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[11:55:12]<milkmiruku>does/can aegir log activity to file?
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[13:46:51]<grobot>ok to ask for help writing contrib tests here? want to test *offsite* form submission (payment gateway)
[13:47:03]<grobot>argh wrong channel :P
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[17:24:07]<lsolesen1>When upgrading in Aegir, I get some missins warnings for modules I have disabled and uninstalled. How can I fix those?
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[17:46:41]<carwin>good evening #aegir
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[21:49:22]<carwin>what mail system does aegir use by default with the debian package?
[21:49:58]<carwin>postfix?
[21:55:35]<carwin>I guess it'll just use what's installed
[22:14:10]<larsweb>carwin, the default drupal just uses the
[22:14:34]<larsweb>default mail-system. my guess is that aegir uses drupal as base!
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[22:16:08]<carwin>larsweb: thanks, I'm sure you're right, my question was really whether or not the install script for debian chose a particular mail system in the case that none were installed.
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[23:38:50]<carwin>I've got an old Drupal6 site I'm trying to get over to Aegir, however it uses some module that requires a library be placed in `sites/all/libraries`. What do?
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[00:29:01]<larsweb>carwin, make a custom platform for that site?
[00:31:02]<larsweb>can i make an "auto-import" of a new platform in aegir? .... I want to push a drush makefile to aegir and then have it setup a platform using that?
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[00:51:02]<carwin>larsweb: I ended up just doing a symlink
[00:51:29]<carwin>larsweb: and you should be able to do an auto-import type of thing with drush
[00:52:57]<larsweb>carwin, thanks! do you have a link telling how to do that with drush?
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[00:55:29]<carwin>larsweb: do you already have a makefile for the platform you want to create?
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[00:55:51]<larsweb>yes! ... just a very basic one for testing!
[00:56:23]<carwin>ok so assuming you're the aegir user, you need to generate a drush alias for the platform
[00:56:33]<larsweb>ok
[00:56:42]<carwin>aegir does this for you when you add a new platform, get ready for paste:
[00:56:55]<carwin>drush --root='/var/aegir/platforms/drupal-6.22' provision-save '@platform_drupal622' --context_type='platform' --makefile='/var/aegir/makefiles/drupal-6.22.make'
[00:57:12]<carwin>(assuming your platform is drupal-6.22)
[00:57:17]<larsweb>nice! ;-)
[00:57:20]<larsweb>thanks
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[00:57:43]<carwin>that just creates an alias larsweb, there's one more bit to actually have it build
[00:58:03]<carwin>drush @yourplatformname provision-verify
[00:58:04]<larsweb>yes,.... what about the content in aegir?
[00:58:23]<carwin>which will start up drush make
[00:58:31]<carwin>and create your platform
[00:59:23]<carwin>rofl -- I just found where all my notes about this came from: http://mig5.net/content/manage-your-aegir-system-command-line
[01:00:21]<carwin>larsweb: ^^ that'll explain better than I if you want more detail. It looks like you have one more step if you want that new platform to be available via hostmaster: `drush @hostmaster hosting-import @yourplatformname`
[01:02:14]<carwin>ah of course, it's mig5's site
[01:04:49]<larsweb>thanks a lot! :-) I'll study that
[01:08:28]<carwin>larsweb: no problemo
[01:09:03]<larsweb>:-)
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[01:53:58]<fubar10>In Aegir, what's the difference between a client, platform, server and site?
[01:55:59]<benjf>fubar10: http://community.aegirproject.org/intro
[01:56:26]<benjf>most of us, especially just starting out, will have a single server
[01:56:54]<benjf>a platform is a site 'template' - an installation profile or distribution (or a custom site)
[01:57:07]<benjf>sites are based on platforms
[01:57:15]<benjf>clients own sites
[01:57:49]<benjf>*I'm also pretty new, so anyone please correct me if this is not correct :)
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[01:59:05]<benjf>i've only been playing around with test sites. i have a single server and a single client. Multiple platforms and multiple sites
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[02:56:56]<fubar10>Hmm thanks for the information benjf!
[02:57:16]<fubar10>I just realized that I can access my initial boa instlal two ways....
[02:57:27]<fubar10>o1.domain and master.domain
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[04:23:08]<fubar10>Is there any good guides to importing an existing site into Aegir?
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[05:08:06]<fubar10>How do I access Chive?
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[06:03:33]<milkmiruku>http://community.aegirproject.org/content/importing-complete-drupal-plat...
[06:04:31]<milkmiruku>and chive.aegir.example.org
[06:06:05]<milkmiruku>i'm using BOA also. o1 should be your octopus satellite aegir instance with preloaded platforms available
[06:09:41]<milkmiruku>fubar10: ping
[06:10:52]<fubar10>Ah. Thank you!
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[07:34:23]<milkmiruku>np
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[07:51:07]<omega8cc>messages?
[07:51:34]<omega8cc>fubar10: http://omega8.cc/import-your-sites-to-aegir-in-8-easy-steps-109
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[07:53:24]<omega8cc>also: http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/NOTES.txt
[07:54:15]<Mfawzy>omega8cc, is there some way to change the hostname after installing Aegir without breaking Aegir down ?
[07:54:29]<Mfawzy>... I need to change the domain that is being used for hostmaster ...
[07:54:53]<omega8cc>Mfawzy: you mean just Aegir control panel URL?
[07:55:07]<Mfawzy>yes, the Hostmaster URL
[07:55:16]<Mfawzy>... need to change all instances to that
[07:55:20]<omega8cc>then why not to add an alias?
[07:55:29]<Mfawzy>specially when a site is disabled...
[07:55:48]<Mfawzy>it takes me to the _main_ site in the node title of the hostmaster installation
[07:56:26]<omega8cc>ah, that is why we have disabled this in BOA
[07:56:37]<Mfawzy>BOA ?
[07:56:38]<omega8cc>we display generic Under Construction
[07:56:58]<omega8cc>it is a bad idea to reveal Aegir URL that way, by the way
[07:57:22]<omega8cc>Mfawzy: http://omega8.cc/open-source/projects
[07:57:22]<Mfawzy>people just register from this URL anyways !!
[07:58:04]<Mfawzy>why do you say it is a bad idea ?
[07:58:09]<Mfawzy>a security threat ?
[07:58:35]<omega8cc>ah, then yes, it is a problem, but adding an alias should help for most of the issues, only that for disabled sites will be still hard to fix without renaming the site
[07:59:06]<omega8cc>yes, I think it is a bad idea for security reasons
[07:59:46]<Mfawzy>great then :)
[08:00:30]<Mfawzy>also... where can I upgrade hostmaster's Drupal core when a new release is out .... or should I wait till it comes to the Aegir project
[08:00:44]<omega8cc>maybe it would be possible to rename it manually - you know, by editing vhost or even only itd drushrc files and related files in the .drush directory, not sure, never did that
[08:00:50]<Mfawzy>(as I do have my d6 hostmaster exposed to everyone now) :D
[08:01:51]<Mfawzy>yes, thought of that too, but luckily we are just still in staging, so I can redo a clean installation and migrate all the code over, which looks a little cleaner anyways :)
[08:02:02]<omega8cc>you should never upgrade drupal core in the hostmaster, even if it should just work, since the only way to do it is to replace manually, which is totally against... everything ;)
[08:02:22]<Mfawzy>yes :D
[08:02:54]<Mfawzy>but that means I'm stuck with the version shipped with Aegir ?
[08:03:28]<omega8cc>yes, but I don't think it is a problem, unless you are on 5.x :)
[08:03:50]<Mfawzy>:D nope, luckily Aegir doesn't ship that :D
[08:04:15]<Mfawzy>thanks for all the great contributions to the project btw :) your website have told me a lot ;)
[08:04:20]<Mfawzy>taught **
[08:04:28]<omega8cc>nice, thanks!
[08:04:50]<Mfawzy>have a great day there ;) and thanks again, bye
[08:04:56]<omega8cc>bye
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[10:02:44]<realityloop>seen omega8cc
[10:02:44]<hefring>omega8cc was last seen in #aegir 1 hour 57 min ago saying 'bye'.
[10:06:14]<realityloop>omega8cc: what issue is holding up using Aegir's inbuilt SSL settings?
[10:06:19]<realityloop>when using Barracuda
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[10:23:53]<omega8cc>realityloop: can you control which IP will be used by which site? is the site/cert/ip pair permanent? or maybe it can be lost on server verify? how to avoid picking the main IP already used by global SSL proxy in Barracuda? this list is probably still too long, but I must admit we didn't re-evaluate/test this for months
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[10:30:50]<omega8cc>realityloop: so, for example: http://drupal.org/node/1126640 and http://drupal.org/node/1126638
[10:30:52]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1126640 => move the SSL IP allocation to the frontend => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, needs work, 24 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[10:30:52]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1126638 => two sites can take the same server IP for SSL => Provision, Code, major, active, 6 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[10:33:28]<omega8cc>things like that just must not happen, or the feature is not production ready, imo
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[10:41:24]<realityloop>thanks
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