| [11:00:45] | <omega8cc> | it will run even with 512 MB RAM on any good host, is it Virtuozzo family maybe? |
| [11:02:27] | <omega8cc> | 2GB RAM for Solr enabled is more than enough, if you have high CPU, you should check what causes this, it is not normal to see high CPU usage |
| [11:06:30] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: plus, if there is high CPU, load, or I/O constantly, it suggests major issues with their RAID or SAN, or just overselling etc, it shouldn't happen if you don't have and CPU intensive tasks like video processing etc |
| [11:08:30] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: pages are loading almost instantly on local dev box, so I'm inclined to blame the host |
| [11:08:48] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
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| [11:16:09] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thanks |
| [11:16:17] | <omega8cc> | np |
| [11:16:52] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: it's vmware |
| [11:19:17] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: we support some BOA instances on vmware and while some of them run without issues, some tend to have horrible issues from time to time, because they use some dynamically allocated resources options and other crap which makes it unstable, so it may depend on the parent system configuration |
| [11:21:47] | <realityloop> | great, thanks for the info |
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| [14:09:26] | <anarcat> | mig5: pong |
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| [14:19:43] | <mig5> | anarcat: was wondering, since you use Pack module, what is your current solution for the shared filesystem. do you have something like DRBD+NFS going? specifically, interested in what redundancy/failover others are using |
| [14:20:44] | <joelwallis> | I'm searching for a while but I can't find some good information about how to make a right migration from custom LAMP environment to a fresh Aegir installation (Aegir 1.9). |
| [14:20:58] | <joelwallis> | ops.. not only aegir.. but BOA |
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| [14:48:33] | <anarcat> | mig5: nothing so far |
| [14:48:42] | <anarcat> | mig5: i experimented with glusterfs, but was dissatisfied |
| [14:48:47] | <anarcat> | with performance |
| [14:49:25] | <mig5> | same. |
| [14:49:43] | <mig5> | also weird in terms of how it 'shards' parts of the filesystem among its nodes, e.g it's not direct 1-to-1 replication |
| [14:49:54] | <mig5> | i'll probably do DRBD+OCFS2+NFS |
| [14:50:11] | <mig5> | client is using a proprietary NetApp filer right now, which I guess has redundancy. |
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| [15:20:30] | <anarcat> | yeah, we had an ocfs setup here for a while, wasn't documented and couldn't figure it out |
| [15:20:45] | <anarcat> | but why ocfs if you have drbd? |
| [15:31:17] | <joelwallis> | where can I find information about the Barracuda installation? I need to understand how it's structured to get my sites running on it (and benefiting from HA). |
| [15:33:29] | <mig5> | anarcat: because ocfs2 can allow for the volume to be mounted on both hosts, as opposed to only one (where you have to mount the other drbd on failover and then restart nfs etc). in theory, if they can both be up and running, the failover might be that little bit faster. just a theory though, never tried ocfs2 :) |
| [15:34:12] | <joelwallis> | I mean: how should I import a platform build (a drupal site which will become in a platform) in a BOA stack? Where can I found information about this? |
| [15:34:16] | <mig5> | joelwallis: don't know barracuda, but http://drupal.org/project/barracuda is probably the best place. |
| [15:34:30] | <mig5> | and http://omega8.cc/library/tips-and-tricks |
| [15:34:36] | <mig5> | sounds like you are asking about http://omega8.cc/how-to-add-custom-platform-properly-140 |
| [15:34:36] | <joelwallis> | mig5: im already using it. |
| [15:38:26] | <anarcat> | mig5: right, but then why drbd? :) |
| [15:38:33] | <anarcat> | i thought ocfs would deal with all that shit |
| [15:38:39] | <anarcat> | but maybe i got that bit wrong |
| [15:39:45] | <mig5> | it doesn't do replication, at least I don't think so |
| [15:42:58] | <mig5> | from my understanding, it just allows concurrent access to the same filesystem without the problems of locks and so forth |
| [15:43:05] | <mig5> | http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/ch-ocfs2.html |
| [15:43:47] | <mig5> | in any case, standard drbd + heartbeat + nfs is simple enough, possibly even safer... i've done that before, just OCFS2 seems to be a popular choice in the last couple years |
| [15:44:35] | <mig5> | think it means the drbd volumes are both 'primary', so maybe loadbalanced file storage as opposed to active/passive?? scary! :) |
| [15:46:24] | <anarcat> | but that can't be! |
| [15:46:28] | <anarcat> | :) |
| [15:48:59] | <joelwallis> | mig5: i readed this post, but the ~ character is relative to my user (this case, root). so i didn't understand very well |
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| [21:20:13] | <hefring> | community => Drush 4.5 with Aegir 1.9 and "strpos(): Empty delimiter pm.drush.inc:1131" => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-45-aegir-19-and-strpos-e... |
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| [22:39:30] | <larsmw> | erh... :-S ... whats the difference between cloning and migrating a site? |
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| [22:41:40] | <larsmw> | ahh! copy vs move! ;-) |
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| [01:45:57] | <rdean> | Goodmorning and Goodevening! |
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| [01:50:13] | <rovo> | I ran the Aegir Debian auto install script...and mostly it seems to have worked out fine, except it did not install any profiles...and never asked me if there were any I wanted to install |
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| [01:51:07] | <rovo> | "Aegir frontend bootstrap correctly..." "Setting up 1.9"..."write failed: broken pipe" |
| [01:54:03] | <rovo> | Any ideas if that will cause me any major issues? Or if it just kept Aegir from setting up the default profiles? |
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| [02:37:01] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell joelwallis: http://omega8.cc/node/109 |
| [02:37:02] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when joelwallis is around. |
| [02:40:06] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Does it come with a performance cost firing up more octopus'es, or is that not an issue? |
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| [02:42:26] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: no difference really if you have 100 sites on one instance or 10 instances, each with 10 sites, especially when you are using built-in platforms, since most of the code is shared |
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| [02:48:32] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: Cool. That was what I thought. |
| [02:49:42] | <lsolesen> | A box with 1 GB RAM. How many sites would you say it could safely host? About 40-200 guests a day. Only few logged in users. |
| [02:50:03] | <lsolesen> | omega8cc: when running BOA. |
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| [03:01:07] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: up to 600-800 MB of database binary size total should be safe, but it is not about the number of sites, but also other things like sites cron interval - you can easily generate moderate load even with zero visitors and 1-5 minutes (useless of course) for sites cron interval, so it really depends on how you configure it |
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| [03:04:27] | <omega8cc> | lsolesen: so when you have default 3h cron interval for sites and their databases are no loaded all at once every minute, plus there is essentially no traffic, you can allow even more db size |
| [03:05:31] | <lsolesen> | Yeah. For some reason I defaulted to cron every hour, but that is not neccessary for most sites. |
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| [04:14:26] | <benjf> | question: if I was to WSOD a Drupal instance on Aegir, does it mess up all sites or just the one(s) using the broken module? |
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| [04:16:13] | <mvc> | benjf: if the module's in sites/all you might have borked them all, depends on the bug |
| [04:16:32] | <mvc> | in sites/foo.com/modules it's probably just the one site |
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| [04:16:53] | <benjf> | mvc: thanks |
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