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| [12:00:44] | <CrawfordComeaux> | should I be cloning the git repo from drupal.org or aegirproject.org? |
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| [12:06:31] | <CrawfordComeaux> | hmmm...neither seems to be working... |
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| [12:31:54] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ping |
| [12:32:10] | <ergonlogic> | you still working on aegir? |
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| [12:41:38] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: kind of done for tonight |
| [12:41:44] | <anarcat> | you in yyz? |
| [12:41:49] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: yep |
| [12:41:57] | <ergonlogic> | I saw all your issue updates... |
| [12:42:04] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: actually hamilton |
| [12:42:10] | <ergonlogic> | I wasn't up for the party |
| [12:42:19] | <anarcat> | i understand |
| [12:42:24] | <anarcat> | bad timing |
| [12:42:27] | <ergonlogic> | yeah |
| [12:42:51] | <ergonlogic> | I'd like to ask you about a couple issues before you go, k? |
| [12:43:12] | <anarcat> | sure |
| [12:44:29] | <ergonlogic> | I saw you fixed the 2.x debian version numbering one |
| [12:44:36] | <anarcat> | yeah, that was fun |
| [12:44:44] | <anarcat> | the 2.x .debs install on jenkins now! |
| [12:45:03] | <ergonlogic> | but I've been thinking of asking for access to ci.a.o |
| [12:45:10] | <ergonlogic> | nice! |
| [12:45:18] | <anarcat> | i figured you would already have access |
| [12:45:24] | <ergonlogic> | nope |
| [12:45:34] | <anarcat> | we talked about welcoming you to the core team btw, and people are open to the idea |
| [12:45:39] | <ergonlogic> | The main reason was to see how it's structure |
| [12:45:41] | <ergonlogic> | d |
| [12:45:42] | <anarcat> | so i guess it's a question of formalities |
| [12:45:44] | <ergonlogic> | oh |
| [12:45:47] | <ergonlogic> | wow |
| [12:45:56] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [12:46:03] | <anarcat> | don't run away now :P |
| [12:46:04] | <ergonlogic> | I don't feel I contribute enough to warrant it |
| [12:46:10] | <ergonlogic> | yet |
| [12:46:21] | <anarcat> | we disagree |
| [12:46:24] | <ergonlogic> | I'm not going anywhere, buddy |
| [12:46:40] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [12:46:46] | <ergonlogic> | well, I appreciate that |
| [12:46:47] | <ergonlogic> | :) |
| [12:47:39] | <ergonlogic> | um, anyway, I guess my access to ci.a.o can wait then |
| [12:47:47] | <ergonlogic> | as for the default frontpage |
| [12:48:08] | <ergonlogic> | I think I appended to the last patch, rather than replacing it... |
| [12:48:18] | <ergonlogic> | so, it should really only be the latter half |
| [12:48:24] | <anarcat> | yeah, i figured as much |
| [12:48:47] | <ergonlogic> | I wonder how over-engineered it is though... |
| [12:48:53] | <ergonlogic> | it seems pretty basic to me |
| [12:49:01] | <ergonlogic> | but without it |
| [12:49:17] | <ergonlogic> | you need to add a content type, and a node for it |
| [12:49:38] | <anarcat> | the only over-engineered part is the customization |
| [12:49:43] | <ergonlogic> | well, I appreciate that the frontpage (for everybody), possibly add some access control... |
| [12:49:44] | <anarcat> | i think it should just be t() and that's it |
| [12:49:48] | <anarcat> | no variables, no configuration page |
| [12:49:56] | <anarcat> | just a handler and site_frontpage takes care of the rest |
| [12:50:10] | <ergonlogic> | ugh, I'm messing up my typing here, sorry |
| [12:50:17] | <ergonlogic> | not at my usual desk |
| [12:50:25] | <anarcat> | understood |
| [12:50:48] | <ergonlogic> | right |
| [12:51:20] | <ergonlogic> | so just the default message |
| [12:51:35] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [12:51:41] | <ergonlogic> | but I don't understand about not needing the hook_init part |
| [12:51:42] | <anarcat> | people can easily override it by changing the frontpage |
| [12:51:48] | <anarcat> | why would you need hook_init? |
| [12:52:16] | <ergonlogic> | so, you're suggesting pointing the site's frontpage there? |
| [12:52:29] | <ergonlogic> | I was trying to keep /hosting/sites |
| [12:52:30] | <anarcat> | yes, the site_frontpage variable |
| [12:52:34] | <ergonlogic> | for logged in users |
| [12:52:35] | <anarcat> | /hosting/sites stays |
| [12:52:49] | <anarcat> | it's accessible with the tab up there and people can change site_frontpage to point there if they want |
| [12:52:57] | <anarcat> | i wouldn't bother |
| [12:53:10] | <anarcat> | or if you want, you could do that in the handler |
| [12:53:21] | <anarcat> | but i wouldn't bother |
| [12:53:28] | <ergonlogic> | k |
| [12:53:57] | <ergonlogic> | well, since the code work already as is, I might publish it in contrib |
| [12:54:20] | <ergonlogic> | since it'll still be easier than all the content-type/node stuff |
| [12:54:32] | <anarcat> | feel free |
| [12:54:46] | <anarcat> | however i believe that the basic built-in drupal types (e.g. page) are sufficient to replace the frontpage |
| [12:54:48] | <ergonlogic> | but, then, I already have enough half-abandoned contrib modules... |
| [12:54:53] | <anarcat> | if needed |
| [12:55:08] | <ergonlogic> | we don't build those in hostmaster, though |
| [12:55:19] | <ergonlogic> | we'd have to go and create a page content-type |
| [12:55:37] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [12:55:46] | <anarcat> | well still, that's rather trivial |
| [12:55:55] | <ergonlogic> | sure |
| [12:56:11] | <ergonlogic> | except you have a content-type for a single page |
| [12:56:13] | <anarcat> | i am worried about bikeshed potential here, if we open the door to customization, people will start asking for the moon |
| [12:56:20] | <ergonlogic> | yeah |
| [12:56:24] | <ergonlogic> | I see your point |
| [12:56:43] | <anarcat> | in my mind, this page should be just like drupal's "welcome to drupal" default screen |
| [12:56:43] | <ergonlogic> | I'm just trying not to see my work go to waste :p |
| [12:56:49] | <anarcat> | which is in no way customizable |
| [12:56:57] | <anarcat> | yeah, i understand, and i'm sorry about that :/ |
| [12:57:02] | <ergonlogic> | no worries |
| [12:57:11] | <ergonlogic> | I should have waited for more feedback |
| [12:57:17] | <ergonlogic> | before rushing ahead |
| [12:57:51] | <anarcat> | nah you did well |
| [12:57:54] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, I'll clean it up, and submit a new patch |
| [12:57:59] | <anarcat> | and i am ready to bet you learned |
| [12:58:08] | <ergonlogic> | indeed :p |
| [12:58:36] | <ergonlogic> | believe it or not, in Munich, I was the one arguing to minimalize Aegir |
| [12:58:44] | <ergonlogic> | for 3.x |
| [12:59:02] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [12:59:03] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, there was one other issue, I think |
| [12:59:06] | <ergonlogic> | let me check |
| [12:59:21] | <ergonlogic> | oh, for the tests |
| [12:59:31] | <ergonlogic> | so, I'll pull the D5 tests |
| [12:59:41] | <ergonlogic> | and read up further on testing in Drush |
| [12:59:48] | <ergonlogic> | I'd missed that README |
| [13:00:21] | <ergonlogic> | I think I skipped right to grepping through the code, rather than think to look for docs :/ |
| [13:00:32] | <anarcat> | eh]\ |
| [13:00:39] | <anarcat> | wow, triple-key fumble |
| [13:01:05] | <ergonlogic> | if you have the time this week, I'd like to take another look at the 'moving sites out of platforms' thing |
| [13:01:07] | <anarcat> | i threw back other issues at you |
| [13:01:08] | <anarcat> | https://drupal.org/node/1798274 |
| [13:01:13] | <anarcat> | https://drupal.org/node/1830994 |
| [13:01:43] | <anarcat> | sure |
| [13:01:49] | <anarcat> | it'd be great to commit that in |
| [13:02:12] | <ergonlogic> | it needs work |
| [13:02:37] | <ergonlogic> | but I can't wrap my ahead around what should happen when we varify a site, after changing the data_dir parameter |
| [13:03:59] | <anarcat> | i think we have a design problem there |
| [13:04:09] | <anarcat> | we need a way to know the previous client name so that we can migrate the files |
| [13:04:16] | <ergonlogic> | I'll follow up in those other issues too |
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| [13:05:41] | <ergonlogic> | we've already overwritten the context at that point? |
| [13:05:50] | <anarcat> | yes, that's the problem |
| [13:05:57] | <anarcat> | provision-save is the first thing that happens on any task |
| [13:06:03] | <anarcat> | i have the same problem with the client rename bug |
| [13:06:36] | <ergonlogic> | could we pass in an --old-client parameter from the front-end |
| [13:06:38] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [13:06:44] | <ergonlogic> | or something |
| [13:07:03] | <ergonlogic> | the front-end is kinda aware of who the original client was at that point |
| [13:07:55] | <anarcat> | hum |
| [13:07:56] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [13:07:59] | <ergonlogic> | drush 5 has a cache we could make use of too, maybe |
| [13:08:03] | <anarcat> | i am trying to find that damn issue |
| [13:08:39] | <ergonlogic> | https://drupal.org/node/1424174? |
| [13:08:57] | <ergonlogic> | or https://drupal.org/node/1530610? |
| [13:09:20] | <anarcat> | well damn, i can't find it |
| [13:09:39] | <anarcat> | no, not that |
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| [13:09:46] | <anarcat> | it's actually been reported as a security issue |
| [13:09:49] | <anarcat> | so it's not public |
| [13:09:54] | <anarcat> | but it's not a security issue either, imho |
| [13:10:02] | <ergonlogic> | oh right |
| [13:10:08] | <ergonlogic> | you'd mentioned that |
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| [13:11:07] | <anarcat> | ah, the issue is still under embargo, which is why it's not committed yet |
| [13:11:09] | <anarcat> | blammo |
| [13:11:18] | <ergonlogic> | anyway, for drush-vagrant, I'm thinking of using the cache to persist settings across a number of commands, but allow it to be over-ridden if need be... |
| [13:11:38] | <ergonlogic> | maybe we could do something similar |
| [13:12:15] | <ergonlogic> | but I'm not looking at the code, so I don't know that it makes sense |
| [13:12:41] | <ergonlogic> | and I'm not up to doing so tonight, so let's try this week |
| [13:12:43] | <anarcat> | i really don't know |
| [13:12:49] | <anarcat> | yeah, i should be heading out |
| [13:12:55] | <ergonlogic> | k |
| [13:13:06] | <ergonlogic> | good to chat |
| [13:13:15] | <anarcat> | yeah! |
| [13:13:17] | <ergonlogic> | I feel like we're always missing each other lately :) |
| [13:13:22] | <CrawfordComeaux> | before you guys go, real quick question... |
| [13:13:24] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [13:13:27] | <anarcat> | take care over there :) |
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| [13:13:38] | <ergonlogic> | CrawfordComeaux: what's up |
| [13:13:40] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [13:13:52] | <CrawfordComeaux> | any thoughts on where I should start looking to hunt down the reason db settings for a site aren't being added to drushrc when going through the complete platform import process? |
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| [13:15:12] | <ergonlogic> | not off hand... |
| [13:15:44] | <ergonlogic> | i know one of my colleagues was having trouble using the platform import technique last week |
| [13:15:57] | <ergonlogic> | and ended up having to import each site individually |
| [13:16:02] | <CrawfordComeaux> | or even how to start looking? |
| [13:16:04] | <anarcat> | crap |
| [13:16:55] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ? |
| [13:17:11] | <anarcat> | nothing, i am just disappointed that platform import fails |
| [13:17:38] | <CrawfordComeaux> | yeah...I'm migrating a dev shop's existing client sites into aegir for them & figure the best way to go about it is platform import (unless you guys think site-based would work) |
| [13:18:59] | <CrawfordComeaux> | anarcat: the only issue I found was that the db settings weren't in the drushrc...threw them in & the site verifies just fine (platform/site import functions both succeeded, though there were a couple of warnings in the site import...not yet sure if they could've impacted anything) |
| [13:19:24] | <anarcat> | isn't the verify supposed to do that? write drushrc? |
| [13:22:23] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I'm not sure. |
| [13:22:47] | <CrawfordComeaux> | and to be sure, db settings/creds should always be in the drushrc? |
| [13:22:56] | <anarcat> | yes, and verify should write them |
| [13:24:31] | <ergonlogic> | we should add platform import to the tests |
| [13:24:40] | <anarcat> | indeed |
| [13:24:49] | <anarcat> | alright, gone, ttfn |
| [13:25:22] | <ergonlogic> | CrawfordComeaux: perhaps file an issue |
| [13:25:37] | <CrawfordComeaux> | ok...I'll do that & take a look at the verify code. |
| [13:26:46] | <CrawfordComeaux> | May take a crack at the platform import test after I browse through existing tests to get a feel for how they're modeled. |
| [13:27:19] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I'm working on the basis for a Business Catalyst |
| [13:27:35] | <ergonlogic> | CrawfordComeaux: are you familiar w/ api.aegirproject.org? |
| [13:27:40] | <CrawfordComeaux> | clone (oversimplification, but that's the gist of it) |
| [13:27:42] | <ergonlogic> | it can sometimes be of help |
| [13:28:01] | <CrawfordComeaux> | That's what my weekend's going to be, actually ;) |
| [13:28:03] | <ergonlogic> | I don't follow |
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| [13:28:44] | <ergonlogic> | oh, Adobe? |
| [13:29:01] | <CrawfordComeaux> | Adobe Biz Catalyst: basically like aegir, except propietary & new sites comes preconfiged w/user, event, & customer mgmt, along with billing |
| [13:29:03] | <CrawfordComeaux> | yep |
| [13:30:08] | <ergonlogic> | along the lines of PageBuild? http://drupal.org/node/1686920 |
| [13:30:09] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1686920 => Pagebuild => 6 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [13:30:11] | <CrawfordComeaux> | except open sourced, of course |
| [13:30:20] | <ergonlogic> | of course :) |
| [13:33:40] | <CrawfordComeaux> | hmmm...good question. I'll have to explore PageBuild & see what's up with it. At first glance it seems like we may be reinventing the wheel here. |
| [13:34:30] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I'll have to check with my buddy & see what he knows about it. (note to self: always ask for the research up front) |
| [13:34:39] | <ergonlogic> | CrawfordComeaux: well, they haven't released a bunch of stuff |
| [13:35:25] | <ergonlogic> | there's also uc_hosting, from a e-commerce integration stand-point |
| [13:35:32] | <ergonlogic> | hefring: log pointer |
| [13:35:32] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-11-17#T310087 |
| [13:35:55] | <CrawfordComeaux> | yeah, but I'm also helping him flesh out his vision for the whole thing & need to make sure PB's taken into consideration |
| [13:36:50] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I've been researching modules for a week or so & uc_hosting's on the list. Seems like UC's going to be the way to go til Aegir makes the D7 jump |
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| [13:41:35] | <CrawfordComeaux> | guess I should get Aegir-Up downloading |
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| [17:15:20] | <sto7> | hello |
| [17:15:20] | <hefring> | privet |
| [17:20:02] | <sto7> | I have a question for you Aegir users, is there a limit on the number of sites one platform can handle? |
| [17:22:08] | <sto7> | I mean, would performances be altered if Aegir reached like, 10000 sites in the same platform (which means thant this platform's "sites/" folder would contain 10000 folders)? |
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| [18:34:02] | <CrawfordComeaux> | sto7: dunno (I'm a newbie to Aegir), but sounds like something you could easily test out by scripting the creation of the sites |
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| [22:50:46] | <ergonlogic> | sto7: there's no limit imposed by Aegir on the number of sites a platform can host, but you'd possibly run into some practical challenges |
| [22:51:22] | <ergonlogic> | sto7: generally, it's better to have more sites sharing fewer platforms, as it results is less code having to be cached |
| [22:51:44] | <ergonlogic> | i.e., one copy of core, views, etc. |
| [23:36:22] | <Zelfje> | same question, same right answer as in #drupal 50 minutes ago |
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| [05:59:40] | <murton> | what is a good successor to this thing since rackspace seems (?) to have broken it: https://github.com/mig5/aegir_ci |
| [06:00:23] | <murton> | anything out there pre-configured to let me deploy a server with aegir using the rackspacd api key? |
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| [09:33:04] | <hefring> | community => Can I upgrade to latest Drush? Or will that break Aegir? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/can-i-upgrade-latest-drush-or-... |
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