| [20:24:04] | <hefring> | community => how to seperate combined httpd logs ? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/how-seperate-combined-httpd-logs |
| [20:24:04] | <hefring> | community => Platform not loading correct module info => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/platform-not-loading-correct-m... |
| [20:24:04] | <hefring> | community => Could not rsync from '/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/platform.d/platform_drupal626.conf' to 'aegir@aegir:/' => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/could-not-rsync-varaegirconfig... |
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| [20:24:22] | <hefring> | community => Change MySQL access => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/change-mysql-access |
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| [02:21:18] | <joestewart> | anarcat: are you around? wondering if you could comment on http://drupal.org/node/990812#comment-6213314 from an aegir perspective. I'd like to see some directories set with 2775 but still looking through the ownership portion. |
| [02:21:20] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/990812 => Add a "permissions" subcommand to fix/set all file permissions => Drush, Core Commands, normal, needs work, 27 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [02:21:35] | <anarcat> | unfortunately i am in a crazy rush now |
| [02:21:41] | <anarcat> | but that's what verify is supposed to do |
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| [02:26:21] | <joestewart> | anarcat: ok, thanks. it doesn't look useful to replace our code as is. maybe with arguments for some file and directory permissions. |
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| [05:54:08] | <lsolesen> | Any of you ever have a database disappear on your aegir instance without the site being deleted? |
| [05:56:07] | <lsolesen> | any of you use the hosting backup queue and hosting backup garbage collection? |
| [05:58:01] | <gboudrias> | lsolesen: The DB disappearing never happened to me, it sounds like a human error, though I'd love to hear others' input on this. From what I understand, you have a greater chance of getting a response in this channel if you ping someone in particular of if you ask during the "office hours" (see channel message) |
| [05:59:20] | <lsolesen> | gboudrias: I am the only one with access to the server, and I have not run any mysql command or uninstalled the site… But only one of the db's went missing, so it is probably a human error. |
| [05:59:35] | <lsolesen> | Not having automated backups in aegir is indeed a human error :( |
| [06:00:08] | <gboudrias> | lsolesen: As for the hosting backup queue / garbage collector , I haven't used them personally but heard good things. Do you have a question in particular? |
| [06:00:53] | <lsolesen> | It's just been a while since they have been updated. Maybe the projects were stalled. |
| [06:01:01] | <lsolesen> | WIll try them on... |
| [06:01:34] | <gboudrias> | lsolesen: With any luck you may find their maintainer in this channel ? |
| [06:01:43] | <gboudrias> | lsolesen: I'm sure they would be able to inform you of the situation |
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| [06:37:38] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: we had a similar situation recently, and had to restore from backups |
| [06:37:52] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: also, we use the automated backup and gc modules here at Koumbit |
| [06:37:52] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: Ok. |
| [06:37:56] | <lsolesen> | What happened for you? |
| [06:38:14] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: I just enabled those on my two aegir instances. |
| [06:38:22] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: it's hard to say |
| [06:38:57] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: I was called in to fix a broken site, and discovered the DB appeared to be gone |
| [06:39:09] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: Same here. I have 10 sites running on the aegir instance, and I have not been fiddling with the one who lost its database. However, I installed five new sites today. |
| [06:39:24] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: That was exactly what happened here... |
| [06:40:04] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: afaict, it happened via an upgrade (migrating a site from platform to platform) |
| [06:40:20] | <lsolesen> | The worst thing is that it was the only really important site which lost its database. |
| [06:40:41] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: I did not even migrate that site. |
| [06:40:57] | <ergonlogic> | what I discovered though, was that there appeared to still be a db |
| [06:41:02] | <ergonlogic> | at least one with a similar name |
| [06:41:34] | <ergonlogic> | but I don't know if that's related |
| [06:42:04] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: There is still a database with something of a similar name, but I think it is an old database I used earlier, as it does not seem to follow the naming convention of aegir. |
| [06:42:20] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, similar here |
| [06:42:41] | <ergonlogic> | see if you can dump that db |
| [06:42:43] | <lsolesen> | Now I have to disable my site for now. |
| [06:42:49] | <ergonlogic> | create a new site |
| [06:43:32] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: I need to wait to regenerate my backup. Need an entire serverbackup to find whether I have the db there. |
| [06:43:33] | <ergonlogic> | and then import the db it via: 'drush sqlc < database.sql' |
| [06:44:00] | <lsolesen> | I did not have mysql dumps created automatically. |
| [06:44:22] | <lsolesen> | I actually thought aegir managed some regular backups more automatic. |
| [06:44:49] | <lsolesen> | But then remembered after looking through the backups that I was reading about the modules, you just mentioned. |
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| [06:45:01] | <lsolesen> | So now they are in place. |
| [06:45:29] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: there are backups made for every clone or migrate task (and backup, obviously) |
| [06:45:45] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: but no stand-alone automated backups apart from the contrib module |
| [06:46:50] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen: I've got to go, but I'd suggest trying to see if that 'old' db has something worthwhile |
| [06:47:02] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: yep. But it was too long since I did a clone og migrate. |
| [06:47:57] | <ergonlogic> | good luck :) |
| [06:48:09] | <omega8cc> | ergonlogic: lsolesen: this may happen only if you have some failed or half baked clone in the edge case state where it failed to rewrite its settings.php and drushrc.php so they still reference the live/original site db and when you will try to delete that clone, it will silently delete the live site's db |
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| [06:49:00] | <omega8cc> | I have seen that twice |
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| [06:50:17] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Bugger. That is exactly what happened. |
| [06:50:20] | <lsolesen> | Now I remember. |
| [06:50:40] | <lsolesen> | I had a half baked dev.vih.dk and deleted that clone. |
| [06:50:50] | <lsolesen> | And now vih.dk db disappeared. |
| [06:51:20] | <omega8cc> | yeah, that is why there is no such thing like too many backups and boa manages them automatically, even if there is no built-in backup in Aegir enabled |
| [06:51:52] | <omega8cc> | you are running standard Aegir, not boa? |
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| [06:52:22] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Actually I installed several new sites on my server today to move all of them from one of my linode 512, where I am planning on installing BOA. |
| [06:52:36] | <lsolesen> | from = off* |
| [06:52:59] | <lsolesen> | Should never have deleted that clone though :( |
| [06:53:09] | <lsolesen> | Was expecting to install BOA right now... |
| [06:53:10] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: ah, then you don't have that boa automated backups yet |
| [06:53:21] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Nope. |
| [06:53:36] | <lsolesen> | Can BOA run satisfactory on a linode 512? |
| [06:53:48] | <omega8cc> | boa archives all db backups for all sites for last 7 days |
| [06:53:49] | <omega8cc> | yes |
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| [06:54:34] | <omega8cc> | but 1024 is better, less swap use |
| [06:55:56] | <omega8cc> | it may be important since linode I/O performance is less than ideal, imo |
| [06:56:16] | <omega8cc> | so swap can slow down things heavily |
| [06:56:29] | <omega8cc> | but for small sites 512 is enough |
| [06:57:27] | <darthsteven> | hefring: Tell realityloop that that queue runner issue looks to be because you're using drush 5 (http://drupal.org/node/1677842) I'd post a comment, but im currently camping and IRC is easier! |
| [06:57:27] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1677842 => PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function drush_backend_invoke() => Hosting queue runner, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [06:57:27] | <hefring> | darthsteven: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around. |
| [06:57:38] | <darthsteven> | hefring: Botsnack |
| [06:57:38] | <hefring> | *burp* |
| [06:59:16] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: happy camping! |
| [07:14:18] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Is the edge case scenario an official issue in Aegir. |
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| [07:16:19] | <lsolesen> | btw, I am really satisfied with linode, but they have a terrible paid backup plan. There is one spot for daily backups, and two for weekly backups. This means that I one can loose many days of work if you do not discover an error before yesterdays backup is overwritten. |
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| [07:22:02] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: it's not an 'official' issue, afaik, at least I don't remember it reported before |
| [07:24:12] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: yeah, backups in linode are not really helpful, any professional hosting should provide r1soft backups, so you can retrieve any file you wish, not only restore to full system image (also limited) |
| [07:25:10] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: exactly... |
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| [07:42:25] | <lsolesen> | mig5: http://drupal.org/node/1678528 |
| [07:42:25] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1678528 => Database deleted on edge cases => Provision, Code, critical, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
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| [08:18:08] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: http://larsolesen.dk/node/348 <— I really want to install barracuda, but need to get all my sites off the server first, so I can reinstall… So just need a place to store them. |
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| [08:25:19] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: I would recommend to set up new linode, install boa and import all sites there, then change your DNS to point to the new IP. While it is doable to install boa on the already running system, you shouldn't even try that if you didn't try that before, since it may cause more issues than it is worth of, plus extended downtime etc. |
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| [08:27:40] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell lsolesen: I would recommend to set up new linode, install boa and import all sites there, then change your DNS to point to the new IP. While it is doable to install boa on the already running system, you shouldn't even try that if you didn't try that before, since it may cause more issues than it is worth of, plus extended downtime etc. |
| [08:27:40] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when lsolesen is around. |
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| [09:32:51] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: I just completed getting all my sites to a new linode (luckily I had one extra - otherwise it would have been a tad expensive :)) |
| [09:32:51] | <hefring> | lsolesen: 1 hour 5 min ago <omega8cc> tell lsolesen: I would recommend to set up new linode, install boa and import all sites there, then change your DNS to point to the new IP. While it is doable to install boa on the already running system, you shouldn't even try that if you didn't try that before, since it may cause more issues than it is worth of, plus extended downtime etc. |
| [09:33:27] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Now I am just thinking whether I should upgrade my 512 to a 1024. |
| [09:33:38] | <lsolesen> | Whether it is worth the extra money spend. |
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| [09:41:35] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Which of the optional modules in Barracuda do you suggest one installs? |
