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[15:29:58]<anarcat>goumbot: ping
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[16:06:52]<b0x>hey, if im a limited user in aegir, there is no possible way i can install phpmyadmin if its not already installed right? (all i have access to is /sites)
[16:09:03]<b0x>have been given a job that a previous developer made an absolute mess of, now I certain modules wont install due to preexisting fields/values in db (organic fields modules), so I want to remove them manually. generally dont work on aegir based servers.
[16:10:39]<b0x>specifically: FieldException: Attempt to create an instance of field og_membership_request on bundle og_membership_type_default that already has an instance of that field. in field_create_instance() (line 490 of /data/disk/v4645427527/static/basebuild-7.15-1.1/modules/field/field.crud.inc).
[16:10:52]<b0x>When trying to enable OG (2.x-dev) access related modules
[16:11:35]<b0x>I believe the previous dev had tried to setup some sort of OG related system but dropped the ball at some point and has been booted.
[16:13:10]<b0x>Seems to be only related to: "Organic groups access control" module.
[16:14:00]<b0x>All the other OG modules (along with OG_extras etc) are now enabled.
[16:14:04]<b0x>Any ideas?
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[16:49:38]<berniecram>b0x: pull down a backup and hack the DB to your hearts content on localhost with MAMP or whatever you are using. I would not be trying to modify your aegir install (unless you know how and thus you probably wouldn't be asking)
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[18:53:22]<Rosso_>hello all, after updating drush on an aegir server aegir doesn't finish a verify. log message : Task starts processing
[19:17:24]<Rosso_>restore old drush from backup doesn't solve the problem
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[19:19:44]<jostie>what version of drush are you using. Had that problem in my debian testing
[19:20:57]<jostie>type drush --version
[19:21:23]<jostie>because as far as I know, the stable aegir release doen't yet support drush 5
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[19:22:42]<Rosso_>dankje jostie. i use 5
[19:22:59]<Rosso_>now i only have to find a way to reverse :)
[19:23:27]<jostie>what linux do you use?
[19:25:38]<Rosso_>debian squeeze
[19:26:06]<Rosso_>i restored drush from the backup dir
[19:26:07]<jostie>yes. you installed via apt-get / aptitude?
[19:26:19]<Rosso_>drush self-update
[19:26:20]<jostie>oh ok.
[19:26:38]<jostie>I believe squeeze has drush 4.x in the repo
[19:27:02]<jostie>because the aegir and drush community are debian lovers i guess :P
[19:27:08]<Rosso_>yes... but after restore verify doesn't stop
[19:27:15]<Rosso_>:)
[19:27:23]<jostie>you have to delete the hung up task
[19:27:43]<Rosso_>yes, did that
[19:27:54]<Rosso_>but now it won't start the next one :)
[19:28:12]<jostie>as in the task is gone?
[19:28:46]<Rosso_>yes, i did delete the task completly. but still there is something in the air :)
[19:29:04]<jostie>are you using cron task handling or the hosting-queue-runner?
[19:29:18]<jostie>using php-cgi mode or apache module
[19:29:22]<Rosso_>hosting-queue-runner
[19:29:26]<Rosso_>nginx
[19:29:37]<jostie>do a ps auxw | grep php
[19:29:40]<jostie>or | grep drush
[19:30:09]<Rosso_>php-fpm
[19:30:16]<Rosso_>kill that?
[19:30:28]<jostie>if you are sure you know how to restart it
[19:30:41]<jostie>and restart the hosting-queue-runner script
[19:31:23]<Rosso_>think i found the problem
[19:31:43]<Rosso_>Restarting also doesn't stop
[19:32:16]<Rosso_>rebooting is allways an option
[19:32:23]<jostie>Iam not familiar with nginx. So can't help you there. Killing the php-cgis always works for me
[19:32:31]<jostie>did you restart nginx?
[19:32:46]<Rosso_>yes
[19:32:51]<jostie>hhm... weird.
[19:33:02]<Rosso_>restarting the server now
[19:33:06]<Rosso_>tried that before
[19:33:13]<Rosso_>i made a snapshot
[19:33:21]<Rosso_>so will go back to that one
[19:33:44]<jostie>Deleting the task + killing php + restarting queue-runner should work
[19:33:51]<jostie>let me know what you learn :)
[19:34:28]<Rosso_>i learned a lot last weeks :)
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[19:34:41]<jostie>I just started using aegir as wel
[19:34:55]<jostie>Iam not yet comfortable using it on my production servers (yet)
[19:35:01]<Rosso_>aegir is really nice. But if webdevelopment is your core than aegir is something els
[19:35:17]<Rosso_>the perfomance is much better.
[19:35:17]<jostie>but is more because of my own incompetence at the moment hehe
[19:35:40]<Rosso_>use 4 nginx servers now and it goes much better and aegir really deploys well and fast
[19:35:51]<jostie>Is nginx that much better than apache?
[19:36:29]<Rosso_>for me it is much better. much higher performance, but more thing to solve on your own.
[19:36:36]<Rosso_>i used barracuda
[19:36:46]<jostie>the omegacc scripts?
[19:36:56]<Rosso_>and that doesn't have web cluster for nginx
[19:37:04]<Rosso_>so build it yourself
[19:37:23]<Rosso_>i can provide you a simple manual i made for my collegues
[19:37:35]<Rosso_>do you use solr ?
[19:37:42]<jostie>Wow! Ill never decline lessons ;)
[19:37:53]<jostie>no not at the moment
[19:39:03]<Rosso_>i made several server instances and tested them with jmeter
[19:40:21]<jostie>I have never had clients with search needs to justify using solr
[19:41:06]<Rosso_>are you experienced with drupal?
[19:41:19]<jostie>since drupal 4.5
[19:41:26]<jostie>as a programmer and themer
[19:41:37]<jostie>over 50 websites now
[19:42:29]<jostie>http://www.darioncm.com/
[19:42:40]<jostie>http://www.ilsf.lu/
[19:42:44]<jostie>sorry for the dutch ;)
[19:43:01]<Rosso_>ik ben ook nederlander :)
[19:43:07]<jostie>nice!
[19:44:13]<Rosso_>Looks nice
[19:44:41]<Rosso_>make all templates yourself?
[19:45:55]<Rosso_>hosting-queue-runner doesn't start after reboot
[19:46:07]<jostie>No, i own my own company. I concern myself with programming, theme implementation and consulting. At my office we have other freelancers: copywriter, designer and interaction designer.
[19:46:28]<jostie>And a few companies use me as external specialist
[19:46:44]<jostie>to proxy drupal services to me
[19:46:49]<Rosso_>sounds like a nice job
[19:47:39]<jostie>*telephone*
[19:50:36]<Rosso_>everything works again. Remove (purged) Drush -> apt-get install drush -> /etc/init.d/hosting-xxxxx start
[19:50:50]<jostie>Ah that will do the job :)
[19:51:17]<jostie>Iam using wheezy, I had to backport. Always nice :(
[19:51:31]<Rosso_>lol
[19:52:28]<Rosso_>most of your customers are in the finance business?
[19:53:09]<jostie>not exactly http://www.pretpark-de-valkenier.nl/ :P
[19:53:42]<Rosso_>also i nice one
[19:54:03]<Rosso_>i made andyschleckofficial.com and more cyclist.
[19:54:29]<jostie>netjes!
[19:54:55]<Rosso_>building a hosting enviroment for another company
[19:55:17]<jostie>Iam looking to advance my own. I was inspired by a presentation by mig5
[19:55:20]<Rosso_>so no new sites, but build > 100 drupal sites
[19:55:27]<jostie>yeah. me too
[19:55:33]<jostie>so migrating isn't easy ;)
[19:56:12]<jostie>I wan't to move towards the zero touch approach
[19:56:26]<Rosso_>we are doing the same
[19:56:27]<jostie>but since none of my sites used features. Thats gonna be a real ****
[19:57:14]<Rosso_>yep
[19:57:27]<jostie>Do you use skype?
[19:57:34]<Rosso_>yes
[19:57:53]<Rosso_>my linkedin address
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[03:23:58]<olak>hey
[03:23:58]<hefring>que tal
[03:24:10]<olak>trying to import a site into aegir
[03:24:16]<olak>and get a big strange msg
[03:24:31]<olak>Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database. Hint: This error often occurs when Drush is trying to bootstrap a site that has not been installed or does not have a configured database.
[03:24:40]<olak>while my db credentials are ok
[03:24:47]<olak>the import fails all the time
[03:25:25]<olak>and my question is: does this happen becasue on the previous server i had drush 5.2 and now aegir runs with drush 4.5 ?
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[03:31:08]<wamilton>olak: any number of things can cause that problem, but probably not the drush difference
[03:31:24]<olak>ok thanx for the hint!
[03:31:41]<wamilton>olak: having a # in any of your db credentials will cause it, for example
[03:32:29]<wamilton>olak: I can be more helpful if you spell out the actual steps you're following
[03:32:50]<olak>ok
[03:33:10]<olak>i did a backup of the whole drupal instalation on server A
[03:33:21]<olak>exported the dbases with backup+migrate
[03:33:44]<olak>on server B untar the backup in var/aegir/platforms/platformA
[03:34:09]<olak>manualy created new dbases and imported the old ones
[03:34:23]<olak>made new users and pass and edites the settings.php for each site
[03:34:33]<olak>then created platformA in aegir
[03:34:50]<olak>verified it and it found the sites but stuck in importing them
[03:34:51]<olak>.
[03:35:35]<wamilton>olak: are the sites on the same platform and each in a separate subdir with the same name as their respective URI's ?
[03:35:49]<olak>yeap
[03:36:17]<wamilton>olak: if you cd into one of those subdirs and do `drush sqlc` what happens?
[03:36:37]<olak>nothing
[03:36:42]<wamilton>womp womp
[03:36:59]<wamilton>do you have a settings.php in that subdir?
[03:37:06]<olak>mmmm for some reason, settings.php is empty now!
[03:37:17]<olak>at least the part that were the credentials
[03:37:24]<wamilton>olak: yes, this can happen
[03:37:41]<olak>ok, so i`d do it from scratch then
[03:37:48]<olak>and see if it works
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[03:39:10]<olak>thanx for your time
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[03:41:07]<wamilton>olak: no problem, what I would suggest is that you try verifying the platform with drush, and then invoke provision-save for one site, check its settings.php, and then invoke provision-import for the new drush alias for that site
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[03:41:54]<olak>how can i invoke provision-save ?
[03:42:02]<olak>havent seen that in aegir
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[03:46:37]<wamilton>olak: http://mig5.net/content/manage-your-aegir-system-command-line
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[09:52:26]<hefring>community => Environments and site life-cycle => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/environments-and-site-life-cycle