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[20:23:37]<jostie>anarcat: Are you here?
[20:26:54]<jostie>Is there anyone who knows more about the DNS feature development?
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[02:29:38]<jostie>Iam currently working on my new workflow. And am exploring a drush make symlink integration for development servers only
[02:29:43]<jostie>I wrote it up here http://drupal.org/node/1764006
[02:29:44]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1764006 => Drush makefile Symbolic links => Drush, Make, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[02:29:58]<jostie>I would love to know how you guys think of this
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[02:48:43]<mvc>jostie: first comment: drush 5 is supposed to be windows compatible, so a patch which calls ln -s would have to live in a separate drush module
[02:49:03]<jostie>Yeah I figured
[02:49:27]<jostie>But due to the lack of documentation, iam looking for an elegant way to create a better plugin
[02:49:44]<jostie>mayb even hook into the project types suplied by drush make
[02:50:32]<jostie>But i can't find any documentation on how to.
[02:50:46]<mvc>jostie: i wouldn't personally use your approach, because an upgrade to a custom module that works on dev site A could break dev site B
[02:50:54]<mvc>i would suggest using git submodules
[02:51:10]<mvc>then periodically pulling into your various dev sites and testing
[02:51:26]<mvc>that would also allow you to collaborate with other people
[02:52:00]<jostie>Don't get me wrong, this is not intended to go past your own local. Its up to everyone to merge his or her own links if need bee
[02:52:11]<mvc>no, i understood that.
[02:52:41]<jostie>But polling and updating is not "live" enough to do development
[02:52:51]<jostie>I just want to hit f5 and see the changes!
[02:53:26]<jostie>Also when debuging in eclipse, its not practical to have your entire project ruined by an aegir migrate/clone action :)
[02:53:30]<mvc>so edit the checkout of the custom module in dev site A, hit f5 until it works, then push to your git repo and pull the updates down to dev site B
[02:54:35]<mvc>i would also comment that this doesn't seem to be aegir-specific so you might get more feedback in the #drush channel
[02:55:13]<jostie>Yeah, but its kind of silent there, so I tough i come here to discuss some
[02:55:37]<jostie>because If I can manage a simple drush plugin, I would like to get involved in the aegir DNS package
[02:55:38]<mvc>okay :) in general that channel is more active
[02:56:24]<mvc>the DNS code is definitely not going to be simple!
[02:56:41]<jostie>Thats for sure. But it would be a kickass functionality
[02:56:46]<mvc>i know anarcat was working on it, but he's currently taking some well-deserved vacation time
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[02:57:53]<jostie>at the verry core we need to abstract all the dns functionality, so it can interface with the various supported systems like bind and dnsmasq
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[02:58:57]<anarcat>it is abstracted already
[02:59:08]<jostie>Hey!
[02:59:14]<anarcat>:)
[02:59:17]* anarcat is not really here :P
[02:59:26]<jostie>I wont tell ;)
[02:59:46]<jostie>but i liked your writeup for provision managing the records directly
[02:59:50]<anarcat>jostie: especially don't tell mvc because he'll make fun of me not taking "real vacations" when i come back ;)
[02:59:52]<jostie>instead of overwriting them
[02:59:59]<anarcat>indeed
[03:00:07]<anarcat>did you read https://drupal.org/node/922280 ?
[03:00:23]<jostie>yeah thats what iam refering to
[03:00:27]<anarcat>right okay
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[03:00:32]<anarcat>well, everything i know is in there basically
[03:00:58]<jostie>Do you have any abstract strategy in mind? or havent you given it any tought yet?
[03:01:19]<mvc>anarcat: va-toi dans bois, toi ! :)
[03:01:58]<anarcat>hehe
[03:02:02]<anarcat>mvc: je pars samedi :)
[03:02:10]<anarcat>aujourd'hui, je geeke sur le reseau libre et je fais du hamac ;)
[03:02:27]<anarcat>je m'amuse beaucoup avec reseaulibre.ca :P
[03:02:55]<mvc>bon, au moins t'as un hamac
[03:03:22]<anarcat>hehe
[03:03:32]<anarcat>a great hammock too!
[03:04:08]<mvc>dis-moi si j'ai besoin de venir t'installer une cage de faraday au tour de ton appart pour tes prochains vacances
[03:04:15]<jostie>To achieve your writeup, i believe provision will have to proxy dns matching abilities
[03:04:41]<jostie>Or is that going to far?
[03:14:36]<anarcat>mvc: hahaha
[03:14:50]<anarcat>jostie: i do not understand what you mean here
[03:16:25]<jostie>In terms of responsibility: provision manages the dns zones/records. And hostmaster saves metadata like: this record is mine.
[03:19:20]<jostie>Because if that's so, wont provision have to make descisions like: this record overlaps with another record ignore.
[03:19:46]<anarcat>correct: the backend is dumb and just obeys
[03:20:12]<anarcat>i would be happy to help you direct your energy and work in the right direction when i come back from vacation
[03:20:15]<anarcat>on september 10th :)
[03:20:31]<anarcat>in the meantime, feel free to branch off a sandbox or something, i can review stuff when i come back
[03:20:47]<jostie>hehe ill take you up on that! Hopefully ill have published a simpler drush plugin by then!
[03:20:51]<jostie>enjoy your vacation!
[03:22:45]<anarcat>awesome
[03:22:47]<anarcat>thanks!
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[06:13:22]<sforsythe1>Hi all. Trying to install Aegir on Ubuntu 12.04 , messed up the FQDN in initial install and tried to wipe everything. Did apt-get remove, deleted the db , deleted /var/aegir ... when went to reinstall, changed the FQDN, rebooted, now when attempting to reinstall aegir it always remembers the FQDN I used in first install ... how do I get rid of that???
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[06:19:57]<sforsythe1>anyone?
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[07:29:34]<rovo>Is there any writeups for the best way to setup Aegir and it's signup form to allow a person to signup and deploy a site?
[07:29:50]<rovo>I think maybe this is the best writeup I've found so far, http://community.aegirproject.org/node/28
[07:30:36]<rovo>The issue I have right now is a person can see to many options such as test platforms
[07:30:49]<rovo>I want to reduce it, but do it the Aegir way
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