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| [20:40:49] | <simmelj> | I had to downgrade PHP to version 5.2 yesterday due to some legacy code in the sites that I host. Somehow that screwed up drush. I've now reinstall drush but can't get the provision commands to work. They all return "Backup directory does not exist". And that is because d()->platform returns NULL. Could really use some help from someone with more insight in how things work! |
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| [20:45:02] | <simmelj> | Trying to backtrack things. Where is d() defined? Can't find it in either provision or hostmaster source |
| [20:48:08] | <simmelj> | Found it |
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| [20:48:42] | <siliconmeadow> | simmelj: where? |
| [20:49:02] | <simmelj> | provision.context.inc, it's defined as funciton & d(..) |
| [20:49:09] | <simmelj> | the & threw my search off :P |
| [21:00:15] | <simmelj> | So one of the problems seems to be that provision_sitealias_get_record doesn't return a context_type.. |
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| [21:05:34] | <lsolesen> | I am using BOA. I love how easy it is to build new platforms just using a build.make and the migrate the sites. However, However, I would prefer to use the built in platforms, but need to add modules specific to the sites to those built in platforms. It seems that it is not as easy to manage that workflow, right? |
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| [21:19:52] | <simmelj> | Seems like my drush version was to new.. hehe |
| [21:20:02] | <simmelj> | running the command with -d helped figure it out |
| [21:20:19] | <simmelj> | now I have a problem that aegir doesn't process my queue instead. just pushes tasks up |
| [21:20:33] | <mig5_> | yeah you want 4.6 at most, for drush. |
| [21:21:45] | <mig5_> | to debug the queue: a) check crontab -l to make sure you have 'drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch' or similar in it, and b) run 'drush @hostmaster hosting-tasks --debug' to see if there are errors that are aborting the processing of the queue |
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| [21:24:58] | <mig5> | crontab -l as the aegir user, of course, or crontab -l -u aegir if you are root. |
| [21:26:28] | <simmelj> | Have this in my crontab: * * * * * aegir drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch |
| [21:26:54] | <simmelj> | and running hosting-tasks from the command line doesn't report errors |
| [21:27:52] | <simmelj> | If I check "view" on a task it says "will be processed around $time". Check again after $time, $time is now +1 minute |
| [21:28:07] | <mig5> | how about 'drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch --debug' |
| [21:28:30] | <mig5> | even a dodgy function on a site with a hook_cron() can break that |
| [21:29:21] | <simmelj> | Running the task from command line fails in UI but not in CLI! Checking view now shows "Unsupported operand types in /mnt/persist/drush/includes/environment.inc, line 925" |
| [21:29:34] | <simmelj> | Guess my PHP version fiddeling did something stupid |
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| [21:32:42] | <mig5> | w |
| [21:32:44] | <mig5> | oops |
| [21:32:56] | <simmelj> | Tried verifying another site and that worked great. Guess I'll manually delete the one giving me trouble and reimport it |
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| [21:34:07] | <simmelj> | thanks mig5 |
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| [22:18:16] | <Cluster> | hey all, i'm trying to figure out why the main domain for my server where aegir is running on is unreachable. ssl is enabled, but not required. any ideas? (didnt do anything that special to this box, debian clean install + aegir) |
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| [01:04:28] | <Morbus> | hrm. |
| [01:04:40] | <Morbus> | i’ve configured a new site that has a different IP then all the other sites. |
| [01:04:43] | <Morbus> | it also has SSL. |
| [01:04:51] | <Morbus> | It verifies properly in Aegir. |
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| [01:05:10] | <Morbus> | the generated config file uses <VirtualHost *:80> and <VirtualHost ACTUAL_IP:443> |
| [01:05:34] | <Morbus> | when i view http://example.com, i see the site. when I view https://example.com/, I see a different site - one of the other sites in this Aegir installation. |
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| [01:27:37] | <siliconmeadow> | ah, MrScumbag! Great name |
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| [01:29:01] | <MrScumbag> | siliconmeadow: Heh, thx :D |
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| [03:35:58] | <Morbus> | anarcat: you around? i have a —debug of a failed provisionoinstall |
| [03:37:52] | <Morbus> | is there a log file entry for webserver restarting or anything? |
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| [03:39:49] | <Morbus> | is the web server restarted before or after provision-install-backend? |
| [03:43:55] | <Morbus> | hrm. |
| [03:44:02] | <Morbus> | looks like the web server is only restarted when a site has been Enabled. |
| [03:44:13] | <Morbus> | so I get warnings/errors on the install process, which causes that to fail, task-wise. |
| [03:44:28] | <Morbus> | but it’s actually worked, so i just run Enable manually, which Greens and restarts. |
| [03:44:35] | * Morbus tries a Verify. |
| [03:45:33] | <Morbus> | which also greens. |
| [03:45:34] | <Morbus> | hrms. |
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| [03:47:43] | <mvc> | Morbus: i think anarcat is eating breakfast -- you could throw your log into a pastebin to share with the channel |
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| [03:48:56] | <Morbus> | http://privatepaste.com/0e3dede782 |
| [03:49:17] | <Morbus> | after all this, even though it fails inside Aegir, if i enable/verify, it’s all Green and working. |
| [03:52:45] | <mvc> | like actually working, or aegir thinks it's working? |
| [03:53:30] | <Morbus> | actually working. |
| [03:54:16] | <Morbus> | if i just do the Aegir install step, which fails, and then manually restart Apache, the site is working. |
| [03:54:23] | <Morbus> | i don’t even need to do Aegir’s Enable/Verify. |
| [03:54:43] | <Morbus> | but Enable is what restarts the web server, making it “work” from an Aegir standpoint. |
| [03:54:52] | <Morbus> | (and to my clients, who use only Aegir and not the command line) |
| [03:55:39] | <mvc> | hmm. i haven't seen that one myself, but perhaps anarcat has. |
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| [04:14:03] | <Cluster> | Morbus, did you fix that IP address issue? I have a similar thing going on with the main domain name my server is running on. cant access that tld, kinda the same problem you had where it loads another page, for me it doesnt load a thing. (just get a 404 page generated by apache) |
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| [04:14:29] | <Morbus> | Cluster: well, i knew more than I did yesterday. |
| [04:14:31] | <Morbus> | ;) |
| [04:14:39] | <Cluster> | good to hear :) |
| [04:15:09] | <Morbus> | so, first thing i would do is ensure that when you ping yourname.com, it refers to the IP of the server that hostmaster is on. |
| [04:15:19] | <Cluster> | Same here, but that's more media-module-related :) Still trying to figure out why my apache is redirecting to air. (404 page) instead of the main tl domain. |
| [04:15:26] | <Cluster> | o that all works |
| [04:15:31] | <Cluster> | all subdomains are working fine |
| [04:15:37] | <Cluster> | other domains do not have this problem |
| [04:15:46] | <Cluster> | it's the first domain i added to the server |
| [04:15:47] | <Morbus> | are all your domains on the same IP? |
| [04:15:52] | <Cluster> | yup |
| [04:16:18] | <Morbus> | so you’ve got like a.example.com, b.example.com, and different.com? |
| [04:16:19] | <Cluster> | but i only added ssl to the first one, because of the admin panel for the server |
| [04:16:23] | <Morbus> | and a/b are working, but different isn't? |
| [04:16:23] | <Cluster> | yes |
| [04:16:44] | <Cluster> | where srv.diff..com is my server's name, yes |
| [04:17:21] | <Morbus> | so you can access a.example.com and b.example, but not srv.diff.com? |
| [04:17:41] | <Cluster> | so more exact: a.example.com b.example.com aegir.example.com all fine. (www.)example.com NOt fine. some-other-crazy-domain.com also working just fine |
| [04:18:01] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: I am using BOA. I love how easy it is to build new platforms just using a build.make and then using the GUI to clone and migrate the sites. However, I would prefer to use the built in platforms for some of my sites, but need to add modules specific to the sites to those built in platforms (some might be shared). It seems that it is not as easy to manage that workflow and I am having a hard time finding docs on how to |
| [04:18:03] | <Morbus> | gotcha. |
| [04:18:11] | <Cluster> | and only have ssl enabled on my aegir |
| [04:18:12] | <Morbus> | when you defined example.com, did you specify “example.com” or “www.example.com"? |
| [04:18:25] | <Cluster> | example.com i guess |
| [04:18:26] | <Morbus> | does “example.com” or “www.example.com” give you different results when you access them? |
| [04:18:28] | <Cluster> | but i do want that |
| [04:18:36] | <Cluster> | example.com has an alias. www.example.com |
| [04:18:45] | <Cluster> | and that Works for all other domains :/ |
| [04:18:58] | <Cluster> | (just like it would on my non-aegir-setups) |
| [04:19:02] | * Morbus nods. |
| [04:19:12] | <Morbus> | so, when you access example.com, you get a 404? |
| [04:19:15] | <Cluster> | ill test |
| [04:19:56] | <Cluster> | example.com redirects to www.example.com (it's the other way arround) and the result always is The requested URL / was not found on this server. |
| [04:19:59] | <Cluster> | when i change the config |
| [04:20:16] | <Cluster> | where SSL host is IP:PORT and www is *:PORT |
| [04:20:27] | <Cluster> | to www is IP:PORT it obviously wont work |
| [04:20:30] | <Morbus> | are you accessing these under http: or https:? |
| [04:20:34] | <Cluster> | http |
| [04:20:42] | <Cluster> | it's enabled, but not forced to |
| [04:20:47] | <Cluster> | (the ssl) |
| [04:20:56] | <Morbus> | yeah, that’s the same thing i see in my ghosts, btw. |
| [04:20:59] | <Cluster> | i redirect people on my main admin panel with a simple rewrite |
| [04:21:04] | <Morbus> | https IP:PORT and http *:PORT |
| [04:21:09] | <Cluster> | Exactly |
| [04:21:14] | <Cluster> | that's why i asked :) |
| [04:21:15] | <Morbus> | is the IP specified in https the same as the server’s IP? |
| [04:21:22] | <Cluster> | Yes it is |
| [04:21:25] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: if you really need some modules per site, just use sites/foo/modules - after introducing automated registry rebuild it shouldn't be that problematic, but still remember that it is a recipe #5, otherwise you would need a profile per site, which is much more work/maintenance |
| [04:21:25] | <hefring> | omega8cc: 4 days 7 hours ago <lsolesen> tell omega8cc Was looking through: http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/REMOTE.txt. However, for the key verification process to work as described it seems that the target-server needs to be public - for the ssh-keyscan process? I set it up on a local VM and hoped I could keep it that way? |
| [04:21:28] | <Morbus> | ghosts, not ghosts. stupid autocorrect. heh. |
| [04:21:47] | <omega8cc> | this is old |
| [04:21:59] | <Morbus> | zomg, vhosts! |
| [04:22:22] | <Cluster> | it's prolly a rewrite or something going bad somewhere |
| [04:22:30] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: I resolved that second issue. |
| [04:22:45] | <Cluster> | but im working mao on media provider modules at the moment :/ so no real time to really dig into this Morbus |
| [04:22:47] | <omega8cc> | yep, noticed that |
| [04:22:55] | <Morbus> | Cluster: ok, so the only reason www.example.com would redir to no-www (or vice versa) is if there’s a redirect at the Apache level (which is not normal) or you’ve enabled the redirect in Drupal’s .htaccess file. |
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| [04:23:52] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: If I have a site, and I want to take it somewhere else, then it is nice to have a make file just for that site in VC. That is why I got all my sites as individual install profiles at the moment. |
| [04:23:54] | <Morbus> | Cluster: but next steps would be to check the document root for example.com and ensure there’s something actually in there, confirm that document root is the same for the SSL version of it, then check the error_log in Apache when you access example.com and see what happens. |
| [04:24:08] | <Cluster> | didnt redirect anything on that site Morbus, that redirect is a small php script on the srv.example.com that just checks for an ssl connection and redirects to it if not accessing via ssl. |
| [04:24:23] | <Morbus> | Cluster: ultimately, my problem came down to “this site isn’t working cos it’s the second SSL certificate on the server, which requires an IP, and the IPs we have are all assigned to the Production Server at the moment, so this can’t be tested.” |
| [04:24:31] | <Morbus> | which doesn’t sound like yours. |
| [04:24:36] | <Cluster> | Morbus, did that, if i change *:PORT to IP:PORT voila everything works |
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| [04:24:46] | <Cluster> | but then... all my subdomains redirect to that domain :) |
| [04:24:52] | <Morbus> | heh. |
| [04:24:57] | <Cluster> | then i switched back to media module development ;) |
| [04:25:52] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: well, you can add those profiles also in the built-in platforms, so what is the problem? |
| [04:26:31] | <Cluster> | Morbus, that pm spam is a.example.com |
| [04:26:41] | <Cluster> | where example.com is the 404 |
| [04:27:27] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Its is not a problem :) It is a question. You suggest other places not to do that - something with a chicken and an egg :)? |
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| [04:28:06] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Let me rephrase. Your own sites, eg. omega8.cc. How is that version controlled? |
| [04:28:07] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: not sure what you mean, where I suggest this? |
| [04:29:07] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: http://groups.drupal.org/node/158669#comment-538319 |
| [04:29:08] | <hefring> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/158669 => How do I create modifications to an Octopus existing platforms and install profiles? => 11 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [04:29:35] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: But that refers to having your modules in the sites/all space. |
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| [04:31:24] | <omega8cc> | yes, it is still valid, but have you read http://omega8.cc/node/110 ? |
| [04:31:41] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Many times :) |
| [04:31:46] | <lsolesen> | I will reread it. |
| [04:32:13] | <omega8cc> | ok, I still don't understand your question/problem then :) |
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| [04:33:21] | <omega8cc> | you have a few options, each have its pros and cons, so you need to compare them with your own checklist of things which are important for you |
| [04:33:42] | <omega8cc> | to you |
| [04:33:44] | <omega8cc> | etc |
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| [04:37:23] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: yeah. Right now I am satisfied with creating separate platforms. It works for me, but is inefficient use of the cache. Therefore I wanted to learn more about the actual workflow when adding new modules to the built in platforms. I know how to use drush, but how do you keep it in version control, that your site based on kickstart-rc4 also needs the quickpay payment provider (so I can easily deploy development copies). |
| [04:37:44] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Hoping it makes sense. |
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| [04:39:02] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: I am not confused on how to use aegir, drush or barracuda with separate platforms pr. site. But a little confused on the actual workflow when using builtin platforms with different sites :) |
| [04:39:18] | <lsolesen> | Thanks for taking the time (again) to answer one of my questions. |
| [04:39:23] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc++ |
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| [04:42:01] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: you should keep the platforms and install profiles at absolute minimum, and separate only for dev/stage/prod or similar workflow, unless you have sites which are really unique and/or need access separation, so modules and/or themes are not visible for other sites on the same platform |
| [04:44:14] | <omega8cc> | you can separate sites specific code using separate install profiles, but then you need to remember that you will have a problem when you wish to migrate to different install profile with different name in different platform, it is also explained in the docs |
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| [04:45:09] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Yah. |
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| [04:46:07] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: so the universal rule is the same here: try to keep it simple, and not too creative ;) |
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| [04:46:28] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: It is still the actual workflow when developing the sites, when I want to add them in the builtin platforms, that I do not get. How do you have the things version controlled? |
| [04:47:03] | <lsolesen> | e.g. which modules belongs to which sites |
| [04:47:34] | <lsolesen> | and how do you pull them into the builtin platform. Do you just run the make-file from within the platform? |
| [04:47:39] | <lsolesen> | Or du you drush dl ... |
| [04:48:04] | <omega8cc> | modules never belong to site, they belong either to install profile or to platform, you are still thinking the old way, like the site is the app, it is not |
| [04:48:43] | <omega8cc> | no, the makefile is not for the site |
| [04:48:51] | <omega8cc> | the makefile is for the platform |
| [04:49:29] | <omega8cc> | it seems that you are confusing install profiles, makefiles and features |
| [04:49:50] | <omega8cc> | for site level stuff you are using features, not makefiles |
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| [04:58:27] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Yeah. I know that. But the functionality on a site is still made up of the mix of modules and features, you use. I develop a site based on a platform (Just a regular Drupal 7). I do some custom content types and views and export it to a several features. That feature I put into version control. Now I want to get it into the production site. There is also my platform (Drupal 7). The features are put into the sites/site |
| [05:00:02] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Feel free to just say "stupid" if you think you already answered :) |
| [05:03:33] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: if you need to "export" it as a *complete app*, you are effectively creating an install profile, which should be used in a platform with required code already present or built from scratch from the makefile, but normally you rarely need a platform per site, so you are deploying sites in a shared platform, sharing the code either on the install profile or platform level. or both, and you are using version control per module and per theme and per |
| [05:03:33] | <omega8cc> | install profile (with its makefile) and per feature (which is a meta-module) |
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| [05:06:16] | <omega8cc> | coffee break! |
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| [09:13:03] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Have you used BOA together with vagrant and chef? I wanted to build the server completely automatic, so I can reuse it on my other development computers also. But I cannot figure out how I can have it answering the questions during install? |
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| [09:20:47] | <lsolesen> | ergonlogic: having aegir setup on a vagrant VM. Where do you mount your external folders to? |
| [09:25:05] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: I don't use it locally, so not sure what questions do you mean |
| [09:28:20] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: I wanted to use vagrant to create a box setup with barracuda. So I should run the bash script with vagrant / chef. But there are some questions. Was just curious if you tried setting it up and getting vagrant / chef to answer the Y/N questoins in BOA. |
| [09:28:54] | <omega8cc> | you mean questions asked by boa installer? |
| [09:29:04] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: yes. |
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| [09:33:00] | <omega8cc> | use the automated mode with either mini or max option on command line and there will be no questions |
| [09:33:23] | <omega8cc> | it will set _AUTOPILOT=YES on the fly |
| [09:34:28] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: ^^ |
| [09:34:51] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Off course. |
| [09:35:12] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Just thought I had some questions even though I used mini yesterday. |
| [09:35:28] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: But I think it was because I used boa and not octopus locally. |
| [09:36:20] | <omega8cc> | hmm, right, it will not automate it in localhost mode |
| [09:36:41] | <omega8cc> | it does that only for public install |
| [09:37:24] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: feel free to open feature request, it should be easy to automate this also for local installs |
| [09:39:48] | <lsolesen> | cool. |
| [09:39:48] | <omega8cc> | wait |
| [09:40:05] | <omega8cc> | it already works, it is just not documented properly |
| [09:41:10] | <omega8cc> | oh, it is documented :D |
| [09:42:03] | <omega8cc> | see http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/INSTALL.txt#l86 and http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/docs/INSTALL.txt#l89 |
| [09:42:16] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: ^^ |
| [09:42:23] | <omega8cc> | so it should work |
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| [09:46:42] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: It is not documented as far as I can tell how to use the octopus installer to create more instances of octopus (locally). |
| [09:47:23] | <omega8cc> | this is separate issue, and unrelated here |
| [09:48:08] | <omega8cc> | but the moni/max mode which automates everything is documented - see the links above |
| [09:48:20] | <omega8cc> | err mini/max |
| [09:48:28] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Yeah, I know. It was just because I need to add three octopus instances automatically. |
| [09:49:13] | <omega8cc> | it is not possible currently, unless you will run otcopus installer directly and set _AUTOPILOT=YES there first |
| [09:49:27] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Ok. |
| [09:50:20] | <omega8cc> | in fact, the way it works now is rather too heavy, as it runs barracuda upgrade on every new octopus install |
| [09:50:45] | <omega8cc> | it is to make sure the barracuda part is up to date, but it should be optional |
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| [10:28:42] | <mig5> | anarcat: ping |
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| [10:55:45] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: ping |
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| [10:56:48] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: pong |
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| [10:57:57] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: hi, I have a barracuda setup on an Australian host that only has 2 CPU cores, we're seeing cpu max out a lot, is there a base reccomendation for resources other than memory when you have solr installed as well? |
| [10:58:21] | <realityloop> | the server has 2GB of ram |
