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| [11:18:54] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: hi again |
| [11:19:07] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: I assume you're referring to a site with pretty static content |
| [11:19:09] | <maestrojed> | hehe |
| [11:19:28] | <maestrojed> | ergonlogic yeah, the dev site is current in that regard |
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| [11:19:40] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: generally, you'd want to push your config into code (using Features, &c.) |
| [11:20:02] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: but you can move the live site out of the way by renaming it |
| [11:20:15] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: which is a 'migrate' task to the same platform |
| [11:20:25] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: then rename the dev site |
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| [11:20:48] | <maestrojed> | ok, very good. I will have to be more sophisticated when a site is active. (this site has yet to launch so I have options :) ) |
| [11:20:50] | <maestrojed> | thanks again |
| [11:20:57] | <maestrojed> | ergonlogic ^ |
| [11:21:04] | <ergonlogic> | maestrojed: no problem:) |
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| [20:00:26] | <hefring> | community => Aegir For Non-Drupal Platform => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-non-drupal-platform |
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| [01:54:36] | <lolmaus> | After a migration, i've got "PDOException: SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'danceeventsru'@'localhost' (using password: YES) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /var/aegir/platforms/drupal-7.17/includes/lock.inc)." |
| [01:54:43] | <lolmaus> | Broke my site :( |
| [01:55:32] | <lolmaus> | Seems that it's trying to use MySQL with an obsolette username |
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| [02:36:43] | <lolmaus> | Oh, that's because my Apache wasn't restarting |
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| [04:00:29] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell anarcat: Well, if you don't like my speed here, go ahead and remove my work from the project and me from core maintainers, I can live with it. |
| [04:00:29] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when anarcat is around. |
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| [04:00:45] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: ... wha? |
| [04:00:45] | <hefring> | anarcat: 16 sec ago <omega8cc> tell anarcat: Well, if you don't like my speed here, go ahead and remove my work from the project and me from core maintainers, I can live with it. |
| [04:01:07] | <omega8cc> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2012-11-20#T311815 |
| [04:01:09] | <anarcat> | i don't see why we should remove your work from the project or you from core here |
| [04:01:25] | <omega8cc> | that is how I read this |
| [04:01:33] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [04:01:39] | <anarcat> | i say "commit my shit" |
| [04:01:43] | <anarcat> | i didn't say "remove your work" |
| [04:01:55] | <anarcat> | you aren't providing any feedback to my questions and patches |
| [04:02:00] | <anarcat> | what do you expect me to do |
| [04:02:13] | <omega8cc> | I did, many times, also explaining why I don't like them |
| [04:02:29] | <anarcat> | you provided no feedback on 4 other nginx related issues |
| [04:02:44] | <anarcat> | and you have not explained clearly what the problems were with the patch i was suggested |
| [04:02:49] | <anarcat> | i thought we could have a conversation about this |
| [04:02:57] | <anarcat> | i even proposed to make a backwards compatible module |
| [04:03:33] | <omega8cc> | I think mig5 idea is the best for both worlds, but i didn't have a time to work on this yet, but I don't see how you can talk about your patience in this context |
| [04:04:04] | <omega8cc> | your patches are a mess, sorry |
| [04:04:24] | <omega8cc> | and I expressed this many times already |
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| [04:04:37] | <omega8cc> | and now I'm loosing my patience |
| [04:04:38] | <anarcat> | yeah well, just saying "it's a mess" isn't exactly constructive |
| [04:04:47] | <anarcat> | you haven't explained clearly what the problems were |
| [04:04:52] | <omega8cc> | your patches either |
| [04:04:58] | <anarcat> | you have not provided responses to http://drupal.org/node/1622846 |
| [04:04:59] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1622846 => Nginx config include files should be merged into one => Provision, HTTP Service, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [04:05:01] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1635552 |
| [04:05:02] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1635552 => remove unused config file => Provision, Code, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [04:05:04] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1635586 |
| [04:05:04] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1635586 => remove duplicate nginx fastcgi params => Provision, Code, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [04:05:15] | <omega8cc> | you dont' care about others acting like this |
| [04:05:22] | <omega8cc> | don't flood please |
| [04:05:22] | <anarcat> | are those patches all mess? |
| [04:05:37] | <omega8cc> | most are |
| [04:05:45] | <anarcat> | okay, how are they a mess? |
| [04:06:12] | <anarcat> | what do they do wrong? could you substantiate your arguments other than saying that spewing out personnal attacks? (like that i don't know what i'm doing?) |
| [04:07:09] | <omega8cc> | the problem is that you don't see what is obvious, and I don't plan to explain that, I prefer to concentrate my energy on the work, and this is what I plan, and I have wrote this in the comment, I don't see how my approach is not ideal for your needs |
| [04:07:39] | <anarcat> | i am sorry i don't see what you believe is obvious |
| [04:07:42] | <anarcat> | it's obviously not obvious to me |
| [04:08:06] | <omega8cc> | then sorry, I don't have a time to waste |
| [04:08:16] | <anarcat> | that's a great way to collaborate in an open source project |
| [04:08:27] | <anarcat> | you talk to a peer here, to a collaborator that is trying to improve the project with you |
| [04:08:37] | <anarcat> | and you can't even spend time to explain your own code? |
| [04:08:55] | <anarcat> | that's rather outrageous |
| [04:09:06] | <grobot> | anarcat, is there no way you can ask another maintainer or committer to resolve this, if you can't work it out with omega8cc ? |
| [04:09:41] | <anarcat> | it's also demeaning. the message i get from this conversation is: you are too stupid to understand my ideas, so i will not even waste my precious to talk to you. |
| [04:09:44] | <omega8cc> | you ate trashing my work and compatibility for others using Nginx with your patches and then you complain I don't follow your approach, that is just too ridiculous |
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| [04:10:06] | <omega8cc> | no, you read this wrong |
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| [04:10:23] | <anarcat> | grobot: i did, actually |
| [04:10:24] | <omega8cc> | don't read what I didn't wrote please |
| [04:10:33] | <anarcat> | grobot: maybe i should just give up on nginx |
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| [04:10:40] | <anarcat> | and let omega8cc deal with this |
| [04:10:49] | <anarcat> | i was expecting to release 2.x with cleaner configuration files |
| [04:11:05] | <anarcat> | we are trying to make aegir as simple as possible out of the box |
| [04:11:13] | <mvc> | anarcat: omega8cc: geez, you two! i think everyone here needs to step back and take a deep breath |
| [04:11:19] | <anarcat> | i have found issues with the current configuration, and i have outlined them in the issue |
| [04:11:36] | <anarcat> | now my feedback is being not only frowned upon, but also completely disregarded |
| [04:11:43] | <anarcat> | the message i get is to not touch the nginx code |
| [04:11:45] | <omega8cc> | no |
| [04:11:47] | <anarcat> | which i find unfortunate |
| [04:11:53] | <anarcat> | but this is what i will do from here on |
| [04:12:06] | <omega8cc> | could you please read my comment on the issue? |
| [04:12:19] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: you assume i haven't read it |
| [04:12:26] | <anarcat> | you mean #11? |
| [04:13:05] | <omega8cc> | yes, I just wrote again what I'm talking in the last few months |
| [04:13:09] | <grobot> | you guys mean http://drupal.org/node/1635596 ? |
| [04:13:10] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1635596 => nginx: do not decide the policy for users => Provision, Code, normal, needs work, 11 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [04:14:54] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: "but i will soon loose patience" is something which makes me want to quit |
| [04:15:19] | <omega8cc> | I feel like I causing issues for you |
| [04:15:27] | <omega8cc> | and I don't want to |
| [04:15:29] | <omega8cc> | simple |
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| [04:16:55] | <omega8cc> | you are coming here after a few months of absence and you are talking about your patience because I didn't work on this in the meantime, that great to hear, really |
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| [04:21:34] | <anarcat> | talk about reading what is written |
| [04:21:47] | <anarcat> | frankly, i feel like quitting too |
| [04:22:03] | <anarcat> | i'll just step away from this channel for a while here |
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| [04:24:33] | <theMusician> | anarcat: We appreciate the time, effort, code, and caring you and all of the maintainers contribute to this project. Thank you. |
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| [07:09:03] | <CrawfordComeaux> | wonder what it'd take a change the aegir task queue to a push-based system rather than pull |
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| [07:11:09] | <maestrojed> | running on node.js right :) |
| [07:12:45] | <CrawfordComeaux> | *shrug* possibly? |
| [07:13:12] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I don't mean for the front end, but just for task execution |
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| [07:21:24] | <bgm> | CrawfordComeaux: you can run "drush @hostmaster hosting-tasks" to kick the cron |
| [07:21:45] | <bgm> | you can also check on how to installer the queue-runner, which runs tasks automatically as they get queued (and one task at the time) |
| [07:22:47] | <CrawfordComeaux> | bgm: aha! that's precisely what I was looking for. Thanks :) |
| [07:23:18] | <bgm> | --debug is also very useful for running cron tasks from the CLI |
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| [07:33:11] | <CrawfordComeaux> | I'm working on an aegir-based clone of business catalyst, so trying to get as many CLI tasks moved to the front-end as possible |
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| [08:17:15] | <lsolesen1> | looking into using aegir-up for creating a vagrant VM with barracuda (to reflect my production server). Anyone has some good documentation? |
| [08:17:15] | <hefring> | lsolesen1: 2 weeks 6 hours ago <omega8cc> tell lsolesen1: http://drupal.org/node/1255344#comment-6197696 |
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| [08:39:37] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: barracuda is a shell script, iirc |
| [08:39:53] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: so it wouldn't fit well in aegir-up |
| [08:40:11] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: Actually I am just watching our video about drush up and aegir up etc. |
| [08:40:19] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: Maybe I do not need aegir up then. |
| [08:40:29] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: maybe check what we do in drupal-up, as that essentially runs a shell script |
| [08:40:43] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: which you could swap out for the barracuda script |
| [08:40:51] | <lsolesen1> | drupal-up is in aegir-up? |
| [08:41:20] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: But brilliant presentation in Munich :) |
| [08:41:33] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: that was in montreal |
| [08:41:37] | <ergonlogic> | but thanks |
| [08:41:52] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: Ah, yeah. |
| [08:42:08] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: Was looking for it through another conference, but ended up in Montreal :) |
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| [08:49:10] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: Will start with aegir-up and get the hang of using vagrant first. Is there any good guides / docs to easily do the remote server thing, you show at the conference? |
| [08:51:14] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic++ |
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| [08:54:50] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: do you use Barracuda? |
| [08:55:28] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: wondering if you have http://drupal.org/project/hosting_remote_import working? |
| [08:55:42] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: it's just the remote_import and hosting_remote_import projects |
| [08:56:17] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: no, I haven't touched it for a couple years |
| [08:56:26] | <ergonlogic> | since I figured out how to install Aegir myself |
| [08:56:41] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: :) |
| [08:57:13] | <realityloop> | what about remote import? do you have it working on any 2.x installs of aegir? |
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| [08:57:52] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: I have it running in 1.x, I don't think I've tried on 2.x |
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| [08:59:20] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: remote_import req'd a patch though |
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| [08:59:45] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: since there was a problem with Aegir inheriting the remote context, and not being able to find the local backup dir |
| [08:59:57] | <ergonlogic> | realityloop: I documented in an issue to that project |
| [09:00:00] | <realityloop> | ergonlogic: yeah I have those issues open in my browser |
| [09:00:18] | <ergonlogic> | I don't recall whether I actually made a patch thugh |
| [09:00:28] | <ergonlogic> | since it's more of a work-around than a fix |
| [09:00:29] | <realityloop> | no, I don't think so |
| [09:00:55] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: btw, drupal-up is another drush-vagrant blueprint |
| [09:01:08] | <ergonlogic> | lsolesen1: similar to aegir-up, but much simpler |
| [09:01:08] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: yeah, I found that. Thanks. |
| [09:01:25] | <ergonlogic> | and the puppet manifest essentially just runs a shell script |
| [09:02:12] | <ergonlogic> | fwiw, adding shell provisioning is part of the drush-vagrant 3.x roadmap |
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| [09:09:13] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: Cool. |
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| [09:16:54] | <lsolesen1> | ergonlogic: hm, drush vagrant-build --blueprint=aegir keeps complaining that *** You have installed Drush Vagrant Integration, but Vagrant does not appear to be installed. ***, but I can run vagrant up, so it must be installed (and I have added vagrant to my path). |
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| [09:51:07] | <CrawfordComeaux> | Should I be developing modules targeting 1.x or 2.x?? |
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| [10:00:33] | <CrawfordComeaux> | Does anyone have some way to install modules/themes to sites from the UI? |
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