confusion => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, closed (fixed), 11 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[00:25:20]<shonk>joestewart: is that in the newer versions? my older install has the files within the platform
[00:25:53]<shonk>oh, sorry, misunderstood, got you now
[00:34:04]<chriscohen>yeah the symlinks are going to be crucial for us
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[00:48:05]<darthsteven>chriscohen: you want to chat to anarcat about that, I know that koumbit do it that way
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[01:00:18]<chriscohen>darthsteven: about what, sorry?
[01:00:32]<darthsteven>chriscohen: symlinks for the files dir
[01:01:04]<chriscohen>darthsteven: ah... we've created a process for migrating files back into the site now
[01:01:11]<chriscohen>but thanks!
[01:01:26]<chriscohen>any reason anyone can think of why clean urls would suddenly stop working when a d7 site is moved to aegir?
[01:05:31]<darthsteven>not really
[01:05:55]<chriscohen>saw this. but it doesn't help much: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/problem-clean-urls
[01:09:21]<chriscohen>-rw-r----- 1 aegir aegir 5410 2012-06-28 15:40 .htaccess
[01:09:26]<chriscohen>doesn't seem to be a problem with that, right?
[01:15:38]<wamilton>chriscohen: make sure you have a drupal .htaccess in the root and re-verify the platform
[01:15:55]<chriscohen>wamilton: yeah that's what that is ^^
[01:16:03]<wamilton>verify
[01:16:06]<chriscohen>the .htaccess is in the platform root and looks to be accesible
[01:16:09]<chriscohen>verifies fine
[01:16:25]<wamilton>ok, it's important because Aegir actually subverts htaccess
[01:16:33]<chriscohen>:o
[01:16:41]<chriscohen>subversion?
[01:16:43]<chriscohen>but we use git!
[01:16:50]<wamilton>yeah, it swallows the rules in htaccess and puts it in the apache config
[01:17:07]<chriscohen>hrmm
[01:17:11]<chriscohen>fixed, thanks
[01:17:22]<chriscohen>must have verified BEFORE .htaccess was put there
[01:17:27]<wamilton>exactly
[01:17:31]<chriscohen>makes sense that the order is important
[01:18:07]<wamilton>yeah, it absorbs the htaccess on verify
[01:18:33]<chriscohen>cunning
[01:23:31]<joestewart>chriscohen: apache can't read your .htaccess with those permissions can it?
[01:23:55]<chriscohen>yeah :)
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[01:33:36]<wamilton>joestewart: www-data has to be added to aegir group as part of configuration
[01:34:04]<joestewart>argh. no. aegir should be added to www-data
[01:34:18]<wamilton>... you might be right ...
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[07:02:07]<Mfawzy>Hi, I've just installed Aegir a week ago and I left it for a week, now I'm back and I can't just create a platform node !!
[07:02:16]<Mfawzy>I'm getting access denied !
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