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[17:11:24]<rosso_>hello all
[17:12:38]<rosso_>after making a remoteserver (http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30) apache won't go to the right site. Restarting apache showing this : NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[17:13:13]<rosso_>what am i doing wrong? added server and verify is ok, clone and migrate to the server works
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[17:33:19]<mig5>rosso_: that message is harmless. are you sure your site resolves in DNS to the correct IP address of the relevant server?
[17:34:24]<rosso_>hello Mig5, indeed it is harmless, i just saw that i copied the platform wrong.
[17:36:04]<rosso_>trying to migrate a 40+ multisite to aegir. some of them are real busy and have new content each minute. Didn't find the right solution to migrate them
[17:36:14]<rosso_>but it seems to work now
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[20:21:18]<marvil07>It was my first time installing aegir
[20:21:37]<marvil07>I found little bug on documentation at http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400#Adding_backports_for_or_manua...
[20:23:55]<marvil07>"If you are running Debian wheezy or later, or Ubuntu Natty 11.04 or later, you don't need to do anything here." suggests that whezzy drush(5.4-1) is OK, but it is not now, I only installed aegir successfully with squeeze-backports drush(4.5-2~bpo60+1)
[20:26:11]<marvil07>so I guess it is needed to suggest what I have done, on wheezy, use pinning to get the right drush
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[23:18:55]<omega8cc>messages?
[23:18:55]<hefring>omega8cc: 14 hours 20 min ago <Deciphered> tell omega8cc Was hopping I could borrow you for a few minutes on an issue with Simpletest/Nginx/Aegir (http://drupal.org/node/1713642). Have done a fair amount of digging, but need some help.
[23:19:36]<omega8cc>hefring: tell Deciphered: it works for me, see http://drupal.org/node/1713642#comment-6491078
[23:19:37]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1713642 => Tests throw exceptions that hostmaster 6.x-1.x passes => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, postponed (maintainer needs more info), 12 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[23:19:37]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when Deciphered is around.
[23:21:05]<omega8cc>hefring: tell realityloop: check http://drupal.org/node/1713642#comment-6491078
[23:21:07]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1713642 => Tests throw exceptions that hostmaster 6.x-1.x passes => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, postponed (maintainer needs more info), 12 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[23:21:07]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around.
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[02:45:44]<anarcat>ergonlogic: do you remember if we transcribed our chat with darthsteven about the 2.0 roadmap somewhereÉ
[02:45:46]<anarcat>?
[02:46:00]<anarcat>helmo: log pointer?
[02:46:02]<anarcat>helmo: log pointer
[02:46:06]<anarcat>er
[02:46:14]<anarcat>wtf is that bot's name
[02:46:16]<anarcat>hi
[02:46:16]<hefring>bonjour
[02:46:18]<anarcat>ah
[02:46:21]<anarcat>hefring: log pointer
[02:46:21]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-09-18#T273481
[02:46:24]<anarcat>sorry helmo
[02:48:22]<anarcat>found it
[02:48:51]<anarcat>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-09-10#T267855
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[02:56:11]<anarcat>darthsteven / ergonlogic : i am writing a summary of that chat here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/UCralN1uQtSd
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[03:09:22]<anarcat>darthsteven: ping
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[03:10:43]<darthsteven>anarcat: Pong
[03:10:59]<anarcat>darthsteven: you have a copy of that 2.x release schedule?
[03:11:01]<anarcat>the pad died
[03:11:21]<anarcat>i have a copy of the chat we had, so i may be able to rebuild it, but it would be nice to not waste that time
[03:11:49]<darthsteven>Ah :(
[03:12:02]<anarcat>yeah.
[03:12:03]<darthsteven>I don't think I do
[03:12:08]<anarcat>ergonlogic couldn't find it either
[03:12:16]<anarcat>pad.riseup.net expires after 30 days
[03:12:26]<darthsteven>Did we not post it on the community site too?
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[03:13:02]<anarcat>i don't know
[03:13:13]<anarcat>i didn't because i wanted to give you guys the scoop
[03:13:45]<darthsteven>I think we agreed three key features for 2.x maybe
[03:13:57]<darthsteven>But those are reflected in the issue queues
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[03:14:19]<darthsteven>I think
[03:14:41]<anarcat>i'm reviewing the chat we had, i'll rewrite something
[03:14:59]<darthsteven>Ok
[03:16:05]<anarcat>ergonlogic: if you could pull out what you had on your slides, that would be useful
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[03:17:26]<darthsteven>Some of the issues are somewhat non-trivial though
[03:17:46]<darthsteven>Like running provision commands on remote servers
[03:18:06]<anarcat>https://pad.riseup.net/p/UCralN1uQtSd
[03:18:57]<anarcat>darthsteven / ergonlogic : ^
[03:19:34]<anarcat>omega8cc: ping
[03:21:27]<omega8cc>anarcat: pong
[03:21:31]<anarcat>omega8cc: hi!
[03:21:42]<anarcat>omega8cc: did you end up having a copy of the 2.x release roadmap?
[03:21:48]<anarcat>schedule, i should say
[03:22:04]<anarcat>omega8cc: in any case, please review and comment on https://pad.riseup.net/p/UCralN1uQtSd - which i will try to announce today
[03:23:57]<anarcat>omega8cc / darthsteven / mig5 : anyways, please take some time to review https://pad.riseup.net/p/UCralN1uQtSd before i send it out
[03:24:10]<anarcat>i'll flesh it out with some text as i go along
[03:25:21]<omega8cc>anarcat: where are you sending it out? :) I probably missed something as I didn't see it before
[03:26:34]<omega8cc>full rewrite in D7? there was consensus to skip D7, I think?
[03:26:40]<anarcat>omega8cc: i had sent you this in a privmsg before munich
[03:26:53]<anarcat>omega8cc: well, we discussed it again, and we are reconsidering that
[03:27:02]<omega8cc>anarcat: hmm, where? I never received it..
[03:27:04]<anarcat>people are worried that the jump from d6 to d8 would be too hard
[03:27:23]<anarcat>it's a different document now anyways, the original one was just the 2.x part
[03:27:33]<mtndan>Hi folks. I'm using aegir-up and am wondering if I can access sites in the vagrant aegir vm via Drush remote aliases from my host
[03:28:07]<omega8cc>yeah, d8 moves and changes so fast, that it is hard to follow, but BOA head supports latest D8, so it is fully possible
[03:28:31]<anarcat>well, we can support installing d8 no problem
[03:28:33]<omega8cc>thus, I'm not sure if we really need to go with D7
[03:28:37]<anarcat>but porting the frontend to d8 seems a bit premature
[03:28:44]<omega8cc>yeah
[03:28:47]<omega8cc>probably
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[03:32:16]<anarcat>darthsteven: you mentionned having a list of stuff we'd need to pull out of core, care to document it somewhere?
[03:32:42]<darthsteven>Yup, will do
[03:35:38]<omega8cc>yeah, I plan to find the time for proper nginx config cleanup, I mean, make as much as possible optional, but still used by default, just with option like vanilla/minimal or tuned config
[03:36:15]<omega8cc>so best of both worlds
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[03:41:17]<ergonlogic>mtndan: hi, there's a command in drush-vagrant (val) to build such aliases, but I'm uncertain that it works with aegir-up currently
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[03:41:47]<mtndan>thanks ergonlogic - doesn't seem to. ah well
[03:42:04]<ergonlogic>mtndan: I'll see what I can do
[03:42:42]<mtndan>ergonlogic - one more q, is the /var/aegir/platforms/.…. directory supposed to mount on a shared folder so you can edit sites from the host?
[03:43:29]<ergonlogic>mtndan: we need a patch to be accepted into Vagrant before that'll work properly
[03:43:45]<mtndan>ah ok
[03:44:24]<omega8cc>anarcat: btw, paypal subscription sent a minute ago
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[03:44:39]<anarcat>thanks
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[03:44:55]<anarcat>omega8cc: i gotta say however, i wasn't able to do much work in the last month, as i was on a 3 week vacation
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[03:46:28]<omega8cc>anarcat: it was expected, it was a summer, right? the dev fund is like a bank account, the money don't have any expiration date ;)
[03:46:47]<anarcat>yeah ok
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[04:08:14]<mtndan>ergonlogic: do you know if using the regular drupal7 blueprint with drupal-up, you can setup multiple sites/vhosts on the same vagrant vm? I mean, i know i could manually do that but is there any script or drush command?
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[04:13:41]<ergonlogic>mtndan: to my knowledge the only drush extension that'll write vhosts for you is 'provision', which is part of aegir
[04:14:30]<mtndan>ok, thank you
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[04:51:28]<anarcat>darthsteven: so i'll publish that text
[04:51:31]<anarcat>https://pad.riseup.net/p/UCralN1uQtSd
[04:51:33]<anarcat>ergonlogic: ^
[04:52:11]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yep, looks good
[04:52:21]<ergonlogic>anarcat: I added a little toward the bottom
[04:52:47]<ergonlogic>anarcat: basically, that a design goal was to better leverage the very common drupal contrib modules
[05:02:14]<anarcat>yes
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[05:23:01]<busla>greetings
[05:23:26]<busla>kudos to all the brains and fingers behind Ægir
[05:23:31]<busla>aMAZING
[05:24:21]<busla>has anyone here had problems with the global.inc settings not being recognized?
[05:24:56]<busla>I´ve been surfing the community pages but haven´t found any solution yet
[05:25:43]<anarcat>thanks!
[05:25:45]<anarcat>no
[05:26:20]<busla>I did find this guide http://groups.drupal.org/node/101274 from 2010 that suggested I chmod´ed /var/aegir/config
[05:26:21]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/101274 => Customizing Site Settings in an Aegir Environment => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[05:26:33]<busla>hopefully I didn´t mess anything up
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[05:27:18]<anarcat>wow, 2010
[05:27:23]<anarcat>what chmod did you do?
[05:27:28]<busla>a+x
[05:27:40]<busla>didn´t look at the date until afterwards :/
[05:27:50]<anarcat>that should be okay
[05:27:55]<busla>great
[05:28:38]<anarcat>global.inc is included from the generated settings.php, see if the site really has that include
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[05:34:53]<busla>well the code is there
[05:35:08]<busla> # Additional host wide configuration settings. Useful for safely specifying c$
[05:35:08]<busla> if (file_exists('/var/aegir/config/includes/global.inc')) {
[05:35:08]<busla> include_once('/var/aegir/config/includes/global.inc');
[05:35:09]<busla> }
[05:35:14]<busla>oops..
[05:36:03]<anarcat>yes
[05:44:06]<busla>weird..
[05:44:09]<busla>so.. my sites are not picking up upload_max_filesize and post_max_size
[05:44:53]<ergonlogic>busla: those settings can't be set that way
[05:45:22]<busla>by changing the global.inc you mean?
[05:45:50]<ergonlogic>yes
[05:46:12]<ergonlogic>ini_set doesn't work for file sizes
[05:46:34]<ergonlogic>check out: https://redmine.koumbit.net/projects/aegirvps-clients/wiki/Changing_PHP_...
[05:46:35]<busla>ok.. so I should look into the vhost injection method?
[05:46:54]<ergonlogic>yep, described in some detail in that link
[05:48:40]<busla>nice one, thanks.
[05:48:58]<busla>so for a global vhost injection.. how would I make that happen?
[05:49:53]<ergonlogic>don't do this bit: 'if ($uri == "example.com") {'
[05:56:50]<busla>in which file in the .drush dir do I insert the code? hostmaster, server_localhost or server_master?
[05:56:59]<busla>create a new file maybe?
[05:58:01]<anarcat>darthsteven: still around?
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[06:06:23]<ergonlogic>busla: I'd suggest a new file
[06:06:45]<ergonlogic>busla: the others are likely to get rewritten on an upgrade, I believe
[06:08:19]<busla>ergonlogic: any naming convention I should follow
[06:09:27]<ergonlogic>busla: as long as it ends in .drush.inc you'll be ok
[06:12:11]<busla>I guess this conversation could be copied here :-) http://community.aegirproject.org/node/73
[06:12:19]<anarcat>ergonlogic / darthsteven : publish the said article here: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/another-stab-short-and-long-te...
[06:12:31]<anarcat>hefring: tell omega8cc that i published the roadmap article here: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/another-stab-short-and-long-te...
[06:12:31]<hefring>anarcat: I'll pass that on when omega8cc is around.
[06:21:13]<busla>ergonlogic : no changes after I restarted Apache
[06:21:55]<ergonlogic>busla: what did you name the function?
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[06:22:55]<busla>ergonlogic : globalsettings_provision_apache_vhost_config
[06:23:10]<hefring>community => Another stab at the short and long term roadmap for Aegir 2.x and 3.x => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/another-stab-short-and-long-te...
[06:23:20]<busla>it takes an $url .. which it shouldn´t since it´s global
[06:23:53]<ergonlogic>the function signature should probably remain the same
[06:24:07]<ergonlogic>so, when you verify a site, do you see the message?
[06:24:48]<busla>verifying now ...
[06:27:15]<busla>yes... see it
[06:27:29]<busla>yes .. it´s working
[06:27:41]<busla>editing the wiki now :-)
[06:29:13]<busla>ergonlogic : thanks!
[06:33:56]<ergonlogic>busla: no problem
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[07:01:05]<marvil07|away>how to fix documentation? http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400#Adding_backports_for_or_manua...
[07:01:33]<marvil07|away>"If you are running Debian wheezy or later, or Ubuntu Natty 11.04 or later, you don't need to do anything here." suggests that whezzy drush(5.4-1) is OK, but it is not now, I only installed aegir successfully with squeeze-backports drush(4.5-2~bpo60+1)
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[07:01:51]<marvil07>so I guess it is needed to suggest what I have done, on wheezy, use pinning to get the right drush
[07:05:25]<marvil07>anarcat: maybe the aegir debian package dependenxy should stablish the "less than 5" version constraint? ^
[07:05:41]<anarcat>marvil07: that sounds like a good idea
[07:06:17]<marvil07>it was really tricky to figure out the problem(at least for me as newbie aegir user :-p)
[07:07:25]<marvil07>anarcat: do you want me to provide a patch? (if so, where is the debian package versioned?)
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[07:09:12]* marvil07 foun dit on http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/tree
[07:09:54]<anarcat>yep
[07:10:03]<anarcat>open an issue at the very least
[07:10:14]<marvil07>anarcat: will do, thanks
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[07:55:31]<marvil07>anarcat: http://drupal.org/node/1788398 < there the patch for review :-)
[07:55:32]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1788398 => Force dependency to drush < 5 => Provision, Debian package, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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