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| [18:21:41] | <CrawfordComeaux> | Can anyone recommend some best practices or things to watch out for with Aegir? |
| [18:21:41] | <hefring> | CrawfordComeaux: 14 hours 35 min ago <omega8cc> tell CrawfordComeaux: There is a serious flaw in Aegir, only one, but really awful - it doesn't make a coffee for me! |
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| [00:17:27] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ping |
| [00:20:24] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: Hi, will you be hosting office hours in 40 mins? |
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| [00:20:36] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: ermmm |
| [00:20:38] | <darthsteven> | sure |
| [00:20:56] | <darthsteven> | I've been super busy recently, but should be able to host them today |
| [00:21:15] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: k, I'll have some questions for you :) |
| [00:21:50] | <darthsteven> | okay, cool |
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| [01:00:47] | <darthsteven> | Good afternoon! |
| [01:00:57] | <darthsteven> | office hours? |
| [01:00:57] | <hefring> | Twice weekly sessions where people knowledgeable about Aegir will hang out in IRC and help resolve issues and fix bugs, for more details see here: http://community.aegirproject.org/content/office-hours |
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| [01:04:15] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: you may ask your questions :) |
| [01:05:04] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: great! it's more of a code review, if you're cool with that |
| [01:05:06] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: pong |
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| [01:05:46] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: hi, I was just going to ask darthsteven for some help with the stuff about moving sites out of platforms we discussed friday |
| [01:05:52] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: not sure I can do much actual work, but I'm planning to do a day of Aegir work this Saturday |
| [01:06:08] | <ergonlogic> | basically, re-writing site_path in the site context... |
| [01:06:32] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: ok, well, I've been working on http://drupal.org/node/1205458#comment-6633286 |
| [01:06:33] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1205458 => Move modules/themes/libraries/files/private directories out of /sites/example.com => Provision, Code, major, needs work, 42 comments, 4 IRC mentions |
| [01:06:45] | <ergonlogic> | and it's coming along nicely |
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| [01:07:00] | <darthsteven> | ah yes, super excited to see that issue moving along |
| [01:07:06] | <ergonlogic> | but I think I need to re-write site_path in the site context |
| [01:07:18] | <ergonlogic> | in order to generate a proper setting.php, etc. |
| [01:07:27] | <ergonlogic> | and it seems a little tricky |
| [01:08:45] | <darthsteven> | so you're moving the sites folder out of the platform? |
| [01:08:47] | <ergonlogic> | bfore starting to mess with the site_path, everything I've done there works, so long as I use the default tokenized data_dir |
| [01:08:52] | <ergonlogic> | that's the idea |
| [01:09:01] | <darthsteven> | or each sites/site-a.example.com folder? |
| [01:09:09] | <ergonlogic> | optionally, really, as it'll default to its usual place |
| [01:09:17] | <ergonlogic> | yes |
| [01:09:22] | <darthsteven> | ah right |
| [01:09:45] | <ergonlogic> | I've defined a new property in the http_server |
| [01:10:01] | <darthsteven> | okay |
| [01:10:12] | <ergonlogic> | actually, it's in the generic server, as it could be useful elsewhere |
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| [01:10:23] | <ergonlogic> | but it's only implemented in http_public |
| [01:10:48] | <ergonlogic> | then _provision_drupal_create_directories() has been completely re-written |
| [01:11:33] | <ergonlogic> | doing essentially the same thing, but split up into individual functions, etc. |
| [01:12:02] | <ergonlogic> | adding a hook to alter sire directories, etc. |
| [01:12:02] | <ergonlogic> | it'll need another hook in there to alter the $data_dir, I think |
| [01:12:41] | <ergonlogic> | because we'll need to be consistent with how we create the site_path in the site context |
| [01:13:22] | <ergonlogic> | I've refactored quite a bit of this, so I'm not sure I'm making sense, outside the context of my patches |
| [01:13:39] | <ergonlogic> | sorru if I'm confusing things |
| [01:13:56] | <darthsteven> | I'm reading the patch |
| [01:14:00] | <darthsteven> | so it's making sense |
| [01:15:21] | <ergonlogic> | ok, good |
| [01:15:37] | <ergonlogic> | I'm not sure re-writing site_path is a good idea, actually |
| [01:16:34] | <ergonlogic> | I wonder if drush won't choke on the lack of a platform, if we just point directly to the site's data_dir |
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| [01:17:32] | <ergonlogic> | I was thinking of maybe add a site_data_dir (or site_install_dir...) and then patching backup, create_settings_file(), etc. to point there instead... |
| [01:17:48] | <darthsteven> | Drush will need a valid platform path to work from |
| [01:17:54] | <ergonlogic> | sorry, adding site_data_dir to the site context |
| [01:18:16] | <darthsteven> | And Drush will need to be able to bootstrap these sites |
| [01:18:22] | <darthsteven> | will it be able to do so? |
| [01:18:27] | <ergonlogic> | not sure |
| [01:18:49] | <darthsteven> | I presume that a symlink will be added to the actual Drupal sites directory or something? |
| [01:19:18] | <ergonlogic> | yep, that's what happens at the very end of _provision_drupal_create_directories() |
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| [01:20:20] | <ergonlogic> | re-writing site_path has so far triggered site installs to roll-back, so I expect that's the problem |
| [01:20:44] | <ergonlogic> | does adding another property to the site context make sense then? |
| [01:21:16] | <darthsteven> | sure |
| [01:21:29] | <darthsteven> | 'aegir_site_path' or similar? |
| [01:21:44] | <darthsteven> | 'site_data_dir'? |
| [01:21:59] | <darthsteven> | adding one of those would be fine I think |
| [01:22:05] | <ergonlogic> | yeah, I was thinking of the latter, for consistency |
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| [01:22:24] | <ergonlogic> | k, I'll give that a shot |
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| [01:44:31] | <ergonlogic> | hmm, I'm generating a setting.php file now, but drushrc.php looks a little trickier |
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| [01:54:13] | <ergonlogic> | ok, got the drushrc.php now |
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| [02:11:02] | <ergonlogic> | almost there... now I get install.php |
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| [02:32:08] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: so, all the proper files appear to be generated, and the task log shows no errors. |
| [02:32:11] | <ergonlogic> | in fact, 'drush sqlc' works via alias |
| [02:32:44] | <ergonlogic> | or from the <platform>/sites/<site> dir |
| [02:32:54] | <ergonlogic> | which is symlinked to the data_dir |
| [02:32:54] | <darthsteven> | interesting |
| [02:32:58] | <darthsteven> | very interesting :) |
| [02:33:14] | <ergonlogic> | but the site is presenting install.php |
| [02:33:24] | <ergonlogic> | almost there, I think... |
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| [02:36:11] | <ergonlogic> | form within the data_dir 'drush status --root=/var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-2.x' |
| [02:36:15] | <ergonlogic> | works |
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| [03:05:21] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: any ideas? |
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| [03:06:34] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: hum? |
| [03:06:47] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I made all the changes we discussed friday |
| [03:06:54] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: re moving sites out of platforms |
| [03:07:00] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: it's almost working |
| [03:07:15] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: but now when a site is installed, it's going to install.php |
| [03:07:35] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i would need to sit next to you for this |
| [03:07:40] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: check the documentroot of the vhost |
| [03:07:47] | <ergonlogic> | kk |
| [03:08:20] | <anarcat> | is drush able to bootstrap the site? |
| [03:08:27] | <anarcat> | drush --root=foo --uri=bar |
| [03:08:38] | <ergonlogic> | yes |
| [03:08:48] | <ergonlogic> | as long as you pass '--root' |
| [03:08:59] | <ergonlogic> | the docroot in the vhsot is the platform |
| [03:08:59] | <anarcat> | hum. then this should work |
| [03:09:13] | <anarcat> | the vhost of the site you mean |
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| [03:09:41] | <ergonlogic> | yes, in the vhost of the site, the docroot points to the platform |
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| [03:10:35] | <anarcat> | ok, so there's a bootstrap problem |
| [03:10:45] | <anarcat> | have you tried running drush as the www-data user? |
| [03:10:57] | <ergonlogic> | nope |
| [03:11:01] | <ergonlogic> | but I'll try that |
| [03:11:18] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: btw this is the drush_exit() mess i was talking about for provisionacl https://drupal.org/node/1097880 |
| [03:11:57] | <anarcat> | hence the fun bug of the day: ~http://drupal.org/node/1097854 |
| [03:12:01] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1097854 => do not rewrite the drushrc on *all* commands => Provision, Code, normal, active, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [03:12:08] | <ergonlogic> | and I should be able to 'sqlc', for example? |
| [03:14:17] | <ergonlogic> | hmmm |
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| [03:15:04] | <ergonlogic> | ok, so drush won't bootstrap the wite as www-data |
| [03:15:05] | <ergonlogic> | s/wite/site |
| [03:16:30] | <anarcat> | ah-ah here you are |
| [03:16:34] | <anarcat> | probably a perms problem then |
| [03:16:39] | <anarcat> | try to read settings.php as the user |
| [03:21:23] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: yep |
| [03:21:40] | <ergonlogic> | chown aegir:www-data /var/aegir/clients -R |
| [03:22:01] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I assume there's potential security problems with doing that though |
| [03:22:13] | <ergonlogic> | but maybe no worse than already... ? |
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| [03:29:37] | <anarcat> | do not -R, see what fails first |
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| [03:33:56] | <ergonlogic> | for Data directory: [clients_path]/[client_name]/sites/[uri]... [client_name] and [client_name]/sites both have to be 'chgrp www-data'... |
| [03:36:42] | <ergonlogic> | sorry, that's wrong |
| [03:37:03] | <ergonlogic> | /sites/[uri] and sites/ both have to be aegir:www-data |
| [03:38:36] | <ergonlogic> | ok, wait... [client_name]/sites too |
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| [03:46:35] | <ergonlogic> | ok, so it appears to be the data_dir and two level up (.. & ../..) |
| [03:46:41] | <ergonlogic> | it's working now, btw |
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| [05:42:57] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I'm learning about aegir right now because I've been hired to develop a Saas hosting solution catering to drupal dev shops & am looking into the devops side of things. Can anyone weigh in on Ansible vs Puppet vs Chef specifically wrt Aegir? |
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| [06:26:56] | <ergonlogic> | ok |
| [06:27:04] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: logs |
| [06:27:09] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: log pointer |
| [06:27:09] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-10-22#T293527 |
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| [09:23:48] | <milkmiruku> | is best practice for adding modules to a platform/site to put them in the profiles/platformdistro/modules (and update the .make/profiler .info for rebuilding), yes? |
| [09:25:09] | <milkmiruku> | avoiding sites/*, so module dependency for migrations/etc. are properly tracked |
| [09:26:05] | <milkmiruku> | if so, is there a way of getting drush to dl to profiles/platformdistro/modules (or themes)? |
| [09:35:32] | <mig5> | darthsteven: https://github.com/computerminds/aegir_http_basic/issues/5 |
| [09:35:40] | <mig5> | any idea what would cause that? |
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| [09:46:34] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I want to use BOA for a project I've been asked to lay the foundation for, but the team that'll be picking up where I leave it is concerned about it using a LEMP stack instead of LAMP. How big of an impact from a management perspective could going with LEMP potentially have? |
| [09:49:34] | <samb_> | thanks mig5 for confirming https://github.com/computerminds/aegir_http_basic/issues/5 , was hoping someone might have run into the problem |
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| [09:57:07] | <mig5> | samb_: yeah, it's an annoying one. And I think you are quite right: the issue is that d() returns the site context at that time |
| [09:58:00] | <mig5> | although i would've thought it would still be able to grab the http service info. this stuff is not my strong point :) |
| [09:58:12] | <samb_> | cool, still got a lot to learn about aegir so I shan't tell you how long it took me to get to that point :P |
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