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[17:45:53]<cat3>hi folks - greetings from the Far East!
[17:47:57]<cat3>I only discovered Aegir yesterday, and I'm already in love it with. I spent all of last night migrating sites instead of trying to please my wife! she can't be pleased anyway.
[17:48:46]<realityloop>heh
[17:49:03]<cat3>I have one query, as I am also new to nginx! For a Drupal 6.x site, I can't seem to get imagecache working. I guess I have to find a way to build a .htaccess equivalent for nginx, or another clever way of handling this?
[17:50:12]<realityloop>cat3: did you install Aegir manually?
[17:50:27]<realityloop>or using Barracuda/BOA?
[17:50:36]<cat3>nope! I used the super Barracuda installation script on ubuntu
[17:51:00]<realityloop>it should just work.. I don't really do anything with D6 sites anymore
[17:52:29]<cat3>the site was very complicated and a mess of a million unnecessary modules, so I just copied it over statically rather than trying to deploy a new Ubercart package (the site uses Ubercart). we will be doing a migration to D7 and cleanup so i didn't want to spend too much time on migrating this site
[17:52:59]<cat3>ie, I stuck it in /static/custom_name and deployed a new site with that package
[17:53:11]<cat3>good idea! I should look to see how it is done in the pressflow package
[17:53:17]<cat3>thanks realityloop!
[17:53:49]<realityloop>yeah I always used pressflow when I was doing d6 sites
[18:00:42]<cat3>o no, I can't figure it out :( I copied the imagecache module hoping it had been patched somehow, no such luck
[18:01:25]<cat3>if anybody has any ideas, I would be very grateful!
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[18:10:00]<realityloop>cat3: http://drupal.org/node/385690
[18:10:01]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/385690 => ImageCache+Nginx without Apache does not working => ImageCache, imagecache_image module, normal, closed (fixed), 9 comments, 1 IRC mention
[18:10:13]<realityloop>cat3: http://drupal.org/node/442350
[18:10:14]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/442350 => Nginx w/ Imagecache Rewrite Rules (No Apache) - RESOLVED => 8 comments, 1 IRC mention
[18:13:20]<cat3>thanks, realityloop! i'm trying it now!
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[18:14:07]<cat3>silly question but which nginx.conf am I editing? I don't know how they are prioritised in aegir :(
[18:15:13]<cat3>nevermind, another daft question, figured it out! thanks
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[19:03:06]<cat3>all repaired! I can share if anybody is curious as to how I did it.
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[20:37:14]<Cydus>Anyone run concurrency benchmarks on omega8.cc?
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[21:01:44]<Cydus>What is the best practice for pushing code changes upstream for a site managed by the Aegir system?
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[02:46:50]<omega8cc>hefring: tell catamit3: so what is the problem with imagecache? I guess permissions on files?
[02:46:50]<hefring>omega8cc: 1 day 13 hours ago <realityloop> tell omega8cc Can you please help me with http://drupal.org/node/1841230 ?
[02:46:50]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when catamit3 is around.
[02:47:43]<omega8cc>hefring: tell realityloop: I'm a bit confused what is the environment there, as it should just work
[02:47:43]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around.
[02:48:50]<omega8cc>hefring: tell Cydus: Git - see also http://omega8.cc/library/development
[02:48:50]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when Cydus is around.
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[04:04:51]<gandhiano>to use a wildcard certificate for an aegir site, is the best approach just to edit the respective vhost file? And will this be preserved on a verify?
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[04:05:49]<gandhiano>I could also instead - and would be a much cleaner approach - make the wildcard certificate available in the list of aegir certificates, but don't know how to do this
[04:07:18]<gandhiano>because the interface only gives me the option to generate new encryption keys
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[04:57:08]<anarcat>omega8cc: ping
[04:57:39]<anarcat>omega8cc: i am about to send the second quarterly report of funding work, and i'd like your feedback
[04:58:03]<anarcat>omega8cc: i'd also like to discuss the nginx cleanup work, which seems to have stalled - i wonder where you want it to go now, or if i should not mention it at all
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[05:04:29]<omega8cc>anarcat: I didn't have enough time for this recently, but my plan is to follow mig5 advice and keep the current Nginx config default for manual install, but allow to switch it to minimum config with some simple flag, plus make the minimum config default for package based installs, so it should match your requirements, best practices and don't brake anything for existing installs on upgrade.
[05:04:44]<omega8cc>anarcat: I guess that I will need another two weeks to test everything and complete it, as I don't wish to have to support broken installs and upgrades.
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[05:05:52]<omega8cc>anarcat: from other news, BOA now supports optional install of stock Aegir 2.x with Drush 5.7
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[05:06:54]<anarcat>omega8cc: have you read my latest comments about this on the issue?
[05:07:15]<omega8cc>I think yes
[05:07:30]<anarcat>i feel i am kind of stuck with this
[05:08:27]<anarcat>there are about 6 separate issues i need feedback on, they are documented here: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/another-stab-short-and-long-te...
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[05:10:15]<omega8cc>anarcat: I know, but I believe that we should do this the way mig5 suggested and I explained above, I think I will comment on the issue directly
[05:13:52]<anarcat>omega8cc: what do you think of my suggestion of writing a contrib module for the performance improvements while keeping the out of the box install just a regular non-caching server?
[05:16:58]<omega8cc>anarcat: it can't be done that way reliably, imo, and would introduce too many moving parts and we don't need this, this can be done in a more reliable way, so we don't screw anything for existing installs
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[06:03:15]<hefring>community => Second quarterly report (Q4-2012) of Aegir funding work => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/second-quarterly-report-q4-201...
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[06:22:50]<omega8cc>anarcat: I just tweeted about the both first and second report, thanks!
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[06:32:48]<realityloop>omega8cc: ping
[06:32:48]<hefring>realityloop: 3 hours 45 min ago <omega8cc> tell realityloop: I'm a bit confused what is the environment there, as it should just work
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[06:50:58]<Cydus>What is the process for updating an existing site on Aegir with new features and configuration specified in a more recent make file?
[06:50:58]<hefring>Cydus: 4 hours 2 min ago <omega8cc> tell Cydus: Git - see also http://omega8.cc/library/development
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[07:18:35]<hefring>Git => #1530610: set a proper default for imported client if missing => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/df0f92aa88986fff...
[07:19:06]<anarcat>omega8cc: ping
[07:19:20]<anarcat>omega8cc: looking at this issue again: https://drupal.org/node/1146014
[07:19:31]<anarcat>omega8cc: how can i reproduce the duplicate client condition?
[07:22:28]<omega8cc>anarcat: add the client via node/add/client and use a space or non A-Za-z0-9 in its name
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[07:33:41]<anarcat>omega8cc: that's so weeird! :)
[07:33:50]<anarcat>omega8cc: i'm trying, but i'm stumbling upon other 2.x bugs :/
[07:33:55]<anarcat>https://drupal.org/node/1829430
[07:34:01]<anarcat>fun stuff
[07:34:38]<omega8cc>oh, I have a fix for this
[07:34:47]<omega8cc>simple
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[07:38:43]<anarcat>omega8cc: which is?
[07:38:52]<anarcat>i'm playing with invoke = TRUE here
[07:38:58]<anarcat>but it's still throwing all this shit on the console
[07:39:00]<anarcat>but at least it works
[07:39:05]<omega8cc>anarcat: it is "drush cache-clear drush"
[07:39:17]<omega8cc>anarcat: see https://drupal.org/node/1829430#comment-6742304
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[07:42:33]<anarcat>omega8cc: that doesn't work
[07:43:41]<anarcat>ie. i still get the error after the clear
[07:44:15]<anarcat>crap, i'm running drush 5.4!!
[07:44:48]<anarcat>ah blast, and that's what will end up in wheezy :(
[07:49:48]<omega8cc>anarcat: heh, Drush 5.7 works for me and only that one trick was required
[07:50:09]<omega8cc>all the rest just works
[07:51:17]<realityloop>omega8cc: do you have any time to help me with this Solr thing?
[07:51:27]<omega8cc>I had to install vanilla Aegir 2.x with newer Drush to reproduce some issues and make sure it was not just our BOA fork affected, so this is how I was able to get it up and running
[07:52:08]<anarcat>omega8cc: i assume you use the hosting-queued?
[07:52:09]<omega8cc>realityloop: not at the moment, busy with 5+ clients right now, but let's follow up in the queue
[07:52:12]<anarcat>have you tried drush 5.8?
[07:52:29]<omega8cc>anarcat: not yet, only 5.7
[07:52:36]<realityloop>omega8cc: ok, thanks. btw, have you used hostmaster import on latest BOA?
[07:52:42]<omega8cc>but I could try easily
[07:53:01]<omega8cc>realityloop: hostmaster import?
[07:53:16]<omega8cc>you mean between instances?
[07:53:31]<realityloop>omega8cc: http://drupal.org/project/hosting_remote_import
[07:53:38]<realityloop>yes
[07:53:53]<omega8cc>no, see: http://drupal.org/node/1594588
[07:53:54]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1594588 => Remote import of sites - does it work? => Octopus, Code, normal, needs work, 6 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[07:59:15]<realityloop>omega8cc: getting the following error when trying to import which seems difefrent to both issues there: The drush command 'provision-remote_import_list_sites' could not be found. Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php.
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[08:00:18]<omega8cc>the Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php is typically a sign of duplicate platform and/or sites nodes, so try to delete them first and then try again
[08:00:43]<realityloop>by duplicate you mean a previously imported instance?
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[08:02:08]<realityloop>omega8cc: trying that now.. thanks
[08:07:19]<omega8cc>realityloop: yes, it could be a result of some previous, partially completed import
[08:08:37]<hefring>Git => #1829430 fix hosting-tasks by passing invoke = TRUE to drush 5 (?) => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/26dfbd2db2b811ec...
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[08:10:04]<DominicM>Hi Guys. Can you recommend anyone who'd be willing to setup Aegir for me on AWS? I'm swamped right now and just don't have time to get everything set up but want to start testing out Aegir and everything it hast to offer
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[08:18:36]<DominicM>no one has any recommendations?
[08:18:53]<DominicM>I'm willing to pay someone obviously. I'm just working 18 hours a day and tapped out!
[08:19:25]<anarcat>i'm kind of in a bind too
[08:19:33]<anarcat>but i can ask around at koumbit, what's your deadline?
[08:19:38]<anarcat>http://lesjoiesdusysadmin.tumblr.com/post/35766321111/quand-je-mapercois...
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[08:21:55]<DominicM>Next few weeks. I'm not in a huge rush as I'm running a multisite drupal install right now. I wrote several cPanel scripts to make creating new sites and editing thinks like Site Slogan easy
[08:22:14]<DominicM>But I'm approach several hundred sites and it's starting to get extremely hard to update modules
[08:22:17]<DominicM>Add new themes, etc
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[08:22:49]<anarcat>omega8cc: i am puzzled as to why jenkins is able to install 2.x without the cache-clear...
[08:22:56]<anarcat>i wonder if it's doing something special
[08:23:02]<DominicM>I've been looking at Aegir for about a year just never had time to site down and try it. Now I've moved some of my other projects to AWS and was thinking it could be perfect for Aegir
[08:24:28]<jerryitt>DominicM: hey how do you find aws?
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[08:24:57]<anarcat>weird, there's code to clear the cache, but it's not used
[08:25:20]<anarcat>DominicM: can you write to services@koumbit.org with your request?
[08:25:39]<anarcat>omega8cc: are you sure that cache-clear is necessary? jenkins can install without it
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[08:28:28]<anarcat>omega8cc: i opened this issue re this: https://drupal.org/node/1843044
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[08:35:14]<hefring>Git => #1146014 - cleanup duplicate and owner-less client nodes => http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/0bacae924734f656...
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[08:39:53]<DominicM>anarcat, sure will do. Thanks
[08:40:00]<DominicM>Are any of you guys running Aegir on AWS right now?
[08:41:41]<anarcat>i think we have some clients doing that, but i'm not the aws expert at koumbit
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[08:44:11]<Deciphered7>anarcat: ping
[08:44:45]<anarcat>Deciphered7: pong
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[08:47:33]<Deciphered7>Hey, slow as on tablet. I've been doing a bunch of work on Hostmaster recently, Views integration (improving and additional stuff) and Rules/services integration
[08:47:52]<anarcat>yay
[08:48:02]<Deciphered7>Just thought I'd let you know in the case there is someone else working on the same aspects
[08:48:41]<anarcat>Deciphered7: definitely
[08:48:53]<anarcat>Deciphered7: i think there may be issues where you could update that status
[08:49:02]<Deciphered7>I haven't got anything ready for commit yet, but I've mostly replaced the queue task list and the sites list, using VBO for actions
[08:49:29]<anarcat>although i can't find them now
[08:49:34]<anarcat>cool
[08:49:36]<Deciphered7>The rules stuff is Github to Aegir automaton, and its mostly working
[08:49:49]<anarcat>you may want to post issues about that and update them as you go
[08:49:53]<anarcat>a sandbox would be great too
[08:50:22]<Deciphered7>Will do.
[08:51:02]<Deciphered7>Anyway, about to jump on a train, just wanted to give you a heads up.
[08:52:03]<anarcat>cool thanks
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[08:55:12]<Deciphered>anarcat: http://drupal.org/node/588728 <- I'll put my Views/VBO related patches/status updates there.
[08:55:13]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/588728 => Views integration => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, active, 9 comments, 1 IRC mention
[08:56:03]<anarcat>Deciphered: awesome
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[09:16:34]<anarcat>whoa nice
[09:26:16]<hefring>Git => fix version number so it's lower than an alpha release, see #1843090 => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/a927be9aa39353418...
[09:26:16]<hefring>Git => helper debug code for jenkins autobuilder => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/9c24b8a3dd21fb6b8...
[09:26:16]<hefring>Git => move stuff around to clarify => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/f455debdccce079ed...
[09:26:32]<anarcat>yaay
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[09:30:14]<omega8cc>wow
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[09:32:23]<anarcat>boy, that one was .. annoyingly tricky
[09:32:29]<anarcat>i had to upload drush 5.7 in our archive
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[09:43:00]<anarcat>yaay
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[10:30:24]<CrawfordComeaux>Anyone able to tell me where to find the code that's responsible for creating/customizing the drushrc.php file when a site gets imported? Or can suggest a dev tool/approach for quickly finding it? Trying to peg down a bug that results in a site's db settings not being carried over into the drushrc.
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