| [11:01:50] | <frodopwns_> | yep in an ssh on a different computer...emailing it to myself |
| [11:03:12] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir 6.x-1.9 automated install script |
| [11:03:12] | <frodopwns_> | ============================================================================== |
| [11:03:12] | <frodopwns_> | Some settings have not been provided and will now be prompted. |
| [11:03:12] | <frodopwns_> | Don't worry: you will get to review those settings after the final install |
| [11:03:12] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir frontend URL [localhost]: selenator |
| [11:03:13] | <frodopwns_> | MySQL privileged user ("root") password: |
| [11:03:14] | <frodopwns_> | This script will operate the following changes in your system: |
| [11:03:16] | <frodopwns_> | 1. Create server-level configuration directories |
| [11:03:18] | <frodopwns_> | 2. Download drush_make |
| [11:03:20] | <frodopwns_> | 3. Create the Hostmaster frontend platform |
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| [11:03:22] | <frodopwns_> | 4. Install the frontend site |
| [11:03:24] | <frodopwns_> | 5. Setup the dispatcher (a user cron job) |
| [11:03:28] | <frodopwns_> | We are making the following assumptions: |
| [11:03:30] | <frodopwns_> | * you have read and are following the install instructions at: |
| [11:03:32] | <frodopwns_> | http://community.aegirproject.org/installing |
| [11:03:34] | <anarcat> | geez |
| [11:03:35] | <frodopwns_> | * the FQDN of this machine is valid and resolves |
| [11:03:36] | <frodopwns_> | * you are executing this script as your "aegir" user |
| [11:03:38] | <frodopwns_> | The following settings will be used: |
| [11:03:40] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir frontend URL: selenator |
| [11:03:42] | <frodopwns_> | Master server FQDN: localhost |
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| [11:03:44] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir root: /var/aegir |
| [11:03:46] | <anarcat> | dude, please use a pastebin next time? |
| [11:03:46] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir user: aegir |
| [11:03:48] | <frodopwns_> | Web group: www-data |
| [11:03:50] | <frodopwns_> | Web server: apache |
| [11:03:52] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir DB host: localhost |
| [11:03:54] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir DB user: root |
| [11:03:58] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir DB password: <prompted> |
| [11:04:00] | <frodopwns_> | Drush make version: 6.x-2.3 |
| [11:04:03] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir version: 6.x-1.9 |
| [11:04:04] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir platform path: /var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.9 |
| [11:04:07] | <frodopwns_> | Aegir makefile: /var/aegir/.drush/provision/aegir.make |
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| [11:04:42] | <frodopwns_> | could have jsut warned me |
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| [11:05:08] | <anarcat> | i did, and it kept going |
| [11:05:32] | <frodopwns_> | well what you saw and what i saw must have been different |
| [11:05:42] | <frodopwns_> | i pasted it and a minute late you show up sayign geez |
| [11:05:46] | <frodopwns_> | then kicked |
| [11:05:48] | <anarcat> | http://paste.debian.net/214430/ |
| [11:05:58] | <anarcat> | that is not what happened to the rest of us |
| [11:06:05] | <frodopwns_> | well then my apologies |
| [11:06:08] | <anarcat> | no problem |
| [11:06:20] | <anarcat> | pastebinit is your friend :) |
| [11:06:49] | <anarcat> | anyways, i have to go |
| [11:07:00] | <anarcat> | but please do pastebin the full log |
| [11:07:42] | <frodopwns_> | http://pastebin.com/2dvFpCTx |
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| [11:08:03] | <anarcat> | <frodopwns_> nice didnt even get banned for spamming |
| [11:08:05] | <anarcat> | hehe :) |
| [11:08:11] | <frodopwns_> | yeep |
| [11:08:27] | <anarcat> | the reason you didn't get banned is that xchat rate-limits the output, so what looks to you instanteneous actually takes a while :) |
| [11:08:39] | <anarcat> | see my above pastebin for the other side :) |
| [11:08:41] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [11:08:54] | <anarcat> | i need the same thing, but with the --debug flag to drush hostmaster-install :/ |
| [11:08:59] | <frodopwns_> | alright i will hit you up on this topic at a later date |
| [11:09:35] | <anarcat> | no problem, i'll be here tomorrow too |
| [11:11:41] | <frodopwns_> | http://pastebin.com/YBGa3uzN |
| [11:13:13] | <gandhiano> | I have attempted installing a site from an installation profile (Commerce Kickstart 2.0) but it is stuck on the install |
| [11:13:27] | <gandhiano> | Running: /usr/share/drush/drush.php @habitat.ecobytes.net provision-install --backend 2>&1 |
| [11:13:45] | <gandhiano> | I suspect it is stuck on an additional step of asking whether one wants to create a demo shop |
| [11:14:12] | <gandhiano> | the site is already functioning though, but I cannot access it because aegir installation does not complete and therefore I have no first time login |
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| [11:18:38] | <gandhiano> | so, how can I get over this stuck install procedure? |
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| [11:26:38] | <gandhiano> | ah, I just had to enable ;) (install remains stuck though) |
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| [11:28:41] | <gandhiano> | damn, it also fails to verify : |
| [11:28:43] | <gandhiano> | :( |
| [11:44:08] | <gandhiano> | aegir php is taking up 100% of cpu |
| [11:44:12] | <gandhiano> | for a long time |
| [11:44:16] | <gandhiano> | probably the stuck install |
| [11:44:18] | <gandhiano> | any clues? |
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| [11:57:57] | <frodopwns_> | I attempted to login to my aegir server after isntall using the 1 tim elogin provided but it failed! |
| [11:58:00] | <frodopwns_> | You have tried to use a one-time login link that has either been used or is no longer valid. Please request a new one using the form below. |
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| [12:00:01] | <gandhiano> | frodopwns_, you can reset the password again on the aegir control panel |
| [12:01:46] | <frodopwns_> | is the control panel not hostmaster? |
| [12:03:09] | <gandhiano> | frodopwns_, yes |
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| [12:03:18] | <frodopwns_> | can i do that from the command line? |
| [12:03:30] | <frodopwns_> | because its the web control panel i cant get into |
| [12:03:49] | <gandhiano> | frodopwns_, then I don't know how to do it |
| [12:04:07] | <gandhiano> | I also have frequent problems with entering new SSL sites, but never had with the hostmaster |
| [12:04:31] | <frodopwns_> | i dno if i have to reinstall aegir or what |
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| [12:09:03] | <frodopwns_> | the one tie user login just doesnt seem to work |
| [12:09:06] | <frodopwns_> | time* |
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| [12:15:00] | <frodopwns_> | is there a default password for the hostmaster admin user? |
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| [13:15:36] | <frodopwns_> | do you have to run the provision 7.x version in order to host drupal 7 sites? |
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| [14:44:27] | <cfusch> | I made it successfully all the way through the hostmaster-install, but the URL for first time login gives me a Page not found: "The requested URL /user/reset/1/1354677925/24fe9cabe8041dfd351505bf3019eea8 was not found on this server." |
| [14:44:38] | <cfusch> | Where'd I go wrong?? |
| [14:45:30] | <cfusch> | This is what my hosts file looks like: |
| [14:45:34] | <cfusch> | The requested URL /user/reset/1/1354677925/24fe9cabe8041dfd351505bf3019eea8 was not found on this server. |
| [14:45:40] | <cfusch> | whoops |
| [14:46:44] | <cfusch> | could this be a hosts file problem? |
| [14:50:13] | <cfusch> | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| [14:50:13] | <cfusch> | 127.0.1.1 aegir.debian.local aegir |
| [14:50:13] | <cfusch> | # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts |
| [14:50:13] | <cfusch> | ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| [14:50:13] | <cfusch> | fe00::0 ip6-localnet |
| [14:50:13] | <cfusch> | ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix |
| [14:50:14] | <cfusch> | ff02::1 ip6-allnodes |
| [14:50:14] | <cfusch> | ff02::2 ip6-allrouters |
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| [01:14:16] | <BobSP> | Hi all - i´ve got a quick question. Is there a SOAP/REST API available? |
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| [01:35:18] | <cfusch> | Hello! I'm getting a 'page not found on this server' when entering the one time login to Aegir at the tail end of the Aegir install (the URL given by the installation script). However the aegir.debian.local *does* take me to the /var/www/ (index.html) that says, "It works!" so I know that I'm getting there. Is this just a soft link problem and does anyone know where I might look for this, please? |
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| [01:35:47] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: so, you had questions about uc_hosting, etc.? |
| [01:35:49] | <gandhiano_> | ok ergonlogic, regarding the whole ubercart/commerce integration |
| [01:35:52] | <gandhiano_> | yes |
| [01:36:17] | <gandhiano_> | I need to plan our infrastructure - basically we are trying to build, on the medium/long term an automated pay and deploy system |
| [01:36:29] | <gandhiano_> | which will come together with user support tickets, etc. |
| [01:36:42] | <ergonlogic> | basically, we're focused on getting a tight implementation together using uc_hosting |
| [01:36:47] | <ergonlogic> | we being OpenAtria |
| [01:36:56] | <gandhiano_> | and I got to uc_hosting and also commerce_hosting |
| [01:36:59] | <gandhiano_> | no no, ecobytes |
| [01:37:16] | <ergonlogic> | no, I mean on my end, from a development standpoint |
| [01:37:23] | <gandhiano_> | ah, ok |
| [01:37:24] | <gandhiano_> | :) |
| [01:37:40] | <ergonlogic> | I'll explain what we're planning, and then we can discuss how that'll affect you, k? |
| [01:37:45] | <gandhiano_> | k |
| [01:38:11] | <ergonlogic> | so, we're looking to launch a self-service Open Atrium based SaaS service |
| [01:38:33] | <ergonlogic> | we've got uc_hosting working pretty well, for this context |
| [01:39:13] | <ergonlogic> | and we're looking at Drupal 6.x, Aegir 2.x, and UC 2.x |
| [01:39:18] | <ergonlogic> | for the time-being |
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| [01:39:48] | <ergonlogic> | we're focused on ensuring *all* config goes into code |
| [01:40:14] | <ergonlogic> | which pretty much means the content too, since we're considering products, platforms, etc. as config |
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| [01:41:05] | <ergonlogic> | it's driven largely from custom Puppet manifests, and built on our Koumbit's AegirVPS infrastructure |
| [01:41:22] | <ergonlogic> | using drush-vagrant, and the aegirvps-blueprint |
| [01:41:28] | <ergonlogic> | for local dev |
| [01:41:41] | <BobSP> | hi all, quick question - does Aegir have a SOAP/REST API available by default? |
| [01:42:07] | <ergonlogic> | BobSP: no, but you may be interested in aegir_services |
| [01:42:43] | <BobSP> | looking into that, thanks |
| [01:42:56] | <ergonlogic> | I've been largely focused on building out the AegirVPS service, and so we've only been able to work on the SaaS stuff about 1 day a week |
| [01:43:12] | <ergonlogic> | we're ramping that up to 2 days per week now though, as we prepare to launch our beta |
| [01:43:57] | <ergonlogic> | one of our next steps is to implement CI testing, probably using Jenkins and Selenium |
| [01:44:37] | <ergonlogic> | Right now, we're tied to having UC, since uc_hosting assumes e-commerce will run on the same site as Aegir |
| [01:45:04] | <ergonlogic> | I'd like to work on Aegir Services, to allow remote control of an Aegir |
| [01:45:17] | <ergonlogic> | so that the e-commerce front-end can be on a separate wite |
| [01:45:24] | <ergonlogic> | s/wite/site |
| [01:46:17] | <BobSP> | =) |
| [01:46:18] | <ergonlogic> | that'll then allow us to have a D7/Commerce or D7/UC3.x combination |
| [01:46:46] | <BobSP> | it looks like ´Services´ is a module that allows manual configuration of soap-like requests |
| [01:46:57] | <ergonlogic> | while the Aegir site itself can remain D6/Aegir2.x, and then upgrade to D7/Aegir3.x next year |
| [01:47:20] | <BobSP> | or does Aegir Services -> combined with Services make it remotely manageable/ |
| [01:47:24] | <BobSP> | ´/ = ? |
| [01:48:05] | <ergonlogic> | BobSP: I don't think Aegir Services is production-ready, but if you want to do something like that, it's probably a good start |
| [01:48:14] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: make sense? |
| [01:48:44] | <BobSP> | ergonlogic: well either that, or i´ll have to dream up my own integration method |
| [01:48:53] | <ergonlogic> | our intention is to white-box the SaaS service, and manage the entire stack |
| [01:49:07] | <ergonlogic> | leaving the install profile to our client to develop |
| [01:50:30] | <ergonlogic> | in the mean time, we also have sponsorship to build a new drush-vagrant blueprint to act as a local development environment integrated with our AegirVPS services |
| [01:50:49] | <ergonlogic> | probably using devshop and remote_import |
| [01:51:19] | <ergonlogic> | so, lots on our plates, and two humble part-time developers to do it :) |
| [01:51:43] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: so, what are you looking to do? |
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| [01:57:18] | <ecorson> | anarcat, i achieved victory on my aegis install last night, thanks for the help |
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| [01:57:37] | <ecorson> | aegir* |
| [02:00:23] | <ergonlogic> | congrats ecorson! welcome to the community :) |
| [02:00:47] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: so you're with ecobytes.net? |
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| [02:04:19] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: also, our entire stack, including all the stuff we're currently working on is FLOSS, so you're welcome to use, improve and extend it :) |
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| [02:08:20] | <jonpugh> | :D |
| [02:09:00] | <ecorson> | ergonlogic: i am a passable linux admin and i had some trouble with the install, there must be some room for improvement, how would di go about submitting suggested changes to the documentation? |
| [02:09:41] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: well, the docs are a wiki, so, it really just involves clicking the 'edit' link ;) |
| [02:10:37] | <ergonlogic> | I came across this quote yesterday: "There are 2 types of startups. Those that succeed w/code that embarrasses the engineers & those that fail." |
| [02:11:11] | <ergonlogic> | so consider that a great big YMMV on everything I've said, written or coded in the last couple years... |
| [02:11:23] | <jonpugh> | ecorson: ergonlogic is talking about http://community.aegirproject.org which you can just create an account and edit pages... |
| [02:11:40] | <jonpugh> | but improvements to source code README's can be submitted as patches on drupal.org/project/provision or drupal.org/project/hostmaster |
| [02:11:58] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: right, what jonpugh said :) |
| [02:11:58] | <jonpugh> | hah! I saw that quote too... |
| [02:12:23] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: what flavour of Linux did you install it on, might I ask? |
| [02:13:38] | <ecorson> | Ubuntu |
| [02:13:42] | <ecorson> | 12.04 |
| [02:13:55] | <ecorson> | manual install |
| [02:14:07] | <ergonlogic> | ah, ok |
| [02:14:34] | <ergonlogic> | we heavily favour Debian, and maintain .debs as part of our release process |
| [02:15:00] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat, the project lead, is a Debian Developer |
| [02:16:33] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: I hope to finally have a chance to try out devshop next week |
| [02:18:20] | <ecorson> | anarcat was nice enough to help me over the weekend and again last ngiht |
| [02:18:39] | <ecorson> | Most of the issues I had were linux ignorance so maybe the docs should be just a little more specific |
| [02:19:45] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: patches are welcome :) |
| [02:19:46] | <jonpugh> | there is a "Talk" tab on every book page on the community site... |
| [02:20:00] | <jonpugh> | sometimes it helps to mention your case there just to give everyone a heads up |
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| [02:20:18] | <jonpugh> | "talk" meaning comments. |
| [02:20:25] | <ecorson> | But sometimes you don't get the caveats uinles syou tread the side notes before you attempt the install |
| [02:20:33] | <ecorson> | so it might the nice to move more important points into the body of the docs |
| [02:20:40] | <ecorson> | no worries though we made it |
| [02:20:43] | <jonpugh> | yes, that was gonna be my next point :) |
| [02:20:53] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: bear in mind that most of the developers have some sort of automated installation scripts |
| [02:21:01] | <ergonlogic> | puppet, fabric, etc |
| [02:21:23] | <ergonlogic> | so, we don't put as much time and effort into the install docs as they deserve |
| [02:21:26] | <BobSP> | ergonlogic: thanks for the tip on Aegir Services, it seems to do what i want |
| [02:21:40] | <ergonlogic> | BobSP: I'm glad to hear it :) |
| [02:22:36] | <jonpugh> | ergonlogic: cool!! it would be good to wait a week, I am doing major cleanup, some refactoring, and have a much better wizard-based project creation UI in the works |
| [02:22:49] | <jonpugh> | also.. this: http://drupal.org/node/1849304#comment-6810962 |
| [02:22:50] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1849304 => HOWTO: Build an Aegir platform directly from a git repo => Provision, Code, normal, needs review, 6 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [02:23:01] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: yeah, I saw that |
| [02:23:17] | <ecorson> | ergologic: my shop uses fabric but we are contemplating the move to aegir |
| [02:23:39] | <jonpugh> | so with that patch, aegir platforms store their git remote and branch |
| [02:23:55] | <jonpugh> | on first verify, it clones to root. |
| [02:24:11] | <jonpugh> | it works :O |
| [02:24:26] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: good to hear, but I *like* makefiles :p |
| [02:24:27] | <jonpugh> | hostmaster patch is ready too |
| [02:24:33] | <jonpugh> | the makefiles are still there! |
| [02:24:35] | <jonpugh> | :P |
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| [02:25:01] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: I wrote puppet-aegir to make installation and management easier |
| [02:25:12] | <jonpugh> | makefiles are great for the things they are great for ;) |
| [02:25:36] | <ergonlogic> | it could be adapted to ubuntu pretty easily, I'd think, if anyone was interested in maintaining those bits |
| [02:25:53] | <gandhiano_> | ergonlogic, sorry, I left you speaking alone, my baby woke up and had to run around |
| [02:26:00] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: yeah, I guess it's more of a dev vs. maintenance thing |
| [02:26:01] | <jonpugh> | ergonlogic: my strongest argument for git repo support in aegir core is http://git.drupal.org/project/drupal.git |
| [02:26:17] | <gandhiano_> | will read the backlog now |
| [02:26:40] | <jonpugh> | even better... lets take makefile and git support out of hosting_platform and create hosting_platform_make and hosting_platform_git |
| [02:26:50] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: no worries, I'm a devoted father myself, but thankfully my son is in school now, which makes working from home a whole lot easier :) |
| [02:27:45] | <jonpugh> | I didn't remove makefile support in the patch :D |
| [02:29:29] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: I just mean that it's called the Aegir *Hosting* System, and we're building an Aegir Development System. So, there's bound to be bumps in the road. |
| [02:30:29] | <jonpugh> | ahhh interesting :) |
| [02:30:38] | <jonpugh> | so perhaps there IS a place for devshop... |
| [02:30:53] | <gandhiano_> | ergonlogic, thanks for all the process description |
| [02:30:59] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: OT, do you use drush-vagrant and/or aegir-up? |
| [02:31:11] | <jonpugh> | because I've been using aegir for dev systems for years, including locally, if only because I hate creating databases and permissions! |
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| [02:31:18] | <jonpugh> | ohhh i am trying to learn it |
| [02:31:33] | <gandhiano_> | ergonlogic, yes, I'm with ecobytes.net and we are exploring possible deployment automation paths (together with the first step of making our accounting a bit more sustainable and easy to make, through commerce related tools) |
| [02:31:45] | <jonpugh> | i need a long holiday weekend to commit to getting fully into vagrant |
| [02:32:07] | <jonpugh> | i want to learn chef too... but you use puppet? its so hard to decide which way to go |
| [02:32:18] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: so I have a question, then. Usage stats are pretty useless on d.o, if the project isn't a module, theme, etc. |
| [02:32:34] | <gandhiano_> | ergonlogic, because of our scarce human time and non-profit base, I was pretty enthusiastic with the Commerce Kickstart build, which offered a nice out-of-the-box shop |
| [02:32:52] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: I've got a little counter script, and I'm thinking of switching the download of the basebox to use it |
| [02:33:08] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: as a way of trying to judge it's popularity |
| [02:33:13] | <gandhiano_> | ergonlogic, but since you are using a full FLOSS stack based on ubercart and D6, then this might be a better option to consider |
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| [02:33:19] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: do you see any problem with that? |
| [02:33:28] | <gandhiano_> | s/based on/with the use of |
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| [02:33:52] | <jonpugh> | download of the basebox? |
| [02:34:04] | <jonpugh> | oh for vagrant? |
| [02:34:10] | <jonpugh> | aegir-up? |
| [02:34:26] | <ergonlogic> | gandhiano_: we haven't been as vocal about our dev work as I'd like, and I hope to change that, and make it easier to folow our progress |
| [02:34:31] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: right |
| [02:34:52] | <ergonlogic> | the debian vm image we use in vagrant |
| [02:35:06] | <jonpugh> | i mean, as long as it works for people i don't see what matters :) |
| [02:35:34] | <jonpugh> | but on the other hand... aegir having its own update.module-type system would be sick |
| [02:35:39] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: yeah, it's not logging IPs or anything, just a simple counter |
| [02:36:02] | <jonpugh> | like so hostmasters could ping back to drupal.org... we could configure it to ping back to another site too |
| [02:36:20] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: I think is D7 update is on by default, right? So this should essentially some out-of-the-box with Aegir 3.x |
| [02:37:10] | <jonpugh> | would be cool, right? could be like "<strike>acquia</strike> Aegir Network" system |
| [02:38:11] | <jonpugh> | a future big problem i want to tackle is just that, how to get client sites to talk to hostmaster |
| [02:39:21] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: there are a couple solutions out there already |
| [02:39:22] | <jonpugh> | oh i think we are talking about 2 different things |
| [02:39:34] | <jonpugh> | yeah, lots of work in a lot of places |
| [02:40:01] | <jonpugh> | its getting exciting |
| [02:40:10] | <ergonlogic> | I'm thinking of integrating munin/graphite on our AegirVPSs |
| [02:40:34] | <ergonlogic> | I seem to recall someone getting centralized logging working... |
| [02:41:25] | <ergonlogic> | and then there's http://drupal.org/project/sentry_server |
| [02:41:42] | <jonpugh> | who is "our"? I see you are a "node in koumbit" but i don't know what that means ... :D |
| [02:43:08] | <ergonlogic> | it's complicated |
| [02:43:17] | <jonpugh> | :D |
| [02:43:30] | <jonpugh> | no worries! |
| [02:43:31] | <ergonlogic> | I usually consult under Ergon Logic |
| [02:44:08] | <ergonlogic> | and I "freelance" with Koumbit, building and maintaining AegirVPS services |
| [02:44:40] | <ergonlogic> | I stay a "freelancer", because I refuse to ever be a salaried employee again. |
| [02:45:11] | <ergonlogic> | and then I'm launching a new cooperative, OpenAtria, with some colleagues |
| [02:45:28] | <ergonlogic> | so, we, and our is pretty context-sensitive |
| [02:45:31] | <jonpugh> | nice |
| [02:46:00] | <ergonlogic> | as a general rule, if I'm talking about AegirVPS, it'll mean Koumbit |
| [02:46:14] | <ergonlogic> | if I'm talking about SaaS, it's likely OpenAtria |
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| [02:47:22] | <ergonlogic> | though we're negotiating the terms of a partnership b/w Koumbit and OpenAtria, that'll allow OA to resell Kt's AegirVPS services, so... |
| [02:47:34] | <ergonlogic> | I'm getting confused myself :p |
| [02:47:42] | <jonpugh> | hah excellent |
| [02:47:47] | <jonpugh> | as good business should be ;) |
| [02:48:30] | <ergonlogic> | well, transparency is on of our founding priciples |
| [02:48:50] | <jonpugh> | oh good!! on that node... can you change my username on community.ap.o ? I am trying to retire "careernerd" |
| [02:49:05] | <ergonlogic> | see, there I'm talking about the broader Koumbit Network: Koumbit and partners :) |
| [02:49:20] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: sure, what's your numeric uid? |
| [02:49:38] | <jonpugh> | 893 |
| [02:49:39] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/893 => mysql --ansi cannot import install database => Drupal core, Other, critical, closed (fixed), 10 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [02:49:46] | <jonpugh> | "jonpugh" would be great, THANKS! |
| [02:50:43] | <jonpugh> | botsnack |
| [02:50:43] | <hefring> | thanks jonpugh :) |
| [02:50:44] | <ergonlogic> | jonpugh: done |
| [02:51:10] | <ecorson> | ergonlogic: i hope to one day ditch these chains as well |
| [02:53:22] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: tbh, I owe it to my wife's indulging my desire to be an entrepreneur, and Koumbit's openness to my hacky vision |
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| [02:54:38] | <ergonlogic> | I've been very lucky, but I hope that some of the work we do will make it easier for others |
| [02:55:05] | <ecorson> | ergonlogic: I haven't made the leap into marriage so I have the freedom to pursue whatever..jsut not the economic freedom |
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| [02:56:20] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: well, that's what I mean actually. For the past couple years my wife has been making ~3x what I was. |
| [02:56:32] | <ergonlogic> | this is changing now that things are ramping up |
| [02:56:52] | <ergonlogic> | but it's tough to start out |
| [02:57:20] | <ecorson> | ergonlogic: that is good to hear, the longer i hold out for the perfect job the more people tell me to change my expectations |
| [02:59:50] | <ergonlogic> | well, for me, it was important to figure out the specifics of the perfect job, and then make sure my work was building towards those competencies |
| [03:00:15] | <ergonlogic> | that's where Koumbit has been great |
| [03:00:57] | <ecorson> | ergonlogic: that is awesome, it would be nice to work for someone with vision :-) |
| [03:01:15] | <jonpugh> | I decided there was no perfect job available so I set out to create it! now I have thinkdrop :D |
| [03:01:44] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: I'd suggest s/for/with/g |
| [03:02:15] | <ergonlogic> | I really bellieve that flat organizations are the future |
| [03:03:04] | <ecorson> | i just want a competent organization |
| [03:03:23] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: tell me if oyu ever find one :p |
| [03:03:57] | * ergonlogic puts on his anti-authoritarian hat |
| [03:04:10] | <ergonlogic> | fwiw, I think hierarchy is the enemy of competence |
| [03:04:37] | <ecorson> | argonlogic: at least where non programmers are in charge of programmers |
| [03:04:41] | <ecorson> | that has never worked for me |
| [03:04:51] | <ergonlogic> | essentially the corrolary to the Dilbert Principle |
| [03:04:53] | <jonpugh> | here here! |
| [03:05:30] | <ergonlogic> | if a programmer is put in charge, how long does he remain a programmer |
| [03:05:55] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [03:06:30] | <ecorson> | if its an agile team it could work |
| [03:06:43] | <lsolesen> | jonpugh: I think you should revisit your frontpage at thinkdrop.net. The pdf is a 404. Seems to be from moving the site from dev to production. |
| [03:06:55] | <ergonlogic> | if decisions are made by people not effected by the decision, the repercussions are what we see everywhere |
| [03:06:57] | <jonpugh> | yeah, my website sucks :) |
| [03:07:19] | <jonpugh> | i need to spend time on it, but i consider myself lucky that it is not a priority |
| [03:08:09] | <jonpugh> | ok, no more delays, I'll fix it :) |
| [03:08:38] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: well, a scrum-master/agile-coach isn't supposed to be a manager |
| [03:09:10] | <ecorson> | no but that is what i think of when i think of someone managing a development team…deciding what to work on and when |
| [03:09:13] | <ergonlogic> | they're role is essentially to buffer the team from management interference |
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| [03:10:05] | <ergonlogic> | s/they're/their |
| [03:10:35] | <ecorson> | and prevent management from trying to make technical decisions about tcode |
| [03:10:58] | <ergonlogic> | ecorson: well, I'd argue that's 'leadership' rather than 'management' |
| [03:11:10] | <ecorson> | fair enough |
| [03:11:53] | <ecorson> | leadership seems to be missing from the lower level IT shops |
| [03:12:10] | <ergonlogic> | it's missing all over |
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| [03:13:13] | <ergonlogic> | my wife is a project-manager/supervisor at a fortune 500 company, and has more leadership ability in her little finger than the 4 levels directors and VPs above her |
| [03:15:05] | <ecorson> | 4 persons who excel at politics no doubt |
| [03:16:18] | <jonpugh> | ecorson: re:lower level IT shops, while I'll agree that leadership is lacking, those companies are in a tough position because of how hard infrastructure can be and the looseness of open source |
| [03:16:39] | <jonpugh> | meaning... hands on skills building sites in drupal vary wildly. |
| [03:16:53] | <jonpugh> | there is no "right way" |
| [03:17:22] | <ecorson> | jonpugh: my experience is that the managers want results but don't want to make the investment in time to build a solid foundation |
| [03:17:31] | <jonpugh> | they usually don't have the funds to hire a "devops" person just to make sure systems are running... |
| [03:17:52] | <jonpugh> | yes exactly... they are using drupal because they were told it is amazing and it can do anything and its FREE! |
| [03:18:03] | <jonpugh> | so thats what they expect |
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| [03:22:59] | <ecorson> | anyone have experience load testing with tsung? |
| [03:23:26] | <mvc> | jonpugh: yes, drupal is free, as in free kittens |
| [03:23:45] | <mvc> | you can have the kitten for free, but you need to care for it, take it to the vet and clean out its litter box, or you'll have crap all over your server |
| [03:24:01] | <mvc> | http://freeasinkittens.com/erics-blog/finally-name-my-site |
| [03:24:04] | <ergonlogic> | mvc: ooh, that's a great analogy! |
| [03:27:31] | <mvc> | ergonlogic: yeah, i wish i'd thought of it :) |
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| [03:44:23] | <ecorson> | ergonlogic: how do you load test your drupal sites? |
| [03:47:53] | <ergonlogic> | for larger clients we've done it, but I'll have to ask around |
| [03:48:25] | <ecorson> | my issue eight be easier than that…my tool…tsung wants the master server to have passwordless ssh access to the slave server |
| [03:48:41] | <ecorson> | to do this i simply created an ssh key an dpushed it to the authorized_keys on my slave |
| [03:48:50] | <ecorson> | do you think that might be the wrong method? |
| [03:49:03] | <mvc> | ergonlogic: you need an ssh key for load testing? weird |
| [03:49:11] | <mvc> | err.. rather |
| [03:49:15] | <mvc> | ecorson: ^ |
| [03:49:16] | <cfusch> | Hello! I'm having some trouble doing the first time login with the URL provided at the tail end the Aegir install. I think this is a hosts file problem or possibly a soft link problem. I can get the "It Works" message from the Vbox webserver, but the first time login says, "page not found on this server". Any help out there on this please?? |
| [03:49:35] | <ecorson> | mvc: tsung does distributed load testing |
| [03:49:43] | <mvc> | ecorson: i've always used the package ab |
| [03:50:03] | <ecorson> | mvc: i am trying got test the limits of an emergency information site |
| [03:50:06] | <ergonlogic> | cfusch: try manually restarting apache |
| [03:50:18] | <cfusch> | I did that. |
| [03:50:20] | <ecorson> | trying to* |
| [03:51:19] | <ecorson> | mvc: were you able to push the server to its limit with ab? |
| [03:52:53] | <cfusch> | ergonligic: Here's some info, second line of my hosts file gives my virtualbox IP (inet IP for the wire) followed by aegir.debian.local aegir |
| [03:53:05] | <zumweb> | yeah, finally installed a platform from a makefile. And only in 2 days and 10 hours of google searching. Which never gave the final answer. But what the heck, isn't drupal fun?! :) |
| [03:53:40] | <cfusch> | ergonligic: I've also tried changing the second line IP to the 127.0.1.1 but still no cigar. |
| [03:54:19] | <mvc> | ecorson: yes, you can send as many concurrent requests as you like |
| [03:55:14] | <ecorson> | mvc: i thought the OS limits how many connections you can open |
| [04:01:30] | <ergonlogic> | cfusch: if you mispell my nick, I won't be notified when you're trying to talk to me :) |
| [04:02:47] | <ergonlogic> | cfusch: you get 'It works' at the domain you installed Aegir to? |
| [04:04:42] | <ergonlogic> | zumweb: this wasn't helpful? http://community.aegirproject.org/node/20 |
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| [04:08:37] | <zumweb> | ergonlogic: not completely, was going from mig5's video. But I couldn't even get his makefile to work. Always 'core needs to be set' errors. Oddly enough, I had to take the underscore away from the make file filename and get it in raw form from github for it to work. |
| [04:09:05] | <cfusch> | ergonlogic: (whoops on the nick) Yes, on the 'It Works' if i use either the IP or the 'aegir.debian.local' |
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| [04:16:58] | <cfusch> | ergonlogic: thanks for looking at this, but I need to split for a Drupal users group meeting in Orlando. Later. |
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| [06:33:48] | <frodopwns_> | anarcat: you around? |
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| [07:03:41] | <ergonlogic> | I just discovered an interesting new failure mode for Aegir. We don't stop people from entering an IP address in the site name field... |
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| [07:14:47] | <frodopwns_> | its a new fad...the opposite of vanity domains |
| [07:15:03] | <frodopwns_> | come to my site http://128.33.423.12 |
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| [07:29:56] | <joelwallis> | Hi. Someone knows some reference about nginx rewrite rules used in BOA script? I have one specific site which I got 404 error when I try to access it with www.mysite.com (its a defaeult alias). |
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| [09:29:11] | <jeffery> | Hi. I am attempting to install aegir on Ubuntu 10.04 using the instructions here http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400. The command 'sudo apt-get install aegir' consistently results in errors - the first being 'The drush command '@hostmaster status' could not be found. Run [error] `drush cache-clear drush` to clear the commandfile cache if you have installed new extensions.' |
| [09:29:26] | <jeffery> | I have confirmed the mysql password |
| [09:29:39] | <jeffery> | and checked through other items |
| [09:29:49] | <jeffery> | can anyone point me in the correct direction? |
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